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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,974 Views)
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4 May 2018, 10:47 PM
The most important line in the press conferences was from King
"We are looking at ways of narrowing the funding gap on Celtic"
This is the reason he employed Gerrard. Not because he thinks he's a great manager, not because he thinks he can topple Celtic. He's given him the managers job because he thinks the Stevie Gerrard name can bring in new funding. Be it season tickets, commercial deals, new people with money, anything he can get. It's all about regime survival.

He's taking the Sevco fans for a ride, selling them a dream to feed their craving to feel superior to everyone else, and they are lapping it up.
How they can't see this is astonishing.

I'm excited about this appointment - because Brendan is going to destroy this guy in the Sevco games next season. I hope we play them nice and early.
Can't wait till they have to sack Gerrard. One of the modern great footballers getting sacked by that shambles of a club, it's going to be glorious.
Your first two paragraphs are along the lines of my thinking. It’s like they’re acting first then working out how to do it after. A big big risk and it does strike me as a slightly desperate throw of the dice for them. If it works out for them, it means they’ve got lucky rather than being inspired.

However, they could get lucky. Yes all available evidence still suggests we should be winning next season, but let’s not risk our own ‘spiky golf shoes’ moment in all of this. They could get a bounce and could even get competitive, and it would be crazy to ignore it completely.
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5 May 2018, 02:00 AM
Ok guys and gals here the scenario. ..If the Huns finish forth would you prefer:

A. A Double Treble. A historic achievement never before seen in the league.

or

B. Throw the final so Sevco miss out on Europe.

Its a toughie...
How long did it take you to think up that one?
Edited by modest mouse, 5 May 2018, 08:04 AM.
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"I've got a funny feeling we're gonna smash the wage bracket..... SG will be on serious money and from what has been said today and his demeanour - this is big boys stuff.....no messing about anymore, Dave King and Douglas Park have the cheque books out!"
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be afraid timmy


"I've got a funny feeling we're gonna smash the wage bracket..... SG will be on serious money and from what has been said today and his demeanour - this is big boys stuff.....no messing about anymore, Dave King and Douglas Park have the cheque books out!"
Feck sake they better have their cheque books out because sevco's needing over £10m just to keep the lights on next season :lol:
Edited by Asgardstreasure, 5 May 2018, 08:10 AM.
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be afraid timmy


"I've got a funny feeling we're gonna smash the wage bracket..... SG will be on serious money and from what has been said today and his demeanour - this is big boys stuff.....no messing about anymore, Dave King and Douglas Park have the cheque books out!"
Feck sake they better have their cheque books out because sevco's needing over £10m just to keep the lights on next season :lol:
King just loves spending other peoples money. THe Glib bleading the gullible: what could go wrong? :lol:
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Do the huns actually think we are beelin'? Maybe it's the circles I move in but I haven't met a Celtic fan who isn't pleased with this to some degree.

If you were to ask me to pick a manager who would have both a positive affect on us and a negative affect on the huns I think I would struggle to pick better than Gerrard. It's utter madness. And not that I really care but it's also good for Liverpool.

The only argument I've heard from them, if you can call it an argument, is that he MIGHT turn out to be an excellent manager. Warburton MIGHT have turned out to have been an excellent manager. Pedro MIGHT have turned out to have been an excellent manager. Murty MIGHT have turned out to have been an excellent manager. Stevie the IT guy MIGHT have turned out to have been an excellent manager. The huns at this point need a hell of a lot better guarantee than MIGHT.
That's their problem, they do believe we're bricking it.

Fantasy Island over there, no point in saying we couldn't give a toss as it makes them believe it even more.

Maybe we should play along and pretend we're worried, sit back and enjoy their tears yet again!

Not called the dumbest support in the world for nothing :thumbsup:
I challenged one of the currant buns at work to explain why he believes we're bricking it....his "evidence" was a handful of zoomers on Twitter posting things like "Don't do it Stevie, it'll destroy your career" and "If you sign for the Huns you're dead to me"

Sure thing Billy boy....those handfull of eejits are way more representative of the Celtic support than the vast majority who are pissing themselves with laughter :lol:

Oh, and his other stunning piece of logic was "well, there must be a substantial budget or he'd never have taken the job"

Hmmmm....that's one point of view, but you could equally say that if there is money there for a substantial transfer spend then they could have convinced an experienced manager to take the gig. :lolhuns:
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4 May 2018, 10:47 PM
The most important line in the press conferences was from King
"We are looking at ways of narrowing the funding gap on Celtic"
This is the reason he employed Gerrard. Not because he thinks he's a great manager, not because he thinks he can topple Celtic. He's given him the managers job because he thinks the Stevie Gerrard name can bring in new funding. Be it season tickets, commercial deals, new people with money, anything he can get. It's all about regime survival.

He's taking the Sevco fans for a ride, selling them a dream to feed their craving to feel superior to everyone else, and they are lapping it up.
How they can't see this is astonishing.

I'm excited about this appointment - because Brendan is going to destroy this guy in the Sevco games next season. I hope we play them nice and early.
Can't wait till they have to sack Gerrard. One of the modern great footballers getting sacked by that shambles of a club, it's going to be glorious.
Your first two paragraphs are along the lines of my thinking. It’s like they’re acting first then working out how to do it after. A big big risk and it does strike me as a slightly desperate throw of the dice for them. If it works out for them, it means they’ve got lucky rather than being inspired.

However, they could get lucky. Yes all available evidence still suggests we should be winning next season, but let’s not risk our own ‘spiky golf shoes’ moment in all of this. They could get a bounce and could even get competitive, and it would be crazy to ignore it completely.
I'm sure the Celtic board and manager will watch this very carefully, as they'd do with any ongoings at ibrox. There is an opportunity in there for us too.
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No.

1st June
Maybe he hasn’t actually signed yet and today was a mo Johnstone style sham unveiling to get the season tickets sold :ponder:

Its not beyond the realms of fantasy that the GASL has promised funds but obviously hasn’t delivered and has told him it’s going to take another few weeks or a month to get the money in.

It’s the sort of stunt that’s right up kings street but would Gerrard be stupid enough to be played like that and go along with it? Nothings too far fetched where lying huns are concerned. :lol: :lol:
I’ve been thinking the same,why not start him now?
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5 May 2018, 02:00 AM
Ok guys and gals here the scenario. ..If the Huns finish forth would you prefer:

A. A Double Treble. A historic achievement never before seen in the league.

or

B. Throw the final so Sevco miss out on Europe.

Its a toughie...

If you have a ticket for the Cup Final you should think about giving it to a Celtic supporter.

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At the moment this is PR masquerading as football management. And, to be fair on King, he's played a bit of a blinder/squirrel here. IF significant NEW investment arrives, then we're in new territory. History and all available facts suggest otherwise. The suspicion must be that Gerrard is the bait for any new investment, otherwise McInnes, Dyche or Clark would be saviour of choice.
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Ok guys and gals here the scenario. ..If the Huns finish forth would you prefer:

A. A Double Treble. A historic achievement never before seen in the league.

or

B. Throw the final so Sevco miss out on Europe.

Its a toughie...

If you have a ticket for the Cup Final you should think about giving it to a Celtic supporter.

Correct! If you're a Celtic fan who cares what happens in the scrap for EL places !

Green and White ribbons on the cup is ALL that matters!

Jesus who wants to watch the supporters of that shower of hacking bastards lift the cup while we look on ?
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5 May 2018, 06:45 AM
We’re effed their investor has been leaked, Red Bull? No. Singapore Billionaire? No........ it’s £50m from the Ultimo bra lassie :lol:
Didn't her business go bust




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We’re effed their investor has been leaked, Red Bull? No. Singapore Billionaire? No........ it’s £50m from the Ultimo bra lassie :lol:
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Bra-vo. Very well done. :clap:
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Maybe he hasn’t actually signed yet and today was a mo Johnstone style sham unveiling to get the season tickets sold :ponder:

Its not beyond the realms of fantasy that the GASL has promised funds but obviously hasn’t delivered and has told him it’s going to take another few weeks or a month to get the money in.

It’s the sort of stunt that’s right up kings street but would Gerrard be stupid enough to be played like that and go along with it? Nothings too far fetched where lying huns are concerned. :lol: :lol:
I’ve been thinking the same,why not start him now?
He'll have BT commitments with Liverpooool being in the final.
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no one in their right mind counts the Super Cup...behave yourself !!

they have won eight proper European trophies not eleven.. (I know Aberdeen claim to have won two but no one believes that!! ;) )

they are heading for their fifth final since 2000 not their seventh

six in their golden era of the dozen or so years from 1973 to Heysel.. ..and I'm happy to accept they may have won more during the ban period but clearly they didn't/couldn't

they won the Uefa Cup in 2001 and the CL in 2005...since then two finals..one in 2007 and one in 2016..both lost...for they ninth richest club in the world five European finals in 17/18 years is hardly setting the heather on fire?

Sevilla have won the Europa League five times since 2006.. ..Atletico Madrid have been in four Euro finals since 2010...three different Russian teams have won Europa League since Liverpool last did..

and the only person making this frankly quite bizarre suggestion that Liverpool somehow see Rangers with Gerrard in charge as a satellite/feeder Club is you...not even the moonbeam artists in our media have come up with this astonishing concept??
So you think there's nothing in the rumours that Gerrard will take the Ibrox job?
Okay. I take it all back.
Can I suggest you read what I posted and tell me where in that answer I say Gerrard is not taking the job :ponder:

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We’re effed their investor has been leaked, Red Bull? No. Singapore Billionaire? No........ it’s £50m from the Ultimo bra lassie :lol:
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Bra-vo. Very well done. :clap:
I don't get it
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We’re effed their investor has been leaked, Red Bull? No. Singapore Billionaire? No........ it’s £50m from the Ultimo bra lassie :lol:
Didn't her business go bust




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Bra-vo. Very well done. :clap:
Any deal like that would certainly have its knockers.
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Des Kelly was on Talksport this morning talking to Alan Brazil about the Liverpool game and then moved on to SG. Did anyone hear it?

A few interesting comments i thought, AB pushed him after Kelly spouted the "Positive Talks have taken place and will continue over next few days" line and he said similar to Roy Hodgson message.

Kelly said that they had chatted last night and that SG is still waiting on answers to a few things including the usual "Whats his budget" but the next 2 peaked my interest as it seemed that SG or his people are asking the right questions. Who owns the Club? Who owns the stadium?

If SG is asking these questions and is still considering it then he is thicker than i though.
If Gerrard did indeed ask those questions, he has taken Roy Hodgson's advice and then some. :lol: I can sense a "Rangers is a great club and I'm proud to have been asked but for family reasons I can't take the job at this moment" answer shortly coming to a hun near you. :lol:
Great call.
It was the rational call. Rational calls when proved wrong in reality dont become the wrong call.

This move is madness ( dressed up as risk in the media ) for both parties.

Gerrard has more to lose than he has probably calculated in. Not one person in their history ( player, manager, exec or board member ) has left with their reputation enhanced. This could irreparably damage his brand and managerial career

He has shown an arrogance that he doesn’t need to learn a new profession. Brands take years to build up and moments to destroy, he should be in a job where his contribution and lack are hidden from public view until he has learned the ropes.

This is not Souness all over again the world has changed since 1986, Souness was a cheque book manager he was seen for what he was as a manager after he left, his managerial record was dismal post Rangers and Smith showed that Souness wasn’t the differentiator, the money was..

For a club formed on the back of a demise due to reckless spending what they need is certainty and stability. They crave the instant success of the Souness era but don’t understand the differences between then and now make that nothing more than a pipe dream.

Either they are now going to compete on less than 1/3 of the budget of Celtic or they are going to throw money they don’t have at it for the prize of what? At best breaking even in an arms race with an impressively run Celtic. The previous club died trying to match Celtic’s achievements, this one is more obsessed with 10 in a row than we are to the point it can’t stick to it’s knitting.

Both the manager and the club have shown an impatience for instant success instead of building something through hard work, effort and time. This rapaciousness very rarely ends well.

We knew Rangers were capable of this ( just look at their managers since their inception ) but we were not sure if Gerrard was. He has made a stupid call one that some posters thought he was clever enough to avoid, they were wrong but their logic was right.

We know two more things today than we did yesterday.

1. Steve Gerrard is arrogant towards the profession he has just entered.
2. No one at Rangers has learned anything about financial prudence and building a business on the basis of adding value over time. They continue to trade at a loss with no feasible business plan that rises above the world of wishful thinking.

Wishing sometimes work, but it is not really a competitor to a solid plan, financial muscle, good organisation, the discipline to be patient and hard work.


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Just imagine if King didn't have £11m and decided to stand down. And just imagine if he wanted the others to write off their loans and some refused to do so. Just imagine.
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Bra-vo. Very well done. :clap:
Any deal like that would certainly have its knockers.
They've boobed if hey let her on board.
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