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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,087,112 Views)
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weeShughie
30 Apr 2018, 10:27 AM
Pussyfoot
30 Apr 2018, 10:24 AM
Earl of Leven

They can't stand 'the banter years'....

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....managed to avoid game yesterday but a few tims tried it on. I responded to one who is a good friend and one thing he said was interesting but backs up what I've suspected for a while.

They HATE the Banter Years. They hate that we have 'taken ownership' of it....that we have jokes before they do....that we CAN laugh at ourselves....that we keep filling the stadium....that there is no scope for comedy as we have it covered.

It is perhaps a Scottish shrug, and some will see it as small-minded - but in fact it is to our credit that we have sailed the stormy seas these last years with a sense of humour, perspective, and loyalty.
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I feel physically sick when Rangers fans use that term.
Can we just drop it.
Personally I find the current bollocks about folk 'owning' their actions to be the real offender here, that is heavily embarrassing terminology to be spouting.
Keep telling yourself stuff like that your Earlship. Whatever gets you through the night.

Well, "it is perhaps a Scottish shrug"....As they say. :ponder:


Half the chat on here last week was folks' favourite Banter. The Huns named it to sanitize matters for themselves, allowing them to compute but it's backfired. Everything bad that happens to them is now banter, Ally whipping players bottoms with towels and getting free kicks pinged at his bare arse in training is on a par with the takeover panel and Craig Whyte trial. They think it's all just bantz.
Edited by Pussyfoot, 30 Apr 2018, 10:40 AM.
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30 Apr 2018, 10:13 AM
Is it today that they announce the massive investment?
31st April :thumbsup:
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Spot the obvious mistake in this statement on the BBC web site comments.............

"It would be a positive move for Rangers and Gerrard. The support want progress, not instant success."
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IainG
30 Apr 2018, 10:35 AM
I'm quite sure Gerrard will take the job. He will improve them. Anybody could!
Gerrard would be better off taking a job in the lower leagues in England when he is ready for management than getting involved in that circus.

He will be protected and nurtured at Liverpool until that point,so going to sevco is just asking for trouble. The huns expectations are so unrealistic and unattainable they wouldn't be long in turning on him.

That said I hope he does take it. Its got car crash written all over it.
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30 Apr 2018, 10:14 AM
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30 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM
You wonder just how much due diligence Gerrard has done.

How does he shift 10 or 12 of that squad? Five are loanees, but only Miller and Bates are out of contract.

Similarly, can you imagine someone like Steven Gerrard being told by an overpaid spinner like James Traynor who he can and cannot talk to in media conferences? Can you imagine him being told he cannot talk to the BBC? It would reflect badly on him, something that Traynor and whoever else is happy enough with that policy fail to understand.

Gerrard is very much media conscious. Half of the appeal to him is probably the profile it gives him in England. Not being able to talk to the BBC cuts off a key element of that.
I also wonder if he has decent advisors

Not old pro’s who will offer clichéd responses but ye know - accountants and folk like that

Ones who can look at the figures, their accounts, the TOP decision and recent years loan supported mediocrity

Anyone who can look at that and say ‘this is a great opportunity Stevie’ is one of two things - mental or is in fact a full on GASL loving sevco fan

The two are not mutually exclusive I know - the person could be both
His agent while he was a player was Struan Marshall. He is now Executive Vice President at WMG. These kind of folk don't often make a misstep.

It was WMG that brokered his deal with LA Galaxy. I guess that made Gerrard a lot of money without exactly doing much to ruin his reputation as a player.

This is totally different. He clearly has ambitions in football management unlike people like Ferdinand, Scholes, Neville etc. It could finish that for him before he gets started.

Any PR savvy individual is going to know just how fruity the finances, PR and optics are at Sevco. They are a shambles on and off the pitch.

Can you imagine Dan Walker approaching Gerrard as Sevco manager on the eve of a new season to do an interview that will air on Football Focus across the country to the widest possible audience he'll ever reach in that role, and being told it can't happen by Jabba?

The small mindedness of it all seems above Gerrard, but what do I know.

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30 Apr 2018, 09:47 AM
Is there any way in which Nacho Novo might be offered the job? :pray:
Last I saw of this guy he was keeping some extremely questionable company, so probably aye.
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Pussyfoot
30 Apr 2018, 10:24 AM
Earl of Leven

They can't stand 'the banter years'....

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....managed to avoid game yesterday but a few tims tried it on. I responded to one who is a good friend and one thing he said was interesting but backs up what I've suspected for a while.

They HATE the Banter Years. They hate that we have 'taken ownership' of it....that we have jokes before they do....that we CAN laugh at ourselves....that we keep filling the stadium....that there is no scope for comedy as we have it covered.

It is perhaps a Scottish shrug, and some will see it as small-minded - but in fact it is to our credit that we have sailed the stormy seas these last years with a sense of humour, perspective, and loyalty.
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I feel physically sick when Rangers fans use that term.
Can we just drop it.
Personally I find the current bollocks about folk 'owning' their actions to be the real offender here, that is heavily embarrassing terminology to be spouting.
Delusional carrot. Hope your next scheidt's a hedgehog

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30 Apr 2018, 10:40 AM
Luca
30 Apr 2018, 10:13 AM
Is it today that they announce the massive investment?
1st April :thumbsup:
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30 Apr 2018, 10:19 AM
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30 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM
You wonder just how much due diligence Gerrard has done.

How does he shift 10 or 12 of that squad? Five are loanees, but only Miller and Bates are out of contract.

Similarly, can you imagine someone like Steven Gerrard being told by an overpaid spinner like James Traynor who he can and cannot talk to in media conferences? Can you imagine him being told he cannot talk to the BBC? It would reflect badly on him, something that Traynor and whoever else is happy enough with that policy fail to understand.

Gerrard is very much media conscious. Half of the appeal to him is probably the profile it gives him in England. Not being able to talk to the BBC cuts off a key element of that.
Watched a couple of English football shows over the weekend where pundits were asked about Gerrard going to Ibrox. Was clear they had zero knowledge of the game up here. Would be like asking me to analyse someone going to manage a team in the Welsh league. They all knew the historical significance of Rangers but don’t think any of them - including Souness - could name three current Ibrox players. Gerrard will doubtless be the same. He’ll have been influenced by the success Rodgers has had here and probably thinks it’s like the old days where two giant clubs with similar budgets are still battling it out.
That's a very good point you make.

On Football Focus yesterday, they were talking about how he'd be great for the huns & they could end up with all Liverpool's wonderkids.

They simply don't understand Scottish football. This idea anyone can come here & stroll it is so wide of the mark. They also only think of Rodgers coming close to winning the league & being sacked at Liverpool - they won't even contemplate that he's got us light years ahead of the game in Scotland.

I suspect Gerrard will have as much clue how it works up here as the next person down there. He didn't have many failures as a player, so I doubt this will phase him - he just won't grasp the enormity of the situation.

The good news for him is he will soon learn the hard way.
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damosuzuki
30 Apr 2018, 10:56 AM
SaMule
30 Apr 2018, 09:47 AM
Is there any way in which Nacho Novo might be offered the job? :pray:
Last I saw of this guy he was keeping some extremely questionable company, so probably aye.
He'd be the perfect fit. Cheap and a hun scrote. A crap manager too, probably, but does that really matter, if they don't have any cash to spend anyway? No matter who they appoint, they are getting nowhere near us and are in danger of being left behind by Hibs and Aberdeen without major investment, and that's not going to happen.
At least having a hunned up bawbag in charge would keep some of them on side.
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Is Paul Merson the only English pundit to say SG would be mad to take this hun gig?
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30 Apr 2018, 11:05 AM
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30 Apr 2018, 10:19 AM
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30 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM
You wonder just how much due diligence Gerrard has done.

How does he shift 10 or 12 of that squad? Five are loanees, but only Miller and Bates are out of contract.

Similarly, can you imagine someone like Steven Gerrard being told by an overpaid spinner like James Traynor who he can and cannot talk to in media conferences? Can you imagine him being told he cannot talk to the BBC? It would reflect badly on him, something that Traynor and whoever else is happy enough with that policy fail to understand.

Gerrard is very much media conscious. Half of the appeal to him is probably the profile it gives him in England. Not being able to talk to the BBC cuts off a key element of that.
Watched a couple of English football shows over the weekend where pundits were asked about Gerrard going to Ibrox. Was clear they had zero knowledge of the game up here. Would be like asking me to analyse someone going to manage a team in the Welsh league. They all knew the historical significance of Rangers but don’t think any of them - including Souness - could name three current Ibrox players. Gerrard will doubtless be the same. He’ll have been influenced by the success Rodgers has had here and probably thinks it’s like the old days where two giant clubs with similar budgets are still battling it out.
That's a very good point you make.

On Football Focus yesterday, they were talking about how he'd be great for the huns & they could end up with all Liverpool's wonderkids.

They simply don't understand Scottish football. This idea anyone can come here & stroll it is so wide of the mark. They also only think of Rodgers coming close to winning the league & being sacked at Liverpool - they won't even contemplate that he's got us light years ahead of the game in Scotland.

I suspect Gerrard will have as much clue how it works up here as the next person down there. He didn't have many failures as a player, so I doubt this will phase him - he just won't grasp the enormity of the situation.

The good news for him is he will soon learn the hard way.
The worst of the lot was Souness. After the Liverpool v Stoke game, he was waxing lyrical about what a great club it was to manage. Yeah Graeme, I’m sure it was when you had eight England internationals in the team. Try getting a result at Celtic Park with a squad full of Championship loanees and SPL journeymen.
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30 Apr 2018, 10:42 AM
Spot the obvious mistake in this statement on the BBC web site comments.............

"It would be a positive move for Rangers and Gerrard. The support want progress, not instant success."
Are Instant Success in the Europa draw?
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To be perfectly honest, outside of online, I've not met a sevco fan who actually thinks that Gerrard is a good move.
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Are the huns genuinely excited at the prospect of an unproven, inexperienced rookie taking over at Ibrox as his first job in football management? If it were us he was linked with I wouldn't be all that happy, having already lived through the John Barnes experiment collapsing into fiasco.

Gerrard was a great player but he's an unknown quantity in the dug-out. This could be disastrous for both man and club. He would be well advised to start off elsewhere and build up a reputation that isn't mangled by the peculiar insanities of the huns in particular and Glasgow football in general.
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30 Apr 2018, 11:27 AM
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30 Apr 2018, 10:42 AM
Spot the obvious mistake in this statement on the BBC web site comments.............

"It would be a positive move for Rangers and Gerrard. The support want progress, not instant success."
Are Instant Success in the Europa draw?
Based on last year, progress (Progres) would be getting into the second qualification round of the Europa League. The reality is that this is as far they'll go.

This is another thing you'd think would be weighed up by those considering this shampoo show. You'll have a competitive European fixture likely to be extremely important to finances before the the World Cup semi finals have even been played.

The level of delusion from them last year was such that they saw the final PO round for the EL as a minimum objective. They actually thought they could qualify for the groups despite being unseeded in fully three rounds.

Crashing out to some barely average outfit in a ramshackle stadium in Cyprus in mid July is probably about as far away from good career planning a new manager can get.
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I can’t really recall but what was the reaction of our support when Liam Brady was appointed manager under similar circumstances in the early 90s? Were people excited about the prospect of a well respected ‘big name’ coming in? Or was it viewed as a crazy left field gamble?
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ESPN reporting Sevco have offered Gerrard a 4 year deal... a rookie U18 manager. They are a shambles.
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What is being forgotten also is that Stevie G is a bit of a ned.

Would that temper be able to be held in check?
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Hang on a minute. It was meant to be a done deal. Whits this 'talks' shampooe?

Is he effing shampooing it from a massive club?
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