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Champions League Qualifying 2018/19; 1st Round - Alashkert (ARM). Away first. 2nd Round - Valur Reykjavic (ISL) or Rosenborg (NOR). Home first.
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jim62
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Hank Scorpio
9 May 2018, 11:39 PM
moravcik67
9 May 2018, 11:36 PM
I wouldn't call the extra game a glorified pre-season friendly. Quite the opposite. We now face 3 rounds containing some tough teams, instead of just 2. The 1st round is the equivalent of where we entered the tournament in previous years, but after that it's considerably tougher. For example, based on the last time I checked, we could face the following

2nd Round - Malmo, Red Star Belgrade, Rosenborg, Brondby, Hapoel Be'er Sheva

3rd Round - Astana, BATE, Dinamo Zagreb, AEK Athens

Playoff - Steau Bucharest, APOEL, Young Boys, Legia Warsaw.

Of course it depends on the draw, and who gets knocked out along the way. And also how UEFA handle draws being made before the previous round completes. But the potential is there for 3 tough ties. And that's as a seeded team.
That gives me the fear.
We shoukd be perfectly capable of beating all of them ... none of them will fancy a match against us
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jim62
9 May 2018, 11:47 PM
Hank Scorpio
9 May 2018, 11:39 PM
moravcik67
9 May 2018, 11:36 PM
I wouldn't call the extra game a glorified pre-season friendly. Quite the opposite. We now face 3 rounds containing some tough teams, instead of just 2. The 1st round is the equivalent of where we entered the tournament in previous years, but after that it's considerably tougher. For example, based on the last time I checked, we could face the following

2nd Round - Malmo, Red Star Belgrade, Rosenborg, Brondby, Hapoel Be'er Sheva

3rd Round - Astana, BATE, Dinamo Zagreb, AEK Athens

Playoff - Steau Bucharest, APOEL, Young Boys, Legia Warsaw.

Of course it depends on the draw, and who gets knocked out along the way. And also how UEFA handle draws being made before the previous round completes. But the potential is there for 3 tough ties. And that's as a seeded team.
That gives me the fear.
We shoukd be perfectly capable of beating all of them ... none of them will fancy a match against us
Of course. Not disagreeing. And we might not draw any of them. But it's an extra round against that could potentially be against the type of team we've struggled against in recent seasons. And we rarely make these things easy for ourselves.
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We've got £30m in the bank already, we will be fine..

Wibble.
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ssmith81
9 May 2018, 11:01 PM
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cfc88cfc
30 Apr 2018, 08:48 PM
Going to be extremely difficult for us to qualify, 8 weeks of straight qualifiers is ridiculous. Going to be an expensive one for those of us who travel.
It will be tough but having to play in the first round might prove to be a good thing and will do more to help get us up to speed than playing friendlies.
Exactly. There really isn't much of a downfall to the 4th qualifier and this myth should be binned.

It's a glorified preseason friendly that Hibs or Aberdeen would get through.
It's definitely not a myth. The standard of teams coming into the Champions Route has increased, the number of seeded slots in the play-off has been reduced and we face 3 tricky ties as opposed to 2.
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moravcik67
9 May 2018, 11:36 PM
I wouldn't call the extra game a glorified pre-season friendly. Quite the opposite. We now face 3 rounds containing some tough teams, instead of just 2. The 1st round is the equivalent of where we entered the tournament in previous years, but after that it's considerably tougher. For example, based on the last time I checked, we could face the following

2nd Round - Malmo, Red Star Belgrade, Rosenborg, Brondby, Hapoel Be'er Sheva

3rd Round - Astana, BATE, Dinamo Zagreb, AEK Athens

Playoff - Steau Bucharest, APOEL, Young Boys, Legia Warsaw.

Of course it depends on the draw, and who gets knocked out along the way. And also how UEFA handle draws being made before the previous round completes. But the potential is there for 3 tough ties. And that's as a seeded team.
I'm talking about the 1st qualifier.
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bigdavie
9 May 2018, 11:47 PM
Well I’ll say what so many have said before. If we can’t beat the likes of Steua, APOEL and the likes we don’t deserve to be in the CL groups.
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Call it foolishness but I'm not worried about any of those teams. Could they beat us over 2 legs? Obviously. Should they beat us over 2 legs? I don't think so. If you were an outsider looking at the ties and fancied a punt, you'd bet on Celtic to get through 90% of the teams.
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If we play at our best like the 5-0 game we should have a fighting chance of qualifying. If we play like last night then we won't make the Europa League.

We need to dump the dross, recruit well and pray for no major injuries.
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9 May 2018, 11:00 PM
got a feeling we will meet astana again :boik:
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10 May 2018, 03:29 AM
moravcik67
9 May 2018, 11:36 PM
I wouldn't call the extra game a glorified pre-season friendly. Quite the opposite. We now face 3 rounds containing some tough teams, instead of just 2. The 1st round is the equivalent of where we entered the tournament in previous years, but after that it's considerably tougher. For example, based on the last time I checked, we could face the following

2nd Round - Malmo, Red Star Belgrade, Rosenborg, Brondby, Hapoel Be'er Sheva

3rd Round - Astana, BATE, Dinamo Zagreb, AEK Athens

Playoff - Steau Bucharest, APOEL, Young Boys, Legia Warsaw.

Of course it depends on the draw, and who gets knocked out along the way. And also how UEFA handle draws being made before the previous round completes. But the potential is there for 3 tough ties. And that's as a seeded team.
I'm talking about the 1st qualifier.
But up until this year we only had two 'tough' ties following the typically easy first tie. We now have three of those in addition to the Linfield/Red Imps/Whoever it might be.

All four ties should still be winnable but to suggest it hasn't gotten tougher with the addition of this extra round of qualifying is ridiculous.
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We will be slight favourites against these teams but we are heavy favourites against the Killies and St Johnstones of this world and don't always come out on top. Over three rounds ( 1st is a gimmie) it's a crap shoot. The odds of getting through these every year are very high we will fail sometimes. Hopefully not this year.
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Jam back on.

I think if anything past results in Europe means we can never take anything for granted. We almost collapsed in Astana with a 5 goal advantage so we are capable of anything really.

Looking at the teams above we must surely have the financial advantage over all of them which obviously doesn't guarantee you anything but we should, in theory, have the better team and also a team with a couple of years CL experience behind them. The downside is we don't know who will still be here and with a World Cup potentially hindering any transfer moves recruitment is going to be crucial.
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Good to see Tottenham--a team that has not won its domestic title for 57 years--will play Champions League football next season.
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Shuggie Edvaldsson
10 May 2018, 12:33 PM
Good to see Tottenham--a team that has not won its domestic title for 57 years--will play Champions League football next season.
Means “more than a trophy” according to one of their players. Not the group of players I’d go to to ask about winning trophies but that’s just me.
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Ron Swanson
10 May 2018, 12:38 PM
Shuggie Edvaldsson
10 May 2018, 12:33 PM
Good to see Tottenham--a team that has not won its domestic title for 57 years--will play Champions League football next season.
Means “more than a trophy” according to one of their players. Not the group of players I’d go to to ask about winning trophies but that’s just me.
Second leg against Juve and semi-final against United tells you all you need to know about the mentality of that squad.
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10 May 2018, 10:10 AM
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10 May 2018, 03:29 AM
moravcik67
9 May 2018, 11:36 PM
I wouldn't call the extra game a glorified pre-season friendly. Quite the opposite. We now face 3 rounds containing some tough teams, instead of just 2. The 1st round is the equivalent of where we entered the tournament in previous years, but after that it's considerably tougher. For example, based on the last time I checked, we could face the following

2nd Round - Malmo, Red Star Belgrade, Rosenborg, Brondby, Hapoel Be'er Sheva

3rd Round - Astana, BATE, Dinamo Zagreb, AEK Athens

Playoff - Steau Bucharest, APOEL, Young Boys, Legia Warsaw.

Of course it depends on the draw, and who gets knocked out along the way. And also how UEFA handle draws being made before the previous round completes. But the potential is there for 3 tough ties. And that's as a seeded team.
I'm talking about the 1st qualifier.
But up until this year we only had two 'tough' ties following the typically easy first tie. We now have three of those in addition to the Linfield/Red Imps/Whoever it might be.

All four ties should still be winnable but to suggest it hasn't gotten tougher with the addition of this extra round of qualifying is ridiculous.
As long as we win our first leg by 5/6 goals we’ll be fine :twitch:
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Our defence is suspect even at qualifier level, so clear out all the deadwood and buy a whole new defence with the profit from last year, otherwise it's a waste of time.

Then I would be a bit more confident.
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10 May 2018, 10:10 AM
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10 May 2018, 03:29 AM
moravcik67
9 May 2018, 11:36 PM
I wouldn't call the extra game a glorified pre-season friendly. Quite the opposite. We now face 3 rounds containing some tough teams, instead of just 2. The 1st round is the equivalent of where we entered the tournament in previous years, but after that it's considerably tougher. For example, based on the last time I checked, we could face the following

2nd Round - Malmo, Red Star Belgrade, Rosenborg, Brondby, Hapoel Be'er Sheva

3rd Round - Astana, BATE, Dinamo Zagreb, AEK Athens

Playoff - Steau Bucharest, APOEL, Young Boys, Legia Warsaw.

Of course it depends on the draw, and who gets knocked out along the way. And also how UEFA handle draws being made before the previous round completes. But the potential is there for 3 tough ties. And that's as a seeded team.
I'm talking about the 1st qualifier.
But up until this year we only had two 'tough' ties following the typically easy first tie. We now have three of those in addition to the Linfield/Red Imps/Whoever it might be.

All four ties should still be winnable but to suggest it hasn't gotten tougher with the addition of this extra round of qualifying is ridiculous.
Never said it didn't get tougher. What I did say and will say again, is that the 1st qualifier is a glorified friendly that the reserves will win.
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10 May 2018, 02:18 PM
Our defence is suspect even at qualifier level, so clear out all the deadwood and buy a whole new defence with the profit from last year, otherwise it's a waste of time.

Then I would be a bit more confident.
Doubt there will any changes to the squad between now and the qualifiers which start in about 10 weeks time. Any serious transfer activity will happen in late august. We go into these games with the squad we've got. Any two centre back pairing from Boyota, Ajer and Simunovic is not the best if you want to have confidence about getting through these 4 ties. If Gordon and/or Lustig gets injured and we have to play De Vries/Hendry, it really is daunting.
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10 May 2018, 02:20 PM
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10 May 2018, 10:10 AM
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10 May 2018, 03:29 AM

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But up until this year we only had two 'tough' ties following the typically easy first tie. We now have three of those in addition to the Linfield/Red Imps/Whoever it might be.

All four ties should still be winnable but to suggest it hasn't gotten tougher with the addition of this extra round of qualifying is ridiculous.
Never said it didn't get tougher. What I did say and will say again, is that the 1st qualifier is a glorified friendly that the reserves will win.
Malmö just got pumped 3-0 in Swedish cup final. They're gash this year, only the other 19 or so to worry about.
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