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Leigh Griffiths; in talks to extend contract
Topic Started: 23 Jan 2018, 10:49 PM (70,053 Views)
El Salto
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Has to start against Hibs

And has to forget he`s a Hibs fan, and rattle a few in their net
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Country Mac
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Could go on a big tangent about this guy, but why bother? Some folk have their heels dug in so deep that it's a waste of time arguing.

I'm just glad we have him in this age of fleeting loyalty in football, where so many see no long-term future at Celtic. As another poster put it very aptly in the post-match thread. We don't need to buy him, we don't need to sell him. He's ours.

Proven himself at every level other than against the PSG/Man Citys of this world. How we do against the likes of Anderlecht, Astana, Be'er Sheva (sadly) is more important these days. He's been our best player in a good amount of these games and I hope he continues this form and gets the nod against Zenit as well.
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24 Jan 2018, 01:34 AM
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24 Jan 2018, 01:28 AM
Pussyfoot
24 Jan 2018, 01:24 AM

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Leicester have that many available because they can't get rid of a few of them.

The Arsenal players you mentioned 3 of them can play from wide positions too.

There is no top team on the planet who shares game time between 3 strikers the way we have this season unless they have been forced to through injury.
As we have at times, and now you are getting the gist of it. Injuries, you forgot them did you not? What about loss of form, suspensions? Have Arsenal not shared game time between strikers and not necessarily because of injury?

Rotation is part of today's game, we play the same teams twice as often as any of these other Leagues, I'd like option two up front to give the opposition a different look, a different problem. You can't do that with two forwards in your squad. You won't get through a season without dragging players out of their position and giving yourself an alternative headache when your miserly two man front line goes down or loses form.
You're right.

I forgot how much we struggled last season with two centre forwards.

Rotation is fine - and I said I'm happy with us having 3 strikers in the squad but what I want is for us to have an agreed number 1 striker with someone putting pressure on him and someone happy to be a bit part player. Rotating one position - maybe the most important in the team - between 3 players who all have different styles is detrimental to building any sort of rhythm in the side.
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Ste
24 Jan 2018, 01:38 AM
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24 Jan 2018, 01:34 AM
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24 Jan 2018, 01:28 AM

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As we have at times, and now you are getting the gist of it. Injuries, you forgot them did you not? What about loss of form, suspensions? Have Arsenal not shared game time between strikers and not necessarily because of injury?

Rotation is part of today's game, we play the same teams twice as often as any of these other Leagues, I'd like option two up front to give the opposition a different look, a different problem. You can't do that with two forwards in your squad. You won't get through a season without dragging players out of their position and giving yourself an alternative headache when your miserly two man front line goes down or loses form.
You're right.

I forgot how much we struggled last season with two centre forwards.

Rotation is fine - and I said I'm happy with us having 3 strikers in the squad but what I want is for us to have an agreed number 1 striker with someone putting pressure on him and someone happy to be a bit part player. Rotating one position - maybe the most important in the team - between 3 players who all have different styles is detrimental to building any sort of rhythm in the side.
Totally agree. Griff should be no 1 striker. It was Brendan's only error last year to put Moussa in ahead of Griff too often. Moussa will be a fantastic player within 2 years, and rightly will command an enormous transfer fee, but right now Griff is just a better player.
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Ste
24 Jan 2018, 01:38 AM
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24 Jan 2018, 01:34 AM
Ste
24 Jan 2018, 01:28 AM

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As we have at times, and now you are getting the gist of it. Injuries, you forgot them did you not? What about loss of form, suspensions? Have Arsenal not shared game time between strikers and not necessarily because of injury?

Rotation is part of today's game, we play the same teams twice as often as any of these other Leagues, I'd like option two up front to give the opposition a different look, a different problem. You can't do that with two forwards in your squad. You won't get through a season without dragging players out of their position and giving yourself an alternative headache when your miserly two man front line goes down or loses form.
You're right.

I forgot how much we struggled last season with two centre forwards.

Rotation is fine - and I said I'm happy with us having 3 strikers in the squad but what I want is for us to have an agreed number 1 striker with someone putting pressure on him and someone happy to be a bit part player. Rotating one position - maybe the most important in the team - between 3 players who all have different styles is detrimental to building any sort of rhythm in the side.
I don't think the rotation has been entirely by design. I think the setup you've described more or less matches what we aimed to do this season but because of injury, form, bad behaviour and speculation it hasn't happened like that. It rarely ever will if you say here's my man, I'll stick by him, he's the guy for these sixty games coming up!

It's all a bit fantasy island for me, no injuries, no international fatigue, no personal schmaltz
Edited by Pussyfoot, 24 Jan 2018, 01:47 AM.
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Leigh's The Guy.

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The Leigh naysayers are a little quiet..... :lol:
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Ste
24 Jan 2018, 01:38 AM
Pussyfoot
24 Jan 2018, 01:34 AM
Ste
24 Jan 2018, 01:28 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
As we have at times, and now you are getting the gist of it. Injuries, you forgot them did you not? What about loss of form, suspensions? Have Arsenal not shared game time between strikers and not necessarily because of injury?

Rotation is part of today's game, we play the same teams twice as often as any of these other Leagues, I'd like option two up front to give the opposition a different look, a different problem. You can't do that with two forwards in your squad. You won't get through a season without dragging players out of their position and giving yourself an alternative headache when your miserly two man front line goes down or loses form.
You're right.

I forgot how much we struggled last season with two centre forwards.

Rotation is fine - and I said I'm happy with us having 3 strikers in the squad but what I want is for us to have an agreed number 1 striker with someone putting pressure on him and someone happy to be a bit part player. Rotating one position - maybe the most important in the team - between 3 players who all have different styles is detrimental to building any sort of rhythm in the side.
What I want is a team that can go 70 something games with just one defeat, win every trophy they are in and reach the CL consistently.

Seems more important than being able to put labels on what kind of strikers you have in your squad, but that’s just me.
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We'd certainly notice the difference if we lost Leigh instead of Moussa in my opinion
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As per the last thread, if the personal squabbling takes over the thread, the thread will get closed. People are allowed to hold an opinion on a player, and discuss why they hold that opinion - good or bad. Deal with it. If you're getting too personal in your posts, put the other person on ignore.
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The bickering in this thread has already become tedious and it is going the same way as the last one. Why has a mod not said anything?
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I don't really see why the Mods are being so sensitive about people debating on this thread.

Just let them get on with it - I'm sure nobody will top themselves for having someone disagree with them on their opinions of one player :lol:
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24 Jan 2018, 12:58 AM
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24 Jan 2018, 12:32 AM
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24 Jan 2018, 12:29 AM
Didn't he score in the home game v Killie?
He did.

He still missed an open goal from 5 yards at 1-1.

People moaning about me bringing up games in which his misses have cost us despite being challenged to do so.

:doh:
Conveniently forgetting Dembele sclaffed a pen to go one nil up vs Barca. Got thumped.
Dembele also scored a CL goal that hit his chest on the goal line and overhead sclaffed one into the corner vs City.

Let's put it this way, for all his foibles Griff has a greater array of goals and and attributes that Dembele simply doesn't have.
The only things that Dembele has ahead of Griff is strength and youth, nothing more.

You're anti Griffiths pish got one thread closed, you looking to try again?
Little Norse bridge dwelling type.
This is trash. And it helps your cause not one iota.
Edited by Flawless, 24 Jan 2018, 08:41 AM.
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Changed the game last night. Just lifted the whole team when he came on and offered us something Edouard couldn't.
Took his goal really well but should have had another two. His first chance in particular was a bad miss.
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24 Jan 2018, 08:46 AM
Changed the game last night. Just lifted the whole team when he came on and offered us something Edouard couldn't.
Took his goal really well but should have had another two. His first chance in particular was a bad miss.
So you're saying he scored 1 out of 3 chances, that's not bad IMO
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24 Jan 2018, 08:48 AM
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24 Jan 2018, 08:46 AM
Changed the game last night. Just lifted the whole team when he came on and offered us something Edouard couldn't.
Took his goal really well but should have had another two. His first chance in particular was a bad miss.
So you're saying he scored 1 out of 3 chances, that's not bad IMO
It will need to be better against zenit.
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24 Jan 2018, 01:35 AM
Could go on a big tangent about this guy, but why bother? Some folk have their heels dug in so deep that it's a waste of time arguing.

I'm just glad we have him in this age of fleeting loyalty in football, where so many see no long-term future at Celtic. As another poster put it very aptly in the post-match thread. We don't need to buy him, we don't need to sell him. He's ours.

Proven himself at every level other than against the PSG/Man Citys of this world. How we do against the likes of Anderlecht, Astana, Be'er Sheva (sadly) is more important these days. He's been our best player in a good amount of these games and I hope he continues this form and gets the nod against Zenit as well.
Well said :thumbsup:
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Should never be out of the side, simple as that
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24 Jan 2018, 08:46 AM
Changed the game last night. Just lifted the whole team when he came on and offered us something Edouard couldn't.
Took his goal really well but should have had another two. His first chance in particular was a bad miss.
So you're saying he scored 1 out of 3 chances, that's not bad IMO
It is not bad.

The fact he missed a far easier chance in his first one on one is not good. Give him time to think about a chance and more often than not he will miss it.
Can't afford that against Zenit.
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24 Jan 2018, 01:23 AM
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24 Jan 2018, 01:17 AM
Ste
24 Jan 2018, 12:56 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThe majority of the discussion about Griffiths usually centres around some insane praise from one of his followers. The minute someone mentions a deficiency in his game they get abused and their card is marked in every thread on the board. The people who love him then dig themselves into so many different holes trying to convince themselves he's good enough to play vs Zenit whilst greeting on the transfer window thread about how we aren't strengthening the team. :doh:
Presumably you've marked the card of several posters as 'followers' of LG based on their "insane praise" in the same way you claim the likes of yourselves cards are marked for the consistent criticism. It's tit for tat.

Simple truth is some posters never got over the fact that a guy with a blotted copybook wasn't chased out of the club like they had wanted and so have to find any number of reasons to pick at his football as a veil for the real reason they dislike him – rather than just admitting it is still about the Skacel thing.
I've been on here since 2004 or something and I dont think I've ever made a post about Griffiths relating to the Skacel incident or any of his other racist comments. So nope - none of that stuff has any bearing on my opinion of him as a footballer.


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