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Leigh Griffiths; in talks to extend contract
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Topic Started: 23 Jan 2018, 10:49 PM (70,054 Views)
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24 Jan 2018, 01:09 AM
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.
Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.
But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Largely true. What's also true, and bizarre, is the sensitivity some Celtic fans have with regards to Griffiths being regarded as even slightly inferior to Dembele. Agree with that.
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24 Jan 2018, 01:10 AM
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Of course I am. I can see his good and bad points. But he won us the game so that is all that matters and yeez were booing him coz you hate him, you cried when he scored and he pumped her bird so GIRFUY and other quality Patter. The previous thread got locked because the people who can’t see past him can’t take criticism of him. He’s a very good SPFL striker. How many times do I have to say it? He’s not a fantastic player or a top quality striker. I’ve seen plenty at Celtic. He isn’t in that league.
I've seen them all since Charlie Nicholas. Griff is 2nd only to Larsson. And like Larsson he shows the class to tuck away a goal after missing a chance. How many goals did Leigh Griffiths score the season before last? The guy is pure quality. I love the wee man as well and he is a really good Celtic player who will join the 100 goal club soon but excluding Larsson he is behind Nicholas, McClair, McAvennie, PVH, Cadete, Hartson, Sutton off the top of my head. Probably on a par with Hooper.
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24 Jan 2018, 01:11 AM
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To be honest I wouldn’t want any of our players to be happy about not being first pick.
Theres being happy and theres being disruptive. When you're arguing with the manager because you've been subbed that is a totally different story. Or jumping on twitter to indirectly take digs at your team mate etc. I think he realised his mistake when he argued with the manager after being subbed last season and in the heat of the moment players can do daft thing,as jinky did with jock.However you’re right about twitter,he should be told to stop going on twitter.
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Didn't he score in the home game v Killie?
He did. He still missed an open goal from 5 yards at 1-1. People moaning about me bringing up games in which his misses have cost us despite being challenged to do so.
Conveniently forgetting Dembele sclaffed a pen to go one nil up vs Barca. Got thumped. Dembele also scored a CL goal that hit his chest on the goal line and overhead sclaffed one into the corner vs City. Let's put it this way, for all his foibles Griff has a greater array of goals and and attributes that Dembele simply doesn't have. The only things that Dembele has ahead of Griff is strength and youth, nothing more. You're anti Griffiths pish got one thread closed, you looking to try again? Little Norse bridge dwelling type. we were already one down in barca
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24 Jan 2018, 01:12 AM
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Players do get injured, I'm tired of reading that two Strikers is enough. The wingers folk want to be auxiliary forwards have got their own game in need of improvement right now never mind being reallocated whenever a Striker goes down.
What other team has 3 strikers sharing game time? It doesnt happen. If we have three strikers fighting it out for one place then one of them needs to know that the likelihood is he isn't going to start many games - if any at all. West Ham have four sharing game time, just to give you a quick reply. Liverpool play three and have Sturrdge, Ings and Solanke available.
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Griffiths is a very good striker in the SPFL. He flopped at Wolves and we should be aiming for higher.
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24 Jan 2018, 01:13 AM
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What other team has 3 strikers sharing game time? It doesnt happen. If we have three strikers fighting it out for one place then one of them needs to know that the likelihood is he isn't going to start many games - if any at all.
West Ham have four sharing game time, just to give you a quick reply. What top team then?
Not Real, not Barca, not Bayern, not Chelsea, not City, not PSG etc etc.
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24 Jan 2018, 01:14 AM
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West Ham have four sharing game time, just to give you a quick reply.
What top team then? Not Real, not Barca, not Bayern, not Chelsea, not City, not PSG etc etc. We aren't on that level and can't spend 80 million on a player.
Stupid comment.
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West Ham have four sharing game time, just to give you a quick reply.
What top team then? Not Real, not Barca, not Bayern, not Chelsea, not City, not PSG etc etc. Liverpool have six strikers or more on their books.
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I've seen them all since Charlie Nicholas. Griff is 2nd only to Larsson. And like Larsson he shows the class to tuck away a goal after missing a chance. How many goals did Leigh Griffiths score the season before last? The guy is pure quality.
I love the wee man as well and he is a really good Celtic player who will join the 100 goal club soon but excluding Larsson he is behind Nicholas, McClair, McAvennie, PVH, Cadete, Hartson, Sutton off the top of my head. Probably on a par with Hooper. We'll need to see what happens next. Griff scores more than any you mentioned, and though it's not the be all and end all, it's very important obviously. Personally I think he would have burst records if Moussa hadn't arrived. I think he still will. Just to reiterate: I think he is a fantastic footballer.
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What top team then? Not Real, not Barca, not Bayern, not Chelsea, not City, not PSG etc etc.
We aren't on that level and can't spend 80 million on a player. Stupid comment.
I'm not saying we should go out and buy Suarez or Lewandowski. I'm saying that the top teams have a nailed on number 1 striker and usually 1 player as back up. If the focal point of our attack constantly changes from game to game it hurts us more than it helps us.
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.
Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.
But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Nobody else pretends Boyata is the best centre half we've had since Billy McNeill though. The majority of the discussion about Griffiths usually centres around some insane praise from one of his followers. The minute someone mentions a deficiency in his game they get abused and their card is marked in every thread on the board. The people who love him then dig themselves into so many different holes trying to convince themselves he's good enough to play vs Zenit whilst greeting on the transfer window thread about how we aren't strengthening the team. Presumably you've marked the card of several posters as 'followers' of LG based on their "insane praise" in the same way you claim the likes of yourselves cards are marked for the consistent criticism. It's tit for tat.
Simple truth is some posters never got over the fact that a guy with a blotted copybook wasn't chased out of the club like they had wanted and so have to find any number of reasons to pick at his football as a veil for the real reason they dislike him – rather than just admitting it is still about the Skacel thing.
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24 Jan 2018, 01:22 AM
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.
Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.
But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Nobody else pretends Boyata is the best centre half we've had since Billy McNeill though. The majority of the discussion about Griffiths usually centres around some insane praise from one of his followers. The minute someone mentions a deficiency in his game they get abused and their card is marked in every thread on the board. The people who love him then dig themselves into so many different holes trying to convince themselves he's good enough to play vs Zenit whilst greeting on the transfer window thread about how we aren't strengthening the team.
Presumably you've marked the card of several posters as 'followers' of LG based on their "insane praise" in the same way you claim the likes of yourselves cards are marked for the consistent criticism. It's tit for tat. Simple truth is some posters never got over the fact that a guy with a blotted copybook wasn't chased out of the club like they had wanted and so have to find any number of reasons to pick at his football as a veil for the real reason they dislike him – rather than just admitting it is still about the Skacel thing. Could be true. 
Surely he's shown that he understands that stuff was bad and has grown up in that way. Just seems like overkill to keep it against him forever. I reckon he's a good guy now.
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.
Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.
But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Nobody else pretends Boyata is the best centre half we've had since Billy McNeill though. The majority of the discussion about Griffiths usually centres around some insane praise from one of his followers. The minute someone mentions a deficiency in his game they get abused and their card is marked in every thread on the board. The people who love him then dig themselves into so many different holes trying to convince themselves he's good enough to play vs Zenit whilst greeting on the transfer window thread about how we aren't strengthening the team.
Presumably you've marked the card of several posters as 'followers' of LG based on their "insane praise" in the same way you claim the likes of yourselves cards are marked for the consistent criticism. It's tit for tat. Simple truth is some posters never got over the fact that a guy with a blotted copybook wasn't chased out of the club like they had wanted and so have to find any number of reasons to pick at his football as a veil for the real reason they dislike him – rather than just admitting it is still about the Skacel thing. I've been on here since 2004 or something and I dont think I've ever made a post about Griffiths relating to the Skacel incident or any of his other racist comments. So nope - none of that stuff has any bearing on my opinion of him as a footballer.
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We aren't on that level and can't spend 80 million on a player. Stupid comment. I'm not saying we should go out and buy Suarez or Lewandowski. I'm saying that the top teams have a nailed on number 1 striker and usually 1 player as back up. If the focal point of our attack constantly changes from game to game it hurts us more than it helps us. All these teams have back up options, Leicester have Vardy, Osaka, Ulloa, Slimani and Iheancho available.
Arsenal had Sanchez, Lacazette, Giroud, Welbeck blah blah. It's a nonsense to want two Strikers. It's highly irresponsible.
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We aren't on that level and can't spend 80 million on a player. Stupid comment. I'm not saying we should go out and buy Suarez or Lewandowski. I'm saying that the top teams have a nailed on number 1 striker and usually 1 player as back up. If the focal point of our attack constantly changes from game to game it hurts us more than it helps us. It's a bit hard when your top two strikers have picked up injuries occasionally.
Dembele would have played most weeks if he wasn't injured and took time getting back.
Rodgers rotates too much to have one striker starting every game.
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I'm not saying we should go out and buy Suarez or Lewandowski. I'm saying that the top teams have a nailed on number 1 striker and usually 1 player as back up. If the focal point of our attack constantly changes from game to game it hurts us more than it helps us.
All these teams have back up options, Leicester have Vardy, Osaka, Ulloa, Slimani and Iheancho available. Arsenal had Sanchez, Lacazette, Giroud, Welbeck blah blah. It's a nonsense to want two Strikers. It's highly irresponsible. Leicester have that many available because they can't get rid of a few of them.
The Arsenal players you mentioned 3 of them can play from wide positions too.
There is no top team on the planet who shares game time between 3 strikers the way we have this season unless they have been forced to through injury.
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All these teams have back up options, Leicester have Vardy, Osaka, Ulloa, Slimani and Iheancho available. Arsenal had Sanchez, Lacazette, Giroud, Welbeck blah blah. It's a nonsense to want two Strikers. It's highly irresponsible.
Leicester have that many available because they can't get rid of a few of them. The Arsenal players you mentioned 3 of them can play from wide positions too. There is no top team on the planet who shares game time between 3 strikers the way we have this season unless they have been forced to through injury. We have been forced to through injury. Both Dembele and Griffiths have been injured at various times.
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Leicester have that many available because they can't get rid of a few of them. The Arsenal players you mentioned 3 of them can play from wide positions too. There is no top team on the planet who shares game time between 3 strikers the way we have this season unless they have been forced to through injury.
We have been forced to through injury. Both Dembele and Griffiths have been injured at various times. I'm not sure it would have made any difference. We had 3 fit strikers in December and all 3 of them started a few games each.
Edouard has started the last two and I doubt he'll be starting on Saturday. We need for one of Dembele, Griff or Odsonne to get a run of 6-7 games consecutively and see what level they can get to.
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All these teams have back up options, Leicester have Vardy, Osaka, Ulloa, Slimani and Iheancho available. Arsenal had Sanchez, Lacazette, Giroud, Welbeck blah blah. It's a nonsense to want two Strikers. It's highly irresponsible.
Leicester have that many available because they can't get rid of a few of them. The Arsenal players you mentioned 3 of them can play from wide positions too. There is no top team on the planet who shares game time between 3 strikers the way we have this season unless they have been forced to through injury. As we have at times, and now you are getting the gist of it. Injuries, you forgot them did you not? What about loss of form, suspensions? Have Arsenal not shared game time between strikers and not necessarily because of injury?
Rotation is part of today's game, we play the same teams twice as often as any of these other Leagues, I'd like the option of two up front to give the opposition a different look, a different problem. You can't do that with two forwards in your squad. You won't get through a season without dragging players out of their favoured position and giving yourself an alternative headache when your miserly two man front line goes down or loses form.
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