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Leigh Griffiths; in talks to extend contract
Topic Started: 23 Jan 2018, 10:49 PM (70,055 Views)
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Bit of a relief that, whatever happens with Moussa, we'll still have far and away the best goal scorer in the country regardless.

Not that he's at the level that he could do it all himself (Europe's obviously the big one).
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I'm assuming Hartson and Sutton are discounted because they played with Larsson. Other than Dembele and a holidaying Robbie Keane only McDonald would be close to LG in my opinion. Although I appreciate that might say more about our level of striker.
Hooper?
I'd rather have Griffiths, Hoops could interlink better and play deeper quite comfortably which helps in Europe. Dembele however is clearly a notch or two above both when at his best. Domestically, Leigh is exactly what we need in the squad and a fabulous asset.

I'm not a huge fan of playing Griffiths against top level European opposition, certainly I'd think we need Moussa or another top striker in the shirt as an inexperienced Edouard and Griffiths most likely won't cut the mustard in Russia.
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I know! :rubeyes:

He did actually type all that rubbish!
I'm assuming Hartson and Sutton are discounted because they played with Larsson. Other than Dembele and a holidaying Robbie Keane only McDonald would be close to LG in my opinion. Although I appreciate that might say more about our level of striker.
I've read that wrong. And he certainly isn't better than PVH Cadete Sutton or Hartson.
How many did Griff score the season before last? :ponder:
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.

Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.

But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
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:ffs: Not one player in our team is good enough at the moment to take us to the next level. Did you miss our CL campaign this year :ponder:
Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that?

We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them.
But Griffiths isn’t even first choice to play in the CL but back up to dembele.Which champions league quality striker should we buy to be back up to a Dembele or if he goes Dembele’s replacement?
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.

Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.

But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Nobody else pretends Boyata is the best centre half we've had since Billy McNeill though.

The majority of the discussion about Griffiths usually centres around some insane praise from one of his followers. The minute someone mentions a deficiency in his game they get abused and their card is marked in every thread on the board. The people who love him then dig themselves into so many different holes trying to convince themselves he's good enough to play vs Zenit whilst greeting on the transfer window thread about how we aren't strengthening the team. :doh:
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.

Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.

But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Kris Commons was similar in many ways, I think on a given day you accept the good, what they can do and be happy for it, particularly after getting us out of jail this evening... However, this is January and we do have a massive game against a very expensively assembled opposition ahead of us, I'm not sure now is not the time to be thinking on that and our options, come February that talk won't matter for nothing so now is a good time for consideration in regards to the evolving Moussassin situation.
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.

Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.

But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Largely true.

What's also true, and bizarre, is the sensitivity some Celtic fans have with regards to Griffiths being regarded as even slightly inferior to Dembele.
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Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that?

We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them.
But Griffiths isn’t even first choice to play in the CL but back up to dembele.Which champions league quality striker should we buy to be back up to a Dembele or if he goes Dembele’s replacement?
If Dembele stays I'm more than happy with Griffiths being back up - but Griffiths isn't happy with that. His attitude is pish.

If Dembele goes then in the words of Brendan Rodgers... another striker must come in.

And it'll be someone who's brought in to be first choice I imagine.
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Didn't he score in the home game v Killie?
He did.

He still missed an open goal from 5 yards at 1-1.

People moaning about me bringing up games in which his misses have cost us despite being challenged to do so.

:doh:
Conveniently forgetting Dembele sclaffed a pen to go one nil up vs Barca. Got thumped.
Dembele also scored a CL goal that hit his chest on the goal line and overhead sclaffed one into the corner vs City.

Let's put it this way, for all his foibles Griff has a greater array of goals and and attributes that Dembele simply doesn't have.
The only things that Dembele has ahead of Griff is strength and youth, nothing more.

You're anti Griffiths pish got one thread closed, you looking to try again?
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Didn't he score in the home game v Killie?
He did.

He still missed an open goal from 5 yards at 1-1.

People moaning about me bringing up games in which his misses have cost us despite being challenged to do so.

:doh:
Conveniently forgetting Dembele sclaffed a pen to go one nil up vs Barca. Got thumped.
Dembele also scored a CL goal that hit his chest on the goal line and overhead sclaffed one into the corner vs City.

Let's put it this way, for all his foibles Griff has a greater array of goals and and attributes that Dembele simply doesn't have.
The only things that Dembele has ahead of Griff is strength and youth, nothing more.

You're anti Griffiths pish got one thread closed, you looking to try again?
Little Norse bridge dwelling type.
See what I mean?

No facts. Just ridiculous claims and insults.

The majority of your posts this month have been aimed at me. Pathetic.
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But Griffiths isn’t even first choice to play in the CL but back up to dembele.Which champions league quality striker should we buy to be back up to a Dembele or if he goes Dembele’s replacement?
If Dembele stays I'm more than happy with Griffiths being back up - but Griffiths isn't happy with that. His attitude is pish.

If Dembele goes then in the words of Brendan Rodgers... another striker must come in.

And it'll be someone who's brought in to be first choice I imagine.
Of course we will need another striker if Dembele leaves, I think that would go without saying. We'll only have two left and one is a Loanee.

You do go on a bit.
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But Griffiths isn’t even first choice to play in the CL but back up to dembele.Which champions league quality striker should we buy to be back up to a Dembele or if he goes Dembele’s replacement?
If Dembele stays I'm more than happy with Griffiths being back up - but Griffiths isn't happy with that. His attitude is pish.

If Dembele goes then in the words of Brendan Rodgers... another striker must come in.

And it'll be someone who's brought in to be first choice I imagine.
To be honest I wouldn’t want any of our players to be happy about not being first pick.
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If Dembele stays I'm more than happy with Griffiths being back up - but Griffiths isn't happy with that. His attitude is pish.

If Dembele goes then in the words of Brendan Rodgers... another striker must come in.

And it'll be someone who's brought in to be first choice I imagine.
Of course we will need another striker I'd Dembele leaves, I think that would go without saying. We'll only have two left and one is a Loanee.

You do go on a bit.
Two good strikers would be enough to see us to the end of the season. We need a number 1 and we need him to get a long run of games as the constant chopping and changing is hurting the team.

I dont think Rodgers thinks Griffiths is good enough. He's full of praise for Edouard but deep down he knows he isn't Dembele.
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Conveniently forgetting Dembele sclaffed a pen to go one nil up vs Barca. Got thumped.
Dembele also scored a CL goal that hit his chest on the goal line and overhead sclaffed one into the corner vs City.

Let's put it this way, for all his foibles Griff has a greater array of goals and and attributes that Dembele simply doesn't have.
The only things that Dembele has ahead of Griff is strength and youth, nothing more.

You're anti Griffiths pish got one thread closed, you looking to try again?
Little Norse bridge dwelling type.
See what I mean?

No facts. Just ridiculous claims and insults.

The majority of your posts this month have been aimed at me. Pathetic.
Griffiths has the best goalscoring record since Larsson I think.
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If Dembele stays I'm more than happy with Griffiths being back up - but Griffiths isn't happy with that. His attitude is pish.

If Dembele goes then in the words of Brendan Rodgers... another striker must come in.

And it'll be someone who's brought in to be first choice I imagine.
To be honest I wouldn’t want any of our players to be happy about not being first pick.
Theres being happy and theres being disruptive.

When you're arguing with the manager because you've been subbed that is a totally different story. Or jumping on twitter to indirectly take digs at your team mate etc.
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.

Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.

But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Nobody else pretends Boyata is the best centre half we've had since Billy McNeill though.

The majority of the discussion about Griffiths usually centres around some insane praise from one of his followers. The minute someone mentions a deficiency in his game they get abused and their card is marked in every thread on the board. The people who love him then dig themselves into so many different holes trying to convince themselves he's good enough to play vs Zenit whilst greeting on the transfer window thread about how we aren't strengthening the team. :doh:
The majority of the discussion on here tonight was about how he turned the game around go back to the beginning if you don’t believe me , you are in a very small minority who started being negative for no other reason than to derail the praise he was getting . It’s so transparent you hate him , it’s an obsession with you. I’m out now as this will only end up the way you want it to another closed Griffiths thread
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Of course we will need another striker I'd Dembele leaves, I think that would go without saying. We'll only have two left and one is a Loanee.

You do go on a bit.
Two good strikers would be enough to see us to the end of the season. We need a number 1 and we need him to get a long run of games as the constant chopping and changing is hurting the team.

I dont think Rodgers thinks Griffiths is good enough. He's full of praise for Edouard but deep down he knows he isn't Dembele.
Players do get injured, I'm tired of reading that two Strikers is enough. The wingers folk want to be auxiliary forwards have got their own game in need of improvement right now never mind being reallocated whenever a Striker goes down.

Besides, our lone Striker model is in need of some freshening up, it has been sussed by sides we play up to six times a season and we need an option to our forward play, particularly with no Tom and no Paddy. If you want to play two up front, you're going to need Centre Forwards.
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The reaction to this guy is just bizarre. How many of our players are not “top class” or “Champions League class”? I’d venture to say the very vast majority of them. But no one goes onto those players’ threads after a match winning contribution to let everyone know that, hey, see this guy who plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premiership and cost two bob, he’s actually got some flaws in his game and I’m going to tell you all about them for the millionth time.

Yes, he’s very far from perfect. Yes, his hold up play and decision making could be better. And yes, he misses too many one-one-ones.

But he makes things happen and he scores goals. He was the difference today as he has been many many times before for us (including, by the way, in Europe).
Nobody else pretends Boyata is the best centre half we've had since Billy McNeill though.

The majority of the discussion about Griffiths usually centres around some insane praise from one of his followers. The minute someone mentions a deficiency in his game they get abused and their card is marked in every thread on the board. The people who love him then dig themselves into so many different holes trying to convince themselves he's good enough to play vs Zenit whilst greeting on the transfer window thread about how we aren't strengthening the team. :doh:
“Followers”. :lol: Do you mean “Celtic supporters”?

Thinking Boyata is the best defender we’ve had since McNeill is mental and no one thinks it. Some people think Griffiths is our best striker since Henrik. I don’t agree and I assume they aren’t counting Sutton and Hartson for some reason (possibly because they played with Henrik?). But if you look at the other tenable options - Hooper, JVoH, McDonald and very brief spells from each of Bellamy and Keane - it's not a totally wild opinion. Boyata and Billy ain’t quite the same.
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Two good strikers would be enough to see us to the end of the season. We need a number 1 and we need him to get a long run of games as the constant chopping and changing is hurting the team.

I dont think Rodgers thinks Griffiths is good enough. He's full of praise for Edouard but deep down he knows he isn't Dembele.
Players do get injured, I'm tired of reading that two Strikers is enough. The wingers folk want to be auxiliary forwards have got their own game in need of improvement right now never mind being reallocated whenever a Striker goes down.
What other team has 3 strikers sharing game time?

It doesnt happen.

If we have three strikers fighting it out for one place then one of them needs to know that the likelihood is he isn't going to start many games - if any at all.
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