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Leigh Griffiths; in talks to extend contract
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Topic Started: 23 Jan 2018, 10:49 PM (70,057 Views)
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24 Jan 2018, 12:02 AM
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All the players were pish against Hearts
Yes I know but I’m in the Leigh Griffiths thread where someone said we’d beat the Huns 3 or 4-0 if he played. Would have been 2.0 if hestatrted that game
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24 Jan 2018, 12:03 AM
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I love this 'next level' patter. What would that be ?
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24 Jan 2018, 12:03 AM
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Yes I know but I’m in the Leigh Griffiths thread where someone said we’d beat the Huns 3 or 4-0 if he played.
Would have been 2.0 if hestatrted that game
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24 Jan 2018, 12:04 AM
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All the players were pish against Hearts
Yes I know but I’m in the Leigh Griffiths thread where someone said we’d beat the Huns 3 or 4-0 if he played. Bad/shock results happen all the time, Messi was playing when we beat Barca 2-1. Means nowt
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24 Jan 2018, 12:04 AM
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Personally, no I don't and I agree with you on that. It's the fact that you're saying people can't understand big pictures like it's some sort of Maths puzzle that you've only worked out and people are stupid. People don't agree with you. That doesn't mean they struggle with the picture.
If thats how you took it then fair enough but it wasn't how it was meant to be taken. I was meaning that its easy to get caught up in the moment because he's scored the winner. If you look at his performance without any bias you'll see all of the flaws in his game were on show tonight (as well as the good). Who gives two flying effs. We won the game so why make yerself look bitter about it by focusing on what he didn't do rather than what he did.
These types of arguments hold more water if the misses actually cost us. Mental.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:04 AM
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Do you think he's good enough to lead the line for us and take us to the next level? Also - considering every big game we play he's on the bench I'd say the gaffer agrees.  Not one player in our team is good enough at the moment to take us to the next level. Did you miss our CL campaign this year  Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that?
We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:05 AM
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 "not objective" For the love of the wee man, please disabuse me of the nagging fear that you are being serious.
Of course I am. I can see his good and bad points. But he won us the game so that is all that matters and yeez were booing him coz you hate him, you cried when he scored and he pumped her bird so GIRFUY and other quality Patter. The previous thread got locked because the people who can’t see past him can’t take criticism of him. He’s a very good SPFL striker. How many times do I have to say it? He’s not a fantastic player or a top quality striker. I’ve seen plenty at Celtic. He isn’t in that league. I've seen them all since Charlie Nicholas. Griff is 2nd only to Larsson. And like Larsson he shows the class to tuck away a goal after missing a chance. How many goals did Leigh Griffiths score the season before last? The guy is pure quality.
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Of course I am. I can see his good and bad points. But he won us the game so that is all that matters and yeez were booing him coz you hate him, you cried when he scored and he pumped her bird so GIRFUY and other quality Patter. The previous thread got locked because the people who can’t see past him can’t take criticism of him. He’s a very good SPFL striker. How many times do I have to say it? He’s not a fantastic player or a top quality striker. I’ve seen plenty at Celtic. He isn’t in that league.
I've seen them all since Charlie Nicholas. Griff is 2nd only to Larsson. And like Larsson he shows the class to tuck away a goal after missing a chance. How many goals did Leigh Griffiths score the season before last? The guy is pure quality. Wow.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:06 AM
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 Not one player in our team is good enough at the moment to take us to the next level. Did you miss our CL campaign this year 
Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that? We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them. 4 or 5? I think we have two players who will be good enough.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:06 AM
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Personally, no I don't and I agree with you on that. It's the fact that you're saying people can't understand big pictures like it's some sort of Maths puzzle that you've only worked out and people are stupid. People don't agree with you. That doesn't mean they struggle with the picture.
If thats how you took it then fair enough but it wasn't how it was meant to be taken. I was meaning that its easy to get caught up in the moment because he's scored the winner. If you look at his performance without any bias you'll see all of the flaws in his game were on show tonight (as well as the good). Tonight was typical griffiths.
Nothing tonight showed me anything that I didn't know. I do think we're a bigger threat when he plays though.
You always think he can get you something from nothing. And I agree with all the faults Remy and you have brought up.
Tonight he won us the game. He's done that consistently since we had him here. And we should be glad of it.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:06 AM
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Of course I am. I can see his good and bad points. But he won us the game so that is all that matters and yeez were booing him coz you hate him, you cried when he scored and he pumped her bird so GIRFUY and other quality Patter. The previous thread got locked because the people who can’t see past him can’t take criticism of him. He’s a very good SPFL striker. How many times do I have to say it? He’s not a fantastic player or a top quality striker. I’ve seen plenty at Celtic. He isn’t in that league.
I've seen them all since Charlie Nicholas. Griff is 2nd only to Larsson. And like Larsson he shows the class to tuck away a goal after missing a chance. How many goals did Leigh Griffiths score the season before last? The guy is pure quality. Fecking hell.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:06 AM
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If thats how you took it then fair enough but it wasn't how it was meant to be taken. I was meaning that its easy to get caught up in the moment because he's scored the winner. If you look at his performance without any bias you'll see all of the flaws in his game were on show tonight (as well as the good).
Who gives two flying effs. We won the game so why make yerself look bitter about it by focusing on what he didn't do rather than what he did. These types of arguments hold more water if the misses actually cost us. Mental. He’s a wum mate.
Aye ok, he came on, made the difference and scored the winner.
BUT, let’s focus on the negatives.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:07 AM
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 Not one player in our team is good enough at the moment to take us to the next level. Did you miss our CL campaign this year 
Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that? We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them. Never met a real life person who feels like this about Griff.
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Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that? We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them.
4 or 5? I think we have two players who will be good enough. Tierney, Brown, Ntcham and Dembele are all good enough IMO.
Roberts/Sinclair/Simunovic could be in the right teams.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:08 AM
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 Not one player in our team is good enough at the moment to take us to the next level. Did you miss our CL campaign this year 
Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that? We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them. Do you just pick fights? To compete at last 16 of the CL, we need to either get lucky or find a huge wad of cash to buy a lot better players than we can afford.
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Of course I am. I can see his good and bad points. But he won us the game so that is all that matters and yeez were booing him coz you hate him, you cried when he scored and he pumped her bird so GIRFUY and other quality Patter. The previous thread got locked because the people who can’t see past him can’t take criticism of him. He’s a very good SPFL striker. How many times do I have to say it? He’s not a fantastic player or a top quality striker. I’ve seen plenty at Celtic. He isn’t in that league.
I've seen them all since Charlie Nicholas. Griff is 2nd only to Larsson. And like Larsson he shows the class to tuck away a goal after missing a chance. How many goals did Leigh Griffiths score the season before last? The guy is pure quality. Second only to Larsson??
FFS I’m out.
You’ve proved my point about objectivity.
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The remarkable thing is, Griffiths is the only player alongside Rogic and Roberts who is technically adept enough to bang them in from crazy angles. You don't shoot you don't score.  He's the only striker we have who us capable from outside the 18 yards box.
He's not always going to score from those crazy angles and that's the issue, misses a chance like the 1 v 1 tonight and he goes on a shooting spree hoping for the best most of the time. His hoping for the best has him averaging over a goal every two games in his career.
I'm sure when he hits the century for Celtic, he'll have done so by missing many more than he scores.
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24 Jan 2018, 12:09 AM
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 Not one player in our team is good enough at the moment to take us to the next level. Did you miss our CL campaign this year 
Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that? We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them. Aye coz am on the board and control the purse strings More than happy with a 30-40 goals a season player ta.
So other players would benefit from better players beside them but Griffiths wouldnt? How does that work? Let's say we get a brilliant playmaker in that creates a lot of chances. That no gonna benefit a natural finisher?
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4 or 5? I think we have two players who will be good enough.
Tierney, Brown, Ntcham and Dembele are all good enough IMO. Roberts/Sinclair/Simunovic could be in the right teams. Tierney and Ntcham will be, definitely. Brown I think is probably done at that level. Dembele looks like he won’t be here much longer sadly.
Sinclair and Roberts definitely have ability. Simunovic, unconvinced.
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Nah, I seen it. Thats exactly my point. Unless you are happy to settle for that? We have 4-5 players in our team who could be very very good if they had the right players beside him that would give us a chance of qualifying for the last 16. I dont think Griffiths is one of them.
Do you just pick fights? To compete at last 16 of the CL, we need to either get lucky or find a huge wad of cash to buy a lot better players than we can afford. Someone mentioned me on here and then I gave my opinion - praising Griffiths and talking about the stuff I think he needs to improve on. Been backed up by various other posters.
The same people on here dishing out insults etc because they know they can't back up what they are saying and it turns into this. Every day someone is referencing me in a different thread for either a) supporting Dembele or b) thinking that Griffiths isn't good enough to lead the line for Celtic. Its pathetic.
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