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| The "Where should I put this?" Thread;; Strange stories from the crazy world of football. | |
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| barrybhoy | 14 May 2018, 09:32 PM Post #8901 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0514/963548-ireland-u17s-beaten-in-controversial-penalty-shootout/ Ireland U-17s undone in penalty shootout when their keeper is sent off, for a 2nd bookable offence, the offence being of course he moved off his line too early. Ridiculous to say the least. 99.9999% of keepers do what he did, including the Dutch keeper. Crock of shampoo, any ref who did in the real WC this summer will have his baws toed big time. |
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| KrnyBhoy | 14 May 2018, 09:40 PM Post #8902 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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One of the many reasons refs deserve all the abuse they recieve when they make a shampooe decision. Feck this respect the referees and bending over for them like rugby players. |
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| san meegs | 14 May 2018, 09:49 PM Post #8903 |
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The King ( ) and MON confirmed as ITV pundits for the World Cup. Gary Neville doing it too which should be decent. https://twitter.com/itvfootball/status/996027080860151813?s=21 |
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| tarff26 | 14 May 2018, 09:54 PM Post #8904 |
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Call it what it is
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That seems to be the rules, though. If the keeper is off his line, which the Irish keeper certainly looked to be, then it’s a booking and a retake. The issue is consistency in applying these rules. |
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| Quemelachupen | 14 May 2018, 10:02 PM Post #8905 |
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First team training
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Gamboa in the Costa Rica world cup squad. |
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| KrnyBhoy | 14 May 2018, 10:36 PM Post #8906 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Just seen that myself. Point still stands though eff refs for not booking every other keeper
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| The Notorious Larry Duff | 14 May 2018, 11:24 PM Post #8907 |
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First-team captain
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It takes a certain type of bastard to make a decision like that. Literally ruined a kids dreams over something that iv'e never heard of as being a yellow card offence out of pure spite. And he barely came off his line! He's probably a traffic warden by day. |
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| Quiet Assasin | 15 May 2018, 12:21 AM Post #8908 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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Bring him home |
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| Gunner | 15 May 2018, 09:59 AM Post #8909 |
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I'll play anywhere, as long as I get a game!
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The refs in between a rock and a hard place here. By the letter of the law, it's the right decision. I accept its ultra harsh, but with so much riding on the game - who is he to determine which laws he enforces and which he doesn't. Does he: a) do nothing, and allow the save to stand whilst the team who have missed are unjustly out because of a penalty that was saved by a keeper off his line too soon? Would the other team kick off in the same way many have had in defence of the Irish keeper because the ref should have spotted that he was off his line and ordered a re-take? b) order a retake due to the keeper being off his line and not give the goalkeeper a second caution - that will then be questioned by the other team and the football authorities as to why a second yellow wasn't issues as the infringement by the keeper leaves no room for doubt over the fact a yellow should have been issued? As many have said, it's harsh.... particularly magnified by the importance of the game and the time that the offence occurred (during a shoot out). |
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| greenjedi | 15 May 2018, 10:04 AM Post #8910 |
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Jedi Master
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He didn't book the other goalie for leaving his line though |
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| Rosco67 | 15 May 2018, 10:04 AM Post #8911 |
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We're here to eff shampoo up!
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Think option B is fair enough. Advantage to the the penalty taker with a retake after he has missed, and disadvantages the keeper who has made the save. Keepers are off their lines at penalties 99 times out of 100.
Edited by Rosco67, 15 May 2018, 10:05 AM.
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| Forza | 15 May 2018, 10:38 AM Post #8912 |
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Considering retirement
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Seen a few retakes caused by a keeper infringing. Don't think I've ever seen someone given a yellow for it though. It seems to be made worse by the fact that when the penalty is being hit, the keeper's foot is still actually touching the line. Although his momentum does end up taking him quite far off it for the evntual save. This could do with being cleared up a bit. Goalies step forward all the time. Lewis did it for the Sheep at Pittodrie the other week against Hibs and got away with it when saving a penalty. It must be close to impossible to expect a goalkeeper to keep his body on the line during a penalty. |
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| Gunner | 15 May 2018, 01:13 PM Post #8913 |
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I'll play anywhere, as long as I get a game!
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I get that. But there are certain fouls that have pre-determined punishments... i.e a foul which is holding/pulling a jersey back from a player running away from you carries a yellow card. A goalkeeper, coming off his line early AND saving the penalty - is a yellow card and retake. - if the ref has penalised the keeper for coming off his line early AND saving the penalty - he should always be issuing a yellow card. |
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| Gunner | 15 May 2018, 01:20 PM Post #8914 |
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I'll play anywhere, as long as I get a game!
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Did ireland score their penalty into him though? (I have only seen the 1 clip of the irish keepers yellow) - if they did, it becomes irrelevant if the goalie was off his line early. FWIW The referee's decision is affected by the penalty being scored: https://imgur.com/a/zBMCZiv That image will show you the table. Sadly, the referee has 100% got the decision correct. |
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| littlegmbhoy | 15 May 2018, 02:37 PM Post #8915 |
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He surely is going to get jail time now? He has already been tagged ffs Seems like a total bam the amount of trouble he gets into....one of those guys that just seems to cause trouble wherever he goes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-44124706 Edited by littlegmbhoy, 15 May 2018, 02:38 PM.
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| greenjedi | 15 May 2018, 02:42 PM Post #8916 |
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You can still be booked if you commit a foul and the ref gives the advantage |
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| Masterplanner | 15 May 2018, 02:43 PM Post #8917 |
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Occasional Substitute
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I wonder what happens if the keeper comes off line early to lets say his RHS and the pen taker puts the ball well wide to the opposite side? |
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| ronny_is_not_da_man | 15 May 2018, 02:43 PM Post #8918 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Don't think I have ever seen a ref book a keeper for that
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| Luca | 15 May 2018, 02:51 PM Post #8919 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Has he been in trouble before? I had no idea he was a wild yin.
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| celticsean | 15 May 2018, 02:54 PM Post #8920 |
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... part of the original cast ...
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/may/15/swansea-could-saved-themselves-premier-league-possession?CMP=share_btn_tw Interesting piece |
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