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The "Where should I put this?" Thread;; Strange stories from the crazy world of football.
Topic Started: 25 Sep 2012, 05:56 PM (237,998 Views)
Lobey Dosser
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30 Oct 2017, 08:43 PM
fatboab
30 Oct 2017, 08:37 PM
I hear Rod Petrie, not content with turning his back on a Judicial Revue, has plans when he’s elected President of the SFA to introduce a play off for the SPL title involving the four top teams. He wants to end Celtic’s dominance and will push this agenda hard. Celtic are aware, and have acted accordingly.
One to watch closely.
The laughing stock of World football that's what that will do to our game. :cuckoo:
We already are , Regan and Doncaster have seen to that.

Petrie is of the same ilk.
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30 Oct 2017, 10:12 PM
Bobby Petta
30 Oct 2017, 09:58 PM
I've got no problem with that kind of system, I go through stages of following South American football leagues and they tend to use those type of system with 2 championships per year. More teams have a chance of winning and it can be very exciting.

But I don't believe anyone in the SFA is angling to make that change now while we're chasing 10 in a row. It would be beyond parody.
I've always regarded the convoluted nature of some South American leagues as a joke. Totally devalues the championship.
MLS is weird. You still get a trophy for finishing top of your league- supporters shield but the media don't really care about it as the play off winners are seen as the champion.

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Vinnie Bhoy
30 Oct 2017, 10:22 PM
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30 Oct 2017, 10:12 PM
Bobby Petta
30 Oct 2017, 09:58 PM
I've got no problem with that kind of system, I go through stages of following South American football leagues and they tend to use those type of system with 2 championships per year. More teams have a chance of winning and it can be very exciting.

But I don't believe anyone in the SFA is angling to make that change now while we're chasing 10 in a row. It would be beyond parody.
I've always regarded the convoluted nature of some South American leagues as a joke. Totally devalues the championship.
MLS is weird. You still get a trophy for finishing top of your league- supporters shield but the media don't really care about it as the play off winners are seen as the champion.

It's not so weird really. It echoes all the major US sports.
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MLS is weird. You still get a trophy for finishing top of your league- supporters shield but the media don't really care about it as the play off winners are seen as the champion.

It's not so weird really. It echoes all the major US sports.
In comparison to world football I mean. I like it to be fair, means everyone has a chance at winning it unless your truly rotten.
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The two 'fan' graphics, either side of the star (which is great) look naff.
Would have hoped the club could have came up with a better tribute to the FIFA award.
Looks cheap and pish.
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The biggest difficulty with Murrayfield will be 60,000+ punters travelling if it's us and the Sevs and avoiding trouble
the extra 6k seats aside. does murryfield have more or less corporate facilities than CP? thats where the cash is these days.
67,500 as I recall, closer to 15k more seats
Also enough capacity to apply for the champions league final again (requires “average” of 70k, but most recent stadium awarded is 60k)
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A schoolboy footballer is making regular 320-mile round trips from his home in the Western Isles to play for Greenock Morton FC's under-11s.
Matthew Davidson, 10, travels from the Isle of Barra for training sessions and matches with the Scottish Championship club as often as twice a week.
The midfielder played for Barra's Castlebay Community School before being spotted at a trials session.
Airline Loganair is helping Matthew with his travel arrangements.
Loganair operates flights from Barra's beach runway to Glasgow, from where Matthew can travel to Greenock.
Greenock Morton chief executive Warren Hawke said: "In recent years we have seen a number of players, such as Rothesay's Jim McAlister and Dunoon's Lewis Strapp, overcome geographic challenges to become professional footballers at Greenock Morton.
"None of those were quite on the same scale as young Matthew Davidson though, who travels all the way from his home on the Isle of Barra in the Outer Hebrides to train and turn out for our academy's under-11s side."


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Academies down here have a ruling to stop that sort of travel. Under 12's must live within an hour's travelling distance from the club, or 90 minutes for players aged 13-16.

Surely that only applies to kids who are passing a club on their way, eg driving last Bolton to play for Liverpool or something who else can the boy play for?
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fatboab
30 Oct 2017, 08:37 PM
I hear Rod Petrie, not content with turning his back on a Judicial Revue, has plans when he’s elected President of the SFA to introduce a play off for the SPL title involving the four top teams. He wants to end Celtic’s dominance and will push this agenda hard. Celtic are aware, and have acted accordingly.
One to watch closely.
As already said most US sports work this way
Also every Australian one is the same including soccer
The winner of the initial ladder is now as the minor championship then the grand final winner (after playoffs) is considered the champion
In aussie rules the playoffs are very popular and not a straight forward knockout
Almost half the teams qualify (8 of 18)
The top 4 teams get a second chance,
1st v 4th
2nd v 3rd
5th v 8th, or
6th v 7th
Winner of the first two matches skips the next round
The Losers play the winner of the bottom two matches
(Loser of the bottom two matches is out)
Next is the semi final (strongest teams have had a weeks rest)
Grand final

Crowds are through the roof (80-100k)
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Why don't we just do what they want to do when kids are learning the game.

Lets not keep score.

Everyone gets on the park to play at sometime

They all swap positions

And at the end of the year everybody gets a trophy.

Feckin mental.

Unless you're cheating, the best team wins the league. You don't jockey for position then play off.

assholes. (Petrie etc not you guys) :)
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TheScotsman
31 Oct 2017, 07:45 AM
fatboab
30 Oct 2017, 08:37 PM
I hear Rod Petrie, not content with turning his back on a Judicial Revue, has plans when he’s elected President of the SFA to introduce a play off for the SPL title involving the four top teams. He wants to end Celtic’s dominance and will push this agenda hard. Celtic are aware, and have acted accordingly.
One to watch closely.
As already said most US sports work this way
Also every Australian one is the same including soccer
The winner of the initial ladder is now as the minor championship then the grand final winner (after playoffs) is considered the champion
In aussie rules the playoffs are very popular and not a straight forward knockout
Almost half the teams qualify (8 of 18)
The top 4 teams get a second chance,
1st v 4th
2nd v 3rd
5th v 8th, or
6th v 7th
Winner of the first two matches skips the next round
The Losers play the winner of the bottom two matches
(Loser of the bottom two matches is out)
Next is the semi final (strongest teams have had a weeks rest)
Grand final

Crowds are through the roof (80-100k)
In England, the rugby union championship did this for years. Recently, Bristol finished top of the league on a number of occasions but lost out in two-legged finals. (5 times in 7 seasons). Took them years to get back to the Premiership. There was widespread condemnation as to how a team who had finished top fairly then lost out to the lottery of a play off. Common sense prevailed and they scrapped it for this season.
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dtic
31 Oct 2017, 08:32 AM
TheScotsman
31 Oct 2017, 07:45 AM
fatboab
30 Oct 2017, 08:37 PM
I hear Rod Petrie, not content with turning his back on a Judicial Revue, has plans when he’s elected President of the SFA to introduce a play off for the SPL title involving the four top teams. He wants to end Celtic’s dominance and will push this agenda hard. Celtic are aware, and have acted accordingly.
One to watch closely.
As already said most US sports work this way
Also every Australian one is the same including soccer
The winner of the initial ladder is now as the minor championship then the grand final winner (after playoffs) is considered the champion
In aussie rules the playoffs are very popular and not a straight forward knockout
Almost half the teams qualify (8 of 18)
The top 4 teams get a second chance,
1st v 4th
2nd v 3rd
5th v 8th, or
6th v 7th
Winner of the first two matches skips the next round
The Losers play the winner of the bottom two matches
(Loser of the bottom two matches is out)
Next is the semi final (strongest teams have had a weeks rest)
Grand final

Crowds are through the roof (80-100k)
In England, the rugby union championship did this for years. Recently, Bristol finished top of the league on a number of occasions but lost out in two-legged finals. (5 times in 7 seasons). Took them years to get back to the Premiership. There was widespread condemnation as to how a team who had finished top fairly then lost out to the lottery of a play off. Common sense prevailed and they scrapped it for this season.
They do it in Rugby League Super League and Indian IPL cricket in fact most Twenty20 leagues round the world , the "league" winner usually has an advantage of home ties or extra life if they get beat. I guess it needs a big mindset change where everyone is just jockeying for position until the playoffs.
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Rugby Union, MLS, South America! Anything to escape having the normal 16-18 team League almost all of our contemporaries employ, we've been brainwashed over the years. Can't we just try and do what everyone else is doing rather than look for some kooky alternative?

Let's get some of our bigger clubs back in the top flight again, allow them space to breath and give kids the opportunity to develop. No offence to the smaller teams who do very well but it's been dogfight time already in October and a third of the Managers have been bulleted. We are learning nothing playing against these sides up to four times a season, often more with Cups and the atrocious top six split has to go too, lets get back to normality and play each other twice.
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31 Oct 2017, 09:20 AM
Rugby Union, MLS, South America! Anything to escape having the normal 16-18 team League almost all of our contemporaries employ, we've been brainwashed over the years. Can't we just try and do what everyone else is doing rather than look for some kooky alternative?

Let's get some of our bigger clubs back in the top flight again, allow them space to breath and give kids the opportunity to develop. No offence to the smaller teams who do very well but it's been dogfight time already in October and a third of the Managers have been bulleted. We are learning nothing playing against these sides up to four times a season, often more with Cups and the atrocious top six split has to go too, lets get back to normality and play each other twice.
I totally agree but dickhead chairmen like Petrie will neve4 vote for that as it means they won’t get to play us and sevco three or four times per season.

Plus Sky would reduce their offer if not getting four Glasgow derbies.

We are in a rut and Christ knows how it will get resolved.
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31 Oct 2017, 09:20 AM
Rugby Union, MLS, South America! Anything to escape having the normal 16-18 team League almost all of our contemporaries employ, we've been brainwashed over the years. Can't we just try and do what everyone else is doing rather than look for some kooky alternative?

Let's get some of our bigger clubs back in the top flight again, allow them space to breath and give kids the opportunity to develop. No offence to the smaller teams who do very well but it's been dogfight time already in October and a third of the Managers have been bulleted. We are learning nothing playing against these sides up to four times a season, often more with Cups and the atrocious top six split has to go too, lets get back to normality and play each other twice.
If you learn nothing playing mediocre teams 4 times you will learn even less playing lots of even worse teams two times ? I think one of the reasons it changed away back in the 70's was the number of meaningless games for mid table teams and unexciting games for top teams. In saying that it's worth a go for a few years as any change would bring some sort of freshness for a while.
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Pussyfoot
31 Oct 2017, 09:20 AM
Rugby Union, MLS, South America! Anything to escape having the normal 16-18 team League almost all of our contemporaries employ, we've been brainwashed over the years. Can't we just try and do what everyone else is doing rather than look for some kooky alternative?

Let's get some of our bigger clubs back in the top flight again, allow them space to breath and give kids the opportunity to develop. No offence to the smaller teams who do very well but it's been dogfight time already in October and a third of the Managers have been bulleted. We are learning nothing playing against these sides up to four times a season, often more with Cups and the atrocious top six split has to go too, lets get back to normality and play each other twice.
If you learn nothing playing mediocre teams 4 times you will learn even less playing lots of even worse teams two times ? I think one of the reasons it changed away back in the 70's was the number of meaningless games for mid table teams and unexciting games for top teams. In saying that it's worth a go for a few years as any change would bring some sort of freshness for a while.
It's worth a go? It's just normal European fare, it's what people do. I'd rather be playing Dunfermline, StvMirren, United and co. twice than Partick four times. The poorer teams argument doesn't wash as a normalized division will see completely different outcomes, tactics and developments.

If we were qualifying for world cups and our club sides could get past the prelim stages in Europe folk would be copying us rather than Scotland being the testing ground for already failed experiments
Edited by Pussyfoot, 31 Oct 2017, 09:43 AM.
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Danny Murphy voicing concerns about the English u17 players. I thought the exact same thing as soon as I saw them celebrating. Must be getting curmudgeonly in my dotage but what happened to 'the badge on the front is more important than the name on the back?'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41791255
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I agree we need to freshen it up . I like up league to 14 teams . So two more decent teams . Split after played everyone home and away . So 26 games. Then top seven play each other another two times. So 12 games for total of 38. Added bonus after split none of possibility of playing someone away three times and one team gets a rest week every six games
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Petrie has to decide if he wants to compete with Celtic, or just milk us.

The best way to make the league competitive is to go back to playing each other twice a year.
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31 Oct 2017, 09:54 AM
Danny Murphy voicing concerns about the English u17 players. I thought the exact same thing as soon as I saw them celebrating. Must be getting curmudgeonly in my dotage but what happened to 'the badge on the front is more important than the name on the back?'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41791255
Danny Murphy is a bawsack
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