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The "Where should I put this?" Thread;; Strange stories from the crazy world of football.
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31 Jul 2016, 09:48 AM
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BBC are really hammering home the 1966 Cup win. It's been going on all week and they found the radio commentary, by Brian Moore.
I wonder how much time will be devoted to us winning the Big Cup, by the BBC, with us being the firstl British team to do so.
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31 Jul 2016, 09:57 AM
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BBC are really hammering home the 1966 Cup win. It's been going on all week and they found the radio commentary, by Brian Moore. I wonder how much time will be devoted to us winning the Big Cup, by the BBC, with us being the firstl British team to do so. The big cup win is of interest to a small section of the viewers. As national broadcasters the BBC have a responsibility to cover the world cup anniversary wall to wall as it is of interest to the whole nation of eh, Britain
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31 Jul 2016, 10:33 AM
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Some new rules changes to come into force for the new season. That's all well and good but the managers are not meeting the referees to discuss these new rules until August 8th, two days after the SPFL has started and after the BetFred first round of the cup has finished, where the new rules have already been used. Another example of perfect planning and introduction by the SFA / SPFL chiefs.
Moira Gordon: Football’s rules must be applied consistently
Spoiler: click to toggle A new season but the same old gripes. Peter Houston has already signed up for referee watch. The new league campaign hasn’t even kicked off and already the Falkirk manager is miffed. He claims he will be closely monitoring the decisions referees make with regards to tugging shirts and holding opponents in the box. Maybe we all should. Falkirk conceded three penalties in one game this week, two of them in that category. By the letter of the law, referee Bobby Madden was possibly correct but Houston’s frustration is understandable. As he says, that nonsense goes on in every game but how many penalties are awarded? Not enough to eradicate the problem and certainly not enough to justify two in one game. Not unless it is part of the new directives and not unless it is going to be consistently applied in every game, by every referee, every week. That, he says, would be fine by him, but he doubts that. So do I. This year, much has been made of the latest revamp of the football rule book, which has been carried out over the past 18 months and was ratified and implemented in time for this summer’s European Championships. The fact is some people will notice changes and others, who only had a fleeting familiarity with the rules anyway, will carry on bawling and shouting about things that have lapsed or never applied to begin with. But one thing players, managers and fans recognise is inconsistency and it makes their blood boil. Often it is explained away as simply a different interpretation of the laws but even the people who were responsible for formulating the revised tome are fed up with that excuse. According to those involved in the process, the aim was to “uncomplicate” matters and encourage a more commonsense approach. OK, I can hear some guffawing at the back, those who feel that is an alien concept to the people who boss the game, but they have made more than 95 alterations, they chopped 10,000 words from the meaty 22,000-word Laws of the Game document and they say that the hope is that fewer incidents will now be left open to interpretation. Houston said he wasn’t aware of any new directives relating to the farcical all-in-wrestling that occurs in the box at set pieces these days, but if there is then he and the rest of the Central Belt-based managers won’t know about then until 8 August when they are scheduled to meet referees to discuss matters. Hardly the best timing. That will be at least two days after the leagues start back, a fortnight after his players were sent packing and more than a week after the League Cup group matches were concluded! And the officials wonder why people get frustrated. Heralded changes include not having to play the ball forward from kick-off and players no longer having to leave the field for treatment if they have been injured in a clash that saw an opponent shown either a yellow or red card. Some incidents will now lead to a free-kick or a penalty rather than a drop ball, while players who leave the field of play to swap a blood-stained shirt or change boots no longer have to wait for play to halt before returning to the action. It is all supposed to make things fairer, which is great. But while fair is to be celebrated, consistent would be even better and would help mend the tarnished relationships between po-faced, finger-wagging officialdom and the people who play, coach and watch the game and who have little of any positivity to say about the men and women in black. Part of that is pure pantomime, the referee giving irate fans an easy scapegoat, or teams a convenient smokescreen, and some of it is a lazy ignorance of the laws but that is not all it is. People would like referees to explain their decisions – Houston said there was no point in even trying to seek an audience – but most of all players, managers and fans want to see the same rules applied regardless of the team, the occasion, or area of the pitch and they want to see them applied by all officials every week, not just at the start of the season or the start of a tournament, when they are trying to make a statement. So if referees have declared war on the shirt-pulling and the jostling, great. As someone who gets more than a tad annoyed at players who no longer even make a pretence of watching the ball coming in, no longer bother with sneakiness and are arrogantly and recklessly blatant in their determination to bear hug their opposite number into submission, I salute them but, please, make sure the message is universal. While they are at it. Wage war on the diving, implement the ruling that allows them to get tougher on moaners and wannabe refs who surround them and throw temper tantrums and, for goodness sake, please stop defenders from “seeing the ball out” from about 20 yards out. It is getting silly and that kind of obstruction would be punished in the middle of the park, why not at the byeline? It is all about consistency. Yes, the card count would be astronomical in the first few weeks and Houston’s men wouldn’t be the only ones conceding multiple penalties but the smart ones would get the message pretty sharpish and common sense would prevail. And if referees were consistent then no one could complain. Then, once we tackle all those issues, we just need to get the officials to show some common sense when it comes to celebrations. If momentum carries a player off the field of play, so be it. Let them have their moment, don’t be a killjoy. And I’m still at a loss to understand why a player whipping off his shirt is reason for admonition or why he is castigated and held responsible for the behaviour of morons, who have been dishing it out but can’t take it back, if he puts his finger to his lip. Banish them, not the banter and the emotion The game is there to entertain, it is passionate and it should be fun. The players have a part to play in that, so too do the fans, but referees have a massive role. Houston says he will be watching them and he won’t be the only one. The new season is back and hopefully the new directives extol consistency and include letting the football take centre stage. That would be a real common sense approach. http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/moira-gordon-football-s-rules-must-be-applied-consistently-1-4190407
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31 Jul 2016, 03:35 PM
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A spray tanned Furby, eating KFC and screaming at a Gold Star family
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Wild prediction time... Leicester will be relegated this season.
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31 Jul 2016, 03:38 PM
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Just happened across a short article in Daily R*c*rd article, 30 JUL 2016 by DARREN COONEY. Reporting on events from yesterday in Dublin, the following phrases appear: “A total and utter affront… Ridiculous and revolting… Disgraceful… Evil. Truly evil…” Have ISIS struck in Dublin and it escaped the notice of the rest of the civilised world? Has there been an Orange parade through the streets of teh Irish capital? West of Scotland fans urinating on religious edifices? Nope! Wait for it… … fitba fans wearing half n half Celtic and Barcelona tops !!! Jesus wept!!! And to think their are still folk who buy these toilet rolls…
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31 Jul 2016, 04:09 PM
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Just happened across a short article in Daily R*c*rd article, 30 JUL 2016 by DARREN COONEY. Reporting on events from yesterday in Dublin, the following phrases appear: “A total and utter affront… Ridiculous and revolting… Disgraceful… Evil. Truly evil…” Have ISIS struck in Dublin and it escaped the notice of the rest of the civilised world? Has there been an Orange parade through the streets of teh Irish capital? West of Scotland fans urinating on religious edifices? Nope! Wait for it… … fitba fans wearing half n half Celtic and Barcelona tops !!! Jesus wept!!! And to think their are still folk who buy these toilet rolls… it's even worse repeating their shampoo on here.
people like me who don't buy or click links to these 'toilet rolls' are being told by people like you what they're saying.
try taking heed of your own advice and then none of us will have to endure this crap. the less we talk about them the more irrelevant they become.
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31 Jul 2016, 06:28 PM
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- 31 Jul 2016, 03:38 PM
Just happened across a short article in Daily R*c*rd article, 30 JUL 2016 by DARREN COONEY. Reporting on events from yesterday in Dublin, the following phrases appear: “A total and utter affront… Ridiculous and revolting… Disgraceful… Evil. Truly evil…” Have ISIS struck in Dublin and it escaped the notice of the rest of the civilised world? Has there been an Orange parade through the streets of teh Irish capital? West of Scotland fans urinating on religious edifices? Nope! Wait for it… … fitba fans wearing half n half Celtic and Barcelona tops !!! Jesus wept!!! And to think their are still folk who buy these toilet rolls…
it's even worse repeating their shampoo on here. people like me who don't buy or click links to these 'toilet rolls' are being told by people like you what they're saying. try taking heed of your own advice and then none of us will have to endure this crap. the less we talk about them the more irrelevant they become. Or post them in more than one thread. Again, baffling.
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31 Jul 2016, 09:41 PM
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Watching Coritiba v Flamengo. Kazim is absolute pish.
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1 Aug 2016, 08:58 AM
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Have a speedy recovery Tommy.
Celtic legend Tommy Gemmell in hospital after 12-hour hip break agony
THE 72-year-old Lisbon Lion is believed to have lain injured in his home in Dunblane for 12 hours before he was found and taken to hospital.
Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell fel at hie home and right, in his heyday with Celtic Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell fel at hie home and right, in his heyday with Celtic
LISBON Lion Tommy Gemmell was in hospital last night after breaking his hip.
It’s believed the Celtic hero lay injured for 12 hours before he was found at his home in Dunblane.
The 72-year-old was taken to Forth Valley Royal Hospital in Larbert and is expected to have a scan to see if he needs surgery.
Wife Mary said last night: “Tommy got a scare after a simple accident at home. He lost his footing getting out of a chair and toppled against a coffee table.
“We’ll have to wait and see how serious it is but we know he is in the best hands.”
Gemmell, who was capped 18 times for Scotland, scored in Celtic’s famous European Cup triumph in 1967.
He has suffered from recent health problems and was hospitalised two years ago after falling ill at home.
Celtic fans posted messages of support online. One read: “Tommy has been very frail. He’s a fighter though so please keep him in your prayers.”
Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/celtic-legend-tommy-gemmell-hospital-8536017#FT2vIdCYSG1zMOcZ.99
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1 Aug 2016, 05:45 PM
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Nobby Stiles is very ill at the moment with prostate cancer and dementia.
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1 Aug 2016, 05:48 PM
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- 31 Jul 2016, 03:38 PM
Just happened across a short article in Daily R*c*rd article, 30 JUL 2016 by DARREN COONEY. Reporting on events from yesterday in Dublin, the following phrases appear: “A total and utter affront… Ridiculous and revolting… Disgraceful… Evil. Truly evil…” Have ISIS struck in Dublin and it escaped the notice of the rest of the civilised world? Has there been an Orange parade through the streets of teh Irish capital? West of Scotland fans urinating on religious edifices? Nope! Wait for it… … fitba fans wearing half n half Celtic and Barcelona tops !!! Jesus wept!!! And to think their are still folk who buy these toilet rolls…
it's even worse repeating their shampoo on here. people like me who don't buy or click links to these 'toilet rolls' are being told by people like you what they're saying. try taking heed of your own advice and then none of us will have to endure this crap. the less we talk about them the more irrelevant they become.
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1 Aug 2016, 09:10 PM
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- 31 Jul 2016, 03:38 PM
Just happened across a short article in Daily R*c*rd article, 30 JUL 2016 by DARREN COONEY. Reporting on events from yesterday in Dublin, the following phrases appear: “A total and utter affront… Ridiculous and revolting… Disgraceful… Evil. Truly evil…” Have ISIS struck in Dublin and it escaped the notice of the rest of the civilised world? Has there been an Orange parade through the streets of teh Irish capital? West of Scotland fans urinating on religious edifices? Nope! Wait for it… … fitba fans wearing half n half Celtic and Barcelona tops !!! Jesus wept!!! And to think their are still folk who buy these toilet rolls…
it's even worse repeating their shampoo on here. people like me who don't buy or click links to these 'toilet rolls' are being told by people like you what they're saying. try taking heed of your own advice and then none of us will have to endure this crap. the less we talk about them the more irrelevant they become. So don't read papers, just KDS?
The Cektic View used to be nicknamed 'Pravda' as it just fed people the party linr (not that KDS does that, they even had a media thread to discuss the media) people read papers, talked and listened to others. It's all about points of view and being able to discuss it, even if thst means laughing at the banality of it.
Bit much telling people not to read papers because you don't. Lots of conversations are started in pubs, clubs and company 'did you read about....the other day in the paper?'
Lots of stuff in the papers are crap but for some people it's a way of getting information. Each to their own
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2 Aug 2016, 07:16 AM
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Just the stats mam. This would seem to back up Scott brown on why he sees Aberdeen as our main threat when you look at the statistics from last season.
Nine Scottish football stats and what they tell us about the new season
Spoiler: click to toggle CRAIG FOWLER Craig Fowler has collated nine of the most surprising statistics from the 2015-16 Scottish football season and how they relate to the new season, which begins on Saturday. Celtic had as many 0-0 draws in one year as the previous five combinedIn a season considered so underwhelming it cost head coach Ronny Deila his job, Celtic only lost four league games. What really made the campaign feel like such a slog were the draws, eight of them in total, the second most the club have tallied in a league campaign since the invention of the SPL. The defence was a little bit of an issue, with Celtic leaking in 31 goals (for perspective, they allowed only 42 the previous two seasons combined), but they’ve had more porous years and still won the title. The same goes for the attack. It was not as proficient as some seasons but they’ve been worse. The statistics just sum up how maddening the champions could be. They scored six against Dundee at Celtic Park a week after losing to Aberdeen, but failed to breach Paul Hartley’s men the rest of the season. They hammered eight past Hamilton and could then manage only one goal when the sides met again six weeks later. The St Johnstone defeat made them look as if they’d downed tools, only for a similarly experimental line-up to smash seven past Motherwell. If you were a betting man you’d be better tossing a coin. Those hoping Brendan Rodgers would immediately fix this issue had a rude awakening when Lincoln Red Imps humbled the team in Gibraltar - with Celtic against reverting to Dr Jekyll by rolling past them at Parkhead and getting a credible draw in Astana. That’s not a slight on Rodgers’ credentials. It’s just that the issue with Celtic last season ran deeper than the manager and Rodgers will need to improve the squad before we’ll see these relative ups and downs come to a halt. Aberdeen had the league’s longest winning streak
Celtic’s longest run of victories was only five games. It’s strange to put the word “only” before five consecutive victories, but that’s the nature of judging Celtic in the world of Scottish football. You have to go all the way back to 1995-96 for the last time they failed to win at least six league games in a row (by comparison, in 2011-12, they won 17 league matches on the trot). This left the longest winning streak to be the one Aberdeen put together right out of the gate. The Dons also managed a 12-game unbeaten run later in the season, which is tied with Celtic. The reason Aberdeen finished 15 points adrift in the title race was because of two treacherous periods where their form completely dropped off. They went five games without a win, including four defeats, immediately after their seven-game win-streak to start the season, and lost six of their last eight games. Therefore, you can understand why Aberdeen remain confident in their abilities to mount another challenge despite the presence of Rangers. Cynics would argue it’s a statistical anomaly. They were a team capable of gaining only 71 points and how they were accrued over the course of 38-game season is irrelevant. But optimists could argue they were affected too much by defeats with the increased pressure of battling Celtic, and now they’ve had the opportunity to learn from those mistakes. They’ve also added to their squad without losing any desirable first-team member during the summer. Although, making the leap and taking a title race down to the wire may depend on replacing a player they lost in January. Speaking of whom... Danny Ward was (statistically) the league’s best goalkeeper (credit: @ThomAlexWatt)
You cannot definitively say he was the best. Statistics can only tell you so much. But taking them purely at face value, Ward had the highest save percentage of any ‘keeper in the top flight last season (of those that played at least 10 games). His 75.61 per cent record sat over two per cent higher than the nearest challenger, Celtic’s Craig Gordon. It’s no surprise that the top two goalkeepers came from the champions and runners-up, but Ward was the far busier of the two. Gordon made 2.11 saves a game, among the lowest in the league, while Ward made 2.95, higher than stoppers on struggling sides like Eiji Kawashima and Michael McGovern. Comparing him with deputy Scott Brown, you see a huge difference. After Brown took over when Ward was recalled to Liverpool in January, he made 2.62 saves a game with a percentage of 64.15, a full 11 points fewer than Ward. While such stats should be taken with a pinch of salt as there are many variables to consider, everyone would agree Aberdeen suffered a significant drop off at goalkeeper after Ward left. Signing someone this summer to match his output became priority No.1 to the extent that Aberdeen went out and signed two stoppers to fight it out for the position. Joe Lewis has been entrusted to this point in the Europa League games, but should he fail Neil Alexander’s production last year at Hearts (2.71 saves on a 71.97 per cent) is still an upgrade on Scott Brown. Dundee United used the most players of any team (credit: @SPLStats)
40! Forty players. Dundee United, in the league, last season, used 40 players. No, it still doesn’t make any sense. Well, it does. If you’re struggling at the foot of the table you begin to get desperate. These players aren’t good enough, get another one in. This manager isn’t good enough, get another one in. Sometimes it works (Ross County saved themselves the season prior on this very strategy) and sometimes it doesn’t (er, Dundee United). Celtic were next in line at 36 players. Though that number was bloated by struggles of their own, it’s typical for the better teams to use more players because they tend to have greater resources and, therefore, a bigger squad. In third place were Kilmarnock with 34, another example of a team struggling and feeling the need to make changes during the campaign to improve their fortunes. Expect them to figure highly again this season. Motherwell had two of the five players to play every single game (credit: @SPLStats)
What’s particularly surprising about this stat is that both players are attackers, central striker Louis Moult and winger/forward Marvin Johnson. Typically it’s a goalkeeper or reliable defender that feature in every single match, mainly because a team’s attack is the area of the field most likely to be in flux. Motherwell overcame a dreadful start under Iain Baraclough to make the top six, a reversal aided by a change in formation after January. New boss Mark McGhee went to a 4-3-3 with Moult and Johnson, along with Scott McDonald, making up the three-headed attack. When these guys are on form, Motherwell are a match for anyone in this league, but the stat does suggest they may be relying on their input and injuries could derail ambitions of reaching the top six again. Speaking of which, Moult is already out for the first four games of the new campaign after having surgery on his groin. Both Scottish and League Cup have had five different winners in the past five years
This has never happened before. Such runs have occurred in each competition - twice in the Scottish Cup since the war (late 50s and mid-90s) and twice in the League Cup’s history (early 50s and late 70s) - but never at the same time. It shows that while interest in the Scottish game from outside our borders may have decreased as Celtic enjoyed a monopoly, the cups became increasingly competitive during Rangers’ absence from the top flight. Now that they’ve taken up residence at the top table again, expect the trickle down effect to begin. A duopoly is better than a monopoly as far as the league is concerned, but is it better when it extends to every competition? St Johnstone won 25 points from losing positionsBy comparison, Dundee United won only three. It’s no surprise St Johnstone pick up a plethora of points from losing positions, but 25 is still an eyebrow-raising amount. It just goes to show: never count out St Johnstone; never underestimate Tommy Wright. Every single year we write off Saints chances of finishing in the top six, and every year they make us look like idiots when it’s all said and done. This campaign everyone is staying away from that trap. Despite Rangers’ return, which will (likely) lead to one fewer spot in the top six, Ross County and Motherwell both lost key players during the summer and none of last term’s bottom six sides look ready to make a significant leap. It will be St Johnstone’s sixth consecutive year making the top six. For a club of their size, it’s a phenomenal achievement. Kilmarnock were the youngster team in the SPFL (credit: @SPLStats)Unless there are increased roles for Steven Smith and Kris Boyd, which could happen as the former has been made captain and Boyd saw more game time once Lee Clark took over, then expect Kilmarnock to hold this honour again at the end of next season. Clark went out and signed an entire team for the new campaign, the oldest of which is Callum McFadzean at the grand old age of 22. There’s a bit of concern among Killie fans regarding the signing policy, but from the outside looking in it seems Clark has gone for the Inverness CT under Terry Butcher approach, bringing in a high volume of players in the hope three or four can significantly contribute. If they can then there’s enough about the rest of the squad to ensure their survival. Though rumblings of Clark having already fallen out with the players are a concern. Celtic’s Jack Aitchison was the first player born after the year 2000 to appear in the Scottish top flight (credit: @SPLStats) We’re all so very old. http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/nine-scottish-football-stats-and-what-they-tell-us-about-the-new-season-1-4191521
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3 Aug 2016, 11:03 AM
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Just read about the Maribor players, that is absolutely tragic.
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4 Aug 2016, 11:18 AM
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Jeremy Menez loses part of his ear after a freak accident in a friendly.
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4 Aug 2016, 02:05 PM
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John Obi Mikel is now Mikel John Obi after legally changing his name
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4 Aug 2016, 05:03 PM
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A Slovenian lawyer wants Mourinho jailed for his treatment of Schweinsteiger
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36975545
It's weird management, right enough, as far as I can tell all Schweinsteiger has done wrong is be a bit too old for the highest level and not play very well. Genuinely think Mourinho had some kind of breakdown at Chelsea, his behaviour was so bizarre and hysterical at times, and looks like he's not calmed down at all.
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4 Aug 2016, 05:05 PM
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A Slovenian lawyer wants Mourinho jailed for his treatment of Schweinsteiger http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36975545It's weird management, right enough, as far as I can tell all Schweinsteiger has done wrong is be a bit too old for the highest level and not play very well. Genuinely think Mourinho had some kind of breakdown at Chelsea, his behaviour was so bizarre and hysterical at times, and looks like he's not calmed down at all. guys a rat
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4 Aug 2016, 10:20 PM
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Still think that whoever thought it would be a good idea for West Ham to move away from Upton Park after 100 and odd years is .
God forbid we ever move into another stadium in the future
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BhoyRacer
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4 Aug 2016, 11:17 PM
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Anyone got a link to the Kieran Tierney interview from Japanese tv when he was a nipper? Can't seem to find it on YouTube.
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