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The "Where should I put this?" Thread;; Strange stories from the crazy world of football.
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Topic Started: 25 Sep 2012, 05:56 PM (238,150 Views)
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21 May 2016, 02:15 PM
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Actually, Dupraz pre match talk has been terrible, and nearly got them relegated. Toulouse were completely lost in the first half, missing a soft penalty, creating nothing, and they conceded a goal without any reaction. Toulouse just needed to win to beat relegation, for they were one point ahead of Reims and Ajaccio. But they looked strangely absent, clueless. His half time talk was much better and corrected his too emotional pre match stuff. It was recorded by French TV behind the closed door. With an unusual quite voice, he said : "guys, I've seen no reaction. You look defeated. Who among you hasn't won a game despite being 1-0 down at HT ? No-one. You all have done that before. Be calm, confident, play our game, give your all, and the result will come." Dupraz, as annoying as he is, really saved the club who were ten points behind safety six weeks before. But his pre match talk nearly wasted his good work. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EUuaOzC3KqQAny way to see this subtitled? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EP4pEzVRdg
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21 May 2016, 02:34 PM
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Actually, Dupraz pre match talk has been terrible, and nearly got them relegated. Toulouse were completely lost in the first half, missing a soft penalty, creating nothing, and they conceded a goal without any reaction. Toulouse just needed to win to beat relegation, for they were one point ahead of Reims and Ajaccio. But they looked strangely absent, clueless. His half time talk was much better and corrected his too emotional pre match stuff. It was recorded by French TV behind the closed door. With an unusual quite voice, he said : "guys, I've seen no reaction. You look defeated. Who among you hasn't won a game despite being 1-0 down at HT ? No-one. You all have done that before. Be calm, confident, play our game, give your all, and the result will come." Dupraz, as annoying as he is, really saved the club who were ten points behind safety six weeks before. But his pre match talk nearly wasted his good work. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EUuaOzC3KqQAny way to see this subtitled? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EP4pEzVRdgTry this. Cheers that was posted earlier
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21 May 2016, 02:53 PM
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With the recent good feeling and optimism, I've spent the morning / afternoon watching old you tube vids and googling some old Celtic fine moments. Then I stumbled across this article on the Celtic wiki...
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/m/page/Quotes+-+About+Celtic
Some of the quotes I'd read before, some I hadn't. Makes you realise what a club it is.
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21 May 2016, 10:12 PM
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This seemed to be the best thread for this. I was at the Reamonn Gormley Memorial Sportsman dinner last night in Blantyre. John Gahagan was the main speaker. If you've never seen him it's a must, he's like the Frankie Boyle of after dinner speakers. Most of the money raised went to the Good Child Foundation on behalf of Blantyre Soccer Acadamy and Reamonns family. A great night
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22 May 2016, 06:39 PM
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A good article on Sevilla's scouting.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/17/sevilla-monchi-liverpool-europa-league-final
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When Sevilla take on Liverpool in Wednesday’s Europa League final, they will be aiming to win the tournament for the third year running. The architect of their unprecedented era of glory is their sporting director
Ramón Rodríguez Verdejo is running through the team written on the paper in front of him, smoke rising slowly from the cigarette in his right hand, a Coke bottle on the table. Andrés Palop in goal; a back four of Dani Alves, Federico Fazio, Martin Cáceres and Adriano; Ivan Rakitic, Júlio Baptista, Seydou Keita and Christian Poulsen in midfield; Luís Fabiano and Carlos Bacca up front. All men he signed, for little over €25m (£23.5m). All men he sold too, for around €170m. Then there’s Sergio Ramos, Jesús Navas, Alberto Moreno, Luis Alberto and José Antonio Reyes: players he didn’t need to buy but did need to sell, youth products who raised almost €100m.
In his office is a photograph in which he stands alongside Diego Maradona with whom he became close even though he says he was pretty much the least important person at Sevilla in 1992, “the last monkey: a 23-year-old sub goalkeeper”. These days he’s pretty much the most important person at Sevilla. This morning he has mundane tasks to attend to – the logistics of players’ luggage for Basel – but the man they call Monchi is the sporting director and the architect who transformed the club.
When Monchi took over in 2000, Sevilla faced a financial crisis and had just been relegated. Sixteen years on, they play Liverpool in the Europa League final seeking their third title in a row, their fifth in a decade. Four days later they play Barcelona in the Copa del Rey final. Fourteen finals in 10 years while making the profit their model demands, selling players such as Baptista for a €24m profit or making €17.5m on Rakitic. Until Monchi arrived they had won four trophies ever, none in 52 years and success is what most satisfies: Monchi’s personal perfect XI would include Fredi Kanouté, who made them no money but scored in five finals.
“No one takes a ‘what great economic results’ banner to the stadium,” he says. Of all his signings, Kanouté would be “top three”, Monchi says, alongside Fabiano and Alves, who arrived an unknown 19-year old for around €200,000, having been spotted on one of those first scouting missions, and left for €36m with five titles under his arm. Each time they have sold, they have kept winning; Alves won this competition in 2006 and 2007 before departing. After the 2014 final, Rakitic went to Barcelona; after 2015, Carlos Bacca left for The inevitable question is: who goes after 2016? (Kévin Gameiro and Grzegorz Krychowiak are candidates). But also: who comes next? Monchi has replacements ready. “It’s not a trauma any more,” he admits. “Álvaro Negredo leaves and you think it’s the end of the world but along comes Bacca; then he goes and Gameiro proves himself.”
Up the lift where a musak version of Sevilla’s anthem plays and along to his office, Monchi outlines the methodology. Outside, an agent is waiting; one of his players is renewing today. “It’s not easy to con this guy,” he jokes. Inside, Monchi explains: “Sixteen people cover a series of leagues. For the first five months we watch a lot of football but with no particular aim: we’re just accumulating data. Every month we produce an ideal XI for each league. Then in December we start watching players who appeared regularly in different contexts – home, away, international – to build the broadest possible profile.”
Monchi pulls out his phone and, carefully reducing the image so the names can’t be seen, says: “That gives us this.” A colour-coded spreadsheet shows players by position. Around 250 potential targets, in all positions. “The manager says: ‘I want a left-back who averages 11km a game, runs 800m at full speed, uses both feet.’ And from these, 10 will fit.”
Negotiations come next, where you have to know the market, have an alternative, and be realistic. “The guy selling a Seat Leon will claim it’s a better model,” Monchi says. “Kanouté wasn’t the first option; we were going after Fred, the Brazilian. We wanted [Kevin-Prince] Boateng before Keita. And if a player says: ‘Chelsea want me,’ I say: ‘What are you talking to me for, then?’ But if Swansea or Spurs want you, let’s talk. I sell the city, the club: a serious club that pays as promised, which sounds trivial but isn’t.”
There’s no guarantee, of course. “After a month [Yevhen] Konoplyanka wanted to throw himself off the balcony. I try to really know the player but there are always surprises. Grzegorz Krychowiak, aged 19. You think: ‘What’s a Pole going to be like here?’ But it turns out he’s the most sevillano bloke ever. Arouna Koné was our most expensive signing and scored two in 41; he goes to Levante, a ‘weaker’ team, and scores 17.”
Monchi is quick to share success and admit the role played by fortune: Rakitic’s doubts were swept away on the first night of negotiations when he met his future wife. He talks about mistakes and takes responsibility for failure, calls his managers “victims” of a model that typically sees double-digit ins and outs every summer, and recalls the ones that got away – including “falling in love” with Luis Suárez. He says it is harder than ever, competition stiffer than when he started. But he has been successful. It helps that he never switches off, grinning: “I took my family to Sicily and it just happened that there was a game on.”
He has signed more than 200 players, but not one Briton. Are we really so bad? “No!” Monchi laughs. “You have to persuade a player on many levels – football, life, finance. Competing with English clubs economically was always tough; now it’s almost impossible, although we have bought from there. Iago Aspas and [Steven] N’Zonzi, for example. It’s a good market as English clubs buy a lot of players and only 11 can play; there’s an excess you can look at. We can’t sign Liverpool players: Sturridge, Firmino, Coutinho. But maybe if someone’s not playing regularly somewhere there’s an opportunity.”
A cash-rich import market, England is useful too. Gary Medel, Alberto Moreno, Navas, Reyes and Negredo went to the Premier League, their fees totalling more than £65m. “England’s a good client,” Monchi says. A stupid one, with more money than sense? Monchi says no, but there are differences he discovered when he set up in London for six months to analyse it better.
“There are loads of off-field things in which they beat us easily,” he says. “And on the football side, I saw very good work being done. But there’s a disconnect between that work and the advantage they glean from it. I know English clubs that are very professional, scouts everywhere, but the information they gather isn’t always applied. Why? Because they have money. That enables them to take fewer risks: ‘I’m not going to discover Keita at Lens; let Sevilla do that and then buy Keita from Sevilla.’”
And so Keita goes to Sevilla first, then moves on, which is good for everyone. But first: football. “Winning has given us sporting glory and that has a knock-on effect economically,” Monchi says. “We’ve created an environment conducive to players succeeding and improving. I went down to the dressing room after the semi-final and Adil Rami, who’s been at Lille, Valencia and Milan, hugged me and said: ‘I don’t know what it is about this club but I’ve never played a final in my life before and in one year I’m playing three.’”
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22 May 2016, 08:48 PM
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- paddyjoe
- 21 May 2016, 10:12 PM
This seemed to be the best thread for this. I was at the Reamonn Gormley Memorial Sportsman dinner last night in Blantyre. John Gahagan was the main speaker. If you've never seen him it's a must, he's like the Frankie Boyle of after dinner speakers. Most of the money raised went to the Good Child Foundation on behalf of Blantyre Soccer Acadamy and Reamonns family. A great night This guy, the ex-Motherwell player?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-rZ3oQ-AM
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22 May 2016, 09:43 PM
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Martin Bain, yep that one, has been appointed new CEO of Sunderland
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23 May 2016, 03:33 PM
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pished 4th official in the czech republic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iei9j9PS220
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23 May 2016, 08:27 PM
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- Gothamcelt
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- 21 May 2016, 10:12 PM
This seemed to be the best thread for this. I was at the Reamonn Gormley Memorial Sportsman dinner last night in Blantyre. John Gahagan was the main speaker. If you've never seen him it's a must, he's like the Frankie Boyle of after dinner speakers. Most of the money raised went to the Good Child Foundation on behalf of Blantyre Soccer Acadamy and Reamonns family. A great night
This guy, the ex-Motherwell player? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-rZ3oQ-AM That's the guy. It's true what he says in that interview it's like an alter ego when he does his stand up routine. You need to see him he is one of the best after dinner speakers on the circuit.
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24 May 2016, 08:05 PM
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36366924
Kim Little wins womens world player of the year.
Scotland has a few good players, just a pity the national team still don't qualify for tournaments and the league is pretty crap compared to US standards.
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24 May 2016, 08:24 PM
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36366924Kim Little wins womens world player of the year. Scotland has a few good players, just a pity the national team still don't qualify for tournaments and the league is pretty crap compared to US standards. I think that's about to change;
UEFA
The eight group winners and the six best runners-up then advance to the final tournament.
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24 May 2016, 09:14 PM
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36366924Kim Little wins womens world player of the year. Scotland has a few good players, just a pity the national team still don't qualify for tournaments and the league is pretty crap compared to US standards.
I think that's about to change; UEFAThe eight group winners and the six best runners-up then advance to the final tournament. Hope so.
Wish Celtic would take it more serious. Seems like a token gesture by them with the womens team compared to the standard of Glasgow City and Hibs. Most Scottish players seems to be abroad though or at Glasgow city.
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24 May 2016, 10:28 PM
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36366924Kim Little wins womens world player of the year. Scotland has a few good players, just a pity the national team still don't qualify for tournaments and the league is pretty crap compared to US standards.
I think that's about to change; UEFAThe eight group winners and the six best runners-up then advance to the final tournament.
Hope so. Wish Celtic would take it more serious. Seems like a token gesture by them with the womens team compared to the standard of Glasgow City and Hibs. Most Scottish players seems to be abroad though or at Glasgow city. My kids got free tickets to the recent Scotland v Spain woman's international at the Falkirk stadium. Took the kids along and must admit was surprised how poor the standard was. I'm pretty sure that Kim Little was playing but she didn't appear to be anything special, oh and the keepers were just as crap as I expected.
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24 May 2016, 10:38 PM
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36366924Kim Little wins womens world player of the year. Scotland has a few good players, just a pity the national team still don't qualify for tournaments and the league is pretty crap compared to US standards.
I think that's about to change; UEFAThe eight group winners and the six best runners-up then advance to the final tournament. Macedonia must be honking.
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24 May 2016, 10:38 PM
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36366924Kim Little wins womens world player of the year. Scotland has a few good players, just a pity the national team still don't qualify for tournaments and the league is pretty crap compared to US standards. Good for her. Some achievement.
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24 May 2016, 10:40 PM
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36366924Kim Little wins womens world player of the year. Scotland has a few good players, just a pity the national team still don't qualify for tournaments and the league is pretty crap compared to US standards. And she only earns 21k per year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33114171
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24 May 2016, 10:52 PM
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- In The Heat of Lisbon
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I imagine she makes something in endorsements but nowhere as much as US national team players like Hope Solo, Rapinoe, Morgan etc who are sponsored by Nike, Adidas etc.
I know some of the British players players in the US also have to play in the Australian league in the off season, probably to earn a living and the less good American players have other jobs or at college.
It costs about $18 to watch a womans game here.
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25 May 2016, 04:21 AM
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You want equality? Consider if that person feels Equal.
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36366924Kim Little wins womens world player of the year. Scotland has a few good players, just a pity the national team still don't qualify for tournaments and the league is pretty crap compared to US standards. I saw The Goal and was mesmerised at her determination and skill.
Up there in the top 10 best goals I have seen. I only saw it by chance as I avoid women's football. She taught me a lesson.
She waltzed around many players with ease and style, single mindedly honing in on goal.
A justified award.
Well done Kim Little.
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25 May 2016, 10:18 AM
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This isn't the guy you're looking for
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Arbroath's world record 36-0 victory over Bon Accord has finally been broken by a 3rd division team in Ecuador who won 44-1. Bet their keeper was raging.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/incredible-result-ecuador-3rd-division-pelileo-44-indi-native-1-video/
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25 May 2016, 10:58 AM
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- 25 May 2016, 10:18 AM
Just saw that. Golgolgolgolgolgolgolgolgolgolgooooooooooooollllllllllll x 44
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