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| The "Where should I put this?" Thread;; Strange stories from the crazy world of football. | |
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| In The Heat of Lisbon | 18 Nov 2015, 11:18 PM Post #3561 |
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It's absolutely nuts. Seriously have no idea what possessed Lenny to take that job. |
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| In The Heat of Lisbon | 18 Nov 2015, 11:19 PM Post #3562 |
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That would make La Liga more interesting. |
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| tonyjaa-csc | 19 Nov 2015, 12:04 AM Post #3563 |
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Older than dirt
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Talksport (I know, I know) was saying Amir Khan was leading a consortium to buy it over.... |
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| fatboab | 19 Nov 2015, 10:49 AM Post #3564 |
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Just before the Dawn
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in the absence of an appropriate thread... http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/14040812.Neil_Lennon_on_the_attack_at_Tynecastle___quot_Was_there_enough_done__No__I_don___t_think_there_was__quot_/ Neil Lennon on the attack at Tynecastle: "Was there enough done? No, I don’t think there was." Neil Lennon speaks about being attacked at Tynecastle in a new book about Celtic Celtic: Keeping the Faith by Richard Purden is out now in paperback (Freight Books, £8.99) IN the updated paperback version of Celtic: Keeping the Faith, author Richard Purden speaks to a number of figures from all walks of life about what the club means to them. Here is an edited extract from a chapter with the former Celtic manager, Neil Lennon. THE Celtic story in the 21st century is unimaginable without Neil Lennon. His effectiveness both in a green and white hooped shirt and as the club’s gaffer is associated with stirring displays, high promise and campaigns exuding confidence and unity. In the best Celtic way it was all wrapped in emotion and sentiment. The arrival of the player with cropped bleach blond hair strengthened an already gladiatorial side under Martin O’Neill and he would prove to be one of his mentor’s most valuable assets as an enforcing presence in midfield. As a manager he built a consistent reputation for sourcing talent and with great vision and energy he built one of the most convincing Celtic sides since the exit of Martin O’Neill. Today I find him at Bolton’s training ground in the northwest of England. He is less eminent in these parts than in Scotland but is perhaps the better for it. Today he affirms a calm and reflective presence. Promoted stories Recommended by He no longer has to field questions about wider problems in Scottish society or discuss political issues. There are no physical attacks in football stadia from the fans of rival clubs or parcel bombs sent through the post. He doesn’t get attacked or receive sectarian abuse in the street. But neither is he a spokesman for a large and significant community. At Bolton he doesn’t retain the emblematic status that he did at Celtic. On his days away from the game he plays golf, spends time with family or turns the pages of a history book. Without the extraordinary and grave concerns outside of football to think about any longer you can only imagine where the 44 year old will travel from here in sporting terms. What is clear is that Celtic will always be in the milieu. Significantly he never saw his role as a spokesman for matters beyond football as an obstacle: “It was important for me as the manager to front-up these questions and not shy away from that because I knew the history of the club. I was aware of what was going on socially within Glasgow and the environment whether it be sectarian, political or football matters. The Celtic support saw me as the leader to front-up on these issues because I had been in the framework of the club for 14 years as player, coach and manager. I think they could trust me to lead from the front in that aspect. I didn’t always want to do it because I got into some areas that were pretty unfamiliar for me. Coming down here and just talking about the football side of things, it’s far more secure and reassuring because I’m not going into waters that are unfamiliar.” One of Lennon’s many attacks was broadcast live to millions around the globe on television. Yet even in light of the evidence the assailant was only convicted with a lesser charge of breach of the peace, the sectarian element found to be not proven. Speaking today Lennon said: “From what I was told the prosecution made a booboo - they charged him with assault and charged him with a sectarian attack aggravated by racial and religious prejudice and the evidence was that there was no evidence of a sectarian attack. Then they said he had done his time by being in custody so there was no more time to do. Basically the four months he was inside - they felt that was enough. But the whole world saw what happened. It wasn’t the first time, I remember looking at the death threat story [before a Northern Ireland match against Cyprus] on the news and thinking they are actually talking about me. It’s a bit surreal so after the attack at Tynecastle I thought: “there’s got to be an outcry, there’s got to be something done now.” Was there enough done? No, I don’t think there was. “Did I feel let down? Yes as a player and manager I felt let down by certain quarters of the media and I know Martin (O’Neill) did. Could they have done more about it? It seemed to get to the point where the attitude was: “It’s Neil Lennon; he brings it on himself,” all that kind of crap. It was imbalanced and secular to the environment we found ourselves in. For instance when I was sent the bullets in the post, you then had this “he brings it on himself” attitude in the press and that I was an aggressive type. But Paddy McCourt and Niall McGinn got bullets in the post too. So what was the real reason behind it? We know what the real reason was, we were Irish Catholics working for Celtic and playing for Northern Ireland. Everyone refers to Scotland’s Shame but not a lot of people did a lot about it.” Lennon also convinced many that he was something of a diviner when it came to sourcing unknown quantities and turning them into superstars. In Gary Hooper Celtic found their first real talisman since Henrik Larsson. “He was unknown when we got him from Scunthorpe, we developed him and he turned out to be one of the best Celtic players of the last 25 years. It didn’t surprise me that when he got into that position he would score, he’s a natural. We got him for £1.5 million and sold him for £6 million - we did something right there. When you look at it - Victor Wanyama, Joe Ledley, Fraser Forster, Ki Sung-yueng they are all thriving in the environment of the Premier League. That gives us a huge amount of pride because we were the ones that developed them into the players that they have become. That was a strategy at the club which we followed, a good recruitment policy with figures like John Park in the background.” Lennon secured the services of Wanyama’s commanding presence for £800,000 and sold him for £12.5 million to Southampton. There were suggestions of more dominant English clubs coming in for the Kenyan and a £25 million price tag was slapped on his head, nevertheless it was an extraordinary piece of business: ‘You could tell straight away once he adapted to the pace of the game in Scotland that he would be an absolute superstar. He looked very comfortable in the environment of the Champions League and particularly the performance at Celtic Park against Barcelona on the night he scored, his all round game was phenomenal against the best players in the world. We could see the power that he had, the natural physique. For a big guy his technique was fantastic.” The notable talent of Leigh Griffiths is without question and while he has made ill-thought-out choices, it’s also fair to say the amount of puritanical aggression directed at the player in his early days at Celtic suggested a lot of first stones were being cast. Lennon also came in for some criticism when he secured the striker’s signature: “He’s a natural goalscorer and you can’t coach that, his movement was always very good. He’s got a bit of the devil in him -you don’t want to coach that out because some players need that, it helps them play with an edge. He’s been consistent wherever he’s gone and we had no qualms about signing him. We were very happy with his contribution, we only worked with him for about five months. He’s maybe not at the level of a Hooper but is without doubt a quality finisher and one you could work with and make even better. I’ve got a lot of time for him and I’m glad things are going well now at Celtic. There was no reason for us to think otherwise, he’s a good kid.” - Extract taken from Celtic: Keeping the Faith, by Richard Purden, out now in paperback (Freight Books, £8.99) |
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| Zurawski 7 | 19 Nov 2015, 08:55 PM Post #3565 |
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nice volley from a kilmarnock development game this week https://streamable.com/79f9 |
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| Soupnazi | 19 Nov 2015, 11:04 PM Post #3566 |
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Getting on a bit
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Ronny in a kilt ![]() Summer |
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| In The Heat of Lisbon | 19 Nov 2015, 11:52 PM Post #3567 |
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Is that Paul the Tim, standing to her left from about the 20sec mark? |
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| Soupnazi | 20 Nov 2015, 12:02 AM Post #3568 |
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Yes, doesnt she interview him in the dugout too? |
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| Zurawski 7 | 20 Nov 2015, 04:10 PM Post #3569 |
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Michel Bastos https://streamable.com/hq0c |
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| Ally Les Verts | 20 Nov 2015, 05:07 PM Post #3570 |
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Proud to be one of the 45%ers
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| barrybhoy | 20 Nov 2015, 05:18 PM Post #3571 |
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Ex Celt vies for Champions League glory... http://www.afp.com/en/news/zheng-zhi-leads-evergrande-afc-champions-league-final |
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| HELBHOY | 21 Nov 2015, 02:11 AM Post #3572 |
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Henriku Edewarude Rarususonu
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Cracker
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| Arturo Bassick | 21 Nov 2015, 02:46 AM Post #3573 |
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Occasional Substitute
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Toe poke. |
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| Gothamcelt | 21 Nov 2015, 09:51 AM Post #3574 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Roy Aitken clocking up the air miles. Interview: Roy Aitken back on trophy trail with Al-Ahli ALAN PATTULLO Former Scotland captain Aitken is in China as his United Arab Emirates side Al-Ahli attempt to win their continent’s Champions League You join us as a disorientated-sounding Roy Aitken is trying to establish which idiot has just woken him up at 2 o’clock in the morning to request an interview. Although it is tempting to say “it’s Gerry McNee” before quickly hanging up, such a cowardly instinct is resisted. Spoiler: click to toggle
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| tonyjaa-csc | 21 Nov 2015, 09:51 PM Post #3575 |
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Apparently Sunday papers are reporting that Charlie Austin is gonna declare for Ireland...... I'd be very happy with that |
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| tinytim81 | 22 Nov 2015, 03:17 AM Post #3576 |
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Not sure if there's a Celtic stat thread so if there is please let me know and I'll move this one to there. Been doing some homework on Celtic's history in the Champions League and the stats regards qualifying rounds are quite interesting, especially when taking into account Deila's remarks that the pressure of the Malmo game is what made the players buckle. 1998 is year zero as Celtic entered the Champions League tournament qualifiers for the first time in our history. Since then we have won 12 out of a possible 17 titles and played in the Champions League group stages 8 times. We have entered the Champions League qualifying rounds 12 times in our history. See the list of managers and how many qualifier attempts they made below: 1. Dr jo 1 2. Mon 3 3. WGS 2 4. Mowbray 1 5. NL 3 6. Deila 2 However, out of all those attempts we have only managed to get through the qualifiers 5 out of 12 times. The list of teams that we overcame are listed below: 1. Ajax 2. MTK hungaria 3. Spartak Moscow 4. Helsingborg 5. Shaktar Karagandy Now here's the list of team that got the better of us: 1. Croatia Zagreb 2. Basle 3. Artmedia Bratislava 4. Arsenal 5. Braga 6. Maribor 7. Malmo The failure rate is quite high and every manager we've ever had that actually managed to get us into the CL proper failed at least once in the qualifiers during their tenure as manager. From a fan perspective I can only think of one time out of those seven failures when the fans unanimously thought we didn't have a chance - Arsenal. The rest of the time most thought we were a better team than the opposition leading up to the game and expected Celtic to go through. Going back to my main point about pressure it's possible that Deila is quite correct. I'd say 5 out of 12 is a poor record, especially when you see some of the teams on the list. Even the best side we've had since the lions buckled under the weight of expectation. Maybe if we were the underdog more often in qualifiers we'd actually do better. We were probably the underdog in three of them: 1. Ajax 2. Spartak Moscow 3. Arsenal Of those three we made it through twice. This just a general observation though. Some times taking a step back shows a bigger picture. |
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| Zurawski 7 | 22 Nov 2015, 11:12 PM Post #3577 |
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| remy mcswain | 22 Nov 2015, 11:18 PM Post #3578 |
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I wonder what the excuse will be this time. |
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| Zurawski 7 | 22 Nov 2015, 11:28 PM Post #3579 |
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im sure someone will be along soon to make some up. charlton fans dont seem fussed http://intothevalley.proboards.com/t...edited-cardiff http://intothevalley.proboards.com/t...664/solly-watt some familiar criticism there |
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| Wee Ed KTF | 23 Nov 2015, 12:07 AM Post #3580 |
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Considering retirement
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With the Press Watch Thread in lockdown: BBC Sportscene - a blast from the past - Dundee (Albert Kidd) 2 Hearts 0, May 1986 Hoopy Days
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