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| Topic Started: 14 Nov 2017, 03:50 PM (112,470 Views) | |
| johncfc | 15 May 2018, 04:54 PM Post #1021 |
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Ideally I think we would like to see half a dozen or so players move on somewhere they will get game time. The problem most teams have is finding a buyer. Gamboa and the club will want him to move on, but will anyone match our valuation and pay a similar wage? Hopefully, otherwise the best we can do is loan these players out (see Cifti). |
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| 20Glasgow_Bhoy06 | 15 May 2018, 04:56 PM Post #1022 |
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I'd take his comments with a pinch of salt. He's not going to say there will be wholesale changes in the summer just a matter of days before a cup final. |
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| macon rouge | 15 May 2018, 04:57 PM Post #1023 |
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M'Bemba was a great Salif Keita cd and the first track on it was Bobo...an omen? No, probably not. |
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| Tenenbaum | 15 May 2018, 05:08 PM Post #1024 |
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Anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?
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When is a football club not looking to bring in quality? "We're looking to bring in a load of auld shampoo, gies your money." I'm getting tired of that phrase, it's a given and I'm starting to think it only gets trotted out to manage expectations. |
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| junglejim67 | 15 May 2018, 05:18 PM Post #1025 |
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Position to look examine this summer. Right Back. Lustig is going to world cup and will miss some euro qualifiers. He also seems to be nearly done as a Celtic player. Performances have really dropped. Seems Ralston might not be performing at the level we expected. Dundee utd playoff he did manage a goal, but then was supposedly burned on a Livi goal? Didn't see it myself. Seems his development hasn't really been going as well as planned. That leaves us with Gamboa. Look at his appearances for Celtic. Exactly 19. He has not played 1 minute or featured since his 19th game (which he played well in - unless I'm mistaken). I assume part of his deal included more money after 20 appearances. Doubt Celtic would want to pay the money for a guy they aren't that keen on. My bet is you'll never see the guy in Celtic jersey again unless we are really stuck. Look for Celtic to sign a RB this summer. |
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| amccarten313 | 15 May 2018, 05:46 PM Post #1026 |
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GK- personally happy with Gordon, Bain, Hazard/Doohan. punt DDV if possible. loan either Hazard or Doohan RB- Gamboa will leave, you would think. need competition for Lustig, not just a backup. intrigued to see what BR does re:Ralston, him and Lustig as our only 2 RBs going into the season would give me the fear for sure. need to add starter level player CB- Ajer obviously stays. if boyata doesn't want to re-sign he has to go. actually don't think keeping jozo around as cover would (necessarily) be the end of the world if you accept we could well punt boyata, sviat, maybe even compper too. sviat would like to sell if we could get a decent fee. compper, who knows, obviously since he has joined his minimal impact whether through injury issues or general shampooery is troubling. Hendry and bitton are reasonable backups. need to add at minimum one quality starter level player and ideally one more decent option. LB- glaringly obvious we need a proper deputy for KT, not just McGregor or hayes. I actually like calvin miller but BR seems to not rate him. seems like a loan move would be beneficial as it would allow him to develop more as LB considering he never really played there before and he needs game time. however his contract up end of next season so if BR doesn't rate maybe get what we can this summer. Conclusion- need at least a suitable backup. going back to the RB position it would really be great if we had someone who could adeptly fill in at either fullback slot midfield- assuming one of (if not both) of rogic and Armstrong are going. punt allan. that leaves ntcham brown McGregor, with bitton and kouassi also there. maybe ewan Henderson will also get more time. I actually think kouassi is decent to keep around but maybe a short term loan would benefit him. confusing how little he has played given he looks alright when he does. as stated bitton a good option who Brendan trusts in midfield and at the back. I think we need 2 players at least with one as an immediate impact player at a similar level to rogic or Armstrong. it would really, really be great to kick the can down the road with rogic like we did with Armstrong last summer if we cannot get him a long term contract. would like to keep both but doesn't seem likely ; Roberts going. Forrest stays. Hayes back from injury. I would keep Sinclair. decisions to be made on Christie and morgan in terms of whether to keep them around. Johnston also back from injury. Forrest, Sinclair, Hayes, Morgan, Christie, Johnston not enough in my opinion. one more really quality addition would be good, maybe get rid of Christie. hayes was just finding some form and is a decent squad option. so ideally one more solid option. no idea what to do with benyu seems like that was a very unproductive loan spell for whatever reason striker- would love to keep dembele one more yr, maybe a one yr extension to his current deal with a pay bump? but assuming he leaves that's LG and edouard. plus aitchison, who doesn't seem to have shown up on brendans radar at all. drive ciftci to his next destination for free. one more starter level player here is a must I feel given LGs injury problems. hernandez whose been linked would be sufficient |
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| HenkesGhod | 15 May 2018, 06:28 PM Post #1027 |
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GK: Gordon, Bain, Doohan RB: New Starter, Ralston LB: Tierney, New Backup CB: Ajer, Compper, Hendry, New CB CM: Brown, Kouassi, McGregor, Ntcham, Christie, Bitton RW: Forrest, Morgan LW: Sinclair, Hayes ST: Dembele, Edouard, Griff If we treat it as a 25 man squad as will be required for CL then I'd imagine we're looking at something like this. Would see outgoings of: DDV (Free), Boyata (5-10m), Jozo (5-10m), Sviatchenko (2-5m), Lustig (1m), Gamboa(500k), Rogic (10-15m), Armstrong (7-13m) from the first team squad as well as punting deadwood like: Ciftci and Allan. Would hope with sales of so many players we'd bring in a decent wedge, I did ballpark figures and if we took the lowest estimate of each of the bracketed figures it would give us 30 million to spend to improve the squad with only 3 defensive signings imperative for squad depth. Would hope some positions would be strengthened further (ie not going into the season with Ryan Christie and Nir Bitton vying for the Rogic positon) with the money from the VVD transfer as well as sales made and CL revenue. Edouard is the only assumed transfer in that I've made since it's been widely reported we're in negotiations atm for him. I think/hope we might see more of Compper after he's had the full preseason working with the coaching staff. If we're going to persist with 3 at the back the final squad position would hopefully be given to a further CB signing. Hopefully see guys like Miller, Johnstone, Hazard, Henderson, Benyu, and Aitchison sent out on loan for their development Edited by HenkesGhod, 15 May 2018, 06:28 PM.
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| remy mcswain | 15 May 2018, 06:31 PM Post #1028 |
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Some of those valuations are effing mental
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| HenkesGhod | 15 May 2018, 06:32 PM Post #1029 |
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In today's market those are the prices we should be expecting, I actually felt like I was being conservative
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| remy mcswain | 15 May 2018, 06:33 PM Post #1030 |
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Armstrong in last year of contract £7m to £13m. Conservative?
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| HenkesGhod | 15 May 2018, 06:35 PM Post #1031 |
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Was quoted with a move to Southampton last summer for 7 million iirc? That's where I took it from, with the higher figures meant to reflect that the market has gotten even more batshampoo crazy since then
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| remy mcswain | 15 May 2018, 06:36 PM Post #1032 |
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Armstrong’s form this year is a lot worse than it was last year. |
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| HenkesGhod | 15 May 2018, 06:38 PM Post #1033 |
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That is very true, but not a chance SPLOB wouldn't be using that figure to drive up his price. I admit the higher end of the estimate is probably a bit extreme, but in today's market everything is nuts in football so someone might pay it
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| VerdeYBlanco | 15 May 2018, 06:38 PM Post #1034 |
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Not Celtic related, but Mulumbo seems to want to stay with Killie. Would be a great bit of business if they can keep him. |
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| Country Mac | 15 May 2018, 06:38 PM Post #1035 |
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If we get anywhere close to 5-10 million for Jozo or 7 mil for Armstrong in the last year of his deal I'll be beyond amazed. The market has gone mental but the kind of teams likely to splash the crazy money will have much better options than those guys. Wouldn't take a penny less than 10 million for Rogic right enough. Even then I'd be after more. |
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| HenkesGhod | 15 May 2018, 06:41 PM Post #1036 |
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Jozo was moving to Torino for 4 million when he'd hardly kicked a ball for us and was injury plagued. Since then he's established himself in our team, been called up to the Bosnia squad, and represented us in the CL (where he admittedly got roasted but hey ). If he was worth 4 million then, he's worth more now.
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| Country Mac | 15 May 2018, 06:53 PM Post #1037 |
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I hope so but just can't see it to be honest. Maybe around the summer when things were going great for him. But he's really gone downhill at an alarming rate this season and doesn't look like he'll be a regular starter again any time soon. His international ordeal can't have helped him much either. If we get anything close to what we paid for him I'd be more than happy with that. |
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| QualityStreet1970 | 16 May 2018, 12:25 AM Post #1038 |
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And all that Champions League cash? |
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| Father John Misty | 16 May 2018, 09:54 AM Post #1039 |
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A site called CeltsAreHere is saying CELTIC are reportedly in advanced talks with Tom Rogic’s representatives as they look to tie up the midfielder for the next 3-4 years. Tom has a year left on his current deal with many speculating that he if he doesn’t re-sign by the nearer the end of the August window then Celtic will cash in on their player of six years. However, Rodgers is desperate to hold on to his big game player and since talks stalled a couple of months ago – reports suggest that talks have been going well over the Australian’s future. As the cliche always goes – these things take time but Celtic are being very active in this regard. The Celtic manager is also still keen to sign Dedryk Boyata up on a new deal but the Belgian is still playing hardball. The defender spoke earlier this season of wanting to play in the Premier League soon. |
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| Father John Misty | 16 May 2018, 09:55 AM Post #1040 |
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Newcastle, Leicester and West Ham are being linked with Roberts for 15million. |
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That's where I took it from, with the higher figures meant to reflect that the market has gotten even more batshampoo crazy since then
9:12 AM Jul 11