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Squad; Post-transfer window discussion
Topic Started: 14 Nov 2017, 03:50 PM (112,476 Views)
Rodan
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ronan cfc
13 May 2018, 03:33 PM
over 3 hours without a home goal

Didn't finish top scorers in the league

Least amount of home since the turn of the century at least

Joint 3rd smallest points total since the turn of the century

Failed to score in 8 of our games.


The overhaul most thought would come a couple of years ago needs to happen now.

It'll take getting pumpt oot the CL qualifiers, sadly. Squeezing as much as we can out of this squad and it's really starting to show.
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Stringer Bell
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The team needs improved. John McGinn won't improve us.
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We need 3/4 good signings and a few of our own players to be more consistent.
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We've been good at winning crunch games this season but absolutely abject bordering shampooe in most of the other games.

As another poster pointed out in the match thread, half of these guys are only turning up when they want to. Hope the supporters don't get stuffed in the transfer window again because the CL qualifiers give me the fear.

Let's not do a Peter Lawwell special of gambling the group stage money by trying to get there on a shoestring again.
Edited by macfleeto, 13 May 2018, 03:55 PM.
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Mods will have a shift on their hands come summer transfer thread time :lol:
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Novelty_Bauble
13 May 2018, 04:12 PM
Mods will have a shift on their hands come summer transfer thread time :lol:
Probably more of a shift than what Lawwell will have :twitch:
Edited by The user with no name, 13 May 2018, 06:27 PM.
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Radagast
13 May 2018, 11:39 AM
Is our poor success rate with transfers a symptom of the market/price range we're shopping in? Our previous managers also struggled with this.
Don't think so, when we've spent money it's generally been a success : Ntcham, Edouard, Sinclair etc
It's the £1m bracket where we struggle :Compper, Hendy, Gamboa etc

Need 3x £5m players which is easily doable for us & much needed.
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Hairytoes
13 May 2018, 06:13 PM
Radagast
13 May 2018, 11:39 AM
Is our poor success rate with transfers a symptom of the market/price range we're shopping in? Our previous managers also struggled with this.
Don't think so, when we've spent money it's generally been a success : Ntcham, Edouard, Sinclair etc
It's the £1m bracket where we struggle :Compper, Hendy, Gamboa etc

Need 3x £5m players which is easily doable for us & much needed.
:thumbsup:
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13 May 2018, 09:42 AM
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We have a lot of work to do this summer but I’m sure we have been aware of this well in advance. We knew the situations with Armstrong,Roberts, Rogic & Dembele a year ago. We have tried to fix the defence on the cheap but this has clearly been a complete waste of time & we are back at square 1. Lustig also urgently needs replaced. To spend in excess of £20m this summer is hardly a big ask considering the 2 years CL money & the Virgil bonus. If Dembele & somebody else go this window it wouldn’t even be a net spend ffs. It’s not a case of spending for the sake of spending but because we really need to. We don’t need any more £1m defenders or any more young projects. Sutton is bang on when he says our recent recruitment has been very poor. We have had the time to plan in advance for this window & we have the funds to do things. The last 3 windows have been a huge disappointment & as a result no progress has been made on the park.
Yeah, no excuses, no effing about, we need to spend big and as early as possible in the window.
We never need to spend big really, just be effing smart with who we get.

Who was the last big money signing we made that proved their worth consistently over a whole contract?
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macfleeto
13 May 2018, 03:54 PM
We've been good at winning crunch games this season but absolutely abject bordering shampooe in most of the other games.

As another poster pointed out in the match thread, half of these guys are only turning up when they want to. Hope the supporters don't get stuffed in the transfer window again because the CL qualifiers give me the fear.

Let's not do a Peter Lawwell special of gambling the group stage money by trying to get there on a shoestring again.
It might already be too late to make any meaningful signings before the qualifiers. Hopefully Brendan's record in big games will see us right. Squad needs freshening though without a doubt.
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Gonga
13 May 2018, 06:23 PM
Father John Misty
13 May 2018, 10:42 AM
katlegend
13 May 2018, 09:42 AM

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Yeah, no excuses, no effing about, we need to spend big and as early as possible in the window.
We never need to spend big really, just be effing smart with who we get.

Who was the last big money signing we made that proved their worth consistently over a whole contract?
Ntcham aside, who's looked worth every penny, we've not made a big money signing since Tony Blair was in office.
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Gonga
13 May 2018, 06:23 PM
Father John Misty
13 May 2018, 10:42 AM
katlegend
13 May 2018, 09:42 AM

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Yeah, no excuses, no effing about, we need to spend big and as early as possible in the window.
We never need to spend big really, just be effing smart with who we get.

Who was the last big money signing we made that proved their worth consistently over a whole contract?
If we want to progress we really do need to spend big, transfer fee's have gone mental, we could be losing some big players and we already needed improvements in a few positions.
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Gonga
13 May 2018, 06:23 PM
Father John Misty
13 May 2018, 10:42 AM
katlegend
13 May 2018, 09:42 AM

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Yeah, no excuses, no effing about, we need to spend big and as early as possible in the window.
We never need to spend big really, just be effing smart with who we get.

Who was the last big money signing we made that proved their worth consistently over a whole contract?
Well John Hartson was our last big money signing so we have no one to judge that on in the last 17 years.
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Hairytoes
13 May 2018, 06:13 PM
Radagast
13 May 2018, 11:39 AM
Is our poor success rate with transfers a symptom of the market/price range we're shopping in? Our previous managers also struggled with this.
Don't think so, when we've spent money it's generally been a success : Ntcham, Edouard, Sinclair etc
It's the £1m bracket where we struggle :Compper, Hendy, Gamboa etc

Need 3x £5m players which is easily doable for us & much needed.
No way will we be able to spend that type of money.

15m in fees before we’ve negotiated a contract?

Dreaming
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Kingslim
14 May 2018, 08:42 AM
Hairytoes
13 May 2018, 06:13 PM
Radagast
13 May 2018, 11:39 AM
Is our poor success rate with transfers a symptom of the market/price range we're shopping in? Our previous managers also struggled with this.
Don't think so, when we've spent money it's generally been a success : Ntcham, Edouard, Sinclair etc
It's the £1m bracket where we struggle :Compper, Hendy, Gamboa etc

Need 3x £5m players which is easily doable for us & much needed.
No way will we be able to spend that type of money.

15m in fees before we’ve negotiated a contract?

Dreaming
why?

the cash is there and assuming we dont have a disaster in the qualifiers then we are fine
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Hairytoes
13 May 2018, 06:13 PM
Radagast
13 May 2018, 11:39 AM
Is our poor success rate with transfers a symptom of the market/price range we're shopping in? Our previous managers also struggled with this.
Don't think so, when we've spent money it's generally been a success : Ntcham, Edouard, Sinclair etc
It's the £1m bracket where we struggle :Compper, Hendy, Gamboa etc

Need 3x £5m players which is easily doable for us & much needed.
:thumbsup:

And that’s on top of signing Edouard, for whatever the agreed fee is.

Three players of the quality you’d expect for ~£5m would make all the difference we need. They’d bring the other good players in the squad up to the level that they can and should be playing at.
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We don't need to spend huge amounts if our scouts are doing their job right, they should be hunting down young players who are going places like wanyama, virgil, hooper, moussa etc, players that will come in and do their thing for 2 seasons and move on for big transfer fees or players who have lost their way a bit who would jump at the chance to play for Celtic and kick start their career. we might be sitting with a good few quid in the bank but the CL is going to be tougher to get into so money from that cannot be counted on, we can't blow what we have on a few players and leave ourselves short.
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Gonga
13 May 2018, 06:23 PM
Father John Misty
13 May 2018, 10:42 AM
katlegend
13 May 2018, 09:42 AM

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Yeah, no excuses, no effing about, we need to spend big and as early as possible in the window.
We never need to spend big really, just be effing smart with who we get.

Who was the last big money signing we made that proved their worth consistently over a whole contract?
Big Bad John....
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13 May 2018, 06:13 PM
Radagast
13 May 2018, 11:39 AM
Is our poor success rate with transfers a symptom of the market/price range we're shopping in? Our previous managers also struggled with this.
Don't think so, when we've spent money it's generally been a success : Ntcham, Edouard, Sinclair etc
It's the £1m bracket where we struggle :Compper, Hendy, Gamboa etc

Need 3x £5m players which is easily doable for us & much needed.
Don't tell Peter Lawwell it is easily doable or he'll end up in hospital
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