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Squad; Post-transfer window discussion
Topic Started: 14 Nov 2017, 03:50 PM (112,488 Views)
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3 May 2018, 09:47 PM
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3 May 2018, 09:29 PM
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3 May 2018, 07:55 PM

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According to this site, you are the balloon my friend. Both Edouard and Griffiths score more frequently than Dembele. But what do I know, according to some folks I was the only Celtic fan in the world who liked Charlie Mulgrew, and the only one in the world, except a few thousand Hibs fans, who thinks Neil Lennon gor an excellent deal in Efe Ambrose. Not one person has given a logical answer as to why they think we would get (note would get, not would like to get) between 15m and 25m for Dembele. Some have even questioned paying less than half of that for Edouard, who has a superior scoring record.

Edit. this is the link I meant to add. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/scottish-premiership/top-scorers
Because we don't sell our best players on the cheap. Because we have a great position in that we do not need to sell and he still has plenty of time on his contract. Because he will have plenty of clubs in for him which will only increase the price. Because he counts as home-grown to English clubs. Because he counts as home-grown to French clubs. Because he's showed his ability in Europe. Because he bangs them in for the French 21s. Because you'll struggle to find any forward his age anywhere with that sort of physical presence. Because managers don't burst in to the boardroom screaming "Get me the man that has the most goals in Scotland regardless of minutes played, injuries, all round game and potential right this minute but just in the league mind because the cups don't count"

12-13 Hooper was 5th top scorer miles behind Higdon with a year left on his deal and we still got 5, 6 million? Dembele is far younger, better, we're in a far stronger position financially and the market has boomed since then.
Nice to get some sensible replies for a change. I do agree he has lots of potential but I would still be delighted if we got 15m for him, based on performances for us.
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3 May 2018, 11:37 PM
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3 May 2018, 10:44 PM
kellybhoy
3 May 2018, 09:29 PM
This season is Edouards first of any note. We're now into Dembeles third with almost 150 games and near 70 goals to his name. He made his first team debut in 2013/14 in a League that is respected down south. He was also effective in that league.

Edouard has a total of 45 games and about a dozen goals. A lot of those appearances were as a sub and the vast majority in the SPFL.

The straight of it is, Dembele has proven more that Edouard has at this point and many people in football feel as if Moussa is ready for his next big challenge. That puts him in a certain price bracket for young strikers with his experience and potential. We'll get 20 mill relatively easily for him in the current climate.

We might one day get huge money for Edouard but in terms of market value, he is considerably behind his big mate.
I hope you are right because I want to see Celtic get the most money possible for him. It is just my opinion that we won't get as much as many people on this thread seem to think we will.
You do know we are wanting to pull the trigger on Edouard for 7million? A guy, whom in comparison to Dembele is totally unproven other than in the SPL and at youth level in France.

And you're seriously saying you don't think we'll get even 3 million more than that sum for Dembele? Given the countless arguments posted above?

Very strange.
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I fear that Ciftci will be here longer than any of us.
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I fear that Ciftci will be here longer than any of us.
We'll be lucky to get 10 million for him.
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I fear that Ciftci will be here longer than any of us.
Nadir Ciftci here for 10 in a row
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4 May 2018, 01:27 AM
I fear that Ciftci will be here longer than any of us.
Nadir Ciftci here for 10 in a row
Scores the league winning goal for the 10 after freak injuries to all other outfield players.

Written into the history books for eternity. Ciftci.
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4 May 2018, 06:46 AM
MON's Left Eyebrow
4 May 2018, 01:27 AM
I fear that Ciftci will be here longer than any of us.
Nadir Ciftci here for 10 in a row
Scores the league winning goal for the 10 after freak injuries to all other outfield players.

Written into the history books for eternity. Ciftci.
Scored the first goal of BRs reign. :hmmm:
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There was a Tweet a few weeks ago (I think it was Celtic Rumours so probably a load of nonsense) that said we’d agreed a deal with Hibs for McGinn but they were wanting us to pay St Mirren whatever they’d be due as part of the sell on. Could that be the reason we chose to buy Morgan outright in January instead of getting him on a pre-contract? I’d imagine it’s made St Mirren easier to deal with.
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4 May 2018, 08:41 AM
There was a Tweet a few weeks ago (I think it was Celtic Rumours so probably a load of nonsense) that said we’d agreed a deal with Hibs for McGinn but they were wanting us to pay St Mirren whatever they’d be due as part of the sell on. Could that be the reason we chose to buy Morgan outright in January instead of getting him on a pre-contract? I’d imagine it’s made St Mirren easier to deal with.
St Mirren are due 30% of McGinn's fee but I'd be surprised if the Morgan transfer has any impact on it.

FWIW I heard Hibs were sounding teams out about McGinn in January and we weren't interested, because we're top heavy with MF's atm or because BR doesn't rate him I don't know. I'm sure we'll find out when Armstrong goes. Hibs wont get 2 million for McGinn.
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3 May 2018, 03:57 PM
I'd keep Bitton.
As would I.

Don't think Sinclair will be going anywhere either.
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Need a new right back and right winger for when Paddy goes.
Sign up Edouard and Bain.
New centre back I think too.

Move Ciftci, Biton, Sviatchenko, Jozo on.
Dembele and Armstrong to leave I reckon
Edited by DannyBhoyy, 4 May 2018, 11:25 AM.
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4 May 2018, 11:24 AM
Need a new right back and right winger for when Paddy goes.
Sign up Edouard and Bain.
New centre back I think too.

Move Ciftci, Biton, Sviatchenko, Jozo on.
Dembele and Armstrong to leave I reckon
Mikey Johnston will be back up right winger as he's highly rated and needs games. Ralston might be back up right back. He's strong and a good defender.
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4 May 2018, 11:30 AM
DannyBhoyy
4 May 2018, 11:24 AM
Need a new right back and right winger for when Paddy goes.
Sign up Edouard and Bain.
New centre back I think too.

Move Ciftci, Biton, Sviatchenko, Jozo on.
Dembele and Armstrong to leave I reckon
Mikey Johnston will be back up right winger as he's highly rated and needs games. Ralston might be back up right back. He's strong and a good defender.
I've only ever seen him play on the left. Wouldn't be surprised if we gave him a season at St Mirren.
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4 May 2018, 11:30 AM
DannyBhoyy
4 May 2018, 11:24 AM
Need a new right back and right winger for when Paddy goes.
Sign up Edouard and Bain.
New centre back I think too.

Move Ciftci, Biton, Sviatchenko, Jozo on.
Dembele and Armstrong to leave I reckon
Mikey Johnston will be back up right winger as he's highly rated and needs games. Ralston might be back up right back. He's strong and a good defender.
I've only ever seen him play on the left. Wouldn't be surprised if we gave him a season at St Mirren.
I thought Johnston looked far more dangerous on the right, where he could cut in, than on the left.
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I've only ever seen him play on the left. Wouldn't be surprised if we gave him a season at St Mirren.
I thought Johnston looked far more dangerous on the right, where he could cut in, than on the left.
I watch the kids games when I can and he's normally on the left or middle of the 3, but he's got two good feet anyway, I don't think either wing would be a problem.

Please excuse the horrible music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQtVFfRkyLc
Edited by Father John Misty, 4 May 2018, 12:29 PM.
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CELTIC are close to signing teenage Liverpool striker Rhian Brewster, widely regarded as one of the best young talents in English football, on loan for next season.

The 18-year-old was part of the England squad which won the Under-17 World Cup last year and even won the Golden Boot award as the tournament's top scorer.

Brewster was poached by Liverpool from Chelsea in 2015, when Rodgers was manager at Anfield, and he is viewed by many as one of the best

strikers to emerge from England in recent years.

Celtic have, under Rodgers, used the loan system to their great benefit and we understand advanced talks have taken place between both clubs about a season-long loan.

Liverpool and Brewster himself are open to the plan but there are other clubs down south which would love to have such a talent for a year, and so the deal is yet to be done.

However, sources close to Liverpool last night suggested that it was more likely than not that Brewster will move to Glasgow on a temporary basis as Jurgen Klopp believes this to be an ideal move for his player.

It certainly would be an exciting move for Celtic given what Brewster has already achieved at the very start of his career. He is lightening quick and ticks a lot of boxes in terms of what Rodgers wants to bring to Celtic.

Last season, he scored successive hat-tricks against the United States and Brazil in the quarter and semi-finals of the Under-17 World Cup. He then scored England’s opening goal in the final which his team won 5-2 against Spain.

There is every chance that either, or both, Moussa Dembele will leave and Odsonne Edouard returns to parent club Paris Saint-Germain, so a new striker would be one of the more obvious moves for Celtic to make this summer.

Brewster gained a lot of credit when he spoke openly in January about his team-mate Morgan Gibbs-White being racially abused by a Spanish player in that final.

He was first spotted at the Shield Academy in London and in an interview last year, the chief coach of the club, Dan Seymour, revealed this was a young man destine for the top.

“It wasn't long after I opened Shield that one of the players asked if he could bring a close family friend to the academy, and that was Rhian," Seymour told BBC Sport.

"He was scouted in the first two minutes of his first game after rounding the entire opposition, scoring and then grabbing the ball and putting it back on the spot.

"In the time it took that to happen, Martin Taylor, the academy scout at Chelsea, approached his dad and me, and said he wanted him immediately."
My prediction is that this lad will be at Sevco on loan for the season

The above story was planted early to make it look like Gerard would be gazumping BR
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CELTIC are close to signing teenage Liverpool striker Rhian Brewster, widely regarded as one of the best young talents in English football, on loan for next season.

The 18-year-old was part of the England squad which won the Under-17 World Cup last year and even won the Golden Boot award as the tournament's top scorer.

Brewster was poached by Liverpool from Chelsea in 2015, when Rodgers was manager at Anfield, and he is viewed by many as one of the best

strikers to emerge from England in recent years.

Celtic have, under Rodgers, used the loan system to their great benefit and we understand advanced talks have taken place between both clubs about a season-long loan.

Liverpool and Brewster himself are open to the plan but there are other clubs down south which would love to have such a talent for a year, and so the deal is yet to be done.

However, sources close to Liverpool last night suggested that it was more likely than not that Brewster will move to Glasgow on a temporary basis as Jurgen Klopp believes this to be an ideal move for his player.

It certainly would be an exciting move for Celtic given what Brewster has already achieved at the very start of his career. He is lightening quick and ticks a lot of boxes in terms of what Rodgers wants to bring to Celtic.

Last season, he scored successive hat-tricks against the United States and Brazil in the quarter and semi-finals of the Under-17 World Cup. He then scored England’s opening goal in the final which his team won 5-2 against Spain.

There is every chance that either, or both, Moussa Dembele will leave and Odsonne Edouard returns to parent club Paris Saint-Germain, so a new striker would be one of the more obvious moves for Celtic to make this summer.

Brewster gained a lot of credit when he spoke openly in January about his team-mate Morgan Gibbs-White being racially abused by a Spanish player in that final.

He was first spotted at the Shield Academy in London and in an interview last year, the chief coach of the club, Dan Seymour, revealed this was a young man destine for the top.

“It wasn't long after I opened Shield that one of the players asked if he could bring a close family friend to the academy, and that was Rhian," Seymour told BBC Sport.

"He was scouted in the first two minutes of his first game after rounding the entire opposition, scoring and then grabbing the ball and putting it back on the spot.

"In the time it took that to happen, Martin Taylor, the academy scout at Chelsea, approached his dad and me, and said he wanted him immediately."
My prediction is that this lad will be at Sevco on loan for the season

The above story was planted early to make it look like Gerard would be gazumping BR
I think you are spot on with that.

Did it appear in the sun?
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I thought Johnston looked far more dangerous on the right, where he could cut in, than on the left.
I watch the kids games when I can and he's normally on the left or middle of the 3, but he's got two good feet anyway, I don't think either wing would be a problem.

Please excuse the horrible music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQtVFfRkyLc
:thumbsup: Cheers. I've only seen him play in the first team.
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1 May 2018, 08:45 AM
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CELTIC are close to signing teenage Liverpool striker Rhian Brewster, widely regarded as one of the best young talents in English football, on loan for next season.

The 18-year-old was part of the England squad which won the Under-17 World Cup last year and even won the Golden Boot award as the tournament's top scorer.

Brewster was poached by Liverpool from Chelsea in 2015, when Rodgers was manager at Anfield, and he is viewed by many as one of the best

strikers to emerge from England in recent years.

Celtic have, under Rodgers, used the loan system to their great benefit and we understand advanced talks have taken place between both clubs about a season-long loan.

Liverpool and Brewster himself are open to the plan but there are other clubs down south which would love to have such a talent for a year, and so the deal is yet to be done.

However, sources close to Liverpool last night suggested that it was more likely than not that Brewster will move to Glasgow on a temporary basis as Jurgen Klopp believes this to be an ideal move for his player.

It certainly would be an exciting move for Celtic given what Brewster has already achieved at the very start of his career. He is lightening quick and ticks a lot of boxes in terms of what Rodgers wants to bring to Celtic.

Last season, he scored successive hat-tricks against the United States and Brazil in the quarter and semi-finals of the Under-17 World Cup. He then scored England’s opening goal in the final which his team won 5-2 against Spain.

There is every chance that either, or both, Moussa Dembele will leave and Odsonne Edouard returns to parent club Paris Saint-Germain, so a new striker would be one of the more obvious moves for Celtic to make this summer.

Brewster gained a lot of credit when he spoke openly in January about his team-mate Morgan Gibbs-White being racially abused by a Spanish player in that final.

He was first spotted at the Shield Academy in London and in an interview last year, the chief coach of the club, Dan Seymour, revealed this was a young man destine for the top.

“It wasn't long after I opened Shield that one of the players asked if he could bring a close family friend to the academy, and that was Rhian," Seymour told BBC Sport.

"He was scouted in the first two minutes of his first game after rounding the entire opposition, scoring and then grabbing the ball and putting it back on the spot.

"In the time it took that to happen, Martin Taylor, the academy scout at Chelsea, approached his dad and me, and said he wanted him immediately."
My prediction is that this lad will be at Sevco on loan for the season

The above story was planted early to make it look like Gerard would be gazumping BR
You'd think that if this was even remotely the case, Brendan will inevitably be asked today about this and he would have the opportunity to slap it down completely.

Regardless of his age and inexperience, due to the trajectory of his career to date, I can't see a player like Brewster choosing to be anywhere near Sevco, Gerrard or not.
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1 May 2018, 08:45 AM
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CELTIC are close to signing teenage Liverpool striker Rhian Brewster, widely regarded as one of the best young talents in English football, on loan for next season.

The 18-year-old was part of the England squad which won the Under-17 World Cup last year and even won the Golden Boot award as the tournament's top scorer.

Brewster was poached by Liverpool from Chelsea in 2015, when Rodgers was manager at Anfield, and he is viewed by many as one of the best

strikers to emerge from England in recent years.

Celtic have, under Rodgers, used the loan system to their great benefit and we understand advanced talks have taken place between both clubs about a season-long loan.

Liverpool and Brewster himself are open to the plan but there are other clubs down south which would love to have such a talent for a year, and so the deal is yet to be done.

However, sources close to Liverpool last night suggested that it was more likely than not that Brewster will move to Glasgow on a temporary basis as Jurgen Klopp believes this to be an ideal move for his player.

It certainly would be an exciting move for Celtic given what Brewster has already achieved at the very start of his career. He is lightening quick and ticks a lot of boxes in terms of what Rodgers wants to bring to Celtic.

Last season, he scored successive hat-tricks against the United States and Brazil in the quarter and semi-finals of the Under-17 World Cup. He then scored England’s opening goal in the final which his team won 5-2 against Spain.

There is every chance that either, or both, Moussa Dembele will leave and Odsonne Edouard returns to parent club Paris Saint-Germain, so a new striker would be one of the more obvious moves for Celtic to make this summer.

Brewster gained a lot of credit when he spoke openly in January about his team-mate Morgan Gibbs-White being racially abused by a Spanish player in that final.

He was first spotted at the Shield Academy in London and in an interview last year, the chief coach of the club, Dan Seymour, revealed this was a young man destine for the top.

“It wasn't long after I opened Shield that one of the players asked if he could bring a close family friend to the academy, and that was Rhian," Seymour told BBC Sport.

"He was scouted in the first two minutes of his first game after rounding the entire opposition, scoring and then grabbing the ball and putting it back on the spot.

"In the time it took that to happen, Martin Taylor, the academy scout at Chelsea, approached his dad and me, and said he wanted him immediately."
My prediction is that this lad will be at Sevco on loan for the season

The above story was planted early to make it look like Gerard would be gazumping BR
That's a safer bet than Gerrard lasting the season.
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