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Squad; Post-transfer window discussion
Topic Started: 14 Nov 2017, 03:50 PM (112,499 Views)
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davesterjc
21 Apr 2018, 10:17 PM
I feel as though we're going through a period of transition which may continue next season.

One point i'd make is the quality of signings recently is not what i expect.

Dundee and StMirren players are not going to raise our level.

Big summer coming up.
Feel like that’s the problem Deila had, he’d just buy out the league with the best players from other Scottish teams.

Brendan comes in and gets players in from the likes of Man City and PSG, but I hope he’s not going back to the old way.
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popeyed
23 Apr 2018, 11:35 AM
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23 Apr 2018, 11:33 AM
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23 Apr 2018, 11:31 AM

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That was under WGS though.
I bet Stevie Clarke would improve our defense.

What does Kolo do?
Cone and bib man.
Kolo is on the cones
Jfk is on the bibs
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stevie21
23 Apr 2018, 11:39 AM
bigdavie
23 Apr 2018, 11:31 AM
stevie21
23 Apr 2018, 11:28 AM
Amazing to think that we looked stronger defensively with Caldwell and McManus in the Champions League than we do currently with any of the current lot, even in the SPFL. :blink:
Both of them were bang average but they look like Baresi and Costacurta compared to what's come after them VVD excluded.
Aye, they were both howling, but we never went into any game worried we'd lose 4 or more goals. 3-0 was a regular thing in Europe, but shipping 7 goals was unheard of. For all that we want ball playing CBs for domestic games, that seems to come with defensive frailties that leaves us terribly exposed against quality.

I never thought I'd see the day where I reminisced about the good old days of Caldwell and McManus :lol:
Few folk need to wash their mouths out regarding GC5
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tonyjaa-csc
23 Apr 2018, 12:24 PM
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23 Apr 2018, 11:35 AM
Hairytoes
23 Apr 2018, 11:33 AM

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Cone and bib man.
Kolo is on the cones
Jfk is on the bibs
That's a bit pish - JFK been here for years and he brings Kolo in above him?
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Swansea City have joined Celtic and Rangers in the race to sign Dundee's 22-year-old Finland midfielder, Glen Kamara. (Sun)

no thanks
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Our record with guys called kamara is poor.
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We need to go out there and find the new VVD. Easier said than done.

Armstrong should be sold if he doesn't sign a new contract.

The same for Boyata. I like him but it is probably best he moves on.

Moussa, will be off as well. We will be needing a new forward.

I am happy for Bain to be given a chance as our no.1. Can't see him signing to sit behind Gordon for 2 more seasons.

Sign Roberts and someone who can give Broony a break. A new lb is needed to.

This summer will be a massive rebuilding job.
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We need to go out there and find the new VVD. Easier said than done.

Armstrong should be sold if he doesn't sign a new contract.

The same for Boyata. I like him but it is probably best he moves on.

Moussa, will be off as well. We will be needing a new forward.

I am happy for Bain to be given a chance as our no.1. Can't see him signing to sit behind Gordon for 2 more seasons.

Sign Roberts and someone who can give Broony a break. A new lb is needed to.

This summer will be a massive rebuilding job.
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There's a reason that the Scottish national team isn't very good and it's that we don't produce the players. There are a few high quality players and Celtic should definitely have a decent number of home grown players, but it's not our job to improve the national team.

I'm not going to write off either Hendry or Morgan until they've had a decent run of games in their proper positions, but at the same time I can't see any evidence that our defence will have what it takes to qualify for the CL unless we shift some out and bring in higher quality.

We'd have been better taking a punt on Caulker on the kind of wages Dundee are paying him, rather than paying a million for Hendry then having to pay another fee for the guy who replaced him for free at Dundee.

Unless the defence gets seriously sorted out, then more of the same awaits in Europe if we get there, not least against the top seeds.
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I've got similar fears about the defence, that I did with Ronnie.
Dare I say it, we've also seen the same complacency start to creep in.

We're good "when we turn up" patter & that's from the testimonial captain.
Can't say that I'm at all confident of CL qualification & that we really should have built on last season - which we haven't.
Edited by Hairytoes, 24 Apr 2018, 11:20 AM.
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21 Apr 2018, 03:27 PM
We're pish. Start again.

Or at least buy a CB that can defend.
Seems to be a blind spot for the manager and his scouting team
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As a minimum we need a new centre half and a new right back.

I'd like to see Ajer continuing to get games, and I can cope with any of the others that we have being 3rd/4th choice, but we need to have someone better as first choice alongside Ajer. I have no problem with any of the current centre halves who aren't Ajer leaving either. As you might have guessed, I like Ajer :lol:

Lustig, for all that I love the guy, is done. Gamboa's all but out the door and Ralston isn't the answer. I can live with a new first choice right back and then Lustig/Ralston as backup though.

Sort those two positions out and I think you go a long way to getting the defence sorted. We'll always struggle against teams like PSG of course, but with quick and intelligent defenders in the side we'd hopefully not see any more unwanted records being set.

As for the other positions, we can obviously improve in every area but the most pressing ones as it stands are a backup left back, and a left winger who can either kick give Sinclair the kick up the arse he needs or replace him in the side. Personally I'd change the goalie too, but I'd be surprised if we do anything there. Maybe let DDV go and replace him with Hazard, but I don't see Gordon or Bain leaving.

Other signings will be dictated by who leaves. I think Ntcham will be expected to start most games alongside Brown next season, so if Armstrong goes I'm not sure that we'll make a big signing there as I'd guess that they'll want to give Kouassi more of a role too. I think one of the big misses from this season compared to last has been Armstrong's running and goalscoring threat from the middle of the park though, and whether Kouassi & McGregor can replicate that is debatable.

Roberts will presumably be gone for good this time so there's room for someone there, unless the plan is to get Musonda to play there. If Dembele's sold (and I'm actually not convinced that he will be) then we'll maybe look for another striker. I think we'll sign Edouard permanently regardless, so perhaps we'll look for a similar loan-then-buy deal for another youngster like him.
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would like the following

a keeper who can pass the ball out + bain

2 x centre halfs (sell jozo, boyata, comperr)
right back + poss KT cover


browns repalcement (spl he's fine not for europe)
mcginn? can he improve under brendan?

armstrong keep if he extends otherwise pun
rogic as per armstrong

wings - sign paddy, forrest and morgan adequate in that area

up top were ok if we retain those 3
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Tonus
24 Apr 2018, 09:46 AM
Our record with guys called kamara is poor.
I think you mean guys called Camara. Diomansy was fine.
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I'd like to see new recruitment team & defensive coaches.

Congreton & Kolo are relatively new additions to the team & don't seem up to anything much.
Probably take a fair wedge too.

Focus on basic defending, 1st goal especially on Saturday was abysmal & down to pure basics.

Yeah, replace players - but the basics are terrible & that's got to be down to coaching too, as well as Gordon/Boyata etc..

As in January, we need CB, GK & RB. January was a serious lapse in management & a real worry.
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Hairytoes
24 Apr 2018, 12:48 PM
I'd like to see new recruitment team & defensive coaches.

Congreton & Kolo are relatively new additions to the team & don't seem up to anything much.
Probably take a fair wedge too.

Focus on basic defending, 1st goal especially on Saturday was abysmal & down to pure basics.

Yeah, replace players - but the basics are terrible & that's got to be down to coaching too, as well as Gordon/Boyata etc..

As in January, we need CB, GK & RB. January was a serious lapse in management & a real worry.
Didn't John Kennedy and Stevie Woods say there is no such thing as a defensive coach in football?
Edited by allthewine, 24 Apr 2018, 12:54 PM.
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24 Apr 2018, 12:48 PM
I'd like to see new recruitment team & defensive coaches.

Congreton & Kolo are relatively new additions to the team & don't seem up to anything much.
Probably take a fair wedge too.

Focus on basic defending, 1st goal especially on Saturday was abysmal & down to pure basics.

Yeah, replace players - but the basics are terrible & that's got to be down to coaching too, as well as Gordon/Boyata etc..

As in January, we need CB, GK & RB. January was a serious lapse in management & a real worry.
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I'd like to see new recruitment team


Congerton is Brendan's man, he will go nowhere unless Brendan goes to Chelsea/Arsenal etc and in that case he will join up with Brendan's backup staff there

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January was a serious lapse in management & a real worry.


Yep, we have gotten pumped by a team that outspends us with 14:1 (or something like that), lost to Killie away and this weekend to Hibs away since New Years day, can see the major worry right there

Would only wish that Brendan would load up Football Manager and learn how easy it is to sign star players for Celtic
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24 Apr 2018, 12:59 PM
Hairytoes
24 Apr 2018, 12:48 PM
I'd like to see new recruitment team & defensive coaches.

Congreton & Kolo are relatively new additions to the team & don't seem up to anything much.
Probably take a fair wedge too.

Focus on basic defending, 1st goal especially on Saturday was abysmal & down to pure basics.

Yeah, replace players - but the basics are terrible & that's got to be down to coaching too, as well as Gordon/Boyata etc..

As in January, we need CB, GK & RB. January was a serious lapse in management & a real worry.
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I'd like to see new recruitment team


Congerton is Brendan's man, he will go nowhere unless Brendan goes to Chelsea/Arsenal etc and in that case he will join up with Brendan's backup staff there

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January was a serious lapse in management & a real worry.


Yep, we have gotten pumped by a team that outspends us with 14:1 (or something like that), lost to Killie away and this weekend to Hibs away since New Years day, can see the major worry right there

Would only wish that Brendan would load up Football Manager and learn how easy it is to sign star players for Celtic
So, January is fine by you?

Cool, it's a major worry for me & one that will hinder CL qualification.
CB, GK, RB are still issues, not only for next season - but now. Most of our goals against come from a combination of GK/CB/RB errors - a mojor weakness not rectified in January (half of the chances we get to replace players).
Agree to disagree, no problem.

If Congerton is Brendan's man, that shouldn't matter if he isn't good enough at his job, we all make mistakes & he has been one so far.
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DKB
24 Apr 2018, 12:59 PM
Hairytoes
24 Apr 2018, 12:48 PM
I'd like to see new recruitment team & defensive coaches.

Congreton & Kolo are relatively new additions to the team & don't seem up to anything much.
Probably take a fair wedge too.

Focus on basic defending, 1st goal especially on Saturday was abysmal & down to pure basics.

Yeah, replace players - but the basics are terrible & that's got to be down to coaching too, as well as Gordon/Boyata etc..

As in January, we need CB, GK & RB. January was a serious lapse in management & a real worry.
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I'd like to see new recruitment team


Congerton is Brendan's man, he will go nowhere unless Brendan goes to Chelsea/Arsenal etc and in that case he will join up with Brendan's backup staff there

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January was a serious lapse in management & a real worry.


Yep, we have gotten pumped by a team that outspends us with 14:1 (or something like that), lost to Killie away and this weekend to Hibs away since New Years day, can see the major worry right there

Would only wish that Brendan would load up Football Manager and learn how easy it is to sign star players for Celtic
Brendan has undoubtedly been absolutely brilliant for Celtic BUT that doesn't mean that him or the set up is above criticism.

The defence is an accident waiting to happen and anyone who watched that 2nd half in Kazakhstan back in August will have seen that. We had a chance to begin attending to it in January and from what I can see achieved the square root of hee haw. If we don't do something major with it this summer then I suspect CL qualification will be even more difficult than it already is.

Others on this forum have better info than me when it comes to matters behind the scenes but I wonder what Congleton's excuse is over Compper who by all accounts is as slow as week in the jail.
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Does Kolo not work with the youths?

And I don't think our coaches are split along the lines of defensive and offensive coaches.

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