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6 Mar 2018, 05:57 PM
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The Royal Black are kinda the diet Orange Order and although I have no respect for either, they are donating to a worthy cause. It warrants publicity in that part of Ireland.
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6 Mar 2018, 06:30 PM
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up on the roof!!
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Maybe because I don't live in Ireland but I read it and couldn't see where the offence comes from? I just saw it as something to be congratulated and well done to those who raised the money for such a good cause. don't know whether to use my mod powers to delete on the basis this might be discussing Irish politics and thus against our forum rules!! ...
or delete on basis it's really nothing to do with the sport/football media which is the topic of this thread
or say... makes two of us
indeed, if anything, it struck me as being modestly critical of "loyalist" intransigence?
am now away to ban myself for breaking the rules !!
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6 Mar 2018, 06:42 PM
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Nicholas' comments are pretty stupid - even by his own standards. The boy isn't Scottish because of his accent?
Apparently he also said if he had any faith in his ability he'd choose to play for England. I'm not sure it's McTominay who's forgotten where he's from.
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6 Mar 2018, 07:08 PM
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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Maybe because I don't live in Ireland but I read it and couldn't see where the offence comes from? I just saw it as something to be congratulated and well done to those who raised the money for such a good cause.
don't know whether to use my mod powers to delete on the basis this might be discussing Irish politics and thus against our forum rules!! ... or delete on basis it's really nothing to do with the sport/football media which is the topic of this thread or say... makes two of us indeed, if anything, it struck me as being modestly critical of "loyalist" intransigence? am now away to ban myself for breaking the rules !! A third option would be to stop deleting stuff like this and, if you don't like it, tell people to draw a line under it. These empty pages at the end of threads are a bigger pain in the arse than a post about wee Jay and some loyalists. Fishing and trolling posts are also supposed to be banned but they're everywhere.
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6 Mar 2018, 07:10 PM
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don't know whether to use my mod powers to delete on the basis this might be discussing Irish politics and thus against our forum rules!! ... or delete on basis it's really nothing to do with the sport/football media which is the topic of this thread or say... makes two of us indeed, if anything, it struck me as being modestly critical of "loyalist" intransigence? am now away to ban myself for breaking the rules !!
A third option would be to stop deleting stuff like this and, if you don't like it, tell people to draw a line under it. These empty pages at the end of threads are a bigger pain in the arse than a post about wee Jay and some loyalists. Fishing and trolling posts are also supposed to be banned but they're everywhere. Totally agree
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6 Mar 2018, 07:36 PM
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Keith Jackson banging the drum for McLeish. Recruiting Manchester United star Scott McTominay will justify Alex McLeish's appointment without a ball being kicked - JacksonThe 21-year-old midfielder is believed to have committed his international future to Scotland. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson He'll be at Selhurst Park tonight looking for another nibble at Scott McTominay’s ear and confirmation that the Manchester United youngster really has chosen Scotland over England. And if Alex McLeish can pull this one off then he’ll have justified his own appointment as national boss without a single ball having been kicked. Late yesterday afternoon word was filtering out of Old Trafford that McTominay’s mind has been made up and the Scotland boss has successfully talked him into defecting from his homeland to that of his Glaswegian father. This came as something of a surprise to McLeish who was still waiting patiently to meet up with the player again in London tonight. But if it is true that one of English football’s most highly-rated emerging talents has chosen Big Eck over Gareth Southgate then McLeish may have done our country a favour which will last for many years after his own second stint in the hotseat is over. In other words, he could not have got off to a more impressive start even before he’s named his first squad for the friendlies against Costa Rica and Hungary. There’s no doubt about it, the horrendously meat-headed way in which the SFA went about sacking Gordon Strachan and then selecting McLeish as his successor had created significant doubts over the new man before he’s even slipped back into his old tracksuit. That’s hugely unfair on him as the victim of boardroom politics after being championed by Alan McRae and Rod Petrie, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of Hampden’s sixth floor. Throw into that mix McRae somehow managing to talk Walter Smith out of a job he was unexpectedly willing to accept and it’s little wonder there was a feeling of national antipathy towards McLeish’s big unveiling. While Smith took one look at the credentials of the men he’d be working for and chose to bolt shut the front door of his retirement home, he was only too willing to usher them inside for a cosy chat. There was always a danger in all this that McLeish – having been unemployed for two years and not managed in British football since 2013 – would be seen as almost desperate for the offer. But so what if was? Isn’t that one of the very first criteria we ought to be looking for when it comes to picking a Scotland manager? Someone who actually wants to be here? Of course, there are others who point to the decision McLeish made to abandon ship back in 2007 when he resigned from the role after only a handful of games in charge in order to muscle his way into the English top flight and a job at Birmingham City. These strident nationalists would have had him stopped at the border and turned away for this act of treason and they will not be doing a Highland jig at having him back in charge now. But what they saw as desertion was, in reality, the actions of man doing nothing more treacherous than looking after his own career. It’s all very well for the Tartan Army diehards to say they would never leave the Scotland job no matter what was on offer elsewhere because that’s a decision none of them will ever be in a position to have to make. McLeish did what any aspiring, ambitious manager would have done so let’s be spared of this shortbread tin thumping and focus instead on the job in hand. That’s why, when the country was battling with the Beast of the East, the Scotland manager was in Greater Manchester to open talks with McTominay on Thursday of last week. He was able to use his experience and his extensive contact book to speak directly with Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho and set up a face-to-face with the 21-year-old at the club’s Carrington HQ. That he managed to get himself sat down with McTominay a full 24 hours before Southgate had pulled up a seat at the same table, should come as a hugely encouraging sign to those who may have doubts or concerns over his readiness for the position. McLeish acted swiftly and professionally to get this conversation started and McTominay and Mourinho must have been impressed by his determination to barge Scotland to the front of the queue. Big Eck will have made him feel wanted and that could swing it in Scotland’s favour if he has not been made to feel as valued by the country of his birth. Also, at no point during their talks was McLeish given reason to doubt McTominay’s sincerity or his willingness to consider pulling on a dark blue shirt. At no point did it feel like a wasted trip. And, given the reputation this kid is busy building that should come as an almighty compliment to McLeish and Scottish football. Let’s remember what we are dealing with here – a player who has burst onto the scene under one of the greatest club managers in history and who is keeping £90million French ace Paul Pogba out of the starting 11. Think about that for a second. Mourinho thinks this kid is even better than Pogba? It wasn’t so long ago Scotland was capping Paul Telfer. Seasoned United observers are already comparing him to a younger version of Nemanja Matic. He may or may not go on to deliver on all of this potential but that’s not McLeish’s responsibility. No, all he can do is focus on the here and now and attempt to convince McTominay that Scotland’s wilderness years may be coming to and end and that together they can do something meaningful, maybe even historic. With the likes of Liverpool’s Andy Robertson and Celtic’s Kieran Tierney around him, McTominay may believe he is getting in on something exciting and vibrant. That’s why McLeish will hope to shake hands on a pact after United’s meeting with Crystal Palace tonight. Even if it should fall through at the 11th hour the Scotland boss can hardly be held responsible. On the contrary, he should be congratulated for getting so close. But if McTominay does say yes, McLeish’s second term will be off to a flyer. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/recruiting-manchester-united-star-scott-12126530
“It wasn’t that long ago Scotland were picking Paul Telfer” What a strange and snide wee comment. He got capped once and it was actually about 20 years ago, and he spent most of his career playing in the EPL before he won two titles here. There’s been much worse. Or even Graham Murty, who won more caps, and more recently than Telfer.
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6 Mar 2018, 07:42 PM
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don't know whether to use my mod powers to delete on the basis this might be discussing Irish politics and thus against our forum rules!! ... or delete on basis it's really nothing to do with the sport/football media which is the topic of this thread or say... makes two of us indeed, if anything, it struck me as being modestly critical of "loyalist" intransigence? am now away to ban myself for breaking the rules !!
A third option would be to stop deleting stuff like this and, if you don't like it, tell people to draw a line under it. These empty pages at the end of threads are a bigger pain in the arse than a post about wee Jay and some loyalists. Fishing and trolling posts are also supposed to be banned but they're everywhere. I'm guessing that a Mod can also edit a post instead of deleting it.
Would make the board easier to navigate (no empty pages) if they could.
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6 Mar 2018, 07:49 PM
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Old fud, taking things easy......
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Just heard on Sky News that Guardiola, after his bother with the FA about his ribbon, is allowed to wear it in the Champions League with no issue from UEFA.
Where does that leave us with the Palestinian flags?
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6 Mar 2018, 07:51 PM
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Just heard on Sky News that Guardiola, after his bother with the FA about his ribbon, is allowed to wear it in the Champions League with no issue from UEFA. Where does that leave us with the Palestinian flags? It's a bit of a mess and it seems like offences are made up on the hoof.
Pep's charge was surprising giving the FA's hypocrisy regarding the fuss they made over the Poppy issue not 6 months ago.
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6 Mar 2018, 08:08 PM
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Actually I thought it was quite a sensible article, and particularly complimentary of wee Jay. Of course I don't have much time or respect for the OO but I'd rather we raised money for charity together than be killing each other.
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6 Mar 2018, 08:17 PM
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Nothing but positive towards Jay IMO.
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6 Mar 2018, 09:39 PM
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up on the roof!!
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don't know whether to use my mod powers to delete on the basis this might be discussing Irish politics and thus against our forum rules!! ... or delete on basis it's really nothing to do with the sport/football media which is the topic of this thread or say... makes two of us indeed, if anything, it struck me as being modestly critical of "loyalist" intransigence? am now away to ban myself for breaking the rules !!
A third option would be to stop deleting stuff like this and, if you don't like it, tell people to draw a line under it. These empty pages at the end of threads are a bigger pain in the arse than a post about wee Jay and some loyalists. Fishing and trolling posts are also supposed to be banned but they're everywhere. The empty pages at the end of some threads are absolutely nothing to do with posts being deleted
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6 Mar 2018, 09:56 PM
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don't know whether to use my mod powers to delete on the basis this might be discussing Irish politics and thus against our forum rules!! ... or delete on basis it's really nothing to do with the sport/football media which is the topic of this thread or say... makes two of us indeed, if anything, it struck me as being modestly critical of "loyalist" intransigence? am now away to ban myself for breaking the rules !!
A third option would be to stop deleting stuff like this and, if you don't like it, tell people to draw a line under it. These empty pages at the end of threads are a bigger pain in the arse than a post about wee Jay and some loyalists. Fishing and trolling posts are also supposed to be banned but they're everywhere. Im not trying in anyway to troll..posted because the wee guy is Celtic daft and internationally recognised....rest of my point is made in my post without going over it again.
The wee man is connected with the club in a big way and felt it merits a post obviously..
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6 Mar 2018, 09:59 PM
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A third option would be to stop deleting stuff like this and, if you don't like it, tell people to draw a line under it. These empty pages at the end of threads are a bigger pain in the arse than a post about wee Jay and some loyalists. Fishing and trolling posts are also supposed to be banned but they're everywhere.
Im not trying in anyway to troll..posted because the wee guy is Celtic daft and internationally recognised....rest of my point is made in my post without going over it again. The wee man is connected with the club in a big way and felt it merits a post obviously.. I think the article is a genuine attempt to illustrate how 2 opposite communities can come together.
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Keith Jackson banging the drum for McLeish. Recruiting Manchester United star Scott McTominay will justify Alex McLeish's appointment without a ball being kicked - JacksonThe 21-year-old midfielder is believed to have committed his international future to Scotland. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson He'll be at Selhurst Park tonight looking for another nibble at Scott McTominay’s ear and confirmation that the Manchester United youngster really has chosen Scotland over England. And if Alex McLeish can pull this one off then he’ll have justified his own appointment as national boss without a single ball having been kicked. Late yesterday afternoon word was filtering out of Old Trafford that McTominay’s mind has been made up and the Scotland boss has successfully talked him into defecting from his homeland to that of his Glaswegian father. This came as something of a surprise to McLeish who was still waiting patiently to meet up with the player again in London tonight. But if it is true that one of English football’s most highly-rated emerging talents has chosen Big Eck over Gareth Southgate then McLeish may have done our country a favour which will last for many years after his own second stint in the hotseat is over. In other words, he could not have got off to a more impressive start even before he’s named his first squad for the friendlies against Costa Rica and Hungary. There’s no doubt about it, the horrendously meat-headed way in which the SFA went about sacking Gordon Strachan and then selecting McLeish as his successor had created significant doubts over the new man before he’s even slipped back into his old tracksuit. That’s hugely unfair on him as the victim of boardroom politics after being championed by Alan McRae and Rod Petrie, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of Hampden’s sixth floor. Throw into that mix McRae somehow managing to talk Walter Smith out of a job he was unexpectedly willing to accept and it’s little wonder there was a feeling of national antipathy towards McLeish’s big unveiling. While Smith took one look at the credentials of the men he’d be working for and chose to bolt shut the front door of his retirement home, he was only too willing to usher them inside for a cosy chat. There was always a danger in all this that McLeish – having been unemployed for two years and not managed in British football since 2013 – would be seen as almost desperate for the offer. But so what if was? Isn’t that one of the very first criteria we ought to be looking for when it comes to picking a Scotland manager? Someone who actually wants to be here? Of course, there are others who point to the decision McLeish made to abandon ship back in 2007 when he resigned from the role after only a handful of games in charge in order to muscle his way into the English top flight and a job at Birmingham City. These strident nationalists would have had him stopped at the border and turned away for this act of treason and they will not be doing a Highland jig at having him back in charge now. But what they saw as desertion was, in reality, the actions of man doing nothing more treacherous than looking after his own career. It’s all very well for the Tartan Army diehards to say they would never leave the Scotland job no matter what was on offer elsewhere because that’s a decision none of them will ever be in a position to have to make. McLeish did what any aspiring, ambitious manager would have done so let’s be spared of this shortbread tin thumping and focus instead on the job in hand. That’s why, when the country was battling with the Beast of the East, the Scotland manager was in Greater Manchester to open talks with McTominay on Thursday of last week. He was able to use his experience and his extensive contact book to speak directly with Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho and set up a face-to-face with the 21-year-old at the club’s Carrington HQ. That he managed to get himself sat down with McTominay a full 24 hours before Southgate had pulled up a seat at the same table, should come as a hugely encouraging sign to those who may have doubts or concerns over his readiness for the position. McLeish acted swiftly and professionally to get this conversation started and McTominay and Mourinho must have been impressed by his determination to barge Scotland to the front of the queue. Big Eck will have made him feel wanted and that could swing it in Scotland’s favour if he has not been made to feel as valued by the country of his birth. Also, at no point during their talks was McLeish given reason to doubt McTominay’s sincerity or his willingness to consider pulling on a dark blue shirt. At no point did it feel like a wasted trip. And, given the reputation this kid is busy building that should come as an almighty compliment to McLeish and Scottish football. Let’s remember what we are dealing with here – a player who has burst onto the scene under one of the greatest club managers in history and who is keeping £90million French ace Paul Pogba out of the starting 11. Think about that for a second. Mourinho thinks this kid is even better than Pogba? It wasn’t so long ago Scotland was capping Paul Telfer. Seasoned United observers are already comparing him to a younger version of Nemanja Matic. He may or may not go on to deliver on all of this potential but that’s not McLeish’s responsibility. No, all he can do is focus on the here and now and attempt to convince McTominay that Scotland’s wilderness years may be coming to and end and that together they can do something meaningful, maybe even historic. With the likes of Liverpool’s Andy Robertson and Celtic’s Kieran Tierney around him, McTominay may believe he is getting in on something exciting and vibrant. That’s why McLeish will hope to shake hands on a pact after United’s meeting with Crystal Palace tonight. Even if it should fall through at the 11th hour the Scotland boss can hardly be held responsible. On the contrary, he should be congratulated for getting so close. But if McTominay does say yes, McLeish’s second term will be off to a flyer. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/recruiting-manchester-united-star-scott-12126530
“It wasn’t that long ago Scotland were picking Paul Telfer” What a strange and snide wee comment. He got capped once and it was actually about 20 years ago, and he spent most of his career playing in the EPL before he won two titles here. There’s been much worse.
Or even Graham Murty, who won more caps, and more recently than Telfer. It was a moronic comment on so many levels. Garry Kenneth and Ian Black always stick out to me as players who should never have been capped, they’ve spent most of their careers failing to impress in the lower leagues and now play Junior football.
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6 Mar 2018, 11:31 PM
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Paul Telfer played for Celtic. Keith Jackson is a Hun. It’s not exactly Sherlock stuff.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Recruiting Manchester United star Scott McTominay will justify Alex McLeish's appointment without a ball being kicked - JacksonThe 21-year-old midfielder is believed to have committed his international future to Scotland. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson He'll be at Selhurst Park tonight looking for another nibble at Scott McTominay’s ear and confirmation that the Manchester United youngster really has chosen Scotland over England. And if Alex McLeish can pull this one off then he’ll have justified his own appointment as national boss without a single ball having been kicked. Late yesterday afternoon word was filtering out of Old Trafford that McTominay’s mind has been made up and the Scotland boss has successfully talked him into defecting from his homeland to that of his Glaswegian father. This came as something of a surprise to McLeish who was still waiting patiently to meet up with the player again in London tonight. But if it is true that one of English football’s most highly-rated emerging talents has chosen Big Eck over Gareth Southgate then McLeish may have done our country a favour which will last for many years after his own second stint in the hotseat is over. In other words, he could not have got off to a more impressive start even before he’s named his first squad for the friendlies against Costa Rica and Hungary. There’s no doubt about it, the horrendously meat-headed way in which the SFA went about sacking Gordon Strachan and then selecting McLeish as his successor had created significant doubts over the new man before he’s even slipped back into his old tracksuit. That’s hugely unfair on him as the victim of boardroom politics after being championed by Alan McRae and Rod Petrie, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of Hampden’s sixth floor. Throw into that mix McRae somehow managing to talk Walter Smith out of a job he was unexpectedly willing to accept and it’s little wonder there was a feeling of national antipathy towards McLeish’s big unveiling. While Smith took one look at the credentials of the men he’d be working for and chose to bolt shut the front door of his retirement home, he was only too willing to usher them inside for a cosy chat. There was always a danger in all this that McLeish – having been unemployed for two years and not managed in British football since 2013 – would be seen as almost desperate for the offer. But so what if was? Isn’t that one of the very first criteria we ought to be looking for when it comes to picking a Scotland manager? Someone who actually wants to be here? Of course, there are others who point to the decision McLeish made to abandon ship back in 2007 when he resigned from the role after only a handful of games in charge in order to muscle his way into the English top flight and a job at Birmingham City. These strident nationalists would have had him stopped at the border and turned away for this act of treason and they will not be doing a Highland jig at having him back in charge now. But what they saw as desertion was, in reality, the actions of man doing nothing more treacherous than looking after his own career. It’s all very well for the Tartan Army diehards to say they would never leave the Scotland job no matter what was on offer elsewhere because that’s a decision none of them will ever be in a position to have to make. McLeish did what any aspiring, ambitious manager would have done so let’s be spared of this shortbread tin thumping and focus instead on the job in hand. That’s why, when the country was battling with the Beast of the East, the Scotland manager was in Greater Manchester to open talks with McTominay on Thursday of last week. He was able to use his experience and his extensive contact book to speak directly with Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho and set up a face-to-face with the 21-year-old at the club’s Carrington HQ. That he managed to get himself sat down with McTominay a full 24 hours before Southgate had pulled up a seat at the same table, should come as a hugely encouraging sign to those who may have doubts or concerns over his readiness for the position. McLeish acted swiftly and professionally to get this conversation started and McTominay and Mourinho must have been impressed by his determination to barge Scotland to the front of the queue. Big Eck will have made him feel wanted and that could swing it in Scotland’s favour if he has not been made to feel as valued by the country of his birth. Also, at no point during their talks was McLeish given reason to doubt McTominay’s sincerity or his willingness to consider pulling on a dark blue shirt. At no point did it feel like a wasted trip. And, given the reputation this kid is busy building that should come as an almighty compliment to McLeish and Scottish football. Let’s remember what we are dealing with here – a player who has burst onto the scene under one of the greatest club managers in history and who is keeping £90million French ace Paul Pogba out of the starting 11. Think about that for a second. Mourinho thinks this kid is even better than Pogba? It wasn’t so long ago Scotland was capping Paul Telfer. Seasoned United observers are already comparing him to a younger version of Nemanja Matic. He may or may not go on to deliver on all of this potential but that’s not McLeish’s responsibility. No, all he can do is focus on the here and now and attempt to convince McTominay that Scotland’s wilderness years may be coming to and end and that together they can do something meaningful, maybe even historic. With the likes of Liverpool’s Andy Robertson and Celtic’s Kieran Tierney around him, McTominay may believe he is getting in on something exciting and vibrant. That’s why McLeish will hope to shake hands on a pact after United’s meeting with Crystal Palace tonight. Even if it should fall through at the 11th hour the Scotland boss can hardly be held responsible. On the contrary, he should be congratulated for getting so close. But if McTominay does say yes, McLeish’s second term will be off to a flyer. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/recruiting-manchester-united-star-scott-12126530
Or even Graham Murty, who won more caps, and more recently than Telfer.
It was a moronic comment on so many levels. Garry Kenneth and Ian Black always stick out to me as players who should never have been capped, they’ve spent most of their careers failing to impress in the lower leagues and now play Junior football. Ooft, Garry Kenneth. So many members of that U19 Euro final side are completely washed up, and they're all younger than Scott Brown. In comparison, every single member of the Spanish team from that final has gone on to play regular top-flight football in Spain or elsewhere in Europe at worst.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Recruiting Manchester United star Scott McTominay will justify Alex McLeish's appointment without a ball being kicked - JacksonThe 21-year-old midfielder is believed to have committed his international future to Scotland. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson He'll be at Selhurst Park tonight looking for another nibble at Scott McTominay’s ear and confirmation that the Manchester United youngster really has chosen Scotland over England. And if Alex McLeish can pull this one off then he’ll have justified his own appointment as national boss without a single ball having been kicked. Late yesterday afternoon word was filtering out of Old Trafford that McTominay’s mind has been made up and the Scotland boss has successfully talked him into defecting from his homeland to that of his Glaswegian father. This came as something of a surprise to McLeish who was still waiting patiently to meet up with the player again in London tonight. But if it is true that one of English football’s most highly-rated emerging talents has chosen Big Eck over Gareth Southgate then McLeish may have done our country a favour which will last for many years after his own second stint in the hotseat is over. In other words, he could not have got off to a more impressive start even before he’s named his first squad for the friendlies against Costa Rica and Hungary. There’s no doubt about it, the horrendously meat-headed way in which the SFA went about sacking Gordon Strachan and then selecting McLeish as his successor had created significant doubts over the new man before he’s even slipped back into his old tracksuit. That’s hugely unfair on him as the victim of boardroom politics after being championed by Alan McRae and Rod Petrie, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of Hampden’s sixth floor. Throw into that mix McRae somehow managing to talk Walter Smith out of a job he was unexpectedly willing to accept and it’s little wonder there was a feeling of national antipathy towards McLeish’s big unveiling. While Smith took one look at the credentials of the men he’d be working for and chose to bolt shut the front door of his retirement home, he was only too willing to usher them inside for a cosy chat. There was always a danger in all this that McLeish – having been unemployed for two years and not managed in British football since 2013 – would be seen as almost desperate for the offer. But so what if was? Isn’t that one of the very first criteria we ought to be looking for when it comes to picking a Scotland manager? Someone who actually wants to be here? Of course, there are others who point to the decision McLeish made to abandon ship back in 2007 when he resigned from the role after only a handful of games in charge in order to muscle his way into the English top flight and a job at Birmingham City. These strident nationalists would have had him stopped at the border and turned away for this act of treason and they will not be doing a Highland jig at having him back in charge now. But what they saw as desertion was, in reality, the actions of man doing nothing more treacherous than looking after his own career. It’s all very well for the Tartan Army diehards to say they would never leave the Scotland job no matter what was on offer elsewhere because that’s a decision none of them will ever be in a position to have to make. McLeish did what any aspiring, ambitious manager would have done so let’s be spared of this shortbread tin thumping and focus instead on the job in hand. That’s why, when the country was battling with the Beast of the East, the Scotland manager was in Greater Manchester to open talks with McTominay on Thursday of last week. He was able to use his experience and his extensive contact book to speak directly with Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho and set up a face-to-face with the 21-year-old at the club’s Carrington HQ. That he managed to get himself sat down with McTominay a full 24 hours before Southgate had pulled up a seat at the same table, should come as a hugely encouraging sign to those who may have doubts or concerns over his readiness for the position. McLeish acted swiftly and professionally to get this conversation started and McTominay and Mourinho must have been impressed by his determination to barge Scotland to the front of the queue. Big Eck will have made him feel wanted and that could swing it in Scotland’s favour if he has not been made to feel as valued by the country of his birth. Also, at no point during their talks was McLeish given reason to doubt McTominay’s sincerity or his willingness to consider pulling on a dark blue shirt. At no point did it feel like a wasted trip. And, given the reputation this kid is busy building that should come as an almighty compliment to McLeish and Scottish football. Let’s remember what we are dealing with here – a player who has burst onto the scene under one of the greatest club managers in history and who is keeping £90million French ace Paul Pogba out of the starting 11. Think about that for a second. Mourinho thinks this kid is even better than Pogba? It wasn’t so long ago Scotland was capping Paul Telfer. Seasoned United observers are already comparing him to a younger version of Nemanja Matic. He may or may not go on to deliver on all of this potential but that’s not McLeish’s responsibility. No, all he can do is focus on the here and now and attempt to convince McTominay that Scotland’s wilderness years may be coming to and end and that together they can do something meaningful, maybe even historic. With the likes of Liverpool’s Andy Robertson and Celtic’s Kieran Tierney around him, McTominay may believe he is getting in on something exciting and vibrant. That’s why McLeish will hope to shake hands on a pact after United’s meeting with Crystal Palace tonight. Even if it should fall through at the 11th hour the Scotland boss can hardly be held responsible. On the contrary, he should be congratulated for getting so close. But if McTominay does say yes, McLeish’s second term will be off to a flyer. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/recruiting-manchester-united-star-scott-12126530
It was a moronic comment on so many levels. Garry Kenneth and Ian Black always stick out to me as players who should never have been capped, they’ve spent most of their careers failing to impress in the lower leagues and now play Junior football.
Ooft, Garry Kenneth. So many members of that U19 Euro final side are completely washed up, and they're all younger than Scott Brown. In comparison, every single member of the Spanish team from that final has gone on to play regular top-flight football in Spain or elsewhere in Europe at worst. and the most capped player from the team is Mikey McGlinchey im sure with over 50 caps for New Zealand
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Recruiting Manchester United star Scott McTominay will justify Alex McLeish's appointment without a ball being kicked - JacksonThe 21-year-old midfielder is believed to have committed his international future to Scotland. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson He'll be at Selhurst Park tonight looking for another nibble at Scott McTominay’s ear and confirmation that the Manchester United youngster really has chosen Scotland over England. And if Alex McLeish can pull this one off then he’ll have justified his own appointment as national boss without a single ball having been kicked. Late yesterday afternoon word was filtering out of Old Trafford that McTominay’s mind has been made up and the Scotland boss has successfully talked him into defecting from his homeland to that of his Glaswegian father. This came as something of a surprise to McLeish who was still waiting patiently to meet up with the player again in London tonight. But if it is true that one of English football’s most highly-rated emerging talents has chosen Big Eck over Gareth Southgate then McLeish may have done our country a favour which will last for many years after his own second stint in the hotseat is over. In other words, he could not have got off to a more impressive start even before he’s named his first squad for the friendlies against Costa Rica and Hungary. There’s no doubt about it, the horrendously meat-headed way in which the SFA went about sacking Gordon Strachan and then selecting McLeish as his successor had created significant doubts over the new man before he’s even slipped back into his old tracksuit. That’s hugely unfair on him as the victim of boardroom politics after being championed by Alan McRae and Rod Petrie, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of Hampden’s sixth floor. Throw into that mix McRae somehow managing to talk Walter Smith out of a job he was unexpectedly willing to accept and it’s little wonder there was a feeling of national antipathy towards McLeish’s big unveiling. While Smith took one look at the credentials of the men he’d be working for and chose to bolt shut the front door of his retirement home, he was only too willing to usher them inside for a cosy chat. There was always a danger in all this that McLeish – having been unemployed for two years and not managed in British football since 2013 – would be seen as almost desperate for the offer. But so what if was? Isn’t that one of the very first criteria we ought to be looking for when it comes to picking a Scotland manager? Someone who actually wants to be here? Of course, there are others who point to the decision McLeish made to abandon ship back in 2007 when he resigned from the role after only a handful of games in charge in order to muscle his way into the English top flight and a job at Birmingham City. These strident nationalists would have had him stopped at the border and turned away for this act of treason and they will not be doing a Highland jig at having him back in charge now. But what they saw as desertion was, in reality, the actions of man doing nothing more treacherous than looking after his own career. It’s all very well for the Tartan Army diehards to say they would never leave the Scotland job no matter what was on offer elsewhere because that’s a decision none of them will ever be in a position to have to make. McLeish did what any aspiring, ambitious manager would have done so let’s be spared of this shortbread tin thumping and focus instead on the job in hand. That’s why, when the country was battling with the Beast of the East, the Scotland manager was in Greater Manchester to open talks with McTominay on Thursday of last week. He was able to use his experience and his extensive contact book to speak directly with Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho and set up a face-to-face with the 21-year-old at the club’s Carrington HQ. That he managed to get himself sat down with McTominay a full 24 hours before Southgate had pulled up a seat at the same table, should come as a hugely encouraging sign to those who may have doubts or concerns over his readiness for the position. McLeish acted swiftly and professionally to get this conversation started and McTominay and Mourinho must have been impressed by his determination to barge Scotland to the front of the queue. Big Eck will have made him feel wanted and that could swing it in Scotland’s favour if he has not been made to feel as valued by the country of his birth. Also, at no point during their talks was McLeish given reason to doubt McTominay’s sincerity or his willingness to consider pulling on a dark blue shirt. At no point did it feel like a wasted trip. And, given the reputation this kid is busy building that should come as an almighty compliment to McLeish and Scottish football. Let’s remember what we are dealing with here – a player who has burst onto the scene under one of the greatest club managers in history and who is keeping £90million French ace Paul Pogba out of the starting 11. Think about that for a second. Mourinho thinks this kid is even better than Pogba? It wasn’t so long ago Scotland was capping Paul Telfer. Seasoned United observers are already comparing him to a younger version of Nemanja Matic. He may or may not go on to deliver on all of this potential but that’s not McLeish’s responsibility. No, all he can do is focus on the here and now and attempt to convince McTominay that Scotland’s wilderness years may be coming to and end and that together they can do something meaningful, maybe even historic. With the likes of Liverpool’s Andy Robertson and Celtic’s Kieran Tierney around him, McTominay may believe he is getting in on something exciting and vibrant. That’s why McLeish will hope to shake hands on a pact after United’s meeting with Crystal Palace tonight. Even if it should fall through at the 11th hour the Scotland boss can hardly be held responsible. On the contrary, he should be congratulated for getting so close. But if McTominay does say yes, McLeish’s second term will be off to a flyer. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/recruiting-manchester-united-star-scott-12126530
It was a moronic comment on so many levels. Garry Kenneth and Ian Black always stick out to me as players who should never have been capped, they’ve spent most of their careers failing to impress in the lower leagues and now play Junior football.
Ooft, Garry Kenneth. So many members of that U19 Euro final side are completely washed up, and they're all younger than Scott Brown. In comparison, every single member of the Spanish team from that final has gone on to play regular top-flight football in Spain or elsewhere in Europe at worst. Oi, the Sevco captain played in that final, he’s still going str...aye I see what you mean.
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