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5 Mar 2018, 09:58 PM
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Charlie Nicholas in the record slamming Scott McTominay's decision to play for Scotland
"He looks a decent player but we haven't really seen anything special yet so when he comes up here with his English accent he'll have to really prove he is worth his place."
Only Nicholas would be negative about a good player choosing to play for Scotland.
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5 Mar 2018, 10:18 PM
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Some people think Pep might be a bit of a hypocrite
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/manchester-citys-guardiola-ducks-questions-uae-rights-after-catalan-ribbon-protest-1382892782
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5 Mar 2018, 10:20 PM
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Paul Telfer was a solid unspectacular right back for us for a few years & rarely let us down in big Champions League games. His problem was that he followed Didier Agathe a swashbuckling fans favourite.
Jackson referencing him in in his article is bizarre to say the least.
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5 Mar 2018, 10:26 PM
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Keith Jackson banging the drum for McLeish. Recruiting Manchester United star Scott McTominay will justify Alex McLeish's appointment without a ball being kicked - JacksonThe 21-year-old midfielder is believed to have committed his international future to Scotland. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson He'll be at Selhurst Park tonight looking for another nibble at Scott McTominay’s ear and confirmation that the Manchester United youngster really has chosen Scotland over England. And if Alex McLeish can pull this one off then he’ll have justified his own appointment as national boss without a single ball having been kicked. Late yesterday afternoon word was filtering out of Old Trafford that McTominay’s mind has been made up and the Scotland boss has successfully talked him into defecting from his homeland to that of his Glaswegian father. This came as something of a surprise to McLeish who was still waiting patiently to meet up with the player again in London tonight. But if it is true that one of English football’s most highly-rated emerging talents has chosen Big Eck over Gareth Southgate then McLeish may have done our country a favour which will last for many years after his own second stint in the hotseat is over. In other words, he could not have got off to a more impressive start even before he’s named his first squad for the friendlies against Costa Rica and Hungary. There’s no doubt about it, the horrendously meat-headed way in which the SFA went about sacking Gordon Strachan and then selecting McLeish as his successor had created significant doubts over the new man before he’s even slipped back into his old tracksuit. That’s hugely unfair on him as the victim of boardroom politics after being championed by Alan McRae and Rod Petrie, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of Hampden’s sixth floor. Throw into that mix McRae somehow managing to talk Walter Smith out of a job he was unexpectedly willing to accept and it’s little wonder there was a feeling of national antipathy towards McLeish’s big unveiling. While Smith took one look at the credentials of the men he’d be working for and chose to bolt shut the front door of his retirement home, he was only too willing to usher them inside for a cosy chat. There was always a danger in all this that McLeish – having been unemployed for two years and not managed in British football since 2013 – would be seen as almost desperate for the offer. But so what if was? Isn’t that one of the very first criteria we ought to be looking for when it comes to picking a Scotland manager? Someone who actually wants to be here? Of course, there are others who point to the decision McLeish made to abandon ship back in 2007 when he resigned from the role after only a handful of games in charge in order to muscle his way into the English top flight and a job at Birmingham City. These strident nationalists would have had him stopped at the border and turned away for this act of treason and they will not be doing a Highland jig at having him back in charge now. But what they saw as desertion was, in reality, the actions of man doing nothing more treacherous than looking after his own career. It’s all very well for the Tartan Army diehards to say they would never leave the Scotland job no matter what was on offer elsewhere because that’s a decision none of them will ever be in a position to have to make. McLeish did what any aspiring, ambitious manager would have done so let’s be spared of this shortbread tin thumping and focus instead on the job in hand. That’s why, when the country was battling with the Beast of the East, the Scotland manager was in Greater Manchester to open talks with McTominay on Thursday of last week. He was able to use his experience and his extensive contact book to speak directly with Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho and set up a face-to-face with the 21-year-old at the club’s Carrington HQ. That he managed to get himself sat down with McTominay a full 24 hours before Southgate had pulled up a seat at the same table, should come as a hugely encouraging sign to those who may have doubts or concerns over his readiness for the position. McLeish acted swiftly and professionally to get this conversation started and McTominay and Mourinho must have been impressed by his determination to barge Scotland to the front of the queue. Big Eck will have made him feel wanted and that could swing it in Scotland’s favour if he has not been made to feel as valued by the country of his birth. Also, at no point during their talks was McLeish given reason to doubt McTominay’s sincerity or his willingness to consider pulling on a dark blue shirt. At no point did it feel like a wasted trip. And, given the reputation this kid is busy building that should come as an almighty compliment to McLeish and Scottish football. Let’s remember what we are dealing with here – a player who has burst onto the scene under one of the greatest club managers in history and who is keeping £90million French ace Paul Pogba out of the starting 11. Think about that for a second. Mourinho thinks this kid is even better than Pogba? It wasn’t so long ago Scotland was capping Paul Telfer. Seasoned United observers are already comparing him to a younger version of Nemanja Matic. He may or may not go on to deliver on all of this potential but that’s not McLeish’s responsibility. No, all he can do is focus on the here and now and attempt to convince McTominay that Scotland’s wilderness years may be coming to and end and that together they can do something meaningful, maybe even historic. With the likes of Liverpool’s Andy Robertson and Celtic’s Kieran Tierney around him, McTominay may believe he is getting in on something exciting and vibrant. That’s why McLeish will hope to shake hands on a pact after United’s meeting with Crystal Palace tonight. Even if it should fall through at the 11th hour the Scotland boss can hardly be held responsible. On the contrary, he should be congratulated for getting so close. But if McTominay does say yes, McLeish’s second term will be off to a flyer. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/recruiting-manchester-united-star-scott-12126530
“It wasn’t that long ago Scotland were picking Paul Telfer” What a strange and snide wee comment. He got capped once and it was actually about 20 years ago, and he spent most of his career playing in the EPL before he won two titles here. There’s been much worse.
Hard to know where to start with the nonsense dripping out of that article. I think it safe to say that Mourinho does not think McTominay is better than Pogba. It's also extremely premature to anoint this player as the cornerstone of our national team in the future after a handful of games. Amazing that someone so gleefully ill informed maintains such a platform to spout such nonsense
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5 Mar 2018, 10:27 PM
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- 5 Mar 2018, 10:18 PM
Pep's a pumpkin.
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5 Mar 2018, 11:23 PM
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- 5 Mar 2018, 10:18 PM
Before I read the article I thought he'd been having a go at Bradley Wiggins.
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5 Mar 2018, 11:56 PM
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6 Mar 2018, 12:14 AM
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Stupid mentioning telfer. Telfer would be more than good to enough to get in this Scotland squad, and I'm by no means a huge fan of him.
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6 Mar 2018, 12:47 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
If Pep was managing in Spain, I could understand why the authorities there would be unhappy. But why on Earth do the FA give an eff? For what it's worth, I don't believe Martin Glenn is anti-Semitic; he is, however, a complete and utter bell-end.
My issue is with the total hypocrisy of his statement. “We don’t want divisive symbols in our game” - except the Poppy, we’ve written that into the rules. The FA also don’t want religious symbols in the game. That means England will need a new flag, national anthem and their training centre needs to be renamed.
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6 Mar 2018, 11:13 AM
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- 5 Mar 2018, 10:20 PM
Paul Telfer was a solid unspectacular right back for us for a few years & rarely let us down in big Champions League games. His problem was that he followed Didier Agathe a swashbuckling fans favourite.
Jackson referencing him in in his article is bizarre to say the least. Agree, he did a great unspectacular job for us and would run up that wing time after time.
Was a real professional who never caused and hassle and just got on with playing for Celtic well.
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6 Mar 2018, 12:55 PM
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Paul Telfer was a solid unspectacular right back for us for a few years & rarely let us down in big Champions League games. His problem was that he followed Didier Agathe a swashbuckling fans favourite.
Jackson referencing him in in his article is bizarre to say the least.
Agree, he did a great unspectacular job for us and would run up that wing time after time. Was a real professional who never caused and hassle and just got on with playing for Celtic well. And unless I am wrong, this English lad from Man U has achieved the square root of eff all in his career to date.
Then again, Keith Jackson is a complete arsehole and we should expect nothing less.
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6 Mar 2018, 12:57 PM
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listening to bbc scotland sportsound podcast from last night - darryl broadfoot first domestic pressure in last 2 yrs for celtic blah blah blah
wetting himself at thought of huns
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6 Mar 2018, 01:37 PM
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Paul Telfer was a solid unspectacular right back for us for a few years & rarely let us down in big Champions League games. His problem was that he followed Didier Agathe a swashbuckling fans favourite.
Jackson referencing him in in his article is bizarre to say the least.
Agree, he did a great unspectacular job for us and would run up that wing time after time. Was a real professional who never caused and hassle and just got on with playing for Celtic well. Gave Nakamura the space to be Nakamura.
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6 Mar 2018, 01:44 PM
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Charlie Nicholas in the record slamming Scott McTominay's decision to play for Scotland
"He looks a decent player but we haven't really seen anything special yet so when he comes up here with his English accent he'll have to really prove he is worth his place."
One of the most stupid things in a while. Both the accent comment and that he has to prove he is worth his place- he's not competing with Iniesta in the Scotland squad.
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6 Mar 2018, 01:51 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Recruiting Manchester United star Scott McTominay will justify Alex McLeish's appointment without a ball being kicked - JacksonThe 21-year-old midfielder is believed to have committed his international future to Scotland. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson He'll be at Selhurst Park tonight looking for another nibble at Scott McTominay’s ear and confirmation that the Manchester United youngster really has chosen Scotland over England. And if Alex McLeish can pull this one off then he’ll have justified his own appointment as national boss without a single ball having been kicked. Late yesterday afternoon word was filtering out of Old Trafford that McTominay’s mind has been made up and the Scotland boss has successfully talked him into defecting from his homeland to that of his Glaswegian father. This came as something of a surprise to McLeish who was still waiting patiently to meet up with the player again in London tonight. But if it is true that one of English football’s most highly-rated emerging talents has chosen Big Eck over Gareth Southgate then McLeish may have done our country a favour which will last for many years after his own second stint in the hotseat is over. In other words, he could not have got off to a more impressive start even before he’s named his first squad for the friendlies against Costa Rica and Hungary. There’s no doubt about it, the horrendously meat-headed way in which the SFA went about sacking Gordon Strachan and then selecting McLeish as his successor had created significant doubts over the new man before he’s even slipped back into his old tracksuit. That’s hugely unfair on him as the victim of boardroom politics after being championed by Alan McRae and Rod Petrie, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of Hampden’s sixth floor. Throw into that mix McRae somehow managing to talk Walter Smith out of a job he was unexpectedly willing to accept and it’s little wonder there was a feeling of national antipathy towards McLeish’s big unveiling. While Smith took one look at the credentials of the men he’d be working for and chose to bolt shut the front door of his retirement home, he was only too willing to usher them inside for a cosy chat. There was always a danger in all this that McLeish – having been unemployed for two years and not managed in British football since 2013 – would be seen as almost desperate for the offer. But so what if was? Isn’t that one of the very first criteria we ought to be looking for when it comes to picking a Scotland manager? Someone who actually wants to be here? Of course, there are others who point to the decision McLeish made to abandon ship back in 2007 when he resigned from the role after only a handful of games in charge in order to muscle his way into the English top flight and a job at Birmingham City. These strident nationalists would have had him stopped at the border and turned away for this act of treason and they will not be doing a Highland jig at having him back in charge now. But what they saw as desertion was, in reality, the actions of man doing nothing more treacherous than looking after his own career. It’s all very well for the Tartan Army diehards to say they would never leave the Scotland job no matter what was on offer elsewhere because that’s a decision none of them will ever be in a position to have to make. McLeish did what any aspiring, ambitious manager would have done so let’s be spared of this shortbread tin thumping and focus instead on the job in hand. That’s why, when the country was battling with the Beast of the East, the Scotland manager was in Greater Manchester to open talks with McTominay on Thursday of last week. He was able to use his experience and his extensive contact book to speak directly with Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho and set up a face-to-face with the 21-year-old at the club’s Carrington HQ. That he managed to get himself sat down with McTominay a full 24 hours before Southgate had pulled up a seat at the same table, should come as a hugely encouraging sign to those who may have doubts or concerns over his readiness for the position. McLeish acted swiftly and professionally to get this conversation started and McTominay and Mourinho must have been impressed by his determination to barge Scotland to the front of the queue. Big Eck will have made him feel wanted and that could swing it in Scotland’s favour if he has not been made to feel as valued by the country of his birth. Also, at no point during their talks was McLeish given reason to doubt McTominay’s sincerity or his willingness to consider pulling on a dark blue shirt. At no point did it feel like a wasted trip. And, given the reputation this kid is busy building that should come as an almighty compliment to McLeish and Scottish football. Let’s remember what we are dealing with here – a player who has burst onto the scene under one of the greatest club managers in history and who is keeping £90million French ace Paul Pogba out of the starting 11. Think about that for a second. Mourinho thinks this kid is even better than Pogba? It wasn’t so long ago Scotland was capping Paul Telfer. Seasoned United observers are already comparing him to a younger version of Nemanja Matic. He may or may not go on to deliver on all of this potential but that’s not McLeish’s responsibility. No, all he can do is focus on the here and now and attempt to convince McTominay that Scotland’s wilderness years may be coming to and end and that together they can do something meaningful, maybe even historic. With the likes of Liverpool’s Andy Robertson and Celtic’s Kieran Tierney around him, McTominay may believe he is getting in on something exciting and vibrant. That’s why McLeish will hope to shake hands on a pact after United’s meeting with Crystal Palace tonight. Even if it should fall through at the 11th hour the Scotland boss can hardly be held responsible. On the contrary, he should be congratulated for getting so close. But if McTominay does say yes, McLeish’s second term will be off to a flyer. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/recruiting-manchester-united-star-scott-12126530
Hard to know where to start with the nonsense dripping out of that article. I think it safe to say that Mourinho does not think McTominay is better than Pogba. It's also extremely premature to anoint this player as the cornerstone of our national team in the future after a handful of games.
Amazing that someone so gleefully ill informed maintains such a platform to spout such nonsense Apart from all the other glaring problems with that article, he doesn't even have his basic premise correct - Malky McKay and various other SFA officials have been talking to this lad for at least a couple of months before McLeish was even given the job. McLeish has had feck all to do with the lad opting to play for Scotland, he's just come in for the glory lap and got his mate to try and spin some good PR for him.
If indeed the lad does go on to be a decent addition to the Scotland squad I suspect the person who really deserves any praise for getting him to choose Scotland is his old man
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6 Mar 2018, 04:55 PM
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Words fail me on this article on Wee Jay....
I know from people and family in the North of Ireland that the Telegraph has OO leanings and is no friend of the nationalist community but quite what an innocent wee bhoy with a disability with as much love and hope as any human on the planet is compared to a hateful & archaic mob like them I cannot fathom.
The fact that a large newspaper in the North even give them complimentary paper space says it all in regards to how far out of reality the place can be in 2018.
Lots of good/great people up there but words fail me that they get column space.
Gail Walker even uses the word "hope"...oh the irony!
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/gail-walker/picture-of-celtic-fan-jay-beattie-and-loyal-order-shows-theres-hope-for-our-future-if-we-want-it-36673423.html
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6 Mar 2018, 05:21 PM
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Maybe because I don't live in Ireland but I read it and couldn't see where the offence comes from?
I just saw it as something to be congratulated and well done to those who raised the money for such a good cause.
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6 Mar 2018, 05:27 PM
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Sir Knight Richard Dunlop, Worshipful Master. What a fecking title
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6 Mar 2018, 05:40 PM
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Nicholas' comments are pretty stupid - even by his own standards. The boy isn't Scottish because of his accent?
Apparently he also said if he had any faith in his ability he'd choose to play for England. I'm not sure it's McTominay who's forgotten where he's from.
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6 Mar 2018, 05:49 PM
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Paul Telfer was a solid unspectacular right back for us for a few years & rarely let us down in big Champions League games. His problem was that he followed Didier Agathe a swashbuckling fans favourite.
Jackson referencing him in in his article is bizarre to say the least.
Agree, he did a great unspectacular job for us and would run up that wing time after time. Was a real professional who never caused and hassle and just got on with playing for Celtic well.
Gave Nakamura the space to be Nakamura. Did Nakamura not say that he was one of the best players he has played with because he was either next to him, behind him or in front of him?
I think Nakamura, as you have said Otis, liked Telfer as it allowed him to play like Nakamura we all loved.
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