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Do these choppers conveniently forget the amount a times the blue cafu has cost them goals and games. Scottish cup final and the other week v hibs off the top of my head. Had a mare v killie at Xmas, and been at fault for any number of goals we've scored into them last 18 month. He's never a right back. They are so desperate for a hero they will leech on to anybody.
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How to pish all over a good Celtic result in Europe, by Davie Provan. :brickwall:

But that Tavernier, tore Ayr United apart so he did. What a player. :lol:
Aye, lets ignore all the goals Sevco have lost at the back post thanks to the aforesaid Tavernier. No mention of the McLeish appointment - could it be that McLeish is one of Davie's mates ?

As for the rest of Provan's article, the same Zenit who are second in the Russian league and who walked their Europa League group. But they're rank rotten so they are. FFS thats the kind of nonsense I would expect from Graham Parks.
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Including those whose livelihoods are at stake? Not everyone who gets paid a wage by Trinity Mirror is a hun with a laptop.
It just feels that way. Especially their sports and editorial teams over the years.
I hope someone sends a hearse outside their premesies. Long Memory CSC.
I also have a long memory and one that remembers vividly the wider impact of a major employer going to the wall. Whilst their editorial content is unpopular here, it represents a fraction of the people involved in the production, distribution and selling of their products on a daily basis.

There are respected posters on here who either work directly for Trinity Mirror or are dependent on them for the consumption of their services. I’m not one of them but am not blind to the bigger picture. I also know of small businesses in the Glasgow area who are reliant on the reach of the Record and Sunday Mail to advertise their products. They operate on very small margins and any demise would have serious implications for their operating models.

I don’t expect to change the attitudes of the ‘eff them’ posters on here but merely offering a broader perspective. It isn’t all about Keith Jackson and his ilk.
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How to pish all over a good Celtic result in Europe, by Davie Provan. :brickwall:

But that Tavernier, tore Ayr United apart so he did. What a player. :lol:
Aye, lets ignore all the goals Sevco have lost at the back post thanks to the aforesaid Tavernier. No mention of the McLeish appointment - could it be that McLeish is one of Davie's mates ?

As for the rest of Provan's article, the same Zenit who are second in the Russian league and who walked their Europa League group. But they're rank rotten so they are. FFS thats the kind of nonsense I would expect from Graham Parks.
FFS - McLeish has a lot of mates for a zoomer!

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Some revealing posts on this thread.

There was one ‘serves them right for taking the King’s shilling’. Unless I’m mistaken, there will be quite a lot of folk who ‘take the King’s shilling’. You might have worked in a nationalised industry, where your line manager was Margaret Thatcher who waged war on the working class. Or you might have been a civil servant when Tony Blair was going all gung-ho in the Middle East, after which hundreds of thousands of people died. Maybe you work as a cog in the machine for a company that makes parts for the bombs that obliterate children from the sky and blow up family weddings. Or you’re based at Faslane in a job that could ultimately lead to the mass destruction of the human race. No big deal there!

There seems to be a moral judgement to working in the media that doesn’t really apply to many other jobs when redundancies are being discussed. Jobs going in the rigs? Aye, but serves them right because they’re raping the planet, contributing to global warming and facilitating the early deaths of tens of thousands a year through particle pollution. Don’t really hear much of that when it comes to job losses and the wider threat to the economy.

But, hey, eff them, they should have got a job as a scientist or an engineer or in a call centre, because there was a hearse sent to the club 20 years ago (an idiotic idea, but I suspect the person responsible is nowhere near that position now). The club also seems to have got over it, as they have with other stories, Thugs and Thieves being a prime example, and they continue to work with the paper – and all other papers – who have caused the club friction over the years, because ultimately it’s to their mutual benefit.

And it’s been to the fans’ benefit too. Save Our Celts and Celts for Change both used the ‘anti-Celtic’ media well, with the former saying they went from meeting a ‘hostile reception’ from fans, to a situation a few years later where the history of the club was secured, while those who had ran it into the ground were ousted.

People make editorial mistakes. I would say the Celtic View probably made one with the Paddy McCourt front page a few years ago. But life moves on, in some cases.

There seems to be a bit of a fanaticism when it comes to the echo chamber of the internet, and it’s not restricted to followers of a specific club – even if they do provide plenty of examples. This whole ‘eff the MSM’ thing has taken off and is all over Twitter and Facebook whenever just about anything is discussed (from all sides in arguments) and has even found a spiritual leader in the shape of Donald Trump.
Locally, I didn’t like a lot of the coverage of independence referendum either, and I can see why people get narked, so it’s not a defence of that. But there seems to be the equivalent of Salman Rushdie bookburning going on with people looking forward to the day a paper they wouldn’t wipe their arse with no longer exists.

As mentioned earlier, I’m not saying rush out and buy a paper. But the point was made by someone that Theresa May would of course be in favour of papers being saved when 90% of the media is right wing anyway. So one less left wing paper/organisation benefits who exactly? The people who buy tabloids will continue to do so. They will just start buying the Sun or the Daily Mail and, as was also previously noted by another poster, they’ll be sure to keep an eye out for your best interests.

So I’d say it’s a problem for society when these things start going down the pan, because once they’re gone it’s unlikely that they’re ever coming back. And that makes it easier for despots and tyrants to do what they like. Whether people like what’s being written or said, or not, the point is that there’s not much room for a free press in a dictatorship. Does the chief of police resign if there’s no press for whistleblowers to go to? Do the BiFab workers go on a march if there’s no one to bring their story to a wider audience? Does the only bank in your town close down because, even though it’s owned by the taxpayer, it feels no obligation to the community? Does the Government feel compelled to step in if there’s no public pressure? Will there ever be justice for a murdered Emma Caldwell amid allegations of police cover-ups? Will there ever be landmark cases exposing institutional racism and bigotry at the heart of police and other organisations, such as what followed in the wake of Stephen Lawrence’s murder? Will anyone care that rightwing groups are plotting to quite literally have you eating shampoo after Brexit? Will organised crime do in the daylight what they now do in the dark? Will fascist organisations in Britain who are arming themselves be exposed?

Who would carry the interview with former Bury defender Andy Woodward that would lead to the largest ever police investigation into sexual abuse in Britain and would lead to the conviction of serial paedophile Barry Bennell?

Bloggers? Good luck with that.

Every day papers, left and right, will carry stories that are important (they’ll also be full of trash that doesn’t do much for me, and opinions that I don’t particularly like) but those few examples listed above have been championed by some papers whose political slant I really can’t stomach.

Journalists, whether you like them or not, do important work. It’s why the cartel peels off their face and sews it onto a football. It’s why they get shot at traffic lights, have fundamentalists come in and shoot them dead in their place of work, why gangsters throw acid in their face at their home front door. When Alex Thompson isn’t answering the really big question about what to call The Rangers (and leaving people ‘disappointed’) he’s in war-torn areas where some of the combatants and governments will happily see him disposed of.

Obviously, little of that is to do with football. That wouldn’t happen in football. Tell that to the family of Rasim Aliyev.

When I was at school, I remember the modern studies teacher saying to read papers you don’t like and listen to views you disagree with. A lot of people seem to detest that principle going by posts on here and elsewhere. Aye, but a hearse, eff them. Long memory CSC. Should have got another job.

From accountants to blue collar workers, there might be a hearse coming to your place of work too. Driven by a robot that will probably be able to say Solidarnosc in an ironic voice while telling you that you should have done something else and, what, didn't you see it coming? In a couple of years, you probably won’t read about that, or the repercussions to the place you live and the people’s lives who have been affected. Unless it’s on a forum or you’re following @firstwitdanews on Twitter, or whatever comes after it.
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Thats a great post Ned.
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Bravo Ned. Outstanding piece.
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Some revealing posts on this thread.

There was one ‘serves them right for taking the King’s shilling’. Unless I’m mistaken, there will be quite a lot of folk who ‘take the King’s shilling’. You might have worked in a nationalised industry, where your line manager was Margaret Thatcher who waged war on the working class. Or you might have been a civil servant when Tony Blair was going all gung-ho in the Middle East, after which hundreds of thousands of people died. Maybe you work as a cog in the machine for a company that makes parts for the bombs that obliterate children from the sky and blow up family weddings. Or you’re based at Faslane in a job that could ultimately lead to the mass destruction of the human race. No big deal there!

There seems to be a moral judgement to working in the media that doesn’t really apply to many other jobs when redundancies are being discussed. Jobs going in the rigs? Aye, but serves them right because they’re raping the planet, contributing to global warming and facilitating the early deaths of tens of thousands a year through particle pollution. Don’t really hear much of that when it comes to job losses and the wider threat to the economy.

But, hey, eff them, they should have got a job as a scientist or an engineer or in a call centre, because there was a hearse sent to the club 20 years ago (an idiotic idea, but I suspect the person responsible is nowhere near that position now). The club also seems to have got over it, as they have with other stories, Thugs and Thieves being a prime example, and they continue to work with the paper – and all other papers – who have caused the club friction over the years, because ultimately it’s to their mutual benefit.

And it’s been to the fans’ benefit too. Celts for Change got the media on its side. Save Our Celts and Celts for Change both used the ‘anti-Celtic’ media well, with the former saying they went from meeting a ‘hostile reception’ from fans, to a situation a few years later where the history of the club was secured, while those who had ran it into the ground were ousted.

People make editorial mistakes. I would say the Celtic View probably made one with the Paddy McCourt front page a few years ago. But life moves on, in some cases.

There seems to be a bit of a fanaticism when it comes to the echo chamber of the internet, and it’s not restricted to followers of a specific club – even if they do provide plenty of examples. This whole ‘eff the MSM’ thing has taken off and is all over Twitter and Facebook whenever just about anything is discussed (from all sides in arguments) and has even found a spiritual leader in the shape of Donald Trump.
Locally, I didn’t like a lot of the coverage of independence referendum either, and I can see why people get narked, so it’s not a defence of that. But there seems to be the equivalent of Salman Rushdie bookburning going on with people looking forward to the day a paper they wouldn’t wipe their arse with no longer exists.

As mentioned earlier, I’m not saying rush out and buy a paper. But the point was made by someone that Theresa May would of course be in favour of papers being saved when 90% of the media is right wing anyway. So one less left wing paper/organisation benefits who exactly? The people who buy tabloids will continue to do so. They will just start buying the Sun or the Daily Mail and, as was also previously noted by another poster, they’ll be sure to keep an eye out for your best interests.

So I’d say it’s a problem for society when these things start going down the pan, because once they’re gone it’s unlikely that they’re ever coming back. And that makes it easier for despots and tyrants to do what they like. Whether people like what’s being written or said, or not, the point is that there’s not much room for a free press in a dictatorship. Does the chief of police resign if there’s no press for whistleblowers to go to? Do the BiFab workers go on a march if there’s no one to bring their story to a wider audience? Does the only bank in your town close down because, even though it’s owned by the taxpayer, it feels no obligation to the community? Does the Government feel compelled to step in if there’s no public pressure? Will there ever be justice for a murdered Emma Caldwell amid allegations of police cover-ups? Will there ever be landmark cases exposing institutional racism and bigotry at the heart of police and other organisations, such as what followed in the wake of Stephen Lawrence’s murder? Will anyone care that rightwing groups are plotting to quite literally have you eating shampoo after Brexit? Will organised crime do in the daylight what they now do in the dark? Will fascist organisations in Britain who are arming themselves be exposed?

Who would carry the interview with former Bury defender Andy Woodward that would lead to the largest ever police investigation into sexual abuse in Britain and would lead to the conviction of serial paedophile Barry Bennell?

Bloggers? Good luck with that.

Every day papers, left and right, will carry stories that are important (they’ll also be full of trash that doesn’t do much for me, and opinions that I don’t particularly like) but those few examples listed above have been championed by some papers whose political slant I really can’t stomach.

Journalists, whether you like them or not, do important work. It’s why the cartel peels off their face and sews it onto a football. It’s why they get shot at traffic lights, have fundamentalists come in and shoot them dead in their place of work, why gangsters throw acid in their face at their home front door. When Alex Thompson isn’t answering the really big question about what to call The Rangers (and leaving people ‘disappointed’) he’s in war-torn areas where some of the combatants and governments will happily see him disposed of.

Obviously, little of that is to do with football. That wouldn’t happen in football. Tell that to the family of Rasim Aliyev.

When I was at school, I remember the modern studies teacher saying to read papers you don’t like and listen to views you disagree with. A lot of people seem to detest that principle going by posts on here and elsewhere. Aye, but a hearse, eff them. Long memory CSC. Should have got another job.

From accountants to blue collar workers, there might be a hearse coming to your place of work too. Driven by a robot that will probably be able to say Solidarnosc in an ironic voice while telling you that you should have done something else and, what, didn't you see it coming? In a couple of years, you probably won’t read about that, or the repercussions to the place you live and the people’s lives who have been affected. Unless it’s on a forum or you’re following @firstwitdanews on Twitter, or whatever comes after it.
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Well said Ned. It appears our posts were being written at the same time.
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It just feels that way. Especially their sports and editorial teams over the years.
I hope someone sends a hearse outside their premesies. Long Memory CSC.
I also have a long memory and one that remembers vividly the wider impact of a major employer going to the wall. Whilst their editorial content is unpopular here, it represents a fraction of the people involved in the production, distribution and selling of their products on a daily basis.

There are respected posters on here who either work directly for Trinity Mirror or are dependent on them for the consumption of their services. I’m not one of them but am not blind to the bigger picture. I also know of small businesses in the Glasgow area who are reliant on the reach of the Record and Sunday Mail to advertise their products. They operate on very small margins and any demise would have serious implications for their operating models.

I don’t expect to change the attitudes of the ‘eff them’ posters on here but merely offering a broader perspective. It isn’t all about Keith Jackson and his ilk.
I don't belong to the "eff them" camp, but I do believe the Record's sales figures are suffering from a long list of very poor editorial decisions. Pissing off football fans is a large part of it, but their ill advised vocal pro-Union stance during the Independence referendum was stupidly partisan and could only lose readers. They're now trying to address Murray Foote's poor decision making, but in a rapidly declining market it may be too late.

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Terrific post, Ned. It deserves a better platform than this. :thumbsup:
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Best post in a long time , Ned . well played.
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In the media’s defence, both Radio Scotland and the Herald acknowledging Windass is first *Rangers* player to score a hat trick in the Premiership
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How to pish all over a good Celtic result in Europe, by Davie Provan. :brickwall:

But that Tavernier, tore Ayr United apart so he did. What a player. :lol:
Aye, lets ignore all the goals Sevco have lost at the back post thanks to the aforesaid Tavernier. No mention of the McLeish appointment - could it be that McLeish is one of Davie's mates ?

As for the rest of Provan's article, the same Zenit who are second in the Russian league and who walked their Europa League group. But they're rank rotten so they are. FFS thats the kind of nonsense I would expect from Graham Parks.
Some context for Provan's article:

Result in Russia would be fillip for Celtic, Scotland and youths
Tam McManus
Herald columnist



As the dust settled last Thursday evening on Celtic’s narrow but richly deserved 1-0 victory over Russian powerhouses Zenit St Petersburg, the punters must have filed out of Parkhead with a fresh sense of optimism of getting into the last 16 of the Europa League.

It was a wonderful performance full of technical and tactical quality. It was a much-needed shot in the arm not only for Celtic but for the whole of Scottish football.

Celtic haven’t been at it for long spells this season but they went from the first whistle against the Russians and looked back to the standards set last season.

I have always been one to talk up our game in general because I think we have a better product domestically than most give us credit for, but you need results at the sharp end of European football to validate that.

Rangers losing to Progrès and St Johnstone going out to FK Trakai hurt the reputation of our game massively. Celtic have taken some hammerings, admittedly from top opposition, but the Anderlecht defeat would have been the one that hurt Brendan Rodgers most.

It was the most insipid display I had seen from Celtic in a long time at home in Europe and Rodgers rightly gave his players it afterwards for the lack of quality and bravery in possession they had shown on the night. They had to be better than that. But the win and performance against Zenit has quickly consigned that Anderlecht game to the bin.

They looked right back to their best.

What I was hugely impressed and encouraged by was the performances of three homegrown lads who have come through the Celtic Academy to be trusted in big games by Rodgers. It’s not only fantastic for Celtic but for Scotland too.

I am of course talking about James Forrest, Kieran Tierney and Callum McGregor.

All three had fantastic games last week, particularly McGregor who has now started to win over the vast majority of the fans like Forrest has had to do. I have liked him from when he first broke into the team and always thought he was really underrated by a lot of people. Thankfully people are now realising what a good player he is. Callum has very much developed into a big game player and that is the sign of a great temperament.


What a fillip that game must have been not only for all the young players currently in the Academy but for the coaches at the club too. It lets the young lads at Celtic see that if they work hard and be the elite athlete on and off the pitch that Rodgers demands all his players to be, there is a path through into the first team.

That has not always been the case. It has been a long time since three homegrown players have come through the Celtic system to establish themselves as key players for the club at the highest levels.

As much as Celtic dominated the game and made a very good Zenit side look average, they could be made to pay for not killing the tie off. Zenit have lost just two home games in the Europa League in the last 16 years.

It is a quite staggering home record which will give Zenit and their supporters supreme confidence that they can turn it around inside their new 60,000 seater Krestovsky Stadium. They will still fully expect to go through. They have only failed to score once at home in the last 23 home Europa League ties, stretching back over a decade. Celtic will need to score at least once to get through this tie, I reckon.


No matter how many friendly games you play I know from experience there is no substitute for competitive fixtures. Zenit certainly looked leggy and undercooked in the first leg, but that 90 minutes and extra week’s training will sharpen them up considerably.

For the sake of the whole of Scottish football I really hope Celtic can advance to the last 16. Not only will it expose the young Scottish talent in the Celtic team to more games against top class opponents, but it can change the perception that many have of our domestic game.

It also helps our co-efficient. Make no mistake, Zenit would be a massive scalp for Celtic to take on Thursday night and would make a lot of teams sit up and take notice throughout Europe. Celtic have ploughed a lone furrow for many years now for our game in Europe. Let’s hope they have one more big performance in them in Russia.

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Good post Ned , especially
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Journalists, whether you like them or not, do important work. It’s why the cartel peels off their face and sews it onto a football. It’s why they get shot at traffic lights, have fundamentalists come in and shoot them dead in their place of work, why gangsters throw acid in their face at their home front door. When Alex Thompson isn’t answering the really big question about what to call The Rangers (and leaving people ‘disappointed’) he’s in war-torn areas where some of the combatants and governments will happily see him disposed of."

Unfortunately the Record doesn't employ "Journalists" any more IMO and hasn't done for decades - I don't like being lied to , if someone shampoos in my dinner at a restaurant , I won't be back.

The Record has made it's bed and will have to lie in its own shampoo !
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Daily Record is hardly a fair and balanced paper ffs. Do I have sympathy for those that will lose their job? Yes, of course (Apart from some of the hacks). But by and large it's news content is biased and it's sports content is certainly biased.

It's downfall is it's own doing. I won't shed any tears when it finally goes. I really don't understand why any Celtic fan still buys it.
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Some revealing posts on this thread.

There was one ‘serves them right for taking the King’s shilling’. Unless I’m mistaken, there will be quite a lot of folk who ‘take the King’s shilling’. You might have worked in a nationalised industry, where your line manager was Margaret Thatcher who waged war on the working class. Or you might have been a civil servant when Tony Blair was going all gung-ho in the Middle East, after which hundreds of thousands of people died. Maybe you work as a cog in the machine for a company that makes parts for the bombs that obliterate children from the sky and blow up family weddings. Or you’re based at Faslane in a job that could ultimately lead to the mass destruction of the human race. No big deal there!

There seems to be a moral judgement to working in the media that doesn’t really apply to many other jobs when redundancies are being discussed. Jobs going in the rigs? Aye, but serves them right because they’re raping the planet, contributing to global warming and facilitating the early deaths of tens of thousands a year through particle pollution. Don’t really hear much of that when it comes to job losses and the wider threat to the economy.

But, hey, eff them, they should have got a job as a scientist or an engineer or in a call centre, because there was a hearse sent to the club 20 years ago (an idiotic idea, but I suspect the person responsible is nowhere near that position now). The club also seems to have got over it, as they have with other stories, Thugs and Thieves being a prime example, and they continue to work with the paper – and all other papers – who have caused the club friction over the years, because ultimately it’s to their mutual benefit.

And it’s been to the fans’ benefit too. Save Our Celts and Celts for Change both used the ‘anti-Celtic’ media well, with the former saying they went from meeting a ‘hostile reception’ from fans, to a situation a few years later where the history of the club was secured, while those who had ran it into the ground were ousted.

People make editorial mistakes. I would say the Celtic View probably made one with the Paddy McCourt front page a few years ago. But life moves on, in some cases.

There seems to be a bit of a fanaticism when it comes to the echo chamber of the internet, and it’s not restricted to followers of a specific club – even if they do provide plenty of examples. This whole ‘eff the MSM’ thing has taken off and is all over Twitter and Facebook whenever just about anything is discussed (from all sides in arguments) and has even found a spiritual leader in the shape of Donald Trump.
Locally, I didn’t like a lot of the coverage of independence referendum either, and I can see why people get narked, so it’s not a defence of that. But there seems to be the equivalent of Salman Rushdie bookburning going on with people looking forward to the day a paper they wouldn’t wipe their arse with no longer exists.

As mentioned earlier, I’m not saying rush out and buy a paper. But the point was made by someone that Theresa May would of course be in favour of papers being saved when 90% of the media is right wing anyway. So one less left wing paper/organisation benefits who exactly? The people who buy tabloids will continue to do so. They will just start buying the Sun or the Daily Mail and, as was also previously noted by another poster, they’ll be sure to keep an eye out for your best interests.

So I’d say it’s a problem for society when these things start going down the pan, because once they’re gone it’s unlikely that they’re ever coming back. And that makes it easier for despots and tyrants to do what they like. Whether people like what’s being written or said, or not, the point is that there’s not much room for a free press in a dictatorship. Does the chief of police resign if there’s no press for whistleblowers to go to? Do the BiFab workers go on a march if there’s no one to bring their story to a wider audience? Does the only bank in your town close down because, even though it’s owned by the taxpayer, it feels no obligation to the community? Does the Government feel compelled to step in if there’s no public pressure? Will there ever be justice for a murdered Emma Caldwell amid allegations of police cover-ups? Will there ever be landmark cases exposing institutional racism and bigotry at the heart of police and other organisations, such as what followed in the wake of Stephen Lawrence’s murder? Will anyone care that rightwing groups are plotting to quite literally have you eating shampoo after Brexit? Will organised crime do in the daylight what they now do in the dark? Will fascist organisations in Britain who are arming themselves be exposed?

Who would carry the interview with former Bury defender Andy Woodward that would lead to the largest ever police investigation into sexual abuse in Britain and would lead to the conviction of serial paedophile Barry Bennell?

Bloggers? Good luck with that.

Every day papers, left and right, will carry stories that are important (they’ll also be full of trash that doesn’t do much for me, and opinions that I don’t particularly like) but those few examples listed above have been championed by some papers whose political slant I really can’t stomach.

Journalists, whether you like them or not, do important work. It’s why the cartel peels off their face and sews it onto a football. It’s why they get shot at traffic lights, have fundamentalists come in and shoot them dead in their place of work, why gangsters throw acid in their face at their home front door. When Alex Thompson isn’t answering the really big question about what to call The Rangers (and leaving people ‘disappointed’) he’s in war-torn areas where some of the combatants and governments will happily see him disposed of.

Obviously, little of that is to do with football. That wouldn’t happen in football. Tell that to the family of Rasim Aliyev.

When I was at school, I remember the modern studies teacher saying to read papers you don’t like and listen to views you disagree with. A lot of people seem to detest that principle going by posts on here and elsewhere. Aye, but a hearse, eff them. Long memory CSC. Should have got another job.

From accountants to blue collar workers, there might be a hearse coming to your place of work too. Driven by a robot that will probably be able to say Solidarnosc in an ironic voice while telling you that you should have done something else and, what, didn't you see it coming? In a couple of years, you probably won’t read about that, or the repercussions to the place you live and the people’s lives who have been affected. Unless it’s on a forum or you’re following @firstwitdanews on Twitter, or whatever comes after it.
No one should take pleasure in someone losing their job.

Quality journalism will always have a place in society.
Edited by allthewine, 19 Feb 2018, 02:29 PM.
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19 Feb 2018, 01:55 PM
Daily Record is hardly a fair and balanced paper ffs. Do I have sympathy for those that will lose their job? Yes, of course (Apart from some of the hacks). But by and large it's news content is biased and it's sports content is certainly biased.

It's downfall is it's own doing. I won't shed any tears when it finally goes. I really don't understand why any Celtic fan still buys it.
When you say their news content is “biased”, what exactly do you mean? Privately owned newspapers are under no more obligation than the Celtic View to act neutral. And they don’t pretend otherwise when it comes to news and politics - that’s why papers like the Record feel perfectly comfortable telling their readers who they’re backing in general elections, referendums, etc. It’s not the BBC; they’re allowed to have views and leave their readers to decide whether to go along with them or not. Sport is different in that I can’t think of any newspaper that would admit to favouring certain clubs, but there’s certainly nothing preventing them from doing so if they wished.
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