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16 Feb 2018, 11:49 AM
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Who will win Celtic vs Zenit? Our writers deliver their predictions for Euro showdown It's all set for a huge European night at Parkhead but who will come out on top?
Spoiler: click to toggle Gary RalstonSadly, Zenit will prove to have too much quality and despite their recent lay off the gap in quality will tell. Celtic 0 Zenit 2 Keith JacksonCeltic's form has been ropey lately but if anything can them going again then it's a big European night under the floodlights. That said, the best Scotland's champions can hope for is a narrow home win, without conceding an away goal. Even if Zenit are ring rusty after their long winter shut down this could prove a tall order. I'll keep my fingers crossed and go for a draw. Celtic 2 Zenit 2 Gordon Waddell If games were won on balance sheets, Celtic wouldn't lose to Kilmarnock and Zenit wouldn't lose to Celtic. But they're not, and as it stands right now, no matter how much the Russians have spent on players and fees and wages, they're still more than two months down the road from the last time they kicked a ball in anger in mid-December. By all accounts they've looked impressive in their camp in Turkey, but this for them is the equivalent of Celtic playing a Scandinavian side in a July qualifier and trying to hit the ground running. Brendan Rodgers ' side may not win the tie, but they'll still be in it by the time they get to St Petersburg next week. Celtic 1 Zenit 1 Scott McDermottYou get what you pay for and Zenit have bought players for £20 million plus so they'll have more quality on show. The likes of Paredes, Kokorin and Rigoni will pose serious problems for the Hoops whose best chance is to catch them cold with the Parkhead crowd behind them. Zenit haven't kicked a competitive ball since December so a quick-fire start could be the key for Brendan Rodgers' side but Celtic's injuries leave them short. If the Russians get through the first 20 minutes unscathed they can take a narrow lead back to St Petersburg. Celtic 1 Zenit 2 Craig SwanCeltic face a stiff task against a very dangerous outfit. Zenit have goals in them as top scorers in the group stages and might just have too much. Celtic 1 Zenit 2 Euan McLeanZenit are the Europa League’s top scorers, averaging almost three goals a game, while Celtic’s defence look like they couldn’t keep weans out of a close. It’s hard to imagine the Russians not leaving Glasgow with at least one valuable away goal so Celtic must seek to outgun them with their own attacking firepower. Celtic 2 Zenit 2 Gavin Berry As the competition’s leading scorers with 17 goals, and top Europa League marksman Emiliano Rigoni in their ranks, it’s unlikely Celtic will keep the Russians out given the Hoops haven’t looked convincing at the back this season. But the fact Roberto Mancini’s men haven’t played a competitive game since a 0-0 draw with Terek Grozny two months ago, has to be a factor and there is no reason why Celtic shouldn’t be capable of getting a draw at home. Brendan Rodgers needs to dig out at performance and a result at this level and even if progressing in the tournament proves to be too big an ask, they must show an ability to compete at home. Celtic 1 Zenit 1 Graeme Young It feels like Celtic supporters are waiting for a special result after recent up-and-down performances. If this game was last year then fans would be backing Brendan Rodgers' side here. Celtic's defensive vulnerabilities have been exposed in the Champions League and they have a raft of injuries to contend with. With all that said, Celtic need a special performance and Moussa Dembele is overdue a signature game. Expect a high-energy performance and the Premiership champions to frustrate Zenit at periods, but just lack the quality in their rearguard to hold on for the victory. Celtic 1 Zenit 1 Darren Cooney Celtic will hope to use the atmosphere of Parkhead to their advantage yet again Sometimes you have to park logic and just go with instinct. Yes, Zenit can boast players signed on big transfer fees – for example it took £11m to land Domenico Criscito from Genoa. And yes, they skooshed their Europa League group. On paper, the tie looks a real tough task. But, thankfully there’s a but, you must not write off Celtic. Fortress Parkhead may have lost a lot of its impregnability yet this could be the time they pull up the drawbridge. Celtic 1 Zenit 0 Mark McDougallCeltic fans will be dreaming of a Europa League run but with a defence like the one Brendan Rodgers will have to pick, they'll need to be on fire at the other end to get through. Jack Hendry will be in for his European debut while Jozo Simunovic hasn't been in the best of form recently and Kris Ajer is still inexperienced at this level. Zenit aren't the side they once where but still have a team that can cause the Hoops a lot of problems. Going forward, Celtic should have no problems if Scott Sinclair, Moussa Dembele, James Forrest and Charly Musonda produce the goods that they can but it'll be a high-scoring affair. Celtic 2 Zenit 3 Fraser WilsonIt won't make for comfortable viewing for Hoops fans but I fancy Celtic to scrape a first leg victory, fired up by one of those special Euro night atmospheres at Parkhead. Key will be Moussa Dembele and what maybe seems like an unlikely strong defensive performance from the patched-up rearguard. If Dembele can rediscover his big game self and if the Hoops can at least deliver an organised showing at the back then they can squeeze past the ring rusty Russians whose lack of match sharpness will play a factor. Will it be enough to win the tie overall? I doubt it. Celtic 2 Zenit 1https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/who-win-celtic-vs-zenit-12026069
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16 Feb 2018, 03:11 PM
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@Murrayf00te sports editor of Rectum has jacked it in -financial pressure now coming on ? "Goodbye and thanks for all the Pish !" - DouglasAdams.CSC
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16 Feb 2018, 03:16 PM
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@Murrayf00te sports editor of Rectum has jacked it in -financial pressure now coming on ? "Goodbye and thanks for all the Pish !" - DouglasAdams.CSC he's the actual editor of the paper, not the sports editor
I'm biased because I worked with him but Murray Foote is actually a really good guy doing a job that's become impossible. Virtually no experienced staff left, more job cuts to come.
the way things are going, the Record will be lucky to see the end of the year. It already contains too much content that comes from the Mirror because they refuse to invest anything in the Scottish titles. That's only going to get worse.
I'll be in a minority with this view, but it would be very bad news if the Record shut. There are few enough outlets that offer a variety of different news and opinions in Scotland
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16 Feb 2018, 03:21 PM
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@Murrayf00te sports editor of Rectum has jacked it in -financial pressure now coming on ? "Goodbye and thanks for all the Pish !" - DouglasAdams.CSC
he's the actual editor of the paper, not the sports editor I'm biased because I worked with him but Murray Foote is actually a really good guy doing a job that's become impossible. Virtually no experienced staff left, more job cuts to come. the way things are going, the Record will be lucky to see the end of the year. It already contains too much content that comes from the Mirror because they refuse to invest anything in the Scottish titles. That's only going to get worse. I'll be in a minority with this view, but it would be very bad news if the Record shut. There are few enough outlets that offer a variety of different news and opinions in Scotland However will we cope without their cutting edge reporting.
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16 Feb 2018, 03:23 PM
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@Murrayf00te sports editor of Rectum has jacked it in -financial pressure now coming on ? "Goodbye and thanks for all the Pish !" - DouglasAdams.CSC
he's the actual editor of the paper, not the sports editor I'm biased because I worked with him but Murray Foote is actually a really good guy doing a job that's become impossible. Virtually no experienced staff left, more job cuts to come. the way things are going, the Record will be lucky to see the end of the year. It already contains too much content that comes from the Mirror because they refuse to invest anything in the Scottish titles. That's only going to get worse. I'll be in a minority with this view, but it would be very bad news if the Record shut. There are few enough outlets that offer a variety of different news and opinions in Scotland yeah, the future looks bleak for the likes of the record, herald and scotsman given the decline in circulations. they must all be very marginal now in terms of profitability. if they go then that'll really just leave the regional bbc and stv output as mass market Scottish media.
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16 Feb 2018, 03:45 PM
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@Murrayf00te sports editor of Rectum has jacked it in -financial pressure now coming on ? "Goodbye and thanks for all the Pish !" - DouglasAdams.CSC
he's the actual editor of the paper, not the sports editor I'm biased because I worked with him but Murray Foote is actually a really good guy doing a job that's become impossible. Virtually no experienced staff left, more job cuts to come. the way things are going, the Record will be lucky to see the end of the year. It already contains too much content that comes from the Mirror because they refuse to invest anything in the Scottish titles. That's only going to get worse. I'll be in a minority with this view, but it would be very bad news if the Record shut. There are few enough outlets that offer a variety of different news and opinions in Scotland " They bring it on themselves !" All the scummy articles written about Celtic & Staff over the years , no sympathy - they ignored, hid or lied about the truth for years and are still doing it ! - eff them !
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16 Feb 2018, 03:52 PM
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@Murrayf00te sports editor of Rectum has jacked it in -financial pressure now coming on ? "Goodbye and thanks for all the Pish !" - DouglasAdams.CSC
he's the actual editor of the paper, not the sports editor I'm biased because I worked with him but Murray Foote is actually a really good guy doing a job that's become impossible. Virtually no experienced staff left, more job cuts to come. the way things are going, the Record will be lucky to see the end of the year. It already contains too much content that comes from the Mirror because they refuse to invest anything in the Scottish titles. That's only going to get worse. I'll be in a minority with this view, but it would be very bad news if the Record shut. There are few enough outlets that offer a variety of different news and opinions in Scotland If only the Record had credibility, honesty and integrity and had the truth as its objective
Eff 'em
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16 Feb 2018, 04:02 PM
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@Murrayf00te sports editor of Rectum has jacked it in -financial pressure now coming on ? "Goodbye and thanks for all the Pish !" - DouglasAdams.CSC
he's the actual editor of the paper, not the sports editor I'm biased because I worked with him but Murray Foote is actually a really good guy doing a job that's become impossible. Virtually no experienced staff left, more job cuts to come. the way things are going, the Record will be lucky to see the end of the year. It already contains too much content that comes from the Mirror because they refuse to invest anything in the Scottish titles. That's only going to get worse. I'll be in a minority with this view, but it would be very bad news if the Record shut. There are few enough outlets that offer a variety of different news and opinions in Scotland
If only the Record had credibility, honesty and integrity and had the truth as its objective Eff 'em Aye, because everyone who works there and who will end up in a shrinking jobs market wrote that Thugs & Thieves headline (or whichever one is responsible for the 'eff them' response).
The Record is a left of centre paper and the country needs more of them, not less. Local papers, nationals, they're all going to go down the pan.
But obviously everyone can get their news on line these days, just as you can make your own pair of trousers with a bit of cloth and a needle and thread.
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16 Feb 2018, 04:04 PM
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will anyone actually miss those rags?
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16 Feb 2018, 04:11 PM
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will anyone actually miss those rags?
Not really. We have bloggers who will expose companies who don't pay their workers minimum wage, who campaign to keep A&Es open when political parties want to shut them, who expose corruption in the government, who spend two years working on stories like MPs expenses.
Expecting an email from Avaaz in the next day or two about some of these things, asking for a signature and a donation.
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16 Feb 2018, 04:19 PM
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There’s another round of redundancies at media Scotland and footes replacement is the digital director. they’ll soon be out of print and bumping the click bait up a few notches.
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If only the Record had credibility, honesty and integrity and had the truth as its objective Eff 'em
Aye, because everyone who works there and who will end up in a shrinking jobs market wrote that Thugs & Thieves headline (or whichever one is responsible for the 'eff them' response). The Record is a left of centre paper and the country needs more of them, not less. Local papers, nationals, they're all going to go down the pan. But obviously everyone can get their news on line these days, just as you can make your own pair of trousers with a bit of cloth and a needle and thread. If only the editor had done his job correctly instead of pandering to the Hun demographic by lying
Might be politically left in its news pages, but its sports pages are blatantly toadying to the Hun. By their own admission, the sports pages sell the paper.
The Record backed the wrong horse.
Edit to add: Architects of their own downfall
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16 Feb 2018, 04:22 PM
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Can a country without its own media seriously consider itself to be a country?
I'm sure the Daily Mail will look after your interests.
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16 Feb 2018, 04:29 PM
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Aye, because everyone who works there and who will end up in a shrinking jobs market wrote that Thugs & Thieves headline (or whichever one is responsible for the 'eff them' response). The Record is a left of centre paper and the country needs more of them, not less. Local papers, nationals, they're all going to go down the pan. But obviously everyone can get their news on line these days, just as you can make your own pair of trousers with a bit of cloth and a needle and thread.
If only the editor had done his job correctly instead of pandering to the Hun demographic by lying Might be politically left in its news pages, but its sports pages are blatantly toadying to the Hun. By their own admission, the sports pages sell the paper. The Record backed the wrong horse. Edit to add: Architects of their own downfall Aye, that'll be why the huns are boycotting it too.
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16 Feb 2018, 04:40 PM
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I'll be in a minority with this view, but it would be very bad news if the Record shut. Can't shut quickly enough for me.
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If only the editor had done his job correctly instead of pandering to the Hun demographic by lying Might be politically left in its news pages, but its sports pages are blatantly toadying to the Hun. By their own admission, the sports pages sell the paper. The Record backed the wrong horse. Edit to add: Architects of their own downfall
Aye, that'll be why the huns are boycotting it too. Are they ? Really ? Huns are stupid, shocker
Maybe we should crowdfund the Record ?
#JogForJackson #RallyRoundRalston #GoodForGuidi
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Victim of the times and architect of their own downfall, a cocktail none of the printed press, quality or not, will survive.
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16 Feb 2018, 05:03 PM
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Aye, that'll be why the huns are boycotting it too.
Are they ? Really ?  Huns are stupid, shocker Maybe we should crowdfund the Record ? #JogForJackson #RallyRoundRalston #GoodForGuidi Do what you want, as long as you're gloating, that's the main thing.
Maybe when you or your kids work in an industry that collapses you'll be happy to see your neighbour smirking away.
Or maybe you'll discover something that needs exposed or brought to a wider audience, then you'll be able to tweet it to your 70 followers or whatever.
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There are few enough outlets that offer a variety of different news and opinions in Scotland If these outlets really did offer what you suggest then arguably there might be some ray of hope, and perhaps even a shred of sympathy.
But when you have a largely unregulated industry full of piss poor managers employing a short sighted strategy with a culturally backward approach to the value of real news and worthwhile opinion then they fully deserve their fate.
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There are few enough outlets that offer a variety of different news and opinions in Scotland
If these outlets really did offer what you suggest then arguably there might be some ray of hope, and perhaps even a shred of sympathy. But when you have a largely unregulated industry full of piss poor managers employing a short sighted strategy with a culturally backward approach to the value of real news and worthwhile opinion then they fully deserve their fate. Is that what's happening in the global printed media then, all piss poor managers with a culturally backward approach to the value of real news and worthwhile opinion?
Even Theresa May had recognised that local and national newspapers are essential to a democracy.
Probably quite a few folk on this board that have seen these papers campaign for their jobs and their health.
I doubt anyone would expect much in the way of solidarity etc, but folk gloating is a bit of a stretch tbh.
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