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31 Jan 2018, 12:19 PM
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BBC retain the highlight package from the Premier League for £211m. The last round of the BBC paid £207m for the rights and were the sole bidder.
How much does the BBC put into Scottish Football? Based on a pro-rata heads of population, it's obviously about £20m? Right? Scottish Football gets less than Gary Lineker gets for his salary.
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31 Jan 2018, 05:39 PM
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Derek Rae = COCK!
Derek Rae: SFA are right to expect Celtic players in action for summer friendlies
Spoiler: click to toggle Derek Rae The SFA are right to expect Celtic players to turn up for the games against Peru and Mexico, according to Derek Rae
Regardless of whether it puts noses out of joint or not, I think that the SFA are entirely within their right to expect their top players to report for international duty this summer. The friendly games against Peru and Mexico have caused quite a stir given their proximity to the UEFA Champions League qualifiers. And while I have a degree of sympathy for Celtic and for Brendan Rodgers because of that, the bottom line is that this is an international window and the bulk of top players will reporting for duty with their countries.
I don’t think it is something that anyone should be complaining about. This is what life is like in the fast lane. If Scotland had made it to the World Cup, as I am sure we all dearly wished they had, then all the players would have been falling over themselves to make it into the squad. This should not be treated any differently. I remember covering Scotland and the USA when Craig Levein was in charge of the national team and it was a complete waste of time. It was essentially a Florida break with the chance to get a bit of golf in and Scotland were taken aback that USA had the temerity to take the game seriously. They hammered us 5-1. And while we all want to see Celtic in the Champions League again this year, if there is a new Scotland manager in place then does he too not deserve the chance to have an appraisal of his squad ahead of the Nations League games which will just be around the corner?
Neil Lennon came up with a logical way around the lack of a break when he was Celtic manager. As soon as the league was won, and given the lead that Celtic currently have the reality is that they could have the title wrapped up by April, then he gave key players a decent bit of time off. It is a logical way to address the issue. For many players, especially those who are playing at the very top level, this is the reality of their profession now. The days of extended breaks are long gone and you have to pick points when you can give players the chance to get some respite.
It is unfair that the national team should appear to come off second best. I think you need to have a commitment to it if the country are going to progress and improve. Meanwhile, I think that we should applaud the decision by Danny Wilson and Johnny Russell to make the move to head to the States. I also think that the perception that players leave Britain to go to the States for little more than a fat pay cheque is a nonsense. Both Wilson and Russell have gone for the lifestyle offered and for the challenge presented in the States rather than for money.
Too often our home grown players are content to sit back and go for the safe option so you have to applaud both of them for having a little ambition to go and seek out something else. Wilson stressed that it was very much a family decision and there is no doubt that the lifestyle has considerable pulling power. One of the main changes in culture from a playing side of things is the exposure to significant travel. It is a huge continent and you could be on the East Coast for one game before heading onto a five or six hour flight for your next game on a different coast. You can be away for days at a time and there is a feeling that you are on the road a lot but to my mind is a challenging environment and one that more players should think of embracing. The manner in which people back home are scornful of players who move to America and pour cold water is largely uneducated. Many years ago, and I am going back to the time of Pele and Franz Beckenbauer there was a philosophy of bringing big name players into the game for big money but those days were largely gone with the inception of the MLS in 1996.
They learned a lot of lessons from that and although there have been high profile players who have come, like David Beckham, it was always much more centralised. And now, most American teams are looking towards young Mexican and Costa Rican talent to bring in. But there is a real feeling that if you get into this league at a young age you can effectively have a career for life. John Spencer would be a classic example of that. He came over and made it clear that he was on it for the long haul. He is fully settled with his family and is an assistant at San Jose earthquakes. In any case, I think there will be a few of us keeping an eye on Wilson and Russell to see how they fare over the coming months.
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/15907986.Derek_Rae__SFA_are_right_to_expect_Celtic_players_in_action_for_summer_friendlies/
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31 Jan 2018, 05:50 PM
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Derek Rae = COCK! Derek Rae: SFA are right to expect Celtic players in action for summer friendliesSpoiler: click to toggle Derek Rae The SFA are right to expect Celtic players to turn up for the games against Peru and Mexico, according to Derek Rae
Regardless of whether it puts noses out of joint or not, I think that the SFA are entirely within their right to expect their top players to report for international duty this summer. The friendly games against Peru and Mexico have caused quite a stir given their proximity to the UEFA Champions League qualifiers. And while I have a degree of sympathy for Celtic and for Brendan Rodgers because of that, the bottom line is that this is an international window and the bulk of top players will reporting for duty with their countries.
I don’t think it is something that anyone should be complaining about. This is what life is like in the fast lane. If Scotland had made it to the World Cup, as I am sure we all dearly wished they had, then all the players would have been falling over themselves to make it into the squad. This should not be treated any differently. I remember covering Scotland and the USA when Craig Levein was in charge of the national team and it was a complete waste of time. It was essentially a Florida break with the chance to get a bit of golf in and Scotland were taken aback that USA had the temerity to take the game seriously. They hammered us 5-1. And while we all want to see Celtic in the Champions League again this year, if there is a new Scotland manager in place then does he too not deserve the chance to have an appraisal of his squad ahead of the Nations League games which will just be around the corner?
Neil Lennon came up with a logical way around the lack of a break when he was Celtic manager. As soon as the league was won, and given the lead that Celtic currently have the reality is that they could have the title wrapped up by April, then he gave key players a decent bit of time off. It is a logical way to address the issue. For many players, especially those who are playing at the very top level, this is the reality of their profession now. The days of extended breaks are long gone and you have to pick points when you can give players the chance to get some respite.
It is unfair that the national team should appear to come off second best. I think you need to have a commitment to it if the country are going to progress and improve. Meanwhile, I think that we should applaud the decision by Danny Wilson and Johnny Russell to make the move to head to the States. I also think that the perception that players leave Britain to go to the States for little more than a fat pay cheque is a nonsense. Both Wilson and Russell have gone for the lifestyle offered and for the challenge presented in the States rather than for money.
Too often our home grown players are content to sit back and go for the safe option so you have to applaud both of them for having a little ambition to go and seek out something else. Wilson stressed that it was very much a family decision and there is no doubt that the lifestyle has considerable pulling power. One of the main changes in culture from a playing side of things is the exposure to significant travel. It is a huge continent and you could be on the East Coast for one game before heading onto a five or six hour flight for your next game on a different coast. You can be away for days at a time and there is a feeling that you are on the road a lot but to my mind is a challenging environment and one that more players should think of embracing. The manner in which people back home are scornful of players who move to America and pour cold water is largely uneducated. Many years ago, and I am going back to the time of Pele and Franz Beckenbauer there was a philosophy of bringing big name players into the game for big money but those days were largely gone with the inception of the MLS in 1996.
They learned a lot of lessons from that and although there have been high profile players who have come, like David Beckham, it was always much more centralised. And now, most American teams are looking towards young Mexican and Costa Rican talent to bring in. But there is a real feeling that if you get into this league at a young age you can effectively have a career for life. John Spencer would be a classic example of that. He came over and made it clear that he was on it for the long haul. He is fully settled with his family and is an assistant at San Jose earthquakes. In any case, I think there will be a few of us keeping an eye on Wilson and Russell to see how they fare over the coming months.
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/15907986.Derek_Rae__SFA_are_right_to_expect_Celtic_players_in_action_for_summer_friendlies/
they have been searching for somebody to have this angle and after 4 or 5 days the best they can produce is this absolute non-entity.
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31 Jan 2018, 05:51 PM
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Derek Rae = COCK! Derek Rae: SFA are right to expect Celtic players in action for summer friendliesSpoiler: click to toggle Derek Rae The SFA are right to expect Celtic players to turn up for the games against Peru and Mexico, according to Derek Rae
Regardless of whether it puts noses out of joint or not, I think that the SFA are entirely within their right to expect their top players to report for international duty this summer. The friendly games against Peru and Mexico have caused quite a stir given their proximity to the UEFA Champions League qualifiers. And while I have a degree of sympathy for Celtic and for Brendan Rodgers because of that, the bottom line is that this is an international window and the bulk of top players will reporting for duty with their countries.
I don’t think it is something that anyone should be complaining about. This is what life is like in the fast lane. If Scotland had made it to the World Cup, as I am sure we all dearly wished they had, then all the players would have been falling over themselves to make it into the squad. This should not be treated any differently. I remember covering Scotland and the USA when Craig Levein was in charge of the national team and it was a complete waste of time. It was essentially a Florida break with the chance to get a bit of golf in and Scotland were taken aback that USA had the temerity to take the game seriously. They hammered us 5-1. And while we all want to see Celtic in the Champions League again this year, if there is a new Scotland manager in place then does he too not deserve the chance to have an appraisal of his squad ahead of the Nations League games which will just be around the corner?
Neil Lennon came up with a logical way around the lack of a break when he was Celtic manager. As soon as the league was won, and given the lead that Celtic currently have the reality is that they could have the title wrapped up by April, then he gave key players a decent bit of time off. It is a logical way to address the issue. For many players, especially those who are playing at the very top level, this is the reality of their profession now. The days of extended breaks are long gone and you have to pick points when you can give players the chance to get some respite.
It is unfair that the national team should appear to come off second best. I think you need to have a commitment to it if the country are going to progress and improve. Meanwhile, I think that we should applaud the decision by Danny Wilson and Johnny Russell to make the move to head to the States. I also think that the perception that players leave Britain to go to the States for little more than a fat pay cheque is a nonsense. Both Wilson and Russell have gone for the lifestyle offered and for the challenge presented in the States rather than for money.
Too often our home grown players are content to sit back and go for the safe option so you have to applaud both of them for having a little ambition to go and seek out something else. Wilson stressed that it was very much a family decision and there is no doubt that the lifestyle has considerable pulling power. One of the main changes in culture from a playing side of things is the exposure to significant travel. It is a huge continent and you could be on the East Coast for one game before heading onto a five or six hour flight for your next game on a different coast. You can be away for days at a time and there is a feeling that you are on the road a lot but to my mind is a challenging environment and one that more players should think of embracing. The manner in which people back home are scornful of players who move to America and pour cold water is largely uneducated. Many years ago, and I am going back to the time of Pele and Franz Beckenbauer there was a philosophy of bringing big name players into the game for big money but those days were largely gone with the inception of the MLS in 1996.
They learned a lot of lessons from that and although there have been high profile players who have come, like David Beckham, it was always much more centralised. And now, most American teams are looking towards young Mexican and Costa Rican talent to bring in. But there is a real feeling that if you get into this league at a young age you can effectively have a career for life. John Spencer would be a classic example of that. He came over and made it clear that he was on it for the long haul. He is fully settled with his family and is an assistant at San Jose earthquakes. In any case, I think there will be a few of us keeping an eye on Wilson and Russell to see how they fare over the coming months.
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/15907986.Derek_Rae__SFA_are_right_to_expect_Celtic_players_in_action_for_summer_friendlies/
What an impressive load of utter drivelling pish for a single "article".
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31 Jan 2018, 07:28 PM
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Hampden yes or no on stv news and it shows you coopers goal V us in the Drybrough cup final ffs .
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The bloke that presents the sport about 0635 on radio scotland is always near pissin himself regards rangers every morning.
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Interesting to see where this goes.
Bristol City fans sue West Midlands Police over breach of human rights Ten Bristol City fans are suing West Midlands Police for breaching their human rights before a game against Birmingham City in September 2015 in a case that could have wide-reaching implications.
The group were among 51 fans who were allegedly surrounded by police whilst walking to St Andrew's, publicly accused of being hooligans by an officer with a megaphone, detained for more than 90 minutes and then returned to New Street station and put on trains back to Bristol.
Eight of the 10 complainants were issued with dispersal notices under section 35 of the Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Disorder Act but all 10 are claiming false imprisonment and a breach of article five of the European Convention of Human Rights.
Backed by the Bristol City Supporters Club and Trust, the fans served the particulars of claim last week and the force has until February 22 to accept liability and offer compensation or the case will go to civil court.
In a statement released, a West Midlands police spokesperson said: “Court proceedings have been served against the force and we are currently seeking legal advice.”
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Derek Rae = COCK! Derek Rae: SFA are right to expect Celtic players in action for summer friendliesSpoiler: click to toggle Derek Rae The SFA are right to expect Celtic players to turn up for the games against Peru and Mexico, according to Derek Rae
Regardless of whether it puts noses out of joint or not, I think that the SFA are entirely within their right to expect their top players to report for international duty this summer. The friendly games against Peru and Mexico have caused quite a stir given their proximity to the UEFA Champions League qualifiers. And while I have a degree of sympathy for Celtic and for Brendan Rodgers because of that, the bottom line is that this is an international window and the bulk of top players will reporting for duty with their countries.
I don’t think it is something that anyone should be complaining about. This is what life is like in the fast lane. If Scotland had made it to the World Cup, as I am sure we all dearly wished they had, then all the players would have been falling over themselves to make it into the squad. This should not be treated any differently. I remember covering Scotland and the USA when Craig Levein was in charge of the national team and it was a complete waste of time. It was essentially a Florida break with the chance to get a bit of golf in and Scotland were taken aback that USA had the temerity to take the game seriously. They hammered us 5-1. And while we all want to see Celtic in the Champions League again this year, if there is a new Scotland manager in place then does he too not deserve the chance to have an appraisal of his squad ahead of the Nations League games which will just be around the corner?
Neil Lennon came up with a logical way around the lack of a break when he was Celtic manager. As soon as the league was won, and given the lead that Celtic currently have the reality is that they could have the title wrapped up by April, then he gave key players a decent bit of time off. It is a logical way to address the issue. For many players, especially those who are playing at the very top level, this is the reality of their profession now. The days of extended breaks are long gone and you have to pick points when you can give players the chance to get some respite.
It is unfair that the national team should appear to come off second best. I think you need to have a commitment to it if the country are going to progress and improve. Meanwhile, I think that we should applaud the decision by Danny Wilson and Johnny Russell to make the move to head to the States. I also think that the perception that players leave Britain to go to the States for little more than a fat pay cheque is a nonsense. Both Wilson and Russell have gone for the lifestyle offered and for the challenge presented in the States rather than for money.
Too often our home grown players are content to sit back and go for the safe option so you have to applaud both of them for having a little ambition to go and seek out something else. Wilson stressed that it was very much a family decision and there is no doubt that the lifestyle has considerable pulling power. One of the main changes in culture from a playing side of things is the exposure to significant travel. It is a huge continent and you could be on the East Coast for one game before heading onto a five or six hour flight for your next game on a different coast. You can be away for days at a time and there is a feeling that you are on the road a lot but to my mind is a challenging environment and one that more players should think of embracing. The manner in which people back home are scornful of players who move to America and pour cold water is largely uneducated. Many years ago, and I am going back to the time of Pele and Franz Beckenbauer there was a philosophy of bringing big name players into the game for big money but those days were largely gone with the inception of the MLS in 1996.
They learned a lot of lessons from that and although there have been high profile players who have come, like David Beckham, it was always much more centralised. And now, most American teams are looking towards young Mexican and Costa Rican talent to bring in. But there is a real feeling that if you get into this league at a young age you can effectively have a career for life. John Spencer would be a classic example of that. He came over and made it clear that he was on it for the long haul. He is fully settled with his family and is an assistant at San Jose earthquakes. In any case, I think there will be a few of us keeping an eye on Wilson and Russell to see how they fare over the coming months.
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/15907986.Derek_Rae__SFA_are_right_to_expect_Celtic_players_in_action_for_summer_friendlies/
I'd say thats a perfectly reasonable article for someone who isnt a Celtic supporter. Of course they are going to think like that.
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Derek Rae = COCK! Derek Rae: SFA are right to expect Celtic players in action for summer friendliesSpoiler: click to toggle Derek Rae The SFA are right to expect Celtic players to turn up for the games against Peru and Mexico, according to Derek Rae
Regardless of whether it puts noses out of joint or not, I think that the SFA are entirely within their right to expect their top players to report for international duty this summer. The friendly games against Peru and Mexico have caused quite a stir given their proximity to the UEFA Champions League qualifiers. And while I have a degree of sympathy for Celtic and for Brendan Rodgers because of that, the bottom line is that this is an international window and the bulk of top players will reporting for duty with their countries.
I don’t think it is something that anyone should be complaining about. This is what life is like in the fast lane. If Scotland had made it to the World Cup, as I am sure we all dearly wished they had, then all the players would have been falling over themselves to make it into the squad. This should not be treated any differently. I remember covering Scotland and the USA when Craig Levein was in charge of the national team and it was a complete waste of time. It was essentially a Florida break with the chance to get a bit of golf in and Scotland were taken aback that USA had the temerity to take the game seriously. They hammered us 5-1. And while we all want to see Celtic in the Champions League again this year, if there is a new Scotland manager in place then does he too not deserve the chance to have an appraisal of his squad ahead of the Nations League games which will just be around the corner?
Neil Lennon came up with a logical way around the lack of a break when he was Celtic manager. As soon as the league was won, and given the lead that Celtic currently have the reality is that they could have the title wrapped up by April, then he gave key players a decent bit of time off. It is a logical way to address the issue. For many players, especially those who are playing at the very top level, this is the reality of their profession now. The days of extended breaks are long gone and you have to pick points when you can give players the chance to get some respite.
It is unfair that the national team should appear to come off second best. I think you need to have a commitment to it if the country are going to progress and improve. Meanwhile, I think that we should applaud the decision by Danny Wilson and Johnny Russell to make the move to head to the States. I also think that the perception that players leave Britain to go to the States for little more than a fat pay cheque is a nonsense. Both Wilson and Russell have gone for the lifestyle offered and for the challenge presented in the States rather than for money.
Too often our home grown players are content to sit back and go for the safe option so you have to applaud both of them for having a little ambition to go and seek out something else. Wilson stressed that it was very much a family decision and there is no doubt that the lifestyle has considerable pulling power. One of the main changes in culture from a playing side of things is the exposure to significant travel. It is a huge continent and you could be on the East Coast for one game before heading onto a five or six hour flight for your next game on a different coast. You can be away for days at a time and there is a feeling that you are on the road a lot but to my mind is a challenging environment and one that more players should think of embracing. The manner in which people back home are scornful of players who move to America and pour cold water is largely uneducated. Many years ago, and I am going back to the time of Pele and Franz Beckenbauer there was a philosophy of bringing big name players into the game for big money but those days were largely gone with the inception of the MLS in 1996.
They learned a lot of lessons from that and although there have been high profile players who have come, like David Beckham, it was always much more centralised. And now, most American teams are looking towards young Mexican and Costa Rican talent to bring in. But there is a real feeling that if you get into this league at a young age you can effectively have a career for life. John Spencer would be a classic example of that. He came over and made it clear that he was on it for the long haul. He is fully settled with his family and is an assistant at San Jose earthquakes. In any case, I think there will be a few of us keeping an eye on Wilson and Russell to see how they fare over the coming months.
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/15907986.Derek_Rae__SFA_are_right_to_expect_Celtic_players_in_action_for_summer_friendlies/
I'd say thats a perfectly reasonable article for someone who isnt a Celtic supporter. Of course they are going to think like that. Or they could take into account the fact we play more games than anyone else and our biggest game of next season is in July. When, coincidentally, the SFA decide to cart half our team to the other side of the globe for a friendly.
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Derek Rae = COCK! Derek Rae: SFA are right to expect Celtic players in action for summer friendliesSpoiler: click to toggle Derek Rae The SFA are right to expect Celtic players to turn up for the games against Peru and Mexico, according to Derek Rae
Regardless of whether it puts noses out of joint or not, I think that the SFA are entirely within their right to expect their top players to report for international duty this summer. The friendly games against Peru and Mexico have caused quite a stir given their proximity to the UEFA Champions League qualifiers. And while I have a degree of sympathy for Celtic and for Brendan Rodgers because of that, the bottom line is that this is an international window and the bulk of top players will reporting for duty with their countries.
I don’t think it is something that anyone should be complaining about. This is what life is like in the fast lane. If Scotland had made it to the World Cup, as I am sure we all dearly wished they had, then all the players would have been falling over themselves to make it into the squad. This should not be treated any differently. I remember covering Scotland and the USA when Craig Levein was in charge of the national team and it was a complete waste of time. It was essentially a Florida break with the chance to get a bit of golf in and Scotland were taken aback that USA had the temerity to take the game seriously. They hammered us 5-1. And while we all want to see Celtic in the Champions League again this year, if there is a new Scotland manager in place then does he too not deserve the chance to have an appraisal of his squad ahead of the Nations League games which will just be around the corner?
Neil Lennon came up with a logical way around the lack of a break when he was Celtic manager. As soon as the league was won, and given the lead that Celtic currently have the reality is that they could have the title wrapped up by April, then he gave key players a decent bit of time off. It is a logical way to address the issue. For many players, especially those who are playing at the very top level, this is the reality of their profession now. The days of extended breaks are long gone and you have to pick points when you can give players the chance to get some respite.
It is unfair that the national team should appear to come off second best. I think you need to have a commitment to it if the country are going to progress and improve. Meanwhile, I think that we should applaud the decision by Danny Wilson and Johnny Russell to make the move to head to the States. I also think that the perception that players leave Britain to go to the States for little more than a fat pay cheque is a nonsense. Both Wilson and Russell have gone for the lifestyle offered and for the challenge presented in the States rather than for money.
Too often our home grown players are content to sit back and go for the safe option so you have to applaud both of them for having a little ambition to go and seek out something else. Wilson stressed that it was very much a family decision and there is no doubt that the lifestyle has considerable pulling power. One of the main changes in culture from a playing side of things is the exposure to significant travel. It is a huge continent and you could be on the East Coast for one game before heading onto a five or six hour flight for your next game on a different coast. You can be away for days at a time and there is a feeling that you are on the road a lot but to my mind is a challenging environment and one that more players should think of embracing. The manner in which people back home are scornful of players who move to America and pour cold water is largely uneducated. Many years ago, and I am going back to the time of Pele and Franz Beckenbauer there was a philosophy of bringing big name players into the game for big money but those days were largely gone with the inception of the MLS in 1996.
They learned a lot of lessons from that and although there have been high profile players who have come, like David Beckham, it was always much more centralised. And now, most American teams are looking towards young Mexican and Costa Rican talent to bring in. But there is a real feeling that if you get into this league at a young age you can effectively have a career for life. John Spencer would be a classic example of that. He came over and made it clear that he was on it for the long haul. He is fully settled with his family and is an assistant at San Jose earthquakes. In any case, I think there will be a few of us keeping an eye on Wilson and Russell to see how they fare over the coming months.
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/15907986.Derek_Rae__SFA_are_right_to_expect_Celtic_players_in_action_for_summer_friendlies/
I'd say thats a perfectly reasonable article for someone who isnt a Celtic supporter. Of course they are going to think like that.
Or they could take into account the fact we play more games than anyone else and our biggest game of next season is in July. When, coincidentally, the SFA decide to cart half our team to the other side of the globe for a friendly. I think the reaction has been a bit hysterical. Not from Rodgers who has a point, but certainly from the dullard hack media, led by Jackson. It is easy to point out that the bulk of nations are using the period to play games, whether they are at the World Cup or not. So why should Scotland be any different?
A national association has to schedule games for periods where there are no competitive games. The gap between WC qualifying and the next Euros is currently anomalous because of the Nations League. Games are developmental and provide experience to players and coaches, they generate income and ranking points. Otherwise no country would play them. Scotland opts not to, it stands still compared to a few other countries we are competing with.
Scotland still pull most of their squad from largely English Championship and Premier League players, and can easily do so in May. 95% of whom will end their season on 6 May (Championship) or 13 May (Premier League), and will not return to competitive games until either 4 or 11 August. Most (if not all) of these players will not be involved in either the FA Cup Final, Championship Play Offs or European qualifiers. So as usual quite a lot of hot air is talked.
The issue arises because of the large number of Celtic players in the squad, and actually the number of Scottish based players in the last squad likely to be in club Euro qualifiers (a small number of Sheep and huns). It seems quite clear to me there will be no Celtic players at all, aside from maybe the ones we think it will benefit (I could see McGregor and Christie going without it causing us too many issues for us for example). And I reckon that is exactly the approach we will take. There is no way Brown, Griffiths, Armstrong, Forrest, Tierney or Gordon will be going, and with good reason. There's also no way every single one should not be considered when the Nations League games begin, because they are among the best available to whoever the Scotland manager will be.
Derek Rae is normally fairly on the money, but he's miles off it here.
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Derek Rae = COCK! Derek Rae: SFA are right to expect Celtic players in action for summer friendliesSpoiler: click to toggle Derek Rae The SFA are right to expect Celtic players to turn up for the games against Peru and Mexico, according to Derek Rae
Regardless of whether it puts noses out of joint or not, I think that the SFA are entirely within their right to expect their top players to report for international duty this summer. The friendly games against Peru and Mexico have caused quite a stir given their proximity to the UEFA Champions League qualifiers. And while I have a degree of sympathy for Celtic and for Brendan Rodgers because of that, the bottom line is that this is an international window and the bulk of top players will reporting for duty with their countries.
I don’t think it is something that anyone should be complaining about. This is what life is like in the fast lane. If Scotland had made it to the World Cup, as I am sure we all dearly wished they had, then all the players would have been falling over themselves to make it into the squad. This should not be treated any differently. I remember covering Scotland and the USA when Craig Levein was in charge of the national team and it was a complete waste of time. It was essentially a Florida break with the chance to get a bit of golf in and Scotland were taken aback that USA had the temerity to take the game seriously. They hammered us 5-1. And while we all want to see Celtic in the Champions League again this year, if there is a new Scotland manager in place then does he too not deserve the chance to have an appraisal of his squad ahead of the Nations League games which will just be around the corner?
Neil Lennon came up with a logical way around the lack of a break when he was Celtic manager. As soon as the league was won, and given the lead that Celtic currently have the reality is that they could have the title wrapped up by April, then he gave key players a decent bit of time off. It is a logical way to address the issue. For many players, especially those who are playing at the very top level, this is the reality of their profession now. The days of extended breaks are long gone and you have to pick points when you can give players the chance to get some respite.
It is unfair that the national team should appear to come off second best. I think you need to have a commitment to it if the country are going to progress and improve. Meanwhile, I think that we should applaud the decision by Danny Wilson and Johnny Russell to make the move to head to the States. I also think that the perception that players leave Britain to go to the States for little more than a fat pay cheque is a nonsense. Both Wilson and Russell have gone for the lifestyle offered and for the challenge presented in the States rather than for money.
Too often our home grown players are content to sit back and go for the safe option so you have to applaud both of them for having a little ambition to go and seek out something else. Wilson stressed that it was very much a family decision and there is no doubt that the lifestyle has considerable pulling power. One of the main changes in culture from a playing side of things is the exposure to significant travel. It is a huge continent and you could be on the East Coast for one game before heading onto a five or six hour flight for your next game on a different coast. You can be away for days at a time and there is a feeling that you are on the road a lot but to my mind is a challenging environment and one that more players should think of embracing. The manner in which people back home are scornful of players who move to America and pour cold water is largely uneducated. Many years ago, and I am going back to the time of Pele and Franz Beckenbauer there was a philosophy of bringing big name players into the game for big money but those days were largely gone with the inception of the MLS in 1996.
They learned a lot of lessons from that and although there have been high profile players who have come, like David Beckham, it was always much more centralised. And now, most American teams are looking towards young Mexican and Costa Rican talent to bring in. But there is a real feeling that if you get into this league at a young age you can effectively have a career for life. John Spencer would be a classic example of that. He came over and made it clear that he was on it for the long haul. He is fully settled with his family and is an assistant at San Jose earthquakes. In any case, I think there will be a few of us keeping an eye on Wilson and Russell to see how they fare over the coming months.
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/15907986.Derek_Rae__SFA_are_right_to_expect_Celtic_players_in_action_for_summer_friendlies/
'if there is a new Scotland manager in place'
Yep our players should be planning theirf summer around an organisation that even Rae has no faith in ffs
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Hope no one has booked a hotel near the Scottish Parliament around 2nd - 6th July.
'CHARM OFFENSIVE' Orange Order hires PR guru to launch new campaign to tackle its negative public image In its declaration for 2018, the ultra-Unionist Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland has vowed it will be a "year of opportunity" as it announces plans to hold international gathering in Edinburgh
Spoiler: click to toggle By Laura Murray THE Orange Order is to launch a “charm offensive” to tackle the organisation’s negative image and showcase itself to the public. In its declaration for 2018, the ultra-Unionist Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland has vowed it will be a “year of opportunity” and is said to have entered the new year with a “spring in its step”. The ultra-Unionist organisation will hold an international gathering in Edinburgh this summer and then an indoor event a few months later to “showcase” the institution to members and the general public. And it is even drafting in a professional PR consultant to teach members how to portray themselves to others – as the Grand Master vows 2018 will be a “positive year for the institution at every level”. The drastic PR plan has been described in the latest issue of The Torch, the self-professed official journal of the Loyal Orange Institution of Scotland. In the publication, The Torch says: “The baleful attitude of much of the Scottish media towards the Order, and how to tackle it, will form the basis of a media and public relations seminar in the spring. In 2015, the organisation attempted a similar stunt – holding an event dubbed “Orangefest” in Glasgow’s George Square to meet and greet the public. But the rally, set to show their movement “warts and all”, was faced with 25,000 signatures from people opposing it. Last year, 4,500 Protestants marched from the city’s George Square to the park The event is expected to take the form of a “how others see us” forum led by a professional PR consultant. An all-day conference will be held in a hotel for officers of Grand Lodge, County Grand Lodge and other leading figures. The Orange Order is set to host the 46th triennial conference of the Imperial Orange Council this July. The council will convene for from July 2-6 in a hotel next to the Scottish Parliament. The Torch says the “high-ranking and exotic visitors” will include people from the US, Australia and Ghana, as well as throughout the UK. The charm offensive comes after the Grand Orange Lodge went on the attack over media coverage of “disgusting” Nazi costume pics – but refused to apologise. Images showed a number of men, women and children dressed up in sickening outfits reportedly dating from 2010 and 2013. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2171622/orange-order-charm-offensive-negative-public-image/
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Bankier sitting down to Burns Supper with Theresa May at Downing Street and other Tory Glitterati ! WTF? Spoiler: click to toggle Such A Parcel Of Rogues In A Nation
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Fareweel to a' our Scottish fame, Fareweel our ancient glory; Fareweel ev'n to the Scottish name, Sae fam'd in martial story. Now Sark rins over Solway sands, An' Tweed rins to the ocean, To mark where England's province stands- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
What force or guile could not subdue, Thro' many warlike ages, Is wrought now by a coward few, For hireling traitor's wages. The English stell we could disdain, Secure in valour's station; But English gold has been our bane- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
O would, or I had seen the day That Treason thus could sell us, My auld grey head had lien in clay, Wi' Bruce and loyal Wallace! But pith and power, till my last hour, I'll mak this declaration; We're bought and sold for English gold- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
Read that today on Twitter, carrot needs hunted from our club. Dermot Desmond paid £50,000 to sit down to dinner with Cameron when he was PM - should he be hunted as well
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Bankier sitting down to Burns Supper with Theresa May at Downing Street and other Tory Glitterati ! WTF? Spoiler: click to toggle Such A Parcel Of Rogues In A Nation
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Fareweel to a' our Scottish fame, Fareweel our ancient glory; Fareweel ev'n to the Scottish name, Sae fam'd in martial story. Now Sark rins over Solway sands, An' Tweed rins to the ocean, To mark where England's province stands- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
What force or guile could not subdue, Thro' many warlike ages, Is wrought now by a coward few, For hireling traitor's wages. The English stell we could disdain, Secure in valour's station; But English gold has been our bane- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
O would, or I had seen the day That Treason thus could sell us, My auld grey head had lien in clay, Wi' Bruce and loyal Wallace! But pith and power, till my last hour, I'll mak this declaration; We're bought and sold for English gold- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
Read that today on Twitter, carrot needs hunted from our club.
Dermot Desmond paid £50,000 to sit down to dinner with Cameron when he was PM - should he be hunted as well a club open to all ... unless your a Tory.
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2 Feb 2018, 10:11 AM
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The Radisson Blu on the High Street no doubt
Also gives them the opportunity to proudly march with dignity down the Royal Mile to the Parliament while doffing their bowler hats to Holyrood Palace across the road.
carrots.
Edit - meant to quote Gothamcelt's post
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Hope no one has booked a hotel near the Scottish Parliament around 2nd - 6th July. 'CHARM OFFENSIVE' Orange Order hires PR guru to launch new campaign to tackle its negative public imageIn its declaration for 2018, the ultra-Unionist Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland has vowed it will be a "year of opportunity" as it announces plans to hold international gathering in Edinburgh Spoiler: click to toggle By Laura Murray THE Orange Order is to launch a “charm offensive” to tackle the organisation’s negative image and showcase itself to the public. In its declaration for 2018, the ultra-Unionist Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland has vowed it will be a “year of opportunity” and is said to have entered the new year with a “spring in its step”. The ultra-Unionist organisation will hold an international gathering in Edinburgh this summer and then an indoor event a few months later to “showcase” the institution to members and the general public. And it is even drafting in a professional PR consultant to teach members how to portray themselves to others – as the Grand Master vows 2018 will be a “positive year for the institution at every level”. The drastic PR plan has been described in the latest issue of The Torch, the self-professed official journal of the Loyal Orange Institution of Scotland. In the publication, The Torch says: “The baleful attitude of much of the Scottish media towards the Order, and how to tackle it, will form the basis of a media and public relations seminar in the spring. In 2015, the organisation attempted a similar stunt – holding an event dubbed “Orangefest” in Glasgow’s George Square to meet and greet the public. But the rally, set to show their movement “warts and all”, was faced with 25,000 signatures from people opposing it. Last year, 4,500 Protestants marched from the city’s George Square to the park The event is expected to take the form of a “how others see us” forum led by a professional PR consultant. An all-day conference will be held in a hotel for officers of Grand Lodge, County Grand Lodge and other leading figures. The Orange Order is set to host the 46th triennial conference of the Imperial Orange Council this July. The council will convene for from July 2-6 in a hotel next to the Scottish Parliament. The Torch says the “high-ranking and exotic visitors” will include people from the US, Australia and Ghana, as well as throughout the UK. The charm offensive comes after the Grand Orange Lodge went on the attack over media coverage of “disgusting” Nazi costume pics – but refused to apologise. Images showed a number of men, women and children dressed up in sickening outfits reportedly dating from 2010 and 2013. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2171622/orange-order-charm-offensive-negative-public-image/ I thought they'd already did that with "Orangeman" the superhero
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Hampden yes or no on stv news and it shows you coopers goal V us in the Drybrough cup final ffs . Well, if you're going to do a piece about a nation's national stadium you're going to use footage of one of the most important tournaments ever hosted there -the Dryborough Cup, rather than, oh, I don't know, any of the European Cup finals or semi-finals that took place there. No bias involved.
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we have a hugely popular Politics Thread in our General Forum. Anyone wishing to comment on the state of the nation will find plenty support in there. The thread doesn't need diverted into party politics.
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https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/scotland/stewart-regan-undone-by-series-of-misjudgments-at-sfa-1-4680610 Andrew Smith tells the truth mostly, although I believe the referees strike was more to do with trying to get Dallas reinstated.
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Hampden yes or no on stv news and it shows you coopers goal V us in the Drybrough cup final ffs .
Well, if you're going to do a piece about a nation's national stadium you're going to use footage of one of the most important tournaments ever hosted there -the Dryborough Cup, rather than, oh, I don't know, any of the European Cup finals or semi-finals that took place there. No bias involved. Two articles in today's Herald about the refereeing fraternity. One carries a photo of Scott Brown being booked. The other shows a Fraserburgh player being sent off v Rangers. They have obviously lost the many, many more photos they must have had of Ryan Jack or Kyle Lafferty making the refs earn their corn.
Yet another puff piece following on from McRorie's claim that he has the mentality to be at a club like Rangers (nothing to boast about, I'd say), this one has Windass explaining how great the team spirit is.
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