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18 Jan 2018, 09:04 PM
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- 18 Jan 2018, 08:04 PM
Commons is absolutely entitled to his opinion. However he should have made enough money from the game and us in particular, that he shouldn’t have to chase money, unlike some players from previous eras. In terms of his punditry he comes across as pretty nervous and almost tongue tied. Like many he never really says anything fresh or insightful, so he will probably have a gig for life It’s not about money ITs about him. Absolutely loves himself and being on TV must be right up his street.
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18 Jan 2018, 11:50 PM
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http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2017-09-27/former-celtic-kit-man-pleads-guilty-over-sex-charge/ UTV news just referred to him as 'Celtic kit man' - inferring him being the current kitman The video accompanying the story had him wearing a hibs top too
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19 Jan 2018, 08:56 AM
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Most have a few interesting stories to tell.
WHISTLEBLOWER Former SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny claims he raised case against referee ‘for fabricating report’ and reveals Rangers gave him biggest challenge in the job In a stunning revelation the former Hampden disciplinary chief tells how he raised a case against a ref over his belief accusations a manager shouted and swore at a whistler were 'made up
Spoiler: click to toggle By Scott MacArthur EX-SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny says he once raised a case against a referee he suspected of fabricating a report. Lunny was the first to hold the title at Hampden and spent three years in the role before leaving to train to become an advocate in 2014. But he has now opened up about one of the most difficult periods he endured during his time at Hampden. Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: “I did have a fall out with the head of the Referees’ Association at one point. Hear the full interview: http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05v6m32 “There was one quite difficult case I remember where a manager was accused of fairly aggressive shouting and swearing at a referee and the evidence suggested that that might be made up. “And I raised a case against the referee for fabricating a report, which became very difficult and in the end the panel was not satisfied that the breach was made out but that was a difficult time. “For the referee, his career as a referee would be finished and the Referees’ Association were not happy with me at all for taking this forward. “But from a lawyer’s point of view and trying to be as independent as you can you’re given a situation and given witness statements that pointed in that direction and I, as my duty was, was to take that forward.” Asked if he thought he had a strong case, Lunny replied: “I thought it was but the panel didn’t agree.” On his most difficult case throughout his entire time at Hampden, Lunny revealed the Rangers and Craig Whyte sagas were the most challenging He said: “I think the Rangers case with two complaints running in tandem against Rangers and Craig Whyte for not paying the tax. “That would’ve been May 2012 and it ran for several days. “It was then appealed and appealed and ended up in court and that was a very difficult case at the time.” A Scottish FA spokesman said: “On March 4, 2014 a Notice of Complaint was raised against a match official alleging breaches of then Rule 86 (‘failing to act in the best interests of football’). “The Notice of Complaint related to the terms of a Team Staff Misconduct Report submitted by the match official in respect to a match in the East of Scotland First Division and subsequent evidence given by the match official. “The Notice of Complaint raised against the match official was dismissed by a Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal at a Principal Hearing on March 26, 2014.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2109903/vincent-lunny-sfa-compliance-officer-referee-fabricating-report/
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19 Jan 2018, 11:52 AM
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- Gothamcelt
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Most have a few interesting stories to tell. WHISTLEBLOWER Former SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny claims he raised case against referee ‘for fabricating report’ and reveals Rangers gave him biggest challenge in the jobIn a stunning revelation the former Hampden disciplinary chief tells how he raised a case against a ref over his belief accusations a manager shouted and swore at a whistler were 'made up Spoiler: click to toggle By Scott MacArthur EX-SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny says he once raised a case against a referee he suspected of fabricating a report. Lunny was the first to hold the title at Hampden and spent three years in the role before leaving to train to become an advocate in 2014. But he has now opened up about one of the most difficult periods he endured during his time at Hampden. Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: “I did have a fall out with the head of the Referees’ Association at one point. Hear the full interview: http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05v6m32 “There was one quite difficult case I remember where a manager was accused of fairly aggressive shouting and swearing at a referee and the evidence suggested that that might be made up. “And I raised a case against the referee for fabricating a report, which became very difficult and in the end the panel was not satisfied that the breach was made out but that was a difficult time. “For the referee, his career as a referee would be finished and the Referees’ Association were not happy with me at all for taking this forward. “But from a lawyer’s point of view and trying to be as independent as you can you’re given a situation and given witness statements that pointed in that direction and I, as my duty was, was to take that forward.” Asked if he thought he had a strong case, Lunny replied: “I thought it was but the panel didn’t agree.” On his most difficult case throughout his entire time at Hampden, Lunny revealed the Rangers and Craig Whyte sagas were the most challenging He said: “I think the Rangers case with two complaints running in tandem against Rangers and Craig Whyte for not paying the tax. “That would’ve been May 2012 and it ran for several days. “It was then appealed and appealed and ended up in court and that was a very difficult case at the time.” A Scottish FA spokesman said: “On March 4, 2014 a Notice of Complaint was raised against a match official alleging breaches of then Rule 86 (‘failing to act in the best interests of football’). “The Notice of Complaint related to the terms of a Team Staff Misconduct Report submitted by the match official in respect to a match in the East of Scotland First Division and subsequent evidence given by the match official. “The Notice of Complaint raised against the match official was dismissed by a Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal at a Principal Hearing on March 26, 2014.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2109903/vincent-lunny-sfa-compliance-officer-referee-fabricating-report/… Quelle Surprise
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19 Jan 2018, 12:48 PM
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- Gothamcelt
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Most have a few interesting stories to tell. WHISTLEBLOWER Former SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny claims he raised case against referee ‘for fabricating report’ and reveals Rangers gave him biggest challenge in the jobIn a stunning revelation the former Hampden disciplinary chief tells how he raised a case against a ref over his belief accusations a manager shouted and swore at a whistler were 'made up Spoiler: click to toggle By Scott MacArthur EX-SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny says he once raised a case against a referee he suspected of fabricating a report. Lunny was the first to hold the title at Hampden and spent three years in the role before leaving to train to become an advocate in 2014. But he has now opened up about one of the most difficult periods he endured during his time at Hampden. Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: “I did have a fall out with the head of the Referees’ Association at one point. Hear the full interview: http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05v6m32 “There was one quite difficult case I remember where a manager was accused of fairly aggressive shouting and swearing at a referee and the evidence suggested that that might be made up. “And I raised a case against the referee for fabricating a report, which became very difficult and in the end the panel was not satisfied that the breach was made out but that was a difficult time. “For the referee, his career as a referee would be finished and the Referees’ Association were not happy with me at all for taking this forward. “But from a lawyer’s point of view and trying to be as independent as you can you’re given a situation and given witness statements that pointed in that direction and I, as my duty was, was to take that forward.” Asked if he thought he had a strong case, Lunny replied: “I thought it was but the panel didn’t agree.” On his most difficult case throughout his entire time at Hampden, Lunny revealed the Rangers and Craig Whyte sagas were the most challenging He said: “I think the Rangers case with two complaints running in tandem against Rangers and Craig Whyte for not paying the tax. “That would’ve been May 2012 and it ran for several days. “It was then appealed and appealed and ended up in court and that was a very difficult case at the time.” A Scottish FA spokesman said: “On March 4, 2014 a Notice of Complaint was raised against a match official alleging breaches of then Rule 86 (‘failing to act in the best interests of football’). “The Notice of Complaint related to the terms of a Team Staff Misconduct Report submitted by the match official in respect to a match in the East of Scotland First Division and subsequent evidence given by the match official. “The Notice of Complaint raised against the match official was dismissed by a Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal at a Principal Hearing on March 26, 2014.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2109903/vincent-lunny-sfa-compliance-officer-referee-fabricating-report/… Not sure about the time line but didn't Celtic Underground or Phil or something like that not do a piece hinting at this back in the Lennon seasons.
Nothing came of it at the time and I always just put it down to made up bullshampoo but maybe it was this or something similar. Pretty certain it was to do with Celtic and the honest mistakes though.
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19 Jan 2018, 01:05 PM
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- JCBhoy
- 18 Jan 2018, 07:39 PM
A headline on the front page of today's Evening Times:
"Driving rap for ex-Celt"
It's Pat Crerrand.....who left Celtic in 1963 He was flabbergasted when I didn't know who he was before the Old Trafford Giggs diving sister in law shagging cheating bastard game. Auld bawbag.
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19 Jan 2018, 01:37 PM
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- 18 Jan 2018, 03:48 PM
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- 18 Jan 2018, 03:47 PM
I'm genuinely annoyed with Commons  Both he and his wife appeared to buy into the club and what it stood for and I thought he would provide some good football analysis and at least back the club he played for. Unfortunately, just like Walker, he has became another crawler who would say anything to appease his employers and slander our club.
Kris commons cares about Kris commons. As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be...
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19 Jan 2018, 02:18 PM
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- 19 Jan 2018, 08:56 AM
Most have a few interesting stories to tell. WHISTLEBLOWER Former SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny claims he raised case against referee ‘for fabricating report’ and reveals Rangers gave him biggest challenge in the jobIn a stunning revelation the former Hampden disciplinary chief tells how he raised a case against a ref over his belief accusations a manager shouted and swore at a whistler were 'made up Spoiler: click to toggle By Scott MacArthur EX-SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny says he once raised a case against a referee he suspected of fabricating a report. Lunny was the first to hold the title at Hampden and spent three years in the role before leaving to train to become an advocate in 2014. But he has now opened up about one of the most difficult periods he endured during his time at Hampden. Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: “I did have a fall out with the head of the Referees’ Association at one point. Hear the full interview: http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05v6m32 “There was one quite difficult case I remember where a manager was accused of fairly aggressive shouting and swearing at a referee and the evidence suggested that that might be made up. “And I raised a case against the referee for fabricating a report, which became very difficult and in the end the panel was not satisfied that the breach was made out but that was a difficult time. “For the referee, his career as a referee would be finished and the Referees’ Association were not happy with me at all for taking this forward. “But from a lawyer’s point of view and trying to be as independent as you can you’re given a situation and given witness statements that pointed in that direction and I, as my duty was, was to take that forward.” Asked if he thought he had a strong case, Lunny replied: “I thought it was but the panel didn’t agree.” On his most difficult case throughout his entire time at Hampden, Lunny revealed the Rangers and Craig Whyte sagas were the most challenging He said: “I think the Rangers case with two complaints running in tandem against Rangers and Craig Whyte for not paying the tax. “That would’ve been May 2012 and it ran for several days. “It was then appealed and appealed and ended up in court and that was a very difficult case at the time.” A Scottish FA spokesman said: “On March 4, 2014 a Notice of Complaint was raised against a match official alleging breaches of then Rule 86 (‘failing to act in the best interests of football’). “The Notice of Complaint related to the terms of a Team Staff Misconduct Report submitted by the match official in respect to a match in the East of Scotland First Division and subsequent evidence given by the match official. “The Notice of Complaint raised against the match official was dismissed by a Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal at a Principal Hearing on March 26, 2014.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2109903/vincent-lunny-sfa-compliance-officer-referee-fabricating-report/… Thought that was about Andrew Dallas there but the SFA say no
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19 Jan 2018, 02:31 PM
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- 19 Jan 2018, 12:48 PM
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Most have a few interesting stories to tell. WHISTLEBLOWER Former SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny claims he raised case against referee ‘for fabricating report’ and reveals Rangers gave him biggest challenge in the jobIn a stunning revelation the former Hampden disciplinary chief tells how he raised a case against a ref over his belief accusations a manager shouted and swore at a whistler were 'made up Spoiler: click to toggle By Scott MacArthur EX-SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny says he once raised a case against a referee he suspected of fabricating a report. Lunny was the first to hold the title at Hampden and spent three years in the role before leaving to train to become an advocate in 2014. But he has now opened up about one of the most difficult periods he endured during his time at Hampden. Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: “I did have a fall out with the head of the Referees’ Association at one point. Hear the full interview: http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05v6m32 “There was one quite difficult case I remember where a manager was accused of fairly aggressive shouting and swearing at a referee and the evidence suggested that that might be made up. “And I raised a case against the referee for fabricating a report, which became very difficult and in the end the panel was not satisfied that the breach was made out but that was a difficult time. “For the referee, his career as a referee would be finished and the Referees’ Association were not happy with me at all for taking this forward. “But from a lawyer’s point of view and trying to be as independent as you can you’re given a situation and given witness statements that pointed in that direction and I, as my duty was, was to take that forward.” Asked if he thought he had a strong case, Lunny replied: “I thought it was but the panel didn’t agree.” On his most difficult case throughout his entire time at Hampden, Lunny revealed the Rangers and Craig Whyte sagas were the most challenging He said: “I think the Rangers case with two complaints running in tandem against Rangers and Craig Whyte for not paying the tax. “That would’ve been May 2012 and it ran for several days. “It was then appealed and appealed and ended up in court and that was a very difficult case at the time.” A Scottish FA spokesman said: “On March 4, 2014 a Notice of Complaint was raised against a match official alleging breaches of then Rule 86 (‘failing to act in the best interests of football’). “The Notice of Complaint related to the terms of a Team Staff Misconduct Report submitted by the match official in respect to a match in the East of Scotland First Division and subsequent evidence given by the match official. “The Notice of Complaint raised against the match official was dismissed by a Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal at a Principal Hearing on March 26, 2014.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2109903/vincent-lunny-sfa-compliance-officer-referee-fabricating-report/…
Not sure about the time line but didn't Celtic Underground or Phil or something like that not do a piece hinting at this back in the Lennon seasons. Nothing came of it at the time and I always just put it down to made up bullshampoo but maybe it was this or something similar. Pretty certain it was to do with Celtic and the honest mistakes though. Don’t think it was senior leagues it happened.
Happens even at youth level. I know of one referee who was man in the middle for an u15s match. In his match report it was stated he sent a boy off for running up to his face and directly swearing at him for allowing a goal to stand. The boy who got sent off denied going anywhere near the ref or swearing at him. One of the teams involved had posted a video of the goal on twitter and the evidence not only supported what the lad had said but showed the ref running towards the player and sending him off. The club involved was persuaded not to take it any further.
The ref is a policeman.
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19 Jan 2018, 02:58 PM
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Most have a few interesting stories to tell. WHISTLEBLOWER Former SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny claims he raised case against referee ‘for fabricating report’ and reveals Rangers gave him biggest challenge in the jobIn a stunning revelation the former Hampden disciplinary chief tells how he raised a case against a ref over his belief accusations a manager shouted and swore at a whistler were 'made up Spoiler: click to toggle By Scott MacArthur EX-SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny says he once raised a case against a referee he suspected of fabricating a report. Lunny was the first to hold the title at Hampden and spent three years in the role before leaving to train to become an advocate in 2014. But he has now opened up about one of the most difficult periods he endured during his time at Hampden. Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: “I did have a fall out with the head of the Referees’ Association at one point. Hear the full interview: http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05v6m32 “There was one quite difficult case I remember where a manager was accused of fairly aggressive shouting and swearing at a referee and the evidence suggested that that might be made up. “And I raised a case against the referee for fabricating a report, which became very difficult and in the end the panel was not satisfied that the breach was made out but that was a difficult time. “For the referee, his career as a referee would be finished and the Referees’ Association were not happy with me at all for taking this forward. “But from a lawyer’s point of view and trying to be as independent as you can you’re given a situation and given witness statements that pointed in that direction and I, as my duty was, was to take that forward.” Asked if he thought he had a strong case, Lunny replied: “I thought it was but the panel didn’t agree.” On his most difficult case throughout his entire time at Hampden, Lunny revealed the Rangers and Craig Whyte sagas were the most challenging He said: “I think the Rangers case with two complaints running in tandem against Rangers and Craig Whyte for not paying the tax. “That would’ve been May 2012 and it ran for several days. “It was then appealed and appealed and ended up in court and that was a very difficult case at the time.” A Scottish FA spokesman said: “On March 4, 2014 a Notice of Complaint was raised against a match official alleging breaches of then Rule 86 (‘failing to act in the best interests of football’). “The Notice of Complaint related to the terms of a Team Staff Misconduct Report submitted by the match official in respect to a match in the East of Scotland First Division and subsequent evidence given by the match official. “The Notice of Complaint raised against the match official was dismissed by a Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal at a Principal Hearing on March 26, 2014.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2109903/vincent-lunny-sfa-compliance-officer-referee-fabricating-report/…
Not sure about the time line but didn't Celtic Underground or Phil or something like that not do a piece hinting at this back in the Lennon seasons. Nothing came of it at the time and I always just put it down to made up bullshampoo but maybe it was this or something similar. Pretty certain it was to do with Celtic and the honest mistakes though.
Don’t think it was senior leagues it happened. Happens even at youth level. I know of one referee who was man in the middle for an u15s match. In his match report it was stated he sent a boy off for running up to his face and directly swearing at him for allowing a goal to stand. The boy who got sent off denied going anywhere near the ref or swearing at him. One of the teams involved had posted a video of the goal on twitter and the evidence not only supported what the lad had said but showed the ref running towards the player and sending him off. The club involved was persuaded not to take it any further. The ref is a policeman. Old habits and all that.
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23 Jan 2018, 10:17 AM
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Yes, Keith unlike you, Regan has made many mistakes. You were all over this, weren't you? They took a turn for the worse throughout the Rangers banter years when he was seemingly oblivious to the financial carnage being carried out inside Ibrox by Craig Whyte, then predicted social unrest was about to spill onto our streets while signing off on a secretive five way agreement with Charlie ‘Big Hands’ Green
We've hit rock bottom under Stewart Regan, for god's sake just go - Keith Jackson Keith says Regan has been in charge for so many errors and must leave the job for the sake of Scottish football.
Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson For God’s sake just go. Close the door behind you on the way out and don’t bother looking back. You’ve caused nothing but misery and embarrassment from the start but this latest humiliation is one too many. A knock back from the Portadown Pep? In full public view? If Stewart Regan possesses even the slightest regard for the welfare and credibility of Scottish football then surely, now that he has brought our sense of self worth crashing to rock bottom, he will be kind enough to leave us alone. Just go. Have the good grace to allow us to lick our wounds and get on about the job of fixing the abominable mess that you have left behind. Please. We’re begging you here. Because for a moment yesterday lunchtime, just when Michael O’Neill attempted to pat our Scottish heads with a patronising thank you note, it was possible to feel the watching world curling its toes on our behalf. Truly Stewart, we do not deserve you. We never have. These last seven and half years of unrelenting incompetence have been a tortuous affair. They began badly when Regan came close to getting football stopped in his first few months in office and resorted to bussing in match officials from Malta, Isreal, Poland, Portugal and Luxemburg. They took a turn for the worse throughout the Rangers banter years when he was seemingly oblivious to the financial carnage being carried out inside Ibrox by Craig Whyte, then predicted social unrest was about to spill onto our streets while signing off on a secretive five way agreement with Charlie ‘Big Hands’ Green All the while, Regan’s big plan to regenerate the game in this country from grassroots level up were being passed from one performance director to the next - being ripped up and rewritten in the process and then blocked at every turn. Project Brave? He couldn’t even give it a cool name never mind actually deliver anything meaningful from it. But now that he has sacked the one manager who might have been actually taking us somewhere and left us drifting up the creek without a paddle, the time has finally come to call this relationship out for what it really is. A wretched, unredeemable mistake. A sustained period of abject failure, during which all manner of World Cups and European Championships have passed us by - along with millions upon millions of pounds. It’s been an agonising descent to the bottom which has now culminated in costing us the very last shred of Scotland’s pride along with all that missing lolly. We can’t say we weren’t warned either. This is the same Stewart Regan, after all, who shambled into our lives on the back of overseeing an unmitigated disaster in his previous gig with Yorkshire Cricket Club - leaving colleagues fearing for their livelihoods as he bolted for cover across the border. Regan left them staring at a financial crisis, three quarters of a million pounds out of pocket after becoming the first chief executive in the history of the game to lose money from staging a test match involving the Aussies. And that was a sport he knew something about. Now he’s bowled us the ultimate googly in his hapless pursuit of a manager who was losing more games than he was winning at Brechin City just nine years ago. There is no question that O’Neill has gone on to work managerial wonders in his post with Northern Ireland but the way Regan went hurtling headfirst after him always seemed unnecessarily risky and completely unedifying. Why on earth did he single this man out above all others when O’Neill - whose only other job in management was at Shamrock Rovers - has such a less than remarkable track record? Did anyone other than Regan seriously believe that O’Neill should be packaged up and presented to the public as the only possible show in town? Actually, scrub that. There will have been at least one man who will have seen the sense in this cack-handed strategy and will have been nodding along in agreement. SFA President Alan McRae - a man who struggles to pull a ball out of a glass pot - has developed an astonishing habit of making Regan look like a shrewd operator and it was no surprise that he blundered his way into the botched approach for O’Neill. It was reported that the Northern Irishman met with both of these Hampden big hitters before deciding that his own interests would be better served trying to make an international striker out of Josh Magennis than working for the pair of them. If Regan wanted to put O’Neill off the idea of becoming Gordon Strachan’s successor then he could not have planned it any better than he did by bringing the office oaf along for the ride through to Edinburgh. There won’t have been a road trip like this since Lloyd Christmas met Harry Dunne but this three hour meeting at the other end of the M8 may just have convinced O’Neill that he is way too smart to get involved in something as amateurish as this. In any case, he had played them like fiddles from the start in order to force the hand of his bosses at the Irish FA, who were prepared to present him with a six year contract before allowing him to check what as on offer from the competition. O’Neill played a blinder. Regan ran the lot of us up a blind alley. And now he leaves us here, stranded without a manager and attempting to get our heads around how this could have happened to us just when things were starting to look so much better than before. Let’s not forget here that Strachan negotiated Scotland’s path all the way through 2017 without suffering one single defeat. In the end not even that was not good enough to secure a ticket to the World Cup but this group of players looked all set for the next tilt at the Euros, a tournament which is so easily accessible that you’ll need to throw a double six NOT to make the cut. But Regan pulled the rug out from under Strachan’s feet much to the infuriation of almost all of the manger’s stalwarts inside the dressing room. And now he’s left these players hanging too by failing to find them a replacement. It really is an extraordinary state of affairs and, even worse, there is a deeply held suspicion that Regan has blundered spectacularly here as part of a box ticking exercise and an agreement he has hatched with the Scottish government and Sport Scotland. When they ploughed millions of tax payers’ money into building a centre of sporting excellence the Oriam on the outskirts of Edinburgh, Regan was encouraged to ensure that Strachan and his players showcased the facility by making it their permanent base. When Strachan pointed out that making the move across country would expose his players to the perils of rush hour traffic on the M8, every time they had a midweek fixture at Hampden, it was suggested to him that they could simply up sticks the night before the match. Not a thought was given to the squad’s established routines and preparations such as video analysis and pre-match rub downs and Strachan was simply unwilling to rip it all up in order that Regan could save face with the politicians at the house on the hill. Could Strachan’s stubborn refusal to move his squad out of their established HQ in Renfrewshire - a place where his players felt perfectly at home - have been the real reason Regan was so quick to pull the trigger on the manager and drag us into this latest national cringefest? And was O’Neill’s fondness for the coffee shop scene in Edinburgh, where he laid down his family roots some years ago, in fact one of the driving factors behind this otherwise absurd, unseemly rush to nick him from his own homeland? If any of this is even remotely close to being the case then Regan should not merely be asked to do the right thing and fall on his sword, he should be huckled out of the building this morning by his oxters and evicted from the premises for good. Either way, Scottish football must be spared from his ineptitude. We have been made to suffer more than enough. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/weve-hit-rock-bottom-under-11896747
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Shortbread was entertaining last night, Stewart and English going at it over the SFA. Couldn't quite tell whether English really believed what he was saying in defending them or if he was at it for an argument.
Commons claimed he was surprised at the headlines last week as it wasn't what he said.
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23 Jan 2018, 10:40 AM
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Shortbread was entertaining last night, Stewart and English going at it over the SFA. Couldn't quite tell whether English really believed what he was saying in defending them or if he was at it for an argument.
Commons claimed he was surprised at the headlines last week as it wasn't what he said. Listened to the podcast version of this. Sounded like English has a very personal beef with Stewart. Got very heated. Talked over him, accused him of doing no reasearch and basically asserted Stewart was just spouting shampooe. Most entertaining.
Commons is thick as. I don't mind ex players finding their feet but eff me he is not suited for radio. Got asked if he had any alternatives for the Scotland job - his response was basically that since they'd been concentrating on O'Neill for 100 days he hadn't thought about any alternatives. You're going on a show where the main topic of conversation will be the Scotland job. Do some effing prep. Wage thief.
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23 Jan 2018, 10:46 AM
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Yes, Keith unlike you, Regan has made many mistakes. You were all over this, weren't you? They took a turn for the worse throughout the Rangers banter years when he was seemingly oblivious to the financial carnage being carried out inside Ibrox by Craig Whyte, then predicted social unrest was about to spill onto our streets while signing off on a secretive five way agreement with Charlie ‘Big Hands’ Green We've hit rock bottom under Stewart Regan, for god's sake just go - Keith JacksonKeith says Regan has been in charge for so many errors and must leave the job for the sake of Scottish football. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson For God’s sake just go. Close the door behind you on the way out and don’t bother looking back. You’ve caused nothing but misery and embarrassment from the start but this latest humiliation is one too many. A knock back from the Portadown Pep? In full public view? If Stewart Regan possesses even the slightest regard for the welfare and credibility of Scottish football then surely, now that he has brought our sense of self worth crashing to rock bottom, he will be kind enough to leave us alone. Just go. Have the good grace to allow us to lick our wounds and get on about the job of fixing the abominable mess that you have left behind. Please. We’re begging you here. Because for a moment yesterday lunchtime, just when Michael O’Neill attempted to pat our Scottish heads with a patronising thank you note, it was possible to feel the watching world curling its toes on our behalf. Truly Stewart, we do not deserve you. We never have. These last seven and half years of unrelenting incompetence have been a tortuous affair. They began badly when Regan came close to getting football stopped in his first few months in office and resorted to bussing in match officials from Malta, Isreal, Poland, Portugal and Luxemburg. They took a turn for the worse throughout the Rangers banter years when he was seemingly oblivious to the financial carnage being carried out inside Ibrox by Craig Whyte, then predicted social unrest was about to spill onto our streets while signing off on a secretive five way agreement with Charlie ‘Big Hands’ Green All the while, Regan’s big plan to regenerate the game in this country from grassroots level up were being passed from one performance director to the next - being ripped up and rewritten in the process and then blocked at every turn. Project Brave? He couldn’t even give it a cool name never mind actually deliver anything meaningful from it. But now that he has sacked the one manager who might have been actually taking us somewhere and left us drifting up the creek without a paddle, the time has finally come to call this relationship out for what it really is. A wretched, unredeemable mistake. A sustained period of abject failure, during which all manner of World Cups and European Championships have passed us by - along with millions upon millions of pounds. It’s been an agonising descent to the bottom which has now culminated in costing us the very last shred of Scotland’s pride along with all that missing lolly. We can’t say we weren’t warned either. This is the same Stewart Regan, after all, who shambled into our lives on the back of overseeing an unmitigated disaster in his previous gig with Yorkshire Cricket Club - leaving colleagues fearing for their livelihoods as he bolted for cover across the border. Regan left them staring at a financial crisis, three quarters of a million pounds out of pocket after becoming the first chief executive in the history of the game to lose money from staging a test match involving the Aussies. And that was a sport he knew something about. Now he’s bowled us the ultimate googly in his hapless pursuit of a manager who was losing more games than he was winning at Brechin City just nine years ago. There is no question that O’Neill has gone on to work managerial wonders in his post with Northern Ireland but the way Regan went hurtling headfirst after him always seemed unnecessarily risky and completely unedifying. Why on earth did he single this man out above all others when O’Neill - whose only other job in management was at Shamrock Rovers - has such a less than remarkable track record? Did anyone other than Regan seriously believe that O’Neill should be packaged up and presented to the public as the only possible show in town? Actually, scrub that. There will have been at least one man who will have seen the sense in this cack-handed strategy and will have been nodding along in agreement. SFA President Alan McRae - a man who struggles to pull a ball out of a glass pot - has developed an astonishing habit of making Regan look like a shrewd operator and it was no surprise that he blundered his way into the botched approach for O’Neill. It was reported that the Northern Irishman met with both of these Hampden big hitters before deciding that his own interests would be better served trying to make an international striker out of Josh Magennis than working for the pair of them. If Regan wanted to put O’Neill off the idea of becoming Gordon Strachan’s successor then he could not have planned it any better than he did by bringing the office oaf along for the ride through to Edinburgh. There won’t have been a road trip like this since Lloyd Christmas met Harry Dunne but this three hour meeting at the other end of the M8 may just have convinced O’Neill that he is way too smart to get involved in something as amateurish as this. In any case, he had played them like fiddles from the start in order to force the hand of his bosses at the Irish FA, who were prepared to present him with a six year contract before allowing him to check what as on offer from the competition. O’Neill played a blinder. Regan ran the lot of us up a blind alley. And now he leaves us here, stranded without a manager and attempting to get our heads around how this could have happened to us just when things were starting to look so much better than before. Let’s not forget here that Strachan negotiated Scotland’s path all the way through 2017 without suffering one single defeat. In the end not even that was not good enough to secure a ticket to the World Cup but this group of players looked all set for the next tilt at the Euros, a tournament which is so easily accessible that you’ll need to throw a double six NOT to make the cut. But Regan pulled the rug out from under Strachan’s feet much to the infuriation of almost all of the manger’s stalwarts inside the dressing room. And now he’s left these players hanging too by failing to find them a replacement. It really is an extraordinary state of affairs and, even worse, there is a deeply held suspicion that Regan has blundered spectacularly here as part of a box ticking exercise and an agreement he has hatched with the Scottish government and Sport Scotland. When they ploughed millions of tax payers’ money into building a centre of sporting excellence the Oriam on the outskirts of Edinburgh, Regan was encouraged to ensure that Strachan and his players showcased the facility by making it their permanent base. When Strachan pointed out that making the move across country would expose his players to the perils of rush hour traffic on the M8, every time they had a midweek fixture at Hampden, it was suggested to him that they could simply up sticks the night before the match. Not a thought was given to the squad’s established routines and preparations such as video analysis and pre-match rub downs and Strachan was simply unwilling to rip it all up in order that Regan could save face with the politicians at the house on the hill. Could Strachan’s stubborn refusal to move his squad out of their established HQ in Renfrewshire - a place where his players felt perfectly at home - have been the real reason Regan was so quick to pull the trigger on the manager and drag us into this latest national cringefest? And was O’Neill’s fondness for the coffee shop scene in Edinburgh, where he laid down his family roots some years ago, in fact one of the driving factors behind this otherwise absurd, unseemly rush to nick him from his own homeland? If any of this is even remotely close to being the case then Regan should not merely be asked to do the right thing and fall on his sword, he should be huckled out of the building this morning by his oxters and evicted from the premises for good. Either way, Scottish football must be spared from his ineptitude. We have been made to suffer more than enough. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/weve-hit-rock-bottom-under-11896747 Stopped reading at “Portadown Pep”
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23 Jan 2018, 10:55 AM
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Yes, Keith unlike you, Regan has made many mistakes. You were all over this, weren't you? They took a turn for the worse throughout the Rangers banter years when he was seemingly oblivious to the financial carnage being carried out inside Ibrox by Craig Whyte, then predicted social unrest was about to spill onto our streets while signing off on a secretive five way agreement with Charlie ‘Big Hands’ Green We've hit rock bottom under Stewart Regan, for god's sake just go - Keith JacksonKeith says Regan has been in charge for so many errors and must leave the job for the sake of Scottish football. Spoiler: click to toggle ByKeith Jackson For God’s sake just go. Close the door behind you on the way out and don’t bother looking back. You’ve caused nothing but misery and embarrassment from the start but this latest humiliation is one too many. A knock back from the Portadown Pep? In full public view? If Stewart Regan possesses even the slightest regard for the welfare and credibility of Scottish football then surely, now that he has brought our sense of self worth crashing to rock bottom, he will be kind enough to leave us alone. Just go. Have the good grace to allow us to lick our wounds and get on about the job of fixing the abominable mess that you have left behind. Please. We’re begging you here. Because for a moment yesterday lunchtime, just when Michael O’Neill attempted to pat our Scottish heads with a patronising thank you note, it was possible to feel the watching world curling its toes on our behalf. Truly Stewart, we do not deserve you. We never have. These last seven and half years of unrelenting incompetence have been a tortuous affair. They began badly when Regan came close to getting football stopped in his first few months in office and resorted to bussing in match officials from Malta, Isreal, Poland, Portugal and Luxemburg. They took a turn for the worse throughout the Rangers banter years when he was seemingly oblivious to the financial carnage being carried out inside Ibrox by Craig Whyte, then predicted social unrest was about to spill onto our streets while signing off on a secretive five way agreement with Charlie ‘Big Hands’ Green All the while, Regan’s big plan to regenerate the game in this country from grassroots level up were being passed from one performance director to the next - being ripped up and rewritten in the process and then blocked at every turn. Project Brave? He couldn’t even give it a cool name never mind actually deliver anything meaningful from it. But now that he has sacked the one manager who might have been actually taking us somewhere and left us drifting up the creek without a paddle, the time has finally come to call this relationship out for what it really is. A wretched, unredeemable mistake. A sustained period of abject failure, during which all manner of World Cups and European Championships have passed us by - along with millions upon millions of pounds. It’s been an agonising descent to the bottom which has now culminated in costing us the very last shred of Scotland’s pride along with all that missing lolly. We can’t say we weren’t warned either. This is the same Stewart Regan, after all, who shambled into our lives on the back of overseeing an unmitigated disaster in his previous gig with Yorkshire Cricket Club - leaving colleagues fearing for their livelihoods as he bolted for cover across the border. Regan left them staring at a financial crisis, three quarters of a million pounds out of pocket after becoming the first chief executive in the history of the game to lose money from staging a test match involving the Aussies. And that was a sport he knew something about. Now he’s bowled us the ultimate googly in his hapless pursuit of a manager who was losing more games than he was winning at Brechin City just nine years ago. There is no question that O’Neill has gone on to work managerial wonders in his post with Northern Ireland but the way Regan went hurtling headfirst after him always seemed unnecessarily risky and completely unedifying. Why on earth did he single this man out above all others when O’Neill - whose only other job in management was at Shamrock Rovers - has such a less than remarkable track record? Did anyone other than Regan seriously believe that O’Neill should be packaged up and presented to the public as the only possible show in town? Actually, scrub that. There will have been at least one man who will have seen the sense in this cack-handed strategy and will have been nodding along in agreement. SFA President Alan McRae - a man who struggles to pull a ball out of a glass pot - has developed an astonishing habit of making Regan look like a shrewd operator and it was no surprise that he blundered his way into the botched approach for O’Neill. It was reported that the Northern Irishman met with both of these Hampden big hitters before deciding that his own interests would be better served trying to make an international striker out of Josh Magennis than working for the pair of them. If Regan wanted to put O’Neill off the idea of becoming Gordon Strachan’s successor then he could not have planned it any better than he did by bringing the office oaf along for the ride through to Edinburgh. There won’t have been a road trip like this since Lloyd Christmas met Harry Dunne but this three hour meeting at the other end of the M8 may just have convinced O’Neill that he is way too smart to get involved in something as amateurish as this. In any case, he had played them like fiddles from the start in order to force the hand of his bosses at the Irish FA, who were prepared to present him with a six year contract before allowing him to check what as on offer from the competition. O’Neill played a blinder. Regan ran the lot of us up a blind alley. And now he leaves us here, stranded without a manager and attempting to get our heads around how this could have happened to us just when things were starting to look so much better than before. Let’s not forget here that Strachan negotiated Scotland’s path all the way through 2017 without suffering one single defeat. In the end not even that was not good enough to secure a ticket to the World Cup but this group of players looked all set for the next tilt at the Euros, a tournament which is so easily accessible that you’ll need to throw a double six NOT to make the cut. But Regan pulled the rug out from under Strachan’s feet much to the infuriation of almost all of the manger’s stalwarts inside the dressing room. And now he’s left these players hanging too by failing to find them a replacement. It really is an extraordinary state of affairs and, even worse, there is a deeply held suspicion that Regan has blundered spectacularly here as part of a box ticking exercise and an agreement he has hatched with the Scottish government and Sport Scotland. When they ploughed millions of tax payers’ money into building a centre of sporting excellence the Oriam on the outskirts of Edinburgh, Regan was encouraged to ensure that Strachan and his players showcased the facility by making it their permanent base. When Strachan pointed out that making the move across country would expose his players to the perils of rush hour traffic on the M8, every time they had a midweek fixture at Hampden, it was suggested to him that they could simply up sticks the night before the match. Not a thought was given to the squad’s established routines and preparations such as video analysis and pre-match rub downs and Strachan was simply unwilling to rip it all up in order that Regan could save face with the politicians at the house on the hill. Could Strachan’s stubborn refusal to move his squad out of their established HQ in Renfrewshire - a place where his players felt perfectly at home - have been the real reason Regan was so quick to pull the trigger on the manager and drag us into this latest national cringefest? And was O’Neill’s fondness for the coffee shop scene in Edinburgh, where he laid down his family roots some years ago, in fact one of the driving factors behind this otherwise absurd, unseemly rush to nick him from his own homeland? If any of this is even remotely close to being the case then Regan should not merely be asked to do the right thing and fall on his sword, he should be huckled out of the building this morning by his oxters and evicted from the premises for good. Either way, Scottish football must be spared from his ineptitude. We have been made to suffer more than enough. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/weve-hit-rock-bottom-under-11896747
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23 Jan 2018, 10:58 AM
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When did 'Banter Years' become an accepted term?
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23 Jan 2018, 11:48 AM
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So according to Jackson's logic for the next Scotland manager, if Lenny keeps his flat in Edinburgh he could be in with a shout.
Also interesting to note that those referees who replaced the striking Scottish cheats did not "jet in". They didn't even "fly in".
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23 Jan 2018, 11:58 AM
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When did 'Banter Years' become an accepted term? Beginning of last seasons When Chris Jack penned a fanzine piece published as an article claiming claiming the banter years were over and the days of laughing at rangers were finished. Kind of amusing when you consider that the rag that persists with his drivel will be done before the banter years are.
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Bankier sitting down to Burns Supper with Theresa May at Downing Street and other Tory Glitterati ! WTF?
Spoiler: click to toggle Such A Parcel Of Rogues In A Nation
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Fareweel to a' our Scottish fame, Fareweel our ancient glory; Fareweel ev'n to the Scottish name, Sae fam'd in martial story. Now Sark rins over Solway sands, An' Tweed rins to the ocean, To mark where England's province stands- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
What force or guile could not subdue, Thro' many warlike ages, Is wrought now by a coward few, For hireling traitor's wages. The English stell we could disdain, Secure in valour's station; But English gold has been our bane- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
O would, or I had seen the day That Treason thus could sell us, My auld grey head had lien in clay, Wi' Bruce and loyal Wallace! But pith and power, till my last hour, I'll mak this declaration; We're bought and sold for English gold- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
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Bankier sitting down to Burns Supper with Theresa May at Downing Street and other Tory Glitterati ! WTF? Spoiler: click to toggle Such A Parcel Of Rogues In A Nation
1791 Type: Poem
Fareweel to a' our Scottish fame, Fareweel our ancient glory; Fareweel ev'n to the Scottish name, Sae fam'd in martial story. Now Sark rins over Solway sands, An' Tweed rins to the ocean, To mark where England's province stands- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
What force or guile could not subdue, Thro' many warlike ages, Is wrought now by a coward few, For hireling traitor's wages. The English stell we could disdain, Secure in valour's station; But English gold has been our bane- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
O would, or I had seen the day That Treason thus could sell us, My auld grey head had lien in clay, Wi' Bruce and loyal Wallace! But pith and power, till my last hour, I'll mak this declaration; We're bought and sold for English gold- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation! Read that today on Twitter, carrot needs hunted from our club.
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