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Topic Started: 1 Nov 2017, 11:12 PM (581,152 Views)
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The Hootsman has an opinion piece today claiming that there is an increasing mistrust of journalism by the public. The writer mentions practices like 'nodding' where after an interview takes place, the journalist is filmed nodding as if he or she is actually deeply interested in what the interviewee is saying. (By that stage, the interviewee has long since deaparted for the pub.) That footage is then spliced into the finished interview. Another practice which the writer refers to is 'Christmas boxes' where journalists rehash stories previously sent to them by politicians etc.., over the Christmas period.

These are the reasons why people no longer respect journalists and why readerships are plummeting. His conclusion is that if people want better journalism, they need to pay for it.

Where do you even begin with this shampooe? Well you can begin by simply looking at the 'stories' in the sports section of the very same newspaper in which Jabba's made up pish is dutifully published regarding 'Rangers' transfer activity. Of course Jabba is not credited with it.

Just to pluck one example from thin air, anyone remember the nodding Raman Bawbag on STV after the AGM at Ibrox last year? Plenty of gratuitous nodding during his interviews. But I'm guessing that the more telling coverage of that event was on the BBC where the whole of Scotland witnessed the Bawbag in the background taking his instructions from Jabba Traynor. The same happened after the Hibs v Sevco Cup final where these lickspittles gathered around the fat one - off camera, they thought - to be told what their story should be re Sevco players being assaulted by Hibs fans and Sevco fans only trying to protect their own players by kicking the shampoo out of teenage Hibs fans. So bad was the coverage that Scottish sports hacks had to be corrected by Kenny Miller's wife!

But it's the wally dug nodding that is the problem. Aye right.
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9 Jan 2018, 12:31 PM
The Hootsman has an opinion piece today claiming that there is an increasing mistrust of journalism by the public. The writer mentions practices like 'nodding' where after an interview takes place, the journalist is filmed nodding as if he or she is actually deeply interested in what the interviewee is saying. (By that stage, the interviewee has long since deaparted for the pub.) That footage is then spliced into the finished interview. Another practice which the writer refers to is 'Christmas boxes' where journalists rehash stories previously sent to them by politicians etc.., over the Christmas period.

These are the reasons why people no longer respect journalists and why readerships are plummeting. His conclusion is that if people want better journalism, they need to pay for it.

Where do you even begin with this shampooe? Well you can begin by simply looking at the 'stories' in the sports section of the very same newspaper in which Jabba's made up pish is dutifully published regarding 'Rangers' transfer activity. Of course Jabba is not credited with it.

Just to pluck one example from thin air, anyone remember the nodding Raman Bawbag on STV after the AGM at Ibrox last year? Plenty of gratuitous nodding during his interviews. But I'm guessing that the more telling coverage of that event was on the BBC where the whole of Scotland witnessed the Bawbag in the background taking his instructions from Jabba Traynor. The same happened after the Hibs v Sevco Cup final where these lickspittles gathered around the fat one - off camera, they thought - to be told what their story should be re Sevco players being assaulted by Hibs fans and Sevco fans only trying to protect their own players by kicking the shampoo out of teenage Hibs fans. So bad was the coverage that Scottish sports hacks had to be corrected by Kenny Miller's wife!

But it's the wally dug nodding that is the problem. Aye right.
Not that it changes your point but often interviews are done using one camera - then they film the interviewer later to give them footage from more than one angle and to show them asking the questions.
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9 Jan 2018, 12:31 PM
The Hootsman has an opinion piece today claiming that there is an increasing mistrust of journalism by the public. The writer mentions practices like 'nodding' where after an interview takes place, the journalist is filmed nodding as if he or she is actually deeply interested in what the interviewee is saying. (By that stage, the interviewee has long since deaparted for the pub.) That footage is then spliced into the finished interview. Another practice which the writer refers to is 'Christmas boxes' where journalists rehash stories previously sent to them by politicians etc.., over the Christmas period.

These are the reasons why people no longer respect journalists and why readerships are plummeting. His conclusion is that if people want better journalism, they need to pay for it.

Where do you even begin with this shampooe? Well you can begin by simply looking at the 'stories' in the sports section of the very same newspaper in which Jabba's made up pish is dutifully published regarding 'Rangers' transfer activity. Of course Jabba is not credited with it.

Just to pluck one example from thin air, anyone remember the nodding Raman Bawbag on STV after the AGM at Ibrox last year? Plenty of gratuitous nodding during his interviews. But I'm guessing that the more telling coverage of that event was on the BBC where the whole of Scotland witnessed the Bawbag in the background taking his instructions from Jabba Traynor. The same happened after the Hibs v Sevco Cup final where these lickspittles gathered around the fat one - off camera, they thought - to be told what their story should be re Sevco players being assaulted by Hibs fans and Sevco fans only trying to protect their own players by kicking the shampoo out of teenage Hibs fans. So bad was the coverage that Scottish sports hacks had to be corrected by Kenny Miller's wife!

But it's the wally dug nodding that is the problem. Aye right.
Oh I thought this was a serious attempt at journalism but it's just that fkin Loki idiot.
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9 Jan 2018, 12:31 PM
The Hootsman has an opinion piece today claiming that there is an increasing mistrust of journalism by the public. The writer mentions practices like 'nodding' where after an interview takes place, the journalist is filmed nodding as if he or she is actually deeply interested in what the interviewee is saying. (By that stage, the interviewee has long since deaparted for the pub.) That footage is then spliced into the finished interview. Another practice which the writer refers to is 'Christmas boxes' where journalists rehash stories previously sent to them by politicians etc.., over the Christmas period.

These are the reasons why people no longer respect journalists and why readerships are plummeting. His conclusion is that if people want better journalism, they need to pay for it.

Where do you even begin with this shampooe? Well you can begin by simply looking at the 'stories' in the sports section of the very same newspaper in which Jabba's made up pish is dutifully published regarding 'Rangers' transfer activity. Of course Jabba is not credited with it.

Just to pluck one example from thin air, anyone remember the nodding Raman Bawbag on STV after the AGM at Ibrox last year? Plenty of gratuitous nodding during his interviews. But I'm guessing that the more telling coverage of that event was on the BBC where the whole of Scotland witnessed the Bawbag in the background taking his instructions from Jabba Traynor. The same happened after the Hibs v Sevco Cup final where these lickspittles gathered around the fat one - off camera, they thought - to be told what their story should be re Sevco players being assaulted by Hibs fans and Sevco fans only trying to protect their own players by kicking the shampoo out of teenage Hibs fans. So bad was the coverage that Scottish sports hacks had to be corrected by Kenny Miller's wife!

But it's the wally dug nodding that is the problem. Aye right.
Oh I thought this was a serious attempt at journalism but it's just that fkin Loki idiot.
Good article - https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/darren-mcgarvey-everyday-media-practices-feed-public-s-growing-distrust-of-journalism-1-4656456
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9 Jan 2018, 12:31 PM
The Hootsman has an opinion piece today claiming that there is an increasing mistrust of journalism by the public. The writer mentions practices like 'nodding' where after an interview takes place, the journalist is filmed nodding as if he or she is actually deeply interested in what the interviewee is saying. (By that stage, the interviewee has long since deaparted for the pub.) That footage is then spliced into the finished interview. Another practice which the writer refers to is 'Christmas boxes' where journalists rehash stories previously sent to them by politicians etc.., over the Christmas period.

These are the reasons why people no longer respect journalists and why readerships are plummeting. His conclusion is that if people want better journalism, they need to pay for it.

Where do you even begin with this shampooe? Well you can begin by simply looking at the 'stories' in the sports section of the very same newspaper in which Jabba's made up pish is dutifully published regarding 'Rangers' transfer activity. Of course Jabba is not credited with it.

Just to pluck one example from thin air, anyone remember the nodding Raman Bawbag on STV after the AGM at Ibrox last year? Plenty of gratuitous nodding during his interviews. But I'm guessing that the more telling coverage of that event was on the BBC where the whole of Scotland witnessed the Bawbag in the background taking his instructions from Jabba Traynor. The same happened after the Hibs v Sevco Cup final where these lickspittles gathered around the fat one - off camera, they thought - to be told what their story should be re Sevco players being assaulted by Hibs fans and Sevco fans only trying to protect their own players by kicking the shampoo out of teenage Hibs fans. So bad was the coverage that Scottish sports hacks had to be corrected by Kenny Miller's wife!

But it's the wally dug nodding that is the problem. Aye right.
Oh I thought this was a serious attempt at journalism but it's just that fkin Loki idiot.
Good article - https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/darren-mcgarvey-everyday-media-practices-feed-public-s-growing-distrust-of-journalism-1-4656456
It's OK, usual unqualified shallow understanding of an issue from Darren. Once again his minimal experience with the matter he's writing about somehow gives him startling insights. Usually there's a few 'Now you probably won't want to hear truth like this' type statements in there.
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It's OK, usual unqualified shallow understanding of an issue from Darren. Once again his minimal experience with the matter he's writing about somehow gives him startling insights. Usually there's a few 'Now you probably won't want to hear truth like this' type statements in there.
McGarvey's a terrific writer and, for me, is always worth engaging with. Poverty Safari was the best non fiction book of 2017 (this year, it's going to be Amos Oz, just so's you know).
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The Hootsman has an opinion piece today claiming that there is an increasing mistrust of journalism by the public. The writer mentions practices like 'nodding' where after an interview takes place, the journalist is filmed nodding as if he or she is actually deeply interested in what the interviewee is saying. (By that stage, the interviewee has long since deaparted for the pub.) That footage is then spliced into the finished interview. Another practice which the writer refers to is 'Christmas boxes' where journalists rehash stories previously sent to them by politicians etc.., over the Christmas period.

These are the reasons why people no longer respect journalists and why readerships are plummeting. His conclusion is that if people want better journalism, they need to pay for it.

Where do you even begin with this shampooe? Well you can begin by simply looking at the 'stories' in the sports section of the very same newspaper in which Jabba's made up pish is dutifully published regarding 'Rangers' transfer activity. Of course Jabba is not credited with it.

Just to pluck one example from thin air, anyone remember the nodding Raman Bawbag on STV after the AGM at Ibrox last year? Plenty of gratuitous nodding during his interviews. But I'm guessing that the more telling coverage of that event was on the BBC where the whole of Scotland witnessed the Bawbag in the background taking his instructions from Jabba Traynor. The same happened after the Hibs v Sevco Cup final where these lickspittles gathered around the fat one - off camera, they thought - to be told what their story should be re Sevco players being assaulted by Hibs fans and Sevco fans only trying to protect their own players by kicking the shampoo out of teenage Hibs fans. So bad was the coverage that Scottish sports hacks had to be corrected by Kenny Miller's wife!

But it's the wally dug nodding that is the problem. Aye right.
Oh I thought this was a serious attempt at journalism but it's just that fkin Loki idiot.
It is indeed an idiotic argument he puts forward.

A similar outstanding opinion was sought by The Sun to give a counter balance to Lord Hodge's recent explanation of the Supreme Court ruling in favour of HMRC. Non other than James Price of The Taxpayers Alliance was chosen.

I've followed that website on and off for a few years now. They predicted all along that Rangers would win the tax case. They really don't like HMRC. Haters 😤

(I came to the conclusion that many people on that site find their way there because they googled 'JUST GOT A HUGE EFFIN TAX DEMAND IN FROM THEY COMPLETE WINKERS AND I'M EFFIN RAGIN...'

Mr Price had a dig at HMRC for getting it wrong in lots of other cases. Lol.

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It's OK, usual unqualified shallow understanding of an issue from Darren. Once again his minimal experience with the matter he's writing about somehow gives him startling insights. Usually there's a few 'Now you probably won't want to hear truth like this' type statements in there.
McGarvey's a terrific writer and, for me, is always worth engaging with. Poverty Safari was the best non fiction book of 2017 (this year, it's going to be Amos Oz, just so's you know).
Best non-fiction of 2017, pmsl
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It's OK, usual unqualified shallow understanding of an issue from Darren. Once again his minimal experience with the matter he's writing about somehow gives him startling insights. Usually there's a few 'Now you probably won't want to hear truth like this' type statements in there.
McGarvey's a terrific writer and, for me, is always worth engaging with. Poverty Safari was the best non fiction book of 2017 (this year, it's going to be Amos Oz, just so's you know).
It's well written pish then.
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McGarvey's a terrific writer and, for me, is always worth engaging with. Poverty Safari was the best non fiction book of 2017 (this year, it's going to be Amos Oz, just so's you know).
It's well written pish then.
It's neither well written or insightful. Aside from the odd decent turn of phrase his mangled sentences struggle under the weight of incessant repetition. Not a lot of people know this but he alone is capable of insight which is invariably correct until he gets a bit more experience then he rolls back what he said but those people criticising him are still just stuck in their ivory towers. You'd think Scotland contained one deprived household. For someone who drones on and on and on about how he doesn't have a voice I'm fair sick to the back teeth of his useful idiot layman opinions being given a biweekly airing.

He wrote something on mental health last year which was staggering in its ignorance. If only people just eschewed drugs and did some real talk with themselves like he did. Fkin buffoon.
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Gary Ralston has morphed into Dave King
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Gary Ralston has morphed into Dave King
Having read that piece, I thought he had just joined level5
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Gary Ralston has morphed into Dave King
Having read that piece, I thought he had just joined level5
Embarrassing stuff :lol:
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Seriously, the coverage of sevco over there looks like one of Tinsoldier's piss takes. :lol:
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Ever since Gordon Strachan got the boot form the Scotland job the media have been lauding Michael O'Neil for the job. Telling them to get a move on and sign him up before he negotiate as new job with Norn Ireland and then complaining the SFA are taking to long.
Now Keith Jackson is telling us that the SFA have concentrated on only O'Neil and should have looked elsewhere as well and that his International managerial record is not as good as Strachan's.
Maybe he was hoping that eh would have rocked up at Ibrox in the summer?

Stewart Regan has cornered himself with Michael O'Neill chase and better hope he doesn't get it wrong - Keith Jackson
Keith believes the chase for O'Neill has shown Regan up and says it looks like he's been chasing Pep Guardiola with his approach.
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Ever since Gordon Strachan got the boot form the Scotland job the media have been lauding Michael O'Neil for the job. Telling them to get a move on and sign him up before he negotiate as new job with Norn Ireland and then complaining the SFA are taking to long.
Now Keith Jackson is telling us that the SFA have concentrated on only O'Neil and should have looked elsewhere as well and that his International managerial record is not as good as Strachan's.
Maybe he was hoping that eh would have rocked up at Ibrox in the summer?

Stewart Regan has cornered himself with Michael O'Neill chase and better hope he doesn't get it wrong - Keith Jackson
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Oh no, they've just found out what school Michael went to ;)
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Chick Young is making an absolute tit of himself on Sportsound tonight regarding Michael O’Neill and the Scotland job. Saying it’s a job for a McLeish or Souness.

No wonder we plumb the depths on the international stage when some in our media are consistently peddling this pish. Jobs for the boys.
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Chick Young is making an absolute tit of himself on Sportsound tonight regarding Michael O’Neill and the Scotland job. Saying it’s a job for a McLeish or Souness.

No wonder we plumb the depths on the international stage when some in our media are consistently peddling this pish. Jobs for the boys.
I'm not one hundred percent convinced about Michael O'Neil, but I am one hundred percent convinced on souey and pumpkin heid McLeish.
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Chick Young is making an absolute tit of himself on Sportsound tonight regarding Michael O’Neill and the Scotland job. Saying it’s a job for a McLeish or Souness.

No wonder we plumb the depths on the international stage when some in our media are consistently peddling this pish. Jobs for the boys.
Souness hasn't managed in 12 years ffs :lol:

Along with Jackson's article this morning it definitely seems like the hacks are against O'Neill.
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I'm detecting a coordinated campaign in the media to try and downplay the potential selling price of of our players (witness the recent comments by Dodds on Moussa) coupled with a downplaying of the transfer fee for players Sevco are trying to sign - there is a piece on the BBC website where Ayr Manager Ian McCall is stating that Jordan Jones is only worth half what Sevco have offered.


What the eff has the transfer fee of a Killie player wanted by Sevco got to do with the Ayr United manager? Why hasn't he commented on the potential signings of other clubs? The one thing there arseholes have in common is the club they used to play for and support. There is a clear agenda here. And it stinks. :nono:
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