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20 Nov 2017, 06:44 PM
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Spot the plod  Been a while since I posted mind you, but definitely no a Polis. Just a carrot then?
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20 Nov 2017, 06:50 PM
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Another sob story from a person who is only sorry they get caught out. Absolutely no sympathy for her. A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief InspectorSpoiler: click to toggle A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015. But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty. Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling. At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000. And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires. The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake. Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake. Top police officer charged with bigot slur crime after an argument with a colleague But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools. She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month. Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it. “She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic. “She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation. “Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular. “The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the punishment was excessive. “There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.” Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court. It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer. The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her. The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated. The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers. Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close. “The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms. “It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better. “Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this. “Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry. “She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries. “This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job. “She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.” Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers. While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups. She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested. She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock. Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective. “She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.” Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and offensive behaviour. A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015. “After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.” It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action. David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.” It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days. If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal. Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff. The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established. Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit. They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime. After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665- Quote:
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It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer.
And she was found guilty, aye? So why is she still a police officer? It's okay for constables to make anti-Catholic jibes about paedophilia and collect 38K a year? Not only should she be drummed out of the force completely but every one of her colleagues who has complained that her demotion is an excessive punishment should also face an assessment of their suitability for the job. It's pretty clear that she's far from being the only one whose conduct is unbecoming of a police officer. The joys of living in Scotland.
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20 Nov 2017, 07:01 PM
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- 20 Nov 2017, 06:39 PM
Anyone in the police force displaying such clear anti-Catholic bigotry should have been sacked immediately. Anyone displaying such clear bigotry should have been sacked immediately.
Fixed for you.
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20 Nov 2017, 07:01 PM
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In two minds about this - she should absolutely have the book thrown at her but human trafficking is a real problem and if she's as good/innovative as they suggest then it's a shame that her hate fuelled stupidity impacts on that.
It's also an outrage that the officer who complained should suffer in any way.
Human trafficking has at it’s heart the exploitation of the most vulnerable in society. She is a supposed expert in the misery and criminality of that exploitation. She, of all people, should realise and be nowhere near the abhorrent perpetrators of the paedo narrative. In 2 minds? Appears pretty unequivocal to me.
This. Cannot understand why anyone would think any differently. The paedo patter from Huns is the absolute lowest This, anybody high up in a human trafficking unit finding child abuse funny/ worthy of banter etc beggars belief
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20 Nov 2017, 07:06 PM
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- Wailer
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I got lifted along with about ten others when I was sixteen. Age ranging from 13 - mid 20's - there were a couple of older lads with us. Our crime - meeting up to go for a game of football. We were gathering to meet, near Partick Train Station. Spotted a meatwagon at Morrisons. They were obviously in for their dinner. After they had finished at Morrisons, they spotted us and drove over. We didn't move as that would suggest we had something to hide and would have drawn attention. Sure enough, they pull over. Ask us why we didn't move when we saw the polis? Stated the obvious. That's fine - would you all step into the van and we'll do a warrant check. There was 3 of them - we all easily could have refused or ran away. We didn't, we got in and subsequently they drove the police station and charged us all with BOTP. Kept us in for a few hours and phoned all our parents - even the boys in their 20's  despite us telling them not to bother. 5 of us who were sixteen or voer ended up having to go to court and the bastards statements were full of lies - saying we were terrorising the public and running in and out of shops. they stood under oath, in court, and repeated the same. Ended up Not Proven, thankfully, but they didn't give a eff. Oh and when I was released from the cell the arsehole at the desk commented when he was returning my property. There's your belt, shoes and an acrobat, which was reference to my crucifix - carrot. no doubt there are good eggs in the Polis, but most I've come across are total carrots.
Once spotted two cops go into the local chippie via the back door - dinner time . Gave them 10 mins to get settled and then called their cop shop reporting a huge fight around the corner from said chippie. Pulled up a chair and laughed as the 2 dicks ran like feck out the door putting their jackets on as they ran. Winks. Crime won’t crack itself.
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20 Nov 2017, 07:09 PM
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brought up in the Drum, first run in with the police was when I was about 7 and got charged with playing football in the street (obviously a quiet night in the Drum) - they even sent someone up to my door to speak to my parents about it and when my dad wasn't interested, it went to court - he got fined. Had a few other encounters with them over the years and on each occasion they have made up stuff / lied under oath in order to get a conviction . I've never understood why anyone would do such a thing. I worked in debt recovery, it would be like me adding on £1000 to someone's debt, just because I wanted to / didn't like them and this would really screw them up. My wife is a committed, church going Protestant - she never understood my dislike of police as, coming from Giffnock, only had good things to say about them. However, she is on several committees in the church and had to work closely with the new bookkeeper for a while and as he was in his late 30's and new to the parish / church, she asked him about his background - he told her that he had been in the police for a good while, but had resigned and trained as an accountant as he could no longer lie under oath in the witness box and to not do so would have meant he was ostracised by his colleagues. They stick together, which would account for the victim being ostracised.
I would add, my brother, a church going catholic and ST holder at CP, was a police inspector until he retired and he assures me that he was always above board!!
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20 Nov 2017, 07:16 PM
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Spot the plod  Been a while since I posted mind you, but definitely no a Polis. Used to live in Patrick. An orange march went down Dunbarton Rd (circa 1995 or 1996) with UVF insignia on every uniform. I phoned Patrick police station to complain and was told to get lost - literally.
My other experiences of that Police station involving different types of crime mean I wouldn’t trust it as far as I could throw it.
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20 Nov 2017, 07:23 PM
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Been a while since I posted mind you, but definitely no a Polis.
Used to live in Patrick. An orange march went down Dunbarton Rd (circa 1995 or 1996) with UVF insignia on every uniform. I phoned Patrick police station to complain and was told to get lost - literally. My other experiences of that Police station involving different types of crime mean I wouldn’t trust it as far as I could throw it. Aye, they used to go along Dumbarton Rd, all the time. Stopping outside the two known Celtic boozers, who needed Polis on the door. Windaes regularly went in too.
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20 Nov 2017, 07:44 PM
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Used to live in Patrick. An orange march went down Dunbarton Rd (circa 1995 or 1996) with UVF insignia on every uniform. I phoned Patrick police station to complain and was told to get lost - literally. My other experiences of that Police station involving different types of crime mean I wouldn’t trust it as far as I could throw it.
Aye, they used to go along Dumbarton Rd, all the time. Stopping outside the two known Celtic boozers, who needed Polis on the door. Windaes regularly went in too. My mate had a job in a textile factory and ran up a 30' Tri colour for us to take to the game, this was over 30 years ago so would have been a great sight but on the day we were taking it for the 1st time we heard a band coming up the High St, we were at the junction at Duke St when we saw the coming up the High st so unfurled the flag. As they got closer we decanted up onto the Uni grounds and at that time there were no stairs so if you dint know how to get up there you were fecked, got the flag out and taunted them as they passed, the cops seemed to be more annoyed than the mouth breathers.
Once they passed we walked towards Townhead over the wee stream at the Uni before a van full of cops came screaming past the rotten row, you'd think we'd robbed a bank.
Anyway we got a chasing and I've got to the lane at the Allan Glen and turned round and there's 6 cops or so on my mate, he had the flag so was weighed down and I notice the cop that's left chasing me is rather fat so I wait for him to give him a chance. He gets within 10 yards and I can see his eyes are bulging so I run backwards a bit mocking the tool then escape over the wall of the Allan Glen playground into St David's primary (prod school BTW only one I knew that had a Saints name ) gave the fatso a wee wave as he peered over the fence.
My mate was done for Botp and had his flag confiscated.
Still always good to get away from them, enjoyed a wee victory every now and then.
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20 Nov 2017, 07:54 PM
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I find the fact this stuff is so common Scotland fascinating. In the north of Ireland it's taboo to even bring up the subject of religion in a professional environment. Scotland seems to have attitudes that wouldn't look out of place in 1980's Belfast. To this day it's the only country on earth I have been asked outright if I am a Catholic.
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20 Nov 2017, 07:55 PM
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Aye, they used to go along Dumbarton Rd, all the time. Stopping outside the two known Celtic boozers, who needed Polis on the door. Windaes regularly went in too.
My mate had a job in a textile factory and ran up a 30' Tri colour for us to take to the game, this was over 30 years ago so would have been a great sight but on the day we were taking it for the 1st time we heard a band coming up the High St, we were at the junction at Duke St when we saw the coming up the High st so unfurled the flag. As they got closer we decanted up onto the Uni grounds and at that time there were no stairs so if you dint know how to get up there you were fecked, got the flag out and taunted them as they passed, the cops seemed to be more annoyed than the mouth breathers. Once they passed we walked towards Townhead over the wee stream at the Uni before a van full of cops came screaming past the rotten row, you'd think we'd robbed a bank. Anyway we got a chasing and I've got to the lane at the Allan Glen and turned round and there's 6 cops or so on my mate, he had the flag so was weighed down and I notice the cop that's left chasing me is rather fat so I wait for him to give him a chance. He gets within 10 yards and I can see his eyes are bulging so I run backwards a bit mocking the tool then escape over the wall of the Allan Glen playground into St David's primary (prod school BTW only one I knew that had a Saints name ) gave the fatso a wee wave as he peered over the fence. My mate was done for Botp and had his flag confiscated. Still always good to get away from them, enjoyed a wee victory every now and then.
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20 Nov 2017, 08:05 PM
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Alex Rae on Sportsound, really struggling talking about Sevco. He can't finish a sentence.
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20 Nov 2017, 08:09 PM
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Alex Rae on Sportsound, really struggling talking about Sevco. He can't finish a sentence. They might be able to pay up any compensation. 
Big Alec would be the best fit. 
Did well in difficult, downsizing times with the deid club, so knows what’s required. 
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20 Nov 2017, 08:12 PM
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I find the fact this stuff is so common Scotland fascinating. In the north of Ireland it's taboo to even bring up the subject of religion in a professional environment. Scotland seems to have attitudes that wouldn't look out of place in 1980's Belfast. To this day it's the only country on earth I have been asked outright if I am a Catholic. It still goes on in many workplaces in the North of Ireland and is more discreet and indirect BUT believe me it's still there. I have had a few interesting encounters with the 'Scottish authorities' over the years. When we got the boat over in the 80's many of the ferry workers were out and out Scottish Zombies and you could feel the hatred the way they looked at us. Then you had to have all your luggage and baggage searched. The 'security'checkers on the Scottish side used to pull all our gear out and throw it everywhere messing the lot up while making remarks about 'the Gers' and 'Super Ally'. We also had to fill out pink PTA (Prevention of Terrorism) cards and that was always eventful. A few boys were well gassed and would write all sorts of stuff on them and consequently a big Polis Inspector would always walk on to the bus and ask for "Mr Michael Mouse and Mr Donald Duck" to stand up. The cops always also took great delight stopping us walking through the ports and provoking some sort of reaction. A few of our lads got ambushed one year in Girvan by a van load of Huns who hadn't seen the two coach loads of our boys parked down at the harbour. The sight of dozens of green and white hoops piling around the corner at them will live with me forever. The hilarious thing was that when the cops came on the scene they were going to lift US but luckily a couple of the girls working in the bar had seen US getting attacked and told the cops. Reluctantly they let us go.
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20 Nov 2017, 08:59 PM
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What a miserable article by Matthew Lindsay in the Herald with the headline proclaiming that Celtic are in for a taste of their own medicine in Paris. The Hun posts following the article falling over themselves to say that Lindsay is not biased, that it's a fair viewpoint etc..
Unbiased indeed. Lets just change the names in the article to Sevco and the Petrofac Cup and see his unbiased viewpoint - "The appointment of Mark Warburton now looks like a master stroke."
Sour grapes, Lindsay.
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20 Nov 2017, 09:01 PM
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Used to live in Patrick. An orange march went down Dunbarton Rd (circa 1995 or 1996) with UVF insignia on every uniform. I phoned Patrick police station to complain and was told to get lost - literally. My other experiences of that Police station involving different types of crime mean I wouldn’t trust it as far as I could throw it.
Aye, they used to go along Dumbarton Rd, all the time. Stopping outside the two known Celtic boozers, who needed Polis on the door. Windaes regularly went in too. About 2 years ago I had a hire from Queen Margaret Drive to Partick Orange Hall on Beith St. 4 auld bigots from Belfast . The fare was £3:90 and I made a joke about if it was a Hackney it would have been £16:90. The bigot paying the fare gave me a tenner and was told to keep the change . As I was waiting to drive away I was stuck behind the “ band” warming up . A copper cane over and motioned for me to stop . I had my arm partially out the window and my Celtic tattoo was showing to which the Copper said “ you better hide that mate , that lot don’t like our kind down here “ . So there are some good uns
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20 Nov 2017, 09:03 PM
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Sour grapes, Lindsay.
I'm surprised that you're surprised.
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20 Nov 2017, 10:15 PM
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From the online Scottish sun: THE Scottish Cup has thrown up some David vs Goliath esk games....
That is brilliant.
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20 Nov 2017, 10:37 PM
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Once spotted two cops go into the local chippie via the back door - dinner time . Gave them 10 mins to get settled and then called their cop shop reporting a huge fight around the corner from said chippie. Pulled up a chair and laughed as the 2 dicks ran like feck out the door putting their jackets on as they ran. Winks.  Crime won’t crack itself. " was there much taken lads ? "
" not til we got there Ken !"
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20 Nov 2017, 11:19 PM
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Sour grapes, Lindsay.
I'm surprised that you're surprised. Not surprised at all. The Herald, Evening Times, Scotsman, Record, Clyde, Radio Scotland, BBC Scotland, STV are all the same.
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