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19 Nov 2017, 10:59 AM
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Another sob story from a person who is only sorry they get caught out. Absolutely no sympathy for her. A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief InspectorSpoiler: click to toggle A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015. But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty. Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling. At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000. And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires. The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake. Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake. Top police officer charged with bigot slur crime after an argument with a colleague But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools. She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month. Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it. “She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic. “She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation. “Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular. “The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the punishment was excessive. “There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.” Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court. It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer. The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her. The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated. The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers. Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close. “The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms. “It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better. “Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this. “Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry. “She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries. “This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job. “She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.” Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers. While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups. She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested. She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock. Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective. “She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.” Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and offensive behaviour. A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015. “After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.” It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action. David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.” It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days. If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal. Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff. The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established. Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit. They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime. After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665- Quote:
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The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000.
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“The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms.
When you think on some of the cases of hunnery involving serving Scottish police officers over the last few years, that doesn't surprise me. There should be an investigation by an external force into this hun-ridden institution and clear out anyone that can't do their job impartially.
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19 Nov 2017, 11:15 AM
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Another sob story from a person who is only sorry they get caught out. Absolutely no sympathy for her. A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief InspectorSpoiler: click to toggle A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015. But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty. Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling. At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000. And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires. The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake. Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake. Top police officer charged with bigot slur crime after an argument with a colleague But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools. She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month. Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it. “She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic. “She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation. “Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular. “The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the punishment was excessive. “There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.” Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court. It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer. The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her. The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated. The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers. Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close. “The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms. “It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better. “Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this. “Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry. “She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries. “This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job. “She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.” Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers. While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups. She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested. She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock. Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective. “She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.” Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and offensive behaviour. A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015. “After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.” It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action. David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.” It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days. If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal. Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff. The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established. Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit. They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime. After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665- Quote:
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The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000.
My heart bleeds Shame. Poor wee Hun.
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Another sob story from a person who is only sorry they get caught out. Absolutely no sympathy for her. A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief InspectorSpoiler: click to toggle A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015. But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty. Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling. At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000. And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires. The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake. Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake. Top police officer charged with bigot slur crime after an argument with a colleague But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools. She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month. Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it. “She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic. “She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation. “Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular. “The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the punishment was excessive. “There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.” Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court. It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer. The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her. The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated. The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers. Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close. “The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms. “It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better. “Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this. “Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry. “She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries. “This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job. “She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.” Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers. While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups. She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested. She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock. Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective. “She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.” Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and offensive behaviour. A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015. “After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.” It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action. David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.” It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days. If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal. Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff. The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established. Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit. They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime. After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665- Quote:
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The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000.
My heart bleeds Didn't know the Record did hagiographies. One of many rotten apples in the barrel, but I'd bet the appeal is upheld with the minimum of fuss.
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19 Nov 2017, 11:20 AM
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Another sob story from a person who is only sorry they get caught out. Absolutely no sympathy for her. A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief InspectorSpoiler: click to toggle A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015. But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty. Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling. At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000. And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires. The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake. Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake. Top police officer charged with bigot slur crime after an argument with a colleague But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools. She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month. Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it. “She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic. “She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation. “Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular. “The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the punishment was excessive. “There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.” Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court. It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer. The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her. The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated. The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers. Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close. “The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms. “It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better. “Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this. “Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry. “She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries. “This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job. “She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.” Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers. While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups. She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested. She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock. Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective. “She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.” Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and offensive behaviour. A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015. “After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.” It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action. David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.” It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days. If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal. Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff. The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established. Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit. They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime. After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665- Quote:
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The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000.
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“The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms.
When you think on some of the cases of hunnery involving serving Scottish police officers over the last few years, that doesn't surprise me. There should be an investigation by an external force into this hun-ridden institution and clear out anyone that can't do their job impartially. Out of interest, does anyone know what is the punishment for those who are found guilty of a breach of the OBFA? Or racially/sectarian aggravated/motivated hate crime (not sure of terminology)?
I'm wondering because of the way this seems to be spun. It appears she has admitted guilt but feels the punishment is too severe so I am just wondering what she and the Police Federation feel is an appropriate punishment particularly as it seems the victim has actually been punished too?
Doesn't sound as if plod up north have changed one iota since a friend of mine was told in the 70s he wouldn't proceed beyond whatever grade he was on because of his religion and who, when he complained about this, was transferred to transport duties where it was impossible to get promotion.
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19 Nov 2017, 11:23 AM
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Get it right up the hatchet-faced creep of a woman
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19 Nov 2017, 11:33 AM
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Another sob story from a person who is only sorry they get caught out. Absolutely no sympathy for her. A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief InspectorSpoiler: click to toggle A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015. But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty. Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling. At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000. And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires. The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake. Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake. Top police officer charged with bigot slur crime after an argument with a colleague But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools. She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month. Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it. “She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic. “She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation. “Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular. “The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the punishment was excessive. “There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.” Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court. It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer. The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her. The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated. The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers. Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close. “The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms. “It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better. “Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this. “Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry. “She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries. “This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job. “She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.” Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers. While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups. She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested. She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock. Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective. “She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.” Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and offensive behaviour. A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015. “After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.” It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action. David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.” It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days. If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal. Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff. The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established. Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit. They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime. After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665- Quote:
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The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000.
My heart bleeds I don't think her salary will 'plummet' though: its likely she'll be on 'mark time' pay meaning her salary won't decrease until her demoted ranks' salary catches up with with her current income (in about 15 years time by which time the bigot will be long retired and on an incredibly generous pension. Probably be Sevco's security chief before then anyway as all staunch boxes ticked.)
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19 Nov 2017, 11:39 AM
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Another sob story from a person who is only sorry they get caught out. Absolutely no sympathy for her. A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief InspectorSpoiler: click to toggle A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015. But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty. Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling. At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000. And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires. The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake. Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake. Top police officer charged with bigot slur crime after an argument with a colleague But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools. She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month. Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it. “She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic. “She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation. “Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular. “The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the punishment was excessive. “There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.” Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court. It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer. The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her. The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated. The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers. Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close. “The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms. “It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better. “Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this. “Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry. “She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries. “This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job. “She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.” Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers. While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups. She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested. She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock. Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective. “She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.” Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and offensive behaviour. A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015. “After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.” It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action. David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.” It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days. If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal. Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff. The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established. Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit. They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime. After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
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“The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms.
When you think on some of the cases of hunnery involving serving Scottish police officers over the last few years, that doesn't surprise me. There should be an investigation by an external force into this hun-ridden institution and clear out anyone that can't do their job impartially.
Out of interest, does anyone know what is the punishment for those who are found guilty of a breach of the OBFA? Or racially/sectarian aggravated/motivated hate crime (not sure of terminology)? I'm wondering because of the way this seems to be spun. It appears she has admitted guilt but feels the punishment is too severe so I am just wondering what she and the Police Federation feel is an appropriate punishment particularly as it seems the victim has actually been punished too? Doesn't sound as if plod up north have changed one iota since a friend of mine was told in the 70s he wouldn't proceed beyond whatever grade he was on because of his religion and who, when he complained about this, was transferred to transport duties where it was impossible to get promotion. Interesting point, they’ll quite happily knock on people’s doors in the early hours of the morning for singing a song at a game but think the punishment of a senior professional who really should know better is too severe. Hell mend her
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19 Nov 2017, 11:45 AM
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- san meegs
- 19 Nov 2017, 10:47 AM
Another sob story from a person who is only sorry they get caught out. Absolutely no sympathy for her. A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief InspectorSpoiler: click to toggle A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015. But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty. Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling. At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000. And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires. The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake. Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake. Top police officer charged with bigot slur crime after an argument with a colleague But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools. She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month. Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it. “She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic. “She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation. “Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular. “The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the punishment was excessive. “There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.” Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court. It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer. The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her. The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated. The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers. Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close. “The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms. “It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better. “Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this. “Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry. “She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries. “This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job. “She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.” Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers. While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups. She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested. She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock. Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective. “She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.” Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and offensive behaviour. A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015. “After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.” It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action. David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.” It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days. If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal. Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff. The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established. Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit. They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime. After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665- Quote:
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My heart bleeds Well she’s certainly got Murray Foote onside, doing her bargaining for her ahead of any appeal. It reads like a not very subtle attempt to influence an internal appeal process.
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19 Nov 2017, 12:07 PM
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She should be effing fired. I would have zero faith in her future judgements on anything and would seriously question her prejudices in past and future matters. Ironically if she worked currently for the PSNI her arse would not be hitting the door on her way out. So why just a demotion in Scotland? Sack the bigot.
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19 Nov 2017, 12:20 PM
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Should be bagged but sadly she'll have her rank reinstated. That's what happens when you have cops investigating fellow officers which is evident from that shameful piece in the Rectum. Zero tolerance.
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19 Nov 2017, 12:35 PM
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Banter Declan, banter
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Should be bagged but sadly she'll have her rank reinstated. That's what happens when you have cops investigating fellow officers which is evident from that shameful piece in the Rectum. Zero tolerance. Get Steve arnott and he will sort it out. In saying that, his Masonic Dubliner of a boss will probably sweep it under the carpet
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19 Nov 2017, 12:47 PM
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So, has she not effectively committed a crime?
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In two minds about this - she should absolutely have the book thrown at her but human trafficking is a real problem and if she's as good/innovative as they suggest then it's a shame that her hate fuelled stupidity impacts on that.
It's also an outrage that the officer who complained should suffer in any way.
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19 Nov 2017, 12:57 PM
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It’s just not banter to joke about catholic schools and abuse - it’s the rhetoric of the bigot orc
It betrays a level of bigotry and prejudice that’s kept just below the surface most of the time probably - it’s possible to be a ‘massive rangurz fan’ without buying into the bullshampoo abuse language - that makes this different - it’s not about a football team then
Doesn’t matter if she’s god at her job or not! Plenty of arseholes can put up a decent shelf or even play football - difference is they rarely get a supportive puff piece in a national rag
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19 Nov 2017, 01:09 PM
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"The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers"
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19 Nov 2017, 01:22 PM
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It's so sad to see the Herald turned into a hun rag.
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19 Nov 2017, 01:26 PM
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- 19 Nov 2017, 01:22 PM
It's so sad to see the Herald turned into a hun rag. Where have you been for the last ten years?
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19 Nov 2017, 01:27 PM
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Reads like a radical right wing newspaper of Weimar bemoaning the fact poor Jinny Gloeckner has been forced to leave the Polizei due to her SA membership.
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19 Nov 2017, 01:50 PM
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"The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers"
Says it all
I think that's always been a thing in the police and has historically made it difficult to tackle corruption etc so I'd say that might be more to do with that kind of culture.
That said I'm amazed that people working for an organisation that will bust folk in a dawn raid, or pounce on them as they return from holiday at an airport for the heinous crimes of singing songs or holding satirical banners, should feel hard put upon in these situations.
They have zero tolerance for people breaking laws that they often cannot been explain how they're being broken.
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