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The Media
Topic Started: 1 Nov 2017, 11:12 PM (581,193 Views)
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Bit of positivity, for a change, from the media down sarf (from KT thread):


Danny Kelly hosting Talksport Drive this evening:

"Kieran Tierney is set to become the next great British footballer. He captained Scotland last night, aged 20, at centre half but he is a fullback who combines the attacking flair of Gareth Bale with the defensive chutzpah of Stuart Pearce"
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BBC's top Sports News about.... Nothing , but McInnes gets a mention ! :lol:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41949360

"DEREK! You haven't applied yet !" :angry:
Edited by tenerifetim, 10 Nov 2017, 07:27 PM.
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10 Nov 2017, 03:13 PM
This is now getting silly. So (in my best Allo, Allo voice) I shall say zis only once: Mark Daly was not the person who informed me the piece was dead because of pressure from above.

I still think he has skated on the coat-tails of others and is not the Pulitzer-prize winner that some believe.

Scottish "journalists" are a joke and a waste of time and effort, and I don't think there is a single one who can look at the past 6 years and think themselves satisfied that they have done their job.

That is my final word on it (and for the avoidance of doubt - no pressure has been brought to bear on me to clear this up).
Begs the question....
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10 Nov 2017, 11:57 AM
Here's the question I'd like answered...

I'm a firm believer in the following, basic way of thinking.
For the most part most mass media is produced for a reason - not solely as a public service for the good of the population.
I'm not talking about freelance journalism, blogging or that kind of thing - but the sort of media that gets published on a large scale by large global media firms.

There is generally a specific motive or series of motives.
For the most part, the main motive is to get viewers, because eyes on the publication, or TV show means potential eyes watching adverts that break up the content.
Adverts = revenue for the TV station/newspaper/website etc etc.
Someone somewhere pays the wages, and as a result, in the main, the guys that pay the bills make the decisions as to what is published or broadcast, and what isn't, or at least has a huge say in what gets aired and the direction the broadcaster/media company goes.
This is why, and it's been shown time and again, that some actors, presenters, etc will be fired if a key advertiser thinks they've overstepped the mark.
It happens all the time.

So - the BBC.
The BBC supposedly is run off the back of licence fees. There is no advertising revenue, supposedly.
So there has to be some other main reason for the BBC existing.
My view on this is that the BBC is basically a propaganda machine.
The whole point of it is to steer opinion and the behaviour of the viewers.
It is supposed to be impartial, but it clearly isn't.
Whether it's the biased nature of the Scottish referendum news reporting, the almost non-existent negative reporting of the monarchy, or the fact that every man and their dog in the run up to remembrance day is seen wearing a poppy (if that's not mind control, what is???) - the BBC clearly has an agenda - and will have an agenda for pretty much all the key stories it reports on.

I mean, if Corsica's story mentioned above gets spiked, when it seems like it's a slam dunk as Corsica has already done the donkey work, a half a million quid charity theft, and yet the "Paradise Papers" story gets spun to highlight Dermot Desmond (who isn't even a UK citizen) - someone somewhere has an agenda as to why one story is published and the other isn't. "No appetite" doesn't cut it for me.

Re: DD, could it be a misdirection? I mean, the biggest story, REALLY re: the Paradise Papers is the fact that the Queen isn't paying her due taxes and yet a lot of people have been expending their energy on DD and others - I mean Mrs Brown's Boys - FFS!?
As some have observed, the Queen was the big story when the Paradise Papers story broke, but quite rapidly her part in the story was taken over by many many other protagonists, including DD.

But, back in 2011/12 - what was the point of the Mark Daley "The men who sole the jerseys" documentary?
How come it made it to our screens in the first place?
Most people had no idea about the EBT thing (apart from bampot paranoid Tims and so on), - it seems strange to me given their generally softly softly approach to anything RFC, why would BBC Scotland decide to broadcast the story?
What was the real fundamental point of it?
I'm not buying that it was just a huge public interest story.
In the same way as Harvey Weinstein is a massive story globally, there has to be an underlying reason for why his behaviour is being brought into sharp focus right now.
He's been known for a while as being a certain kind of person - he's supposedly been doing his thing for decades, and yet now it's a big deal.
Why now?

And the same goes for the RFC things.
The original Daley piece is broadcast back in the day, but as many have pointed out other key aspects of the story haven't been followed up to any real extent since.
The whole thing has been soft soaped.
Seems to me that in the main the EBT thing, RFC wrong doing, it's deliberate non-disclosure of documents and general obfuscation, the Resolution 12 thing - all of these things are interlinked, and yet don't seem to get the real forensic going over that you'd expect for such a far reaching story in this part of the world.
The present day - King and the supposedly very questionable sources of revenue which are keeping the Sevco ship afloat - again potentially a massive story - but not covered to any extent at all.

So, getting back to it, why did the Daley piece ever see the light of day?

Was it to stir up the hordes for the impending doom that RFC was approaching?
Kick in a siege mentality?
I'm really not sure, but it's certainly strange to me anyway - and as we know, the story could probably have been released well ahead of when it was broadcast, as most if not all of the content had been well known for quite a while beforehand - and even then the program wasn't quite as hard hitting as I expected it to be...






Re the Weinstein issue my recollection is that it came to the fore because Ashley Judd, who had alluded to a shady mogul in a previous interview,decided to name Weinstein in an interview with, I think, the New York Times. Forced the whole thing into the open and the walls came atumbling
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Darren Cooney(is he not the top man) in the record has made up a list of footballers that got booed playing for their countrys. You will be surprised to learn that he's came up with 4 rangers players, a rangers supporter, wayne rooney and Fred.

The list
Jack
Wallace
Black
Butcher
Gary Mc Alister
Rooney
Fred
Edited by john67, 11 Nov 2017, 10:34 AM.
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john67
11 Nov 2017, 10:32 AM
Darren Cooney(is he not the top man) in the record has made up a list of footballers that got booed playing for their countrys. You will be surprised to learn that he's came up with 4 rangers players, a rangers supporter, wayne rooney and Fred.

The list
Jack
Wallace
Black
Butcher
Gary Mc Alister
Rooney
Fred
No mention of Pique :lol:
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Or Dave the donkey McPherson

Mind you he was so bad he got laughed at rather than booed.
Edited by Ess, 11 Nov 2017, 01:28 PM.
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john67
11 Nov 2017, 10:32 AM
Darren Cooney(is he not the top man) in the record has made up a list of footballers that got booed playing for their countrys. You will be surprised to learn that he's came up with 4 rangers players, a rangers supporter, wayne rooney and Fred.

The list
Jack
Wallace
Black
Butcher
Gary Mc Alister
Rooney
Fred
He done well to miss out GSTQ
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Ess
11 Nov 2017, 01:28 PM
Or Dave the donkey McPherson

Mind you he was so bad he got laughed at rather than booed.
What was the line somone said about McPherson when we played Italy, maybe an italian journo?
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11 Nov 2017, 05:10 PM
Ess
11 Nov 2017, 01:28 PM
Or Dave the donkey McPherson

Mind you he was so bad he got laughed at rather than booed.
What was the line somone said about McPherson when we played Italy, maybe an italian journo?
Not sure, rings a bell though :ponder:

Remember him charging out of defence and falling over his own feet without anyone near him and an attempted 40 yard pass that went out for a throw 5 yards behind where he started in the same game.
The memorable thing was the crowd were laughing at him, he was so bad that no one could muster a "come on tae eff", everyone just burst out laughing.
Never seen it since.
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Mark Daly strikes me as a decent guy but not one journalist based in Scotland has covered themselves in glory when it comes to the happenings of the last 6 years. You only have to look at the literary gymnastics some do just to avoid saying “Rangers the club was liquidated”.

As for “The Men Who Sold The Jerseys” looking at the timing and that Whyte was the main focus (particularly his business history/disqualification) I think in hindsight it was more about warning the hordes about who had bought their club than it was about the truth of decades of shambolic financial management and EBTs.
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I doubt Daly's aim was to placate or warn the hordes: after the show was broadcast he received a wave of threats leading to at least one court case:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/police-probe-twitter-attack-on-bbc-1492199
and he was later reported as saying he couldn't face doing a follow up to the programme due to the hassle and intimidation after the first
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After the EBT stuff started to break - from barcabhoy and RTC - everyone complained that it was being ignored by the mainstream media. Daly then did a mainstream media programme on it, going into a lot of the RTC stuff in great detail.

Seems odd to have a go at him now over it, when he did exactly what a lot of people were calling for at the time. I'd also say that it's pretty conclusive evidence that he doesn't pander to huns.
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11 Nov 2017, 06:21 PM
After the EBT stuff started to break - from barcabhoy and RTC - everyone complained that it was being ignored by the mainstream media. Daly then did a mainstream media programme on it, going into a lot of the RTC stuff in great detail.

Seems odd to have a go at him now over it, when he did exactly what a lot of people were calling for at the time. I'd also say that it's pretty conclusive evidence that he doesn't pander to huns.

I get that but same question applies, why did he chase DD about tax issues using BBC funding considering DD isn't British and nor committed a crime while all around British subjects dodge tax legally or otherwise?


Quite simply the Celtic link. An effort to tar us into "tax" issues and leave us with a smear.

Only he can explain his motive or his bosses motive.
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11 Nov 2017, 06:52 PM
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11 Nov 2017, 06:21 PM
After the EBT stuff started to break - from barcabhoy and RTC - everyone complained that it was being ignored by the mainstream media. Daly then did a mainstream media programme on it, going into a lot of the RTC stuff in great detail.

Seems odd to have a go at him now over it, when he did exactly what a lot of people were calling for at the time. I'd also say that it's pretty conclusive evidence that he doesn't pander to huns.

I get that but same question applies, why did he chase DD about tax issues using BBC funding considering DD isn't British and nor committed a crime while all around British subjects dodge tax legally or otherwise?


Quite simply the Celtic link. An effort to tar us into "tax" issues and leave us with a smear.

Only he can explain his motive or his bosses motive.
Dunno, I was just talking about his reporting of the EBT stuff.

I guess it's subjective as to whether something like an individuals tax arrangements are newsworthy. I couldn't care less, but I suppose if you're picking out names from the leaked Papers that might be newsworthy to a Scottish audience, then DD could be one.

I don't believe that it's an effort to smear Celtic on tax issues though. The story is straightforward enough, and obviously not anything to do with Celtic.
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Michael Grant had quite a cute line in The Times this week on the respective responses from Celtic and Sevco fans to the Dermot Desmond tax story.

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It seems such schemes are suddenly far less newsworthy, and also far more scandalous, than the respective parties previously realised …


Kind of sums up my take on it. I don't care that Daly has questioned Desmond - it is a story of interest to a Scottish audience, after all - and I don't particularly care about his tax affairs either.
Edited by 33-rpm, 11 Nov 2017, 07:21 PM.
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11 Nov 2017, 07:10 PM
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11 Nov 2017, 06:52 PM
idyllwild
11 Nov 2017, 06:21 PM
After the EBT stuff started to break - from barcabhoy and RTC - everyone complained that it was being ignored by the mainstream media. Daly then did a mainstream media programme on it, going into a lot of the RTC stuff in great detail.

Seems odd to have a go at him now over it, when he did exactly what a lot of people were calling for at the time. I'd also say that it's pretty conclusive evidence that he doesn't pander to huns.

I get that but same question applies, why did he chase DD about tax issues using BBC funding considering DD isn't British and nor committed a crime while all around British subjects dodge tax legally or otherwise?


Quite simply the Celtic link. An effort to tar us into "tax" issues and leave us with a smear.

Only he can explain his motive or his bosses motive.
Dunno, I was just talking about his reporting of the EBT stuff.

I guess it's subjective as to whether something like an individuals tax arrangements are newsworthy. I couldn't care less, but I suppose if you're picking out names from the leaked Papers that might be newsworthy to a Scottish audience, then DD could be one.

I don't believe that it's an effort to smear Celtic on tax issues though. The story is straightforward enough, and obviously not anything to do with Celtic.
a poster earlier in the thread made a great point about a picture painting a thousand words.

please have a look at that and reconsider your view that it's not to smear celtic fc.


edit to say it might not be this thread but the board thread.
Edited by Fearghas, 11 Nov 2017, 07:23 PM.
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Dunno, I was just talking about his reporting of the EBT stuff.

I guess it's subjective as to whether something like an individuals tax arrangements are newsworthy. I couldn't care less, but I suppose if you're picking out names from the leaked Papers that might be newsworthy to a Scottish audience, then DD could be one.

I don't believe that it's an effort to smear Celtic on tax issues though. The story is straightforward enough, and obviously not anything to do with Celtic.
a poster earlier in the thread made a great point about a picture painting a thousand words.

please have a look at that and reconsider your view that it's not to smear celtic fc.


edit to say it might not be this thread but the board thread.
I've seen the picture. It's fairly easy to see that DD is deemed newsworthy in this country because of his link to Celtic. It's also fairly easy to see that the tax story itself has nothing to do with the finances of Celtic.

No big deal.
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11 Nov 2017, 10:41 AM
john67
11 Nov 2017, 10:32 AM
Darren Cooney(is he not the top man) in the record has made up a list of footballers that got booed playing for their countrys. You will be surprised to learn that he's came up with 4 rangers players, a rangers supporter, wayne rooney and Fred.

The list
Jack
Wallace
Black
Butcher
Gary Mc Alister
Rooney
Fred
No mention of Pique :lol:
Was he playing for his country though?

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11 Nov 2017, 07:10 PM

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a poster earlier in the thread made a great point about a picture painting a thousand words.

please have a look at that and reconsider your view that it's not to smear celtic fc.


edit to say it might not be this thread but the board thread.
I've seen the picture. It's fairly easy to see that DD is deemed newsworthy in this country because of his link to Celtic. It's also fairly easy to see that the tax story itself has nothing to do with the finances of Celtic.

No big deal.
if you saw the photo then why do you think the words "celtic football club" appear dead centre of the shot?

it's obviously not a coincidence so shirley that's a smear against celtic.

and why not shove a mic into his face when he's getting his golf clubs out his car before
a round of golf instead of when he's walking into celtic park for a cl match?

do you seriously think this wasn't a media led exercise in whatabouttery?
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