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Topic Started: 1 Nov 2017, 11:12 PM (581,044 Views)
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I wasn't born in 1978 but looking back at the footage last night the killer Dutch second goal seemed to arrive in a typically Scottish fashion. Three minutes after Gemmill's goal.

You can just imagine the elation and the possibilities racing through the mind when Gemmill scored. Only for them to be shattered within three minutes. Grim.

I think that is the first time I have seen footage from the game against Iran too, and the OG they scored. The footage from that game seems to show a squad in a bad way. Pretty tragic to look back at actually, because with the right preparation and frame of mind I've no doubt that squad could have gone a lot further.

In all seriousness though, it went a long way to showing the complete incompetence of the SFA in terms of planning and organisation. Nothing really appears to have changed in that regard. The sooner the SFA and the diddy clubs professionalise their preparations and planning for big trips, the better chance they have of competing.

There was a clip of Ernie Walker going through an itinerary meticulously marking off exact times when the squad would arrive on the pitch for that ridiculous send off then head to the airport. You can actually hear him mention what will happen at every five minute time window at one point.

Maybe sort out an actual hotel instead of a building site and a training base that has a football pitch instead ya pumpkin. Other highlights include the squad having to push a bus up a hill and being that bored they started chucking stuff at ants for entertainment.

By the way, Alan Rough is badly at fault for that Cubillas free kick. Amateur hour.

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I can't find the original thread so chucking this in here:

Paul Larkin has made his 3 documentaries available for free online - his most recent 'Anyone But Celtic'
http://thefrontofthebus.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-asterisk-years-abc-and-armageddon.html?m=1
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7 Jun 2018, 06:39 AM
Scottish Cup Final an evening kick off and promoted Livingston’s intention to lay a plastic pitch for next season means a quarter of the Premiership clubs will have artificial grass.
Well, one is a definite.

THE LATE SHOW SFA chief Ian Maxwell says next year’s Scottish Cup final could take place in the EVENING if there’s potential to cash-in
The former Partick Thistle supremo is hoping to announce a TV deal soon for the competition and admits it could be a later kick-off
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Oh I can just see the boys in blue agreeing to that in the event that we meet the great unwashed in the final!
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7 Jun 2018, 09:37 AM
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7 Jun 2018, 09:28 AM
Mackin
7 Jun 2018, 08:37 AM
Unless the Cup Final is going to be on a different day to the English one, then where's the commercial interest in having it in the evening? Unless its going to be 7.45, no broadcaster is going to put it up against the English Cup final especially when there's no other games that day. Its effing daft.
It usually coincides with the CL Final - so a 7.45 slot would pit the Scottish Cup Final against the biggest day of the biggest footballing even outside of the World Cup :lol:


Sounds like a classic SFA move
They are on different days now. UEFA insist that the CL final is the only game that day, its why the Scottish Cup final was a Sunday a few years back.
Is that definite?

I'm sure the English Championship play off was played a couple of hours prior to the Champions League Final kicking off.
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7 Jun 2018, 09:37 AM
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Mackin
7 Jun 2018, 08:37 AM
Unless the Cup Final is going to be on a different day to the English one, then where's the commercial interest in having it in the evening? Unless its going to be 7.45, no broadcaster is going to put it up against the English Cup final especially when there's no other games that day. Its effing daft.
It usually coincides with the CL Final - so a 7.45 slot would pit the Scottish Cup Final against the biggest day of the biggest footballing even outside of the World Cup :lol:


Sounds like a classic SFA move
They are on different days now. UEFA insist that the CL final is the only game that day, its why the Scottish Cup final was a Sunday a few years back.

When was the Scottish Cup Final on a Sunday ?




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7 Jun 2018, 10:32 AM
Gothamcelt
7 Jun 2018, 06:39 AM
Scottish Cup Final an evening kick off and promoted Livingston’s intention to lay a plastic pitch for next season means a quarter of the Premiership clubs will have artificial grass.
Well, one is a definite.

THE LATE SHOW SFA chief Ian Maxwell says next year’s Scottish Cup final could take place in the EVENING if there’s potential to cash-in
The former Partick Thistle supremo is hoping to announce a TV deal soon for the competition and admits it could be a later kick-off
Spoiler: click to toggle
Oh I can just see the boys in blue agreeing to that in the event that we meet the great unwashed in the final!

Hiya Gary !!!


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They are on different days now. UEFA insist that the CL final is the only game that day, its why the Scottish Cup final was a Sunday a few years back.

When was the Scottish Cup Final on a Sunday ?




The year we beat Hibs. Bank holiday weekend as well. :chuffed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Scottish_Cup
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Amazon buys one of the remaining English Premier League packages. No current details on value.

BT buys the other for $90m a season, £270m in total.
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Forza
7 Jun 2018, 11:44 AM
Amazon buys one of the remaining English Premier League packages. No current details on value.

BT buys the other for $90m a season, £270m in total.
The Amazon deal is two full cards, one in midweek and one on a bank holiday

Be interesting to see the viewing figures for some of the shampooter games going head to head with some big teams
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7 Jun 2018, 11:52 AM
Forza
7 Jun 2018, 11:44 AM
Amazon buys one of the remaining English Premier League packages. No current details on value.

BT buys the other for $90m a season, £270m in total.
The Amazon deal is two full cards, one in midweek and one on a bank holiday

Be interesting to see the viewing figures for some of the shampooter games going head to head with some big teams
Interesting. Certainly good news for the SPFL rights too. I heard that there was three interested parties, so I wonder if one of those parties is Amazon.
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7 Jun 2018, 11:52 AM
Forza
7 Jun 2018, 11:44 AM
Amazon buys one of the remaining English Premier League packages. No current details on value.

BT buys the other for $90m a season, £270m in total.
The Amazon deal is two full cards, one in midweek and one on a bank holiday

Be interesting to see the viewing figures for some of the shampooter games going head to head with some big teams
The idea will be to prevent as many clashes as possible to maximise value. The Premier League had already announced that the games in these fixtures rounds don't all have to start at the same time.

So the midweek fixtures will be split between Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, with something like 3 fixtures on each of the first two nights and then two on the Thursday.

Depending on what's been agreed, you could even see a 7pm and 9pm kick off time for games taking place on the same night, not unlike the Europa League, and Champions League from this season.

They'll put the Bank Holiday fixtures back to back to back like La Liga does on a Saturday and Sunday. They could end up with four games in different slots starting from 12 and then can schedule at least one game on the day either side of the Bank Holiday.
Edited by Forza, 7 Jun 2018, 01:02 PM.
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tonyjaa-csc
7 Jun 2018, 10:05 AM
I can't find the original thread so chucking this in here:

Paul Larkin has made his 3 documentaries available for free online - his most recent 'Anyone But Celtic'
http://thefrontofthebus.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-asterisk-years-abc-and-armageddon.html?m=1
I watched The Asterisk Years the other night - wasn't great to be fair.

I went to see ABC when it was premiered in Malone's

Haven't watched Armageddon yet
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7 Jun 2018, 09:00 AM
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Drawing with Iran was one of the worst results in Scotland's entire history. That show confirmed previous stories, they did zero research on their opponents, and scraped a point against utter dross, and got pumped by a Peru side that they should be beating with the squad that Scotland had there. Then in classic Scotland fashion, somehow pulled themselves into having a faint chance in the last match, but also effed that up as well. The phrase "glorious failure" seems like it was designed for Scotland.
Noticed we did not have 1 player in the squad...before my time but were we THAT bad we had 0 player(s) in the squad?

NB - Know the huns won the treble that year was it close or where they far and away better than us and a other teams?

:ponder:
we had just come out of one of our worst seasons ... 36 points from 36 games, finished 5th. Danny was injured or would have travelled. Nobody else was even close, we were woeful!
As mentioned the previous summer we'd went there on tour after beating England at Wembley and got good resukts. McGrain was injured as was Gordon McQueen, although he did travel. I was at Hampden for the England match... the writing was on the wall then
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7 Jun 2018, 09:30 AM
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7 Jun 2018, 09:00 AM
VBI
7 Jun 2018, 02:14 AM
Drawing with Iran was one of the worst results in Scotland's entire history. That show confirmed previous stories, they did zero research on their opponents, and scraped a point against utter dross, and got pumped by a Peru side that they should be beating with the squad that Scotland had there. Then in classic Scotland fashion, somehow pulled themselves into having a faint chance in the last match, but also effed that up as well. The phrase "glorious failure" seems like it was designed for Scotland.
Noticed we did not have 1 player in the squad...before my time but were we THAT bad we had 0 player(s) in the squad?

NB - Know the huns won the treble that year was it close or where they far and away better than us and a other teams?

:ponder:
Peter Latchford
Alan Sneddon
Andy Lynch
Johannes Edvaldsson
Roddy MacDonald
Mike Conroy
George McCluskey
Ronnie Glavin
Joe Craig
Tom McAdam
Johnny Doyle
Roy Aitken
John Dowie
Tommy Burns

A selection of players from our team that year. Very much transitional. Huns did little after til Sourness.
Aitken and Burns were probably too young. Also have to remember Scottish players were mainstays in league and European Cup winning English teams at that time.
:thumbsup:

Thought it very stange not one of our guys was there but understand Liverpool, Nottingham Forest, Ipswich all had top teams back them whilst we finished lower down in our own league.

Edited by littlegmbhoy, 7 Jun 2018, 01:56 PM.
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7 Jun 2018, 01:02 PM
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7 Jun 2018, 11:52 AM
Forza
7 Jun 2018, 11:44 AM
Amazon buys one of the remaining English Premier League packages. No current details on value.

BT buys the other for $90m a season, £270m in total.
The Amazon deal is two full cards, one in midweek and one on a bank holiday

Be interesting to see the viewing figures for some of the shampooter games going head to head with some big teams
The idea will be to prevent as many clashes as possible to maximise value. The Premier League had already announced that the games in these fixtures rounds don't all have to start at the same time.

So the midweek fixtures will be split between Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, with something like 3 fixtures on each of the first two nights and then two on the Thursday.

Depending on what's been agreed, you could even see a 7pm and 9pm kick off time for games taking place on the same night, not unlike the Europa League, and Champions League from this season.

They'll put the Bank Holiday fixtures back to back to back like La Liga does on a Saturday and Sunday. They could end up with four games in different slots starting from 12 and then can schedule at least one game on the day either side of the Bank Holiday.
What is interesting is that the Premier League won’t seem to divulge how much Amazon paid for the package. I wonder if Amazon got the package at a heavy discount.

I also think that this couldn’t have happened at a better time for the SPFL. It’s just if those in charge have the ability to use this as leverage.
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7 Jun 2018, 01:19 PM
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7 Jun 2018, 02:14 AM
Drawing with Iran was one of the worst results in Scotland's entire history. That show confirmed previous stories, they did zero research on their opponents, and scraped a point against utter dross, and got pumped by a Peru side that they should be beating with the squad that Scotland had there. Then in classic Scotland fashion, somehow pulled themselves into having a faint chance in the last match, but also effed that up as well. The phrase "glorious failure" seems like it was designed for Scotland.
Noticed we did not have 1 player in the squad...before my time but were we THAT bad we had 0 player(s) in the squad?

NB - Know the huns won the treble that year was it close or where they far and away better than us and a other teams?

:ponder:
we had just come out of one of our worst seasons ... 36 points from 36 games, finished 5th. Danny was injured or would have travelled. Nobody else was even close, we were woeful!
As mentioned the previous summer we'd went there on tour after beating England at Wembley and got good resukts. McGrain was injured as was Gordon McQueen, although he did travel. I was at Hampden for the England match... the writing was on the wall then
I too was at the England match at Hampden. I can remember the looks I got in assembly at school on the Friday morning when the form teacher asked if anyone is going to the match tomorrow. There were only the two of us in the class, the other lad got his through the school football team, and I got mine as a birthday present courtesy of my late uncle- face value £2. It was my first experience of a big match, our tickets were for the old Rangers end, I can remember the “river” that flowed down the dirt terracing, and Hampden really was a dump.

As for the 78 world cup campaign, it showed the SFA for the bunch of bungling blazer wearing amateurs that they were. Absolutely no preparation or scouting the opposition. I think the injury to Gordon McQueen in the home internationals really cost us, if I recall correctly clattered his knee off one of the square posts in the wales game?

The Peru and Iran games were an embarrassment, the Holland game was one of the finest performances I’ve seen from Scotland- pity it was all too late. Didn’t Scotland also get docked 2 points as a results of the positive drugs test or am I making that bit up?
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The programme last night didn't show, that when Scotland went 1-0 up against Peru, they then missed a penalty, Don Mason, which would have made it 2-0.
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7 Jun 2018, 11:52 AM

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The idea will be to prevent as many clashes as possible to maximise value. The Premier League had already announced that the games in these fixtures rounds don't all have to start at the same time.

So the midweek fixtures will be split between Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, with something like 3 fixtures on each of the first two nights and then two on the Thursday.

Depending on what's been agreed, you could even see a 7pm and 9pm kick off time for games taking place on the same night, not unlike the Europa League, and Champions League from this season.

They'll put the Bank Holiday fixtures back to back to back like La Liga does on a Saturday and Sunday. They could end up with four games in different slots starting from 12 and then can schedule at least one game on the day either side of the Bank Holiday.
What is interesting is that the Premier League won’t seem to divulge how much Amazon paid for the package. I wonder if Amazon got the package at a heavy discount.

I also think that this couldn’t have happened at a better time for the SPFL. It’s just if those in charge have the ability to use this as leverage.
I seen the figure somewhere, cant mind exactly how much it was but it was definitely down from the last set :thumbsup: As was the BT one
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7 Jun 2018, 01:44 PM
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7 Jun 2018, 11:52 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
The idea will be to prevent as many clashes as possible to maximise value. The Premier League had already announced that the games in these fixtures rounds don't all have to start at the same time.

So the midweek fixtures will be split between Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, with something like 3 fixtures on each of the first two nights and then two on the Thursday.

Depending on what's been agreed, you could even see a 7pm and 9pm kick off time for games taking place on the same night, not unlike the Europa League, and Champions League from this season.

They'll put the Bank Holiday fixtures back to back to back like La Liga does on a Saturday and Sunday. They could end up with four games in different slots starting from 12 and then can schedule at least one game on the day either side of the Bank Holiday.
What is interesting is that the Premier League won’t seem to divulge how much Amazon paid for the package. I wonder if Amazon got the package at a heavy discount.

I also think that this couldn’t have happened at a better time for the SPFL. It’s just if those in charge have the ability to use this as leverage.
Could be a stipulation of the Amazon contract. But yes, it is conspicuous by its absence.

They made £5.1bn from 2016-19. Even with the other package bought by BT for £270m this time, it brings the total excluding whatever Amazon paid to just shy of £4.75bn. So to stand still the Amazon deal would need to be work £350m.

However that's having offered 96 more live games over the lifetime of the new deal.

You'd have to think that the package they bought is more valuable given it includes a Bank Holiday fixture round, but given it is likely to be a streaming only service, you've got to wonder if Scudamore offered them a discount simply to get them involved.
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7 Jun 2018, 02:03 PM
The programme last night didn't show, that when Scotland went 1-0 up against Peru, they then missed a penalty, Don Mason, which would have made it 2-0.
No, Peru equalised near the end of the first half. Mason's penalty miss was at the beginning of the second half.
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