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6 Jun 2018, 11:49 PM
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3 points. 'Twas two points for a win in the old days Also sure they were two goals off going through.
4-1 would have seen Scotland through. It finished 3-2 though.
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6 Jun 2018, 11:52 PM
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Is anyone watching this BBC "documentary" about the 1978 global embarassment that is Ally MacLeod and his World Cup team that reached new heights in shaming Scotland?
“Peru, Iran, Scotland, Holland. The initials spelled out what we could expect from our team...pish.” Only a World Cup Excuse
I remember that the wind up sponsor drink was Barrs IranPeru . That ‘Italy 90 Only a World Cup Excuse’ was the high water mark for that series. Really superb stuff, well researched, acted and produced. Worlds away from what its television adaptation eventually became.
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7 Jun 2018, 12:15 AM
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4-1 would have seen Scotland through.
It finished 3-2 though. That’s why I said “would have”
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7 Jun 2018, 12:27 AM
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Is anyone watching this BBC "documentary" about the 1978 global embarassment that is Ally MacLeod and his World Cup team that reached new heights in shaming Scotland?
“Peru, Iran, Scotland, Holland. The initials spelled out what we could expect from our team...pish.” Only a World Cup Excuse
I remember that the wind up sponsor drink was Barrs IranPeru . All I remember was the replica strip was an itchy bassa and nearly ripped my ears off trying to take it off Only 5 years old
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7 Jun 2018, 12:32 AM
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Great team, Ally whipped it up and everyone loved it.
Only downside was that dick Andy Cameron.
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7 Jun 2018, 01:13 AM
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Had the world cup come 12 months earlier I genuinely believe we would have been last 8 definitely.
we had gone over to Argentina on a friendly and played them off the park, they only got a draw thanks to a shocking referee
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Drawing with Iran was one of the worst results in Scotland's entire history. That show confirmed previous stories, they did zero research on their opponents, and scraped a point against utter dross, and got pumped by a Peru side that they should be beating with the squad that Scotland had there. Then in classic Scotland fashion, somehow pulled themselves into having a faint chance in the last match, but also effed that up as well. The phrase "glorious failure" seems like it was designed for Scotland.
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7 Jun 2018, 02:57 AM
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It's pretty ridiculous that Scotland have never got past the 1st round of a world cup. Scotland had some top players but failure all the time.
Even N Ireland got out of round 1 in a world cup ffs
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7 Jun 2018, 06:39 AM
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Scottish Cup Final an evening kick off and promoted Livingston’s intention to lay a plastic pitch for next season means a quarter of the Premiership clubs will have artificial grass. Well, one is a definite.
THE LATE SHOW SFA chief Ian Maxwell says next year’s Scottish Cup final could take place in the EVENING if there’s potential to cash-in The former Partick Thistle supremo is hoping to announce a TV deal soon for the competition and admits it could be a later kick-off
Spoiler: click to toggle By Derek McGregor SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell has revealed next season’s Scottish Cup Final could move to an EVENING kick-off time. Maxwell made the stunning admission following his first Hampden AGM as successor to the axed Stewart Regan. He is confident a broadcast deal for the William Hill-sponsored competition is all but secured and close to being announced. And Maxwell, who quit as chief of relegated Partick Thistle, stated the traditional 3pm start for the showpiece CAN’T be allowed to get in the way if there’s the potential to cash-in by meeting any TV demands for change. SFA chiefs also have a new major sponsor to find following Vauxhall’s decision to pull out this summer. But Maxwell, 43, is confident commercial chief Chris Rawlings is on the ball with negotiations — helped by what he regards an attractive Scottish football scene. Asked directly if we could soon be following the lead of the English FA who six years ago controversially moved their Cup Final at Wembley to a 5.15pm kick-off, he said: “I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think anything is off the table. You would be daft to go into a negotiation with a position of ‘we don’t want, we don’t want, we don’t want’. “There is obviously a value attached to all these things and it’s about getting as much as we possibly can. “If that’s a decision that is made because we think it is in the best interests of the association and Scottish football, then so be it. “In terms of the William Hill Scottish Cup, we hope to be in a position whether it is a few weeks or a month to say ‘listen, we have got a broadcast deal for that’. “It is well documented the sponsorship is up but there are a number of people who are interested, it is not like we have nobody. “When you look at Scottish football and how we are trying to sell it, you’ve got Steven Gerrard coming in at Rangers, you’ve got Hibs and Aberdeen doing well in the last couple of seasons. “There are a lot of things that we have to talk up and use it as leverage to get the best deal we can. “Obviously, Celtic have done tremendously well to win the Treble in each of the last two seasons, but whether they can maintain that level remains to be seen. “The stronger we can get Scottish football as a whole, whether teams are challenging for the title or just European or cup final places, the better. Even the relegation battle was exciting this year.” Promoted Livingston’s intention to lay a plastic pitch for next season means a quarter of the Premiership clubs will have artifical grass. But Maxwell’s ‘fine’ with that, providing the quality of it is good enough. He said: “I don’t have concerns about it. Even the guys who have artificial pitches would say they would prefer to play on a good grass surface every week. “But because of the climate we are in, and costs of maintaining pitches, a lot of clubs go down the synthetic road now and it’s difficult to argue with it.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2748438/sfa-ian-maxwell-scottish-cup-late-kick-off/
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7 Jun 2018, 07:00 AM
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Scottish Cup Final an evening kick off and promoted Livingston’s intention to lay a plastic pitch for next season means a quarter of the Premiership clubs will have artificial grass. Well, one is a definite. THE LATE SHOW SFA chief Ian Maxwell says next year’s Scottish Cup final could take place in the EVENING if there’s potential to cash-inThe former Partick Thistle supremo is hoping to announce a TV deal soon for the competition and admits it could be a later kick-off Spoiler: click to toggle By Derek McGregor SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell has revealed next season’s Scottish Cup Final could move to an EVENING kick-off time. Maxwell made the stunning admission following his first Hampden AGM as successor to the axed Stewart Regan. He is confident a broadcast deal for the William Hill-sponsored competition is all but secured and close to being announced. And Maxwell, who quit as chief of relegated Partick Thistle, stated the traditional 3pm start for the showpiece CAN’T be allowed to get in the way if there’s the potential to cash-in by meeting any TV demands for change. SFA chiefs also have a new major sponsor to find following Vauxhall’s decision to pull out this summer. But Maxwell, 43, is confident commercial chief Chris Rawlings is on the ball with negotiations — helped by what he regards an attractive Scottish football scene. Asked directly if we could soon be following the lead of the English FA who six years ago controversially moved their Cup Final at Wembley to a 5.15pm kick-off, he said: “I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think anything is off the table. You would be daft to go into a negotiation with a position of ‘we don’t want, we don’t want, we don’t want’. “There is obviously a value attached to all these things and it’s about getting as much as we possibly can. “If that’s a decision that is made because we think it is in the best interests of the association and Scottish football, then so be it. “In terms of the William Hill Scottish Cup, we hope to be in a position whether it is a few weeks or a month to say ‘listen, we have got a broadcast deal for that’. “It is well documented the sponsorship is up but there are a number of people who are interested, it is not like we have nobody. “When you look at Scottish football and how we are trying to sell it, you’ve got Steven Gerrard coming in at Rangers, you’ve got Hibs and Aberdeen doing well in the last couple of seasons. “There are a lot of things that we have to talk up and use it as leverage to get the best deal we can. “Obviously, Celtic have done tremendously well to win the Treble in each of the last two seasons, but whether they can maintain that level remains to be seen. “The stronger we can get Scottish football as a whole, whether teams are challenging for the title or just European or cup final places, the better. Even the relegation battle was exciting this year.” Promoted Livingston’s intention to lay a plastic pitch for next season means a quarter of the Premiership clubs will have artifical grass. But Maxwell’s ‘fine’ with that, providing the quality of it is good enough. He said: “I don’t have concerns about it. Even the guys who have artificial pitches would say they would prefer to play on a good grass surface every week. “But because of the climate we are in, and costs of maintaining pitches, a lot of clubs go down the synthetic road now and it’s difficult to argue with it.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2748438/sfa-ian-maxwell-scottish-cup-late-kick-off/
"Difficult to argue with " the synthetic pitches ??? It really isn't.
And I wonder if he actually talked about the clubs in the order quoted in that piece
Remember the time Lawwell was quoted as referring to "Rangers and Celtic".....
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7 Jun 2018, 07:14 AM
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4-1 would have put them through, aye.
But it ended up 3-2 so in the end up they were more than a goal away from going through Not if the extra goal had come against Iran.
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7 Jun 2018, 07:18 AM
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Scottish Cup Final an evening kick off and promoted Livingston’s intention to lay a plastic pitch for next season means a quarter of the Premiership clubs will have artificial grass. Well, one is a definite. THE LATE SHOW SFA chief Ian Maxwell says next year’s Scottish Cup final could take place in the EVENING if there’s potential to cash-inThe former Partick Thistle supremo is hoping to announce a TV deal soon for the competition and admits it could be a later kick-off Spoiler: click to toggle By Derek McGregor SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell has revealed next season’s Scottish Cup Final could move to an EVENING kick-off time. Maxwell made the stunning admission following his first Hampden AGM as successor to the axed Stewart Regan. He is confident a broadcast deal for the William Hill-sponsored competition is all but secured and close to being announced. And Maxwell, who quit as chief of relegated Partick Thistle, stated the traditional 3pm start for the showpiece CAN’T be allowed to get in the way if there’s the potential to cash-in by meeting any TV demands for change. SFA chiefs also have a new major sponsor to find following Vauxhall’s decision to pull out this summer. But Maxwell, 43, is confident commercial chief Chris Rawlings is on the ball with negotiations — helped by what he regards an attractive Scottish football scene. Asked directly if we could soon be following the lead of the English FA who six years ago controversially moved their Cup Final at Wembley to a 5.15pm kick-off, he said: “I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think anything is off the table. You would be daft to go into a negotiation with a position of ‘we don’t want, we don’t want, we don’t want’. “There is obviously a value attached to all these things and it’s about getting as much as we possibly can. “If that’s a decision that is made because we think it is in the best interests of the association and Scottish football, then so be it. “In terms of the William Hill Scottish Cup, we hope to be in a position whether it is a few weeks or a month to say ‘listen, we have got a broadcast deal for that’. “It is well documented the sponsorship is up but there are a number of people who are interested, it is not like we have nobody. “When you look at Scottish football and how we are trying to sell it, you’ve got Steven Gerrard coming in at Rangers, you’ve got Hibs and Aberdeen doing well in the last couple of seasons. “There are a lot of things that we have to talk up and use it as leverage to get the best deal we can. “Obviously, Celtic have done tremendously well to win the Treble in each of the last two seasons, but whether they can maintain that level remains to be seen. “The stronger we can get Scottish football as a whole, whether teams are challenging for the title or just European or cup final places, the better. Even the relegation battle was exciting this year.” Promoted Livingston’s intention to lay a plastic pitch for next season means a quarter of the Premiership clubs will have artifical grass. But Maxwell’s ‘fine’ with that, providing the quality of it is good enough. He said: “I don’t have concerns about it. Even the guys who have artificial pitches would say they would prefer to play on a good grass surface every week. “But because of the climate we are in, and costs of maintaining pitches, a lot of clubs go down the synthetic road now and it’s difficult to argue with it.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2748438/sfa-ian-maxwell-scottish-cup-late-kick-off/
"Difficult to argue with " the synthetic pitches ??? It really isn't. And I wonder if he actually talked about the clubs in the order quoted in that piece Remember the time Lawwell was quoted as referring to "Rangers and Celtic"..... All of his quotes read like they were written by a Scottish sports hack.
The “listen, ...” patter; sentences that begin “I’ll be honest with you...”.
It comes across as a Barry Ferguson or Kris Boyd piece, or a Jackson or McGowan opinion article, where it’s clearly a journalist writing in that annoying as eff conversational mode they seem to think sounds good.
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Unless the Cup Final is going to be on a different day to the English one, then where's the commercial interest in having it in the evening? Unless its going to be 7.45, no broadcaster is going to put it up against the English Cup final especially when there's no other games that day. Its effing daft.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepOnly a World Cup Excuse
I remember that the wind up sponsor drink was Barrs IranPeru .
All I remember was the replica strip was an itchy bassa and nearly ripped my ears off trying to take it off Only 5 years old I saw a guy wearing that very top in my local baker yesterday.
Was instantly transported back to the inside of a shampooey caravan (which constantly smelled of fried, fatty bacon. Boak.) on a miserable wet day while watching the Iran 1-1 debacle on a tiny B&W portable TV.
Such was the trauma that I can't even remember WHERE we were on holiday at the time. Somewhere in Englandland, I think.
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7 Jun 2018, 09:00 AM
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Drawing with Iran was one of the worst results in Scotland's entire history. That show confirmed previous stories, they did zero research on their opponents, and scraped a point against utter dross, and got pumped by a Peru side that they should be beating with the squad that Scotland had there. Then in classic Scotland fashion, somehow pulled themselves into having a faint chance in the last match, but also effed that up as well. The phrase "glorious failure" seems like it was designed for Scotland. Noticed we did not have 1 player in the squad...before my time but were we THAT bad we had 0 player(s) in the squad?
NB - Know the huns won the treble that year was it close or where they far and away better than us and a other teams?
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7 Jun 2018, 09:01 AM
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Great team, Ally whipped it up and everyone loved it.
Only downside was that dick Andy Cameron. https://youtu.be/opsudWaeNqk
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the programme is now on BBC I-player, if anyone missed it
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Unless the Cup Final is going to be on a different day to the English one, then where's the commercial interest in having it in the evening? Unless its going to be 7.45, no broadcaster is going to put it up against the English Cup final especially when there's no other games that day. Its effing daft. It usually coincides with the CL Final - so a 7.45 slot would pit the Scottish Cup Final against the biggest day of the biggest footballing even outside of the World Cup
Sounds like a classic SFA move
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Drawing with Iran was one of the worst results in Scotland's entire history. That show confirmed previous stories, they did zero research on their opponents, and scraped a point against utter dross, and got pumped by a Peru side that they should be beating with the squad that Scotland had there. Then in classic Scotland fashion, somehow pulled themselves into having a faint chance in the last match, but also effed that up as well. The phrase "glorious failure" seems like it was designed for Scotland.
Noticed we did not have 1 player in the squad...before my time but were we THAT bad we had 0 player(s) in the squad? NB - Know the huns won the treble that year was it close or where they far and away better than us and a other teams? Peter Latchford Alan Sneddon Andy Lynch Johannes Edvaldsson Roddy MacDonald Mike Conroy George McCluskey Ronnie Glavin Joe Craig Tom McAdam Johnny Doyle Roy Aitken John Dowie Tommy Burns
A selection of players from our team that year. Very much transitional. Huns did little after til Sourness. Aitken and Burns were probably too young. Also have to remember Scottish players were mainstays in league and European Cup winning English teams at that time.
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Unless the Cup Final is going to be on a different day to the English one, then where's the commercial interest in having it in the evening? Unless its going to be 7.45, no broadcaster is going to put it up against the English Cup final especially when there's no other games that day. Its effing daft.
It usually coincides with the CL Final - so a 7.45 slot would pit the Scottish Cup Final against the biggest day of the biggest footballing even outside of the World Cup Sounds like a classic SFA move They are on different days now. UEFA insist that the CL final is the only game that day, its why the Scottish Cup final was a Sunday a few years back.
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