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elparaiso
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23 Apr 2018, 11:35 PM
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Waddell telling them the facts of life in the Mail today. Feel the Staunchness
Time for a few introductions. Rangers fans … meet the Foundation of Hearts. Meet the St Mirren Independent Supporters Association. Meet the Well Society.
You’re bigger than all of them put together, three times over. You’re the second biggest shareholder in the second biggest club in the country.
Yet they have something you don’t. Their clubs’ destinies in their own hands.
It’s time to ask yourselves – and ask them – how that happened. Then find a way of making it happen for you.
Because if you’re all still dumb enough to think the future of your own club should lie in the hands of Dave King or anyone remotely like him?
Hell mend you.
Constantly filling all four sides of Ibrox like vulnerable chicks in a nest, mouths agape, waiting for daddy Dave to come home to feed you.
Then just accepting the shovelfuls of excrement he tips down your throat on a daily basis without question.
Will there never be a point where you choke on all the s***?
The permanently inane statements, the awful recruitment, the disgraceful handling of the Derek McInnes affair, the stupidity of undermining Graeme Murty last week, the pointless confrontations in court over the takeover.
Aided and abetted by Alastair Johnston trying to tell you you’ve never had it so good, that you should be grateful you’re “ahead of the curve”.
“We’re probably doing a little better than we imagined running out at Brechin in the fourth tier,” Johnston said.
Is he kidding?
Six years to establish a new culture and a new baseline for a club with the second biggest budget in the country and they couldn’t foresee better than a battle to avoid fourth? There are amoeba with more vivid imaginations than that.
So how do you fix Rangers?
The saddest thing is that the answer is exactly the same as it was in 2012 – but they still haven’t figured it out.
It doesn’t lie in sugar daddies or over-investing or chasing another club who are so far beyond your horizon you can’t even see their trail of dust.
It doesn’t lie in the pie in the sky aim of stopping 10-in-a-row.
It lies in fundamentals. It lies in moving inch by inch forward rather than trying to take every short cut going and winding up further away than where you started.
The trouble was, no one asked the right questions at the start. Rangers had a blank sheet of paper but never established what they wanted a 21st century version of the club to look like.
Instead, they defaulted to the old ‘We are the people’ sense of entitlement, the ‘We’re Rangers so will behave like Rangers’ mantra.
And they’re suffering the consequences for their lack of foresight.
But if the fans could find true leadership and cohesion it shouldn’t be too late for them to establish a new baseline.
If Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell can find a sustainable model, then how can a club with 50,000 supporters there every home match not manage it?
Especially when their latent support is as substantial.
I watched the Scottish Cup semi-final with Celtic in a casino in Gold Coast, Australia, last week.
There were Gers fans there suffering every bit as much as those in the stands at Hampden.
They still feel invested in their club, despite their disenfranchisement. That can still be harnessed.
What they must realise though is that sorting Rangers was – and still is – a long-term project.
They can’t be gullible enough to think there’s a quick fix still just around the corner. They’ve wasted six years looking for a unicorn farting moonbeams and they can’t afford to waste any more.
They’re still built on shifting sands, despite all the promises.
In the past four years, the losses they’ve posted in their accounts go back £6.7m, £3.3m. £7.5m and £8.1m.
They still have in excess of £17m of ‘soft loans’ that they insist will be turned into equity as soon as they’re able to get a share issue off the ground.
Those aren’t the foundations for a great leap forward. So the fans have to mobilise, unify, find cohesion and leadership, and understand their own power.
Not just blindly renew their 40,000-plus season tickets. Their Union Bears are planning a silent protest for the Hearts game today – is it possible to make a morgue more quiet? – but they need their voices heard, not quelled.
The problem they’ve always had is not having a single voice to represent them. The establishment of Club 1872 was supposed to put paid to that, an amalgam of the Rangers Supporters Trust and RangersFirst, as a vehicle to buy up shares and create themselves a force.
But there’s still a bit of Monty Python about them – they’re still the Judean People’s Front one week and the People’s Front of Judea the next.
To be credible, they need a reliable figurehead to carry them forward. Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell all say that establishing a unity of purpose was pivotal in them getting momentum.
Either way, they’re Rangers’ only road to salvation right now. Not King.
They require a sustainable template and getting it right – not getting it quick – should be their only focus.
If they can get a membership scheme up and running, they can create a rock-solid bank of last resort for their club.
The Foundation of Hearts transfers £1.5m a year into the coffers every year from 8000 members.
But Rangers fans need leadership. They’re getting none from the top, so they’re going to have to look within.
And instead of King being forced to offer to buy their shares, they should be trying to find a way to buy his.
Heh. Took him long enough  I'm not convinced that fan ownership is a workable model for anything but smaller 'community' sides. Nice concept, but I struggle to see how it works in practice. Too many chiefs.
Aside from that, it's remarkable it's taken so long for him to report on what was blatantly obvious 6 years ago. The opportunity was there for Sevco to make a fresh start and build a club on solid foundations but they consistently blew it in the belief they were the same entity as before with the same financial strength. They should have been much closer to us by now than they are. Instead they are as far away as they were in the fourth tier. Which is nice.
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24 Apr 2018, 08:37 AM
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- elparaiso
- 23 Apr 2018, 11:35 PM
- shugmc
- 22 Apr 2018, 10:46 AM
- Torquemada
- 22 Apr 2018, 10:17 AM
Waddell telling them the facts of life in the Mail today. Feel the Staunchness
Time for a few introductions. Rangers fans … meet the Foundation of Hearts. Meet the St Mirren Independent Supporters Association. Meet the Well Society.
You’re bigger than all of them put together, three times over. You’re the second biggest shareholder in the second biggest club in the country.
Yet they have something you don’t. Their clubs’ destinies in their own hands.
It’s time to ask yourselves – and ask them – how that happened. Then find a way of making it happen for you.
Because if you’re all still dumb enough to think the future of your own club should lie in the hands of Dave King or anyone remotely like him?
Hell mend you.
Constantly filling all four sides of Ibrox like vulnerable chicks in a nest, mouths agape, waiting for daddy Dave to come home to feed you.
Then just accepting the shovelfuls of excrement he tips down your throat on a daily basis without question.
Will there never be a point where you choke on all the s***?
The permanently inane statements, the awful recruitment, the disgraceful handling of the Derek McInnes affair, the stupidity of undermining Graeme Murty last week, the pointless confrontations in court over the takeover.
Aided and abetted by Alastair Johnston trying to tell you you’ve never had it so good, that you should be grateful you’re “ahead of the curve”.
“We’re probably doing a little better than we imagined running out at Brechin in the fourth tier,” Johnston said.
Is he kidding?
Six years to establish a new culture and a new baseline for a club with the second biggest budget in the country and they couldn’t foresee better than a battle to avoid fourth? There are amoeba with more vivid imaginations than that.
So how do you fix Rangers?
The saddest thing is that the answer is exactly the same as it was in 2012 – but they still haven’t figured it out.
It doesn’t lie in sugar daddies or over-investing or chasing another club who are so far beyond your horizon you can’t even see their trail of dust.
It doesn’t lie in the pie in the sky aim of stopping 10-in-a-row.
It lies in fundamentals. It lies in moving inch by inch forward rather than trying to take every short cut going and winding up further away than where you started.
The trouble was, no one asked the right questions at the start. Rangers had a blank sheet of paper but never established what they wanted a 21st century version of the club to look like.
Instead, they defaulted to the old ‘We are the people’ sense of entitlement, the ‘We’re Rangers so will behave like Rangers’ mantra.
And they’re suffering the consequences for their lack of foresight.
But if the fans could find true leadership and cohesion it shouldn’t be too late for them to establish a new baseline.
If Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell can find a sustainable model, then how can a club with 50,000 supporters there every home match not manage it?
Especially when their latent support is as substantial.
I watched the Scottish Cup semi-final with Celtic in a casino in Gold Coast, Australia, last week.
There were Gers fans there suffering every bit as much as those in the stands at Hampden.
They still feel invested in their club, despite their disenfranchisement. That can still be harnessed.
What they must realise though is that sorting Rangers was – and still is – a long-term project.
They can’t be gullible enough to think there’s a quick fix still just around the corner. They’ve wasted six years looking for a unicorn farting moonbeams and they can’t afford to waste any more.
They’re still built on shifting sands, despite all the promises.
In the past four years, the losses they’ve posted in their accounts go back £6.7m, £3.3m. £7.5m and £8.1m.
They still have in excess of £17m of ‘soft loans’ that they insist will be turned into equity as soon as they’re able to get a share issue off the ground.
Those aren’t the foundations for a great leap forward. So the fans have to mobilise, unify, find cohesion and leadership, and understand their own power.
Not just blindly renew their 40,000-plus season tickets. Their Union Bears are planning a silent protest for the Hearts game today – is it possible to make a morgue more quiet? – but they need their voices heard, not quelled.
The problem they’ve always had is not having a single voice to represent them. The establishment of Club 1872 was supposed to put paid to that, an amalgam of the Rangers Supporters Trust and RangersFirst, as a vehicle to buy up shares and create themselves a force.
But there’s still a bit of Monty Python about them – they’re still the Judean People’s Front one week and the People’s Front of Judea the next.
To be credible, they need a reliable figurehead to carry them forward. Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell all say that establishing a unity of purpose was pivotal in them getting momentum.
Either way, they’re Rangers’ only road to salvation right now. Not King.
They require a sustainable template and getting it right – not getting it quick – should be their only focus.
If they can get a membership scheme up and running, they can create a rock-solid bank of last resort for their club.
The Foundation of Hearts transfers £1.5m a year into the coffers every year from 8000 members.
But Rangers fans need leadership. They’re getting none from the top, so they’re going to have to look within.
And instead of King being forced to offer to buy their shares, they should be trying to find a way to buy his.
Heh. Took him long enough 
I'm not convinced that fan ownership is a workable model for anything but smaller 'community' sides. Nice concept, but I struggle to see how it works in practice. Too many chiefs. Aside from that, it's remarkable it's taken so long for him to report on what was blatantly obvious 6 years ago. The opportunity was there for Sevco to make a fresh start and build a club on solid foundations but they consistently blew it in the belief they were the same entity as before with the same financial strength. They should have been much closer to us by now than they are. Instead they are as far away as they were in the fourth tier. Which is nice. Indeed. I wonder how the Sevco fans will react to that article?
Will they say, "he's right, we need to start doing things properly", or will they say, "he's a tarrier, we need to throw a brick through the window of a Catholic Church".
Decisions, decisions
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24 Apr 2018, 08:43 AM
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I had a look 1) they are raging he calls them the second biggest club 2) they think most of what he says is true 3) they say that they couldn't reset the club as the spivs robbed them during the journey.
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25 Apr 2018, 06:44 AM
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MSM reporting Steven Gerard as “odds on favourite” for the Huns job
Where the f**k do they get this p*sh from..?
Completely baffles me......
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25 Apr 2018, 07:00 AM
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- 25 Apr 2018, 06:44 AM
MSM reporting Steven Gerard as “odds on favourite” for the Huns job Where the f**k do they get this p*sh from..? Completely baffles me...... The Scottish Sun is saying that Dave King was at Anfield last night for the Liverpool Vs Roma game.
Couldn't make Hampden for the SC semi-final though.
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25 Apr 2018, 08:02 AM
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- 25 Apr 2018, 06:44 AM
MSM reporting Steven Gerard as “odds on favourite” for the Huns job Where the f**k do they get this p*sh from..? Completely baffles me......
The Scottish Sun is saying that Dave King was at Anfield last night for the Liverpool Vs Roma game. Couldn't make Hampden for the SC semi-final though. Probably looking for a refund on Rossiter
Hope they appoint Gerrard. Exactly the type of appointment they don't need.
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25 Apr 2018, 08:18 AM
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- 25 Apr 2018, 06:44 AM
MSM reporting Steven Gerard as “odds on favourite” for the Huns job Where the f**k do they get this p*sh from..? Completely baffles me......
The Scottish Sun is saying that Dave King was at Anfield last night for the Liverpool Vs Roma game. Couldn't make Hampden for the SC semi-final though.
Probably looking for a refund on Rossiter Hope they appoint Gerrard. Exactly the type of appointment they don't need. Gerrard seems a decent sort.
He won’t be within a country mile of them.
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25 Apr 2018, 08:50 AM
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Hi Brendan’s it’s Stevie G ‘ere
Hi Stevie G - s’happenin?
Should I take di rangers job?
Yes Stevie G - yes - they’re in great shape on and off the pitch and it’s the ideal first job for a good celtic fan - they’ll love you
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The BBC on full tilt "sell season book" mode today I see.
Guys, how does it feel to be in the pocket of that slug Traynor?
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25 Apr 2018, 06:05 PM
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The BBC on full tilt "sell season book" mode today I see.
Guys, how does it feel to be in the pocket of that slug Traynor? To be fair to them these hacks they probably convince themselves they are simply doing their club a favour, ignoring the reality of being put in their position to be a paid, complicit mouthpiece not a good or balanced reporter, their job dependent on feeding propaganda for whichever suit profits from their support. It's not about talent in any discernible way, it's toeing the weasel line and being thankful you're one of the remaining few sailors on the sinking ship.
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25 Apr 2018, 08:59 PM
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- 25 Apr 2018, 10:40 AM
The BBC on full tilt "sell season book" mode today I see.
Guys, how does it feel to be in the pocket of that slug Traynor?
To be fair to them these hacks they probably convince themselves they are simply doing their club a favour, ignoring the reality of being put in their position to be a paid, complicit mouthpiece not a good or balanced reporter, their job dependent on feeding propaganda for whichever suit profits from their support. It's not about talent in any discernible way, it's toeing the weasel line and being thankful you're one of the remaining few sailors on the sinking ship. Can't really understand why anyone would want to be fair to them .
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GARNGAD BHOY TEXAS USA
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26 Apr 2018, 07:11 PM
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Garngad bhoy done good ...
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- 25 Apr 2018, 06:44 AM
MSM reporting Steven Gerard as “odds on favourite” for the Huns job Where the f**k do they get this p*sh from..? Completely baffles me...... They are wetting themselves over Steven Gerrard..... Oh my sides are sore.....
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26 Apr 2018, 10:05 PM
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Keith Jackson did NOT win Sports Journalist of the year at the Press Awards. Journalist of the Year award still to be awarded though so fingers crossed
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26 Apr 2018, 10:06 PM
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- 26 Apr 2018, 10:05 PM
Keith Jackson did NOT win Sports Journalist of the year at the Press Awards. Journalist of the Year award still to be awarded though so fingers crossed Did Chris Jack swoop for it instead?
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26 Apr 2018, 10:31 PM
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Keith Jackson did NOT win Sports Journalist of the year at the Press Awards. Journalist of the Year award still to be awarded though so fingers crossed Who won it
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Keith Jackson did NOT win Sports Journalist of the year at the Press Awards. Journalist of the Year award still to be awarded though so fingers crossed
Who won it We demand to know who this winner is.
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26 Apr 2018, 10:40 PM
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Sports writer - Sean Wallace - Aberdeen evening news
Sports Columnist - Gary Keown - Scottish Mail on Sunday
Ol’ Keef was runner up on both.
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27 Apr 2018, 07:23 AM
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Next season starts on August the 4th, winter break starts December 31st, so no "Old Firm" game on Hogmanay.
FIRST DATES When is the first game of Scottish Premiership 2018/19 season? SPFL confirms dates for opening weekend, winter break and final-day fixtures Celtic are on course to clinch seven in a row and would unfurl the flag on the weekend of Saturday August 4
Spoiler: click to toggle Revealed By David Fowler THE SPFL have confirmed the 2018/19 league season will kick off on the weekend of Saturday August 4. The full fixture list for Premiership, Championship, League One and League Two clubs is set to be published on Friday June 15. Next season’s winter break is scheduled to run from Monday December 31 this year to Friday January 18, 2019. The final round of Premiership fixtures will take place on Saturday May 18 and Sunday May 19 next year with the play-off final decided over two legs – Thursday May 23 and Sunday May 26. The Championship, League One and League Two finale is pencilled in for Saturday May 4, 2019. SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster said: “We know that fixture publication day is an eagerly-anticipated date in the diary for fans across the country and we are very much looking forward to another exciting campaign of Scottish football in 2018/19. “There is still plenty to play for this season, including a thrilling Helicopter Saturday title decider double in Ladbrokes League 1 and Ladbrokes League 2 this weekend and the unrivalled tension and drama of the play-offs to follow next month.” Opening fixtures for all four divisions: Weekend of Saturday August 4, 2018 Ladbrokes Premiership winter break: Monday December 31, 2018 until Friday January 18, 2019 Ladbrokes Premiership final fixture round: Saturday May 18 and Sunday May 19, 2019 Ladbrokes Championship, League 1 and League 2 final fixture round: Saturday May 4, 2019 Ladbrokes Premiership play-off final: Thursday May 23 and Sunday May 26, 2019 * Play-off dates are subject to change in the event of a club being involved in both the Scottish Cup final and the play-off final https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2560410/first-game-of-scottish-premiership-2018-19-season-spfl-fixtures-opening-day/
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27 Apr 2018, 07:26 AM
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Sunday 30th then for the "Glasgow Derby"
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27 Apr 2018, 08:15 AM
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- 27 Apr 2018, 07:26 AM
Sunday 30th then for the "Glasgow Derby" Am i the only one who dislikes this game getting a set date? The fixtures should be entirely randomly set, without favur to any club or clubs. It's disrespectful to the rst of the league if certain derbies get preferential treatment.
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