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18 Apr 2018, 09:12 AM
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Jingle Jackson putting forward a very emotional defence of his dressing room sources. Sounds like his only sources given the tone of the article
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18 Apr 2018, 09:16 AM
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Tam McManus wants the Rangers dressing room mole to be nailed lol. The mole is most likely his pal, Miller.
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18 Apr 2018, 09:34 AM
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Mark my words, there are things going on behind the scenes which should be setting off alarm bells. I’m told Bates got offered just a £250 pay rise so it’s little wonder he decided it was time to go.Do tell Kris. King sized hangover Rangers’ problems right now start at the top – it’s high time Dave King had some major questions asked of him, says Kris BoydThere will be Gers fans who criticise me for writing this but what's going on at Ibrox right now hurts me just as much as it hurts any of them Spoiler: click to toggle By Kris Boyd IT was a shambles, a disgrace and an utter humiliation for Rangers as a football club. Graeme Murty and his players will have to take some of the responsibility for what happened on the pitch at Hampden. Losing 4-0 to Celtic was embarrassing all right. No one in a Light Blue jersey can hold their heads high for the way they performed because, quite frankly, it wasn’t anywhere near good enough. The dire display only proved that many of them shouldn’t even be there. I’m sorry, though, the problems at Rangers right now start at the top. I have been saying it for months but, in my opinion, Dave King is guilty of gross mismanagement. If you ask me, it’s high time he had some major questions asked of him. Although maybe someone on that Ibrox board should just pay him the £20million he supposedly lost to David Murray and watch him go. I just don’t think his chairmanship of Rangers has been good enough. He sanctioned the appointment of Pedro Caixinha — which was doomed from the very beginning — and was then to blame in the negotiations with Derek McInnes. Now Murty is being left to carry the can for King’s incompetence. There will be Rangers fans who criticise me for writing this but what’s going on at Ibrox right now hurts me just as much as it hurts any of them. Listen, in the season I played for the club in the Championship, I was a disgrace and was rightly shown the door. But that was then the opportunity to rebuild — and yet here we are three years on and the club hasn’t moved forward an inch. I know some people think I have a personal agenda against King but I couldn’t care less. Fact is, I hate seeing my old club the way it is right now. And for me, those supporters who are paying their hard-earned money for season tickets are being appallingly short-changed. All they’ve done throughout the years is plough their money into the football club. I’d question where exactly their cash has been spent — and they should too. It’s time for them to open their eyes and see what’s going on because what is happening just isn’t right. Their loyalty in turning up every week, no matter what, has been remarkable in the last few years, genuinely incredible in my opinion. But there’s definitely an argument to say they’re TOO loyal. Mark my words, there are things going on behind the scenes which should be setting off alarm bells. Is there even a shirt deal in place for next season? Rangers should have their jerseys manufactured by one of the big sports firms, not a smaller company — but that seems to be the way they’re heading. Then there’s Mark Allen, the so-called director of football. I’m sorry, but what does he actually bring to the table? What does he actually do to earn his big-money salary? He’s meant to be building things for the future, so why did he allow an up-and-coming player like David Bates to sign for another club? I’m told Bates got offered just a £250 pay rise so it’s little wonder he decided it was time to go. It was similar with Danny Wilson. People might argue about how good those two boys actually are as players but what worries me is the way they were treated, the way their contract talks were handled. Do you think Wilson wanted to uproot his family and go halfway around the world to play in the MLS? But Allen seems to have mismanaged that situation and left him with no option. The club tried to put a positive spin on things when they brought in a handful of players during the January transfer window but it wasn’t good enough. I may have bought into it myself, if I’m being honest. I looked at the signings and talked them up, mainly because I wanted to see them do well. But Rangers shouldn’t be signing so many loan players when they’re trying to bridge a gap with Celtic, they’ve got to be bigger than that. There are Rangers cheerleader pundits who point to the big money Celtic have spent in comparison to everyone else. But the money Rangers have spent is more than Aberdeen and Hibs put together — and Kilmarnock too for that matter — and yet they’ve only won four of the nine games against them. When it comes to signings Rangers have guys on loan who can’t get a game right now and yet we’re led to believe they’ll be signing long-term deals in the summer. How is that going to take Rangers forward? If you can’t get into that team now then how are you going to take the team to the next level? The worry is that Rangers aren’t going to move forward any time soon, not with the current board and directors in charge. Or Murty. He’s not responsible for the mess the club is in, but he’s clearly not helping the situation either. The way the team played at Hampden was utterly shambolic and he has to hold his hands up for that. He was quite happy to take the credit for drawing at Parkhead so he has to accept a certain amount of criticism now. He was the man who came out and said the players in the changing room cheered when the draw was made and Rangers got Celtic. That was all just false bravado and Murty trying to act big. Just like the way he chucked Andy Halliday under the bus by substituting him two minutes before half-time. Did you notice throughout the game, too, that Jonatan Johansson and Jimmy Nicholl stayed in the dugout for most of the 90 minutes? There didn’t seem to be a lot of togetherness there. But that’s Rangers right now. From top to bottom. The Kris Boyd Charity supports anyone experiencing mental health issues. To find out more, get help or donate visit thekrisboydcharity.co.uk https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2514097/rangers-dave-king-major-questions-scottish-cup-celtic-kris-boyd/
Maybe concentrate on Kilmarnock kris you know the club who pays your wages. So unprofessional to be spouting that sort of nonsense when you play in the same league as the club in question. It's beyond belief that Boyd gets away with this. What must the Kilmarnock fans think of this?? Mrs Aycliffe was asking me who he was on Sunday,she couldn't get her head round he is still playing for another club in the same league.
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18 Apr 2018, 10:01 AM
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Mark my words, there are things going on behind the scenes which should be setting off alarm bells. I’m told Bates got offered just a £250 pay rise so it’s little wonder he decided it was time to go.Do tell Kris. King sized hangover Rangers’ problems right now start at the top – it’s high time Dave King had some major questions asked of him, says Kris BoydThere will be Gers fans who criticise me for writing this but what's going on at Ibrox right now hurts me just as much as it hurts any of them Spoiler: click to toggle By Kris Boyd IT was a shambles, a disgrace and an utter humiliation for Rangers as a football club. Graeme Murty and his players will have to take some of the responsibility for what happened on the pitch at Hampden. Losing 4-0 to Celtic was embarrassing all right. No one in a Light Blue jersey can hold their heads high for the way they performed because, quite frankly, it wasn’t anywhere near good enough. The dire display only proved that many of them shouldn’t even be there. I’m sorry, though, the problems at Rangers right now start at the top. I have been saying it for months but, in my opinion, Dave King is guilty of gross mismanagement. If you ask me, it’s high time he had some major questions asked of him. Although maybe someone on that Ibrox board should just pay him the £20million he supposedly lost to David Murray and watch him go. I just don’t think his chairmanship of Rangers has been good enough. He sanctioned the appointment of Pedro Caixinha — which was doomed from the very beginning — and was then to blame in the negotiations with Derek McInnes. Now Murty is being left to carry the can for King’s incompetence. There will be Rangers fans who criticise me for writing this but what’s going on at Ibrox right now hurts me just as much as it hurts any of them. Listen, in the season I played for the club in the Championship, I was a disgrace and was rightly shown the door. But that was then the opportunity to rebuild — and yet here we are three years on and the club hasn’t moved forward an inch. I know some people think I have a personal agenda against King but I couldn’t care less. Fact is, I hate seeing my old club the way it is right now. And for me, those supporters who are paying their hard-earned money for season tickets are being appallingly short-changed. All they’ve done throughout the years is plough their money into the football club. I’d question where exactly their cash has been spent — and they should too. It’s time for them to open their eyes and see what’s going on because what is happening just isn’t right. Their loyalty in turning up every week, no matter what, has been remarkable in the last few years, genuinely incredible in my opinion. But there’s definitely an argument to say they’re TOO loyal. Mark my words, there are things going on behind the scenes which should be setting off alarm bells. Is there even a shirt deal in place for next season? Rangers should have their jerseys manufactured by one of the big sports firms, not a smaller company — but that seems to be the way they’re heading. Then there’s Mark Allen, the so-called director of football. I’m sorry, but what does he actually bring to the table? What does he actually do to earn his big-money salary? He’s meant to be building things for the future, so why did he allow an up-and-coming player like David Bates to sign for another club? I’m told Bates got offered just a £250 pay rise so it’s little wonder he decided it was time to go. It was similar with Danny Wilson. People might argue about how good those two boys actually are as players but what worries me is the way they were treated, the way their contract talks were handled. Do you think Wilson wanted to uproot his family and go halfway around the world to play in the MLS? But Allen seems to have mismanaged that situation and left him with no option. The club tried to put a positive spin on things when they brought in a handful of players during the January transfer window but it wasn’t good enough. I may have bought into it myself, if I’m being honest. I looked at the signings and talked them up, mainly because I wanted to see them do well. But Rangers shouldn’t be signing so many loan players when they’re trying to bridge a gap with Celtic, they’ve got to be bigger than that. There are Rangers cheerleader pundits who point to the big money Celtic have spent in comparison to everyone else. But the money Rangers have spent is more than Aberdeen and Hibs put together — and Kilmarnock too for that matter — and yet they’ve only won four of the nine games against them. When it comes to signings Rangers have guys on loan who can’t get a game right now and yet we’re led to believe they’ll be signing long-term deals in the summer. How is that going to take Rangers forward? If you can’t get into that team now then how are you going to take the team to the next level? The worry is that Rangers aren’t going to move forward any time soon, not with the current board and directors in charge. Or Murty. He’s not responsible for the mess the club is in, but he’s clearly not helping the situation either. The way the team played at Hampden was utterly shambolic and he has to hold his hands up for that. He was quite happy to take the credit for drawing at Parkhead so he has to accept a certain amount of criticism now. He was the man who came out and said the players in the changing room cheered when the draw was made and Rangers got Celtic. That was all just false bravado and Murty trying to act big. Just like the way he chucked Andy Halliday under the bus by substituting him two minutes before half-time. Did you notice throughout the game, too, that Jonatan Johansson and Jimmy Nicholl stayed in the dugout for most of the 90 minutes? There didn’t seem to be a lot of togetherness there. But that’s Rangers right now. From top to bottom. The Kris Boyd Charity supports anyone experiencing mental health issues. To find out more, get help or donate visit thekrisboydcharity.co.uk https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2514097/rangers-dave-king-major-questions-scottish-cup-celtic-kris-boyd/
Maybe concentrate on Kilmarnock kris you know the club who pays your wages. So unprofessional to be spouting that sort of nonsense when you play in the same league as the club in question. "Although maybe someone on that Ibrox board should just pay him the £20million he supposedly lost to David Murray and watch him go."
Aye, cos there's no end of folk with a spare £20 million lying around that they can just pay him off with. And even then, none of it would enrich the club anyway.
They just don't - or won't - effing learn!
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18 Apr 2018, 10:26 AM
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From that Boyd bilge: "Is there even a shirt deal in place for next season? Rangers should have their jerseys manufactured by one of the big sports firms, not a smaller company — but that seems to be the way they’re heading." Why? Companies get what they pay for and they get associated with the baggage. Which is currently as toxic as any Whyte/Green/Mather/Wallace/Llambias stuff. For what it's worth a Tim supporting mate who works with a kit supplier, who'll remain nameless, was relieved that they did not get the Hun contract which they had bid for, and that the new club's kits will be Umbro next year. I am not sure that'll meet Boyd's standard.
Don't get why the nameless kit company applied for the business.if they were relieved not to get it. He was relieved because as a Tim he would have had to deal with their account.
That level of tribalism obviously doesn't extend to the company he works for.
He seemed adamant it was Umbro. Appears it may be Hummel, but a that appears to be based solely on Hummel following the Huns on Twitter at this point.
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18 Apr 2018, 10:33 AM
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From that Boyd bilge: "Is there even a shirt deal in place for next season? Rangers should have their jerseys manufactured by one of the big sports firms, not a smaller company — but that seems to be the way they’re heading." Why? Companies get what they pay for and they get associated with the baggage. Which is currently as toxic as any Whyte/Green/Mather/Wallace/Llambias stuff. For what it's worth a Tim supporting mate who works with a kit supplier, who'll remain nameless, was relieved that they did not get the Hun contract which they had bid for, and that the new club's kits will be Umbro next year. I am not sure that'll meet Boyd's standard.
Don't get why the nameless kit company applied for the business.if they were relieved not to get it.
He was relieved because as a Tim he would have had to deal with their account. That level of tribalism obviously doesn't extend to the company he works for. He seemed adamant it was Umbro. Appears it may be Hummel, but a that appears to be based solely on Hummel following the Huns on Twitter at this point. Umbro, proud makers of the Hashtag United kit? That Umbro? Well, there endeth all the fun for us then
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18 Apr 2018, 10:40 AM
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If you think about it, Miller and Wallace rounding on the under 20's coach because he can't beat a vastly superior Celtic side is pretty disgraceful. Murty never asked for this responsibility. He's a coach, not a manager. Verbally abusing the guy and screaming at him in front of the other players (especially when one of them is the club captain) is disgusting.
Wallace signed up for the 'journey'. He took the money over a real career and now he's blowing his stack at an innocent party because the reality of his decision is finally sinking in.
Both of them should be out on the street.
Aye. Pathetic from them. You'd think footballers would suss out that even if they win the battle they lose the war and end up getting transferred.
Murty has gambled by helping them out a second time, when no working manager worth their salt would take that job in the current situation - see McInnes for evidence of that.
He dug them out of a hole just by taking it. He's way out of his depth and has looked on the verge of tears after games a few times. No sympathy for him, because he took the job knowing the environment.
But the senior players should have a bit more about them. Miller is 38 and wouldn't be playing under a better manager anyway, regardless of what his missus says on Twitter.
Maybe it's always been there and I've never noticed it, but he seems to see himself as a bit of a ticket these days.
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18 Apr 2018, 10:43 AM
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If you think about it, Miller and Wallace rounding on the under 20's coach because he can't beat a vastly superior Celtic side is pretty disgraceful. Murty never asked for this responsibility. He's a coach, not a manager. Verbally abusing the guy and screaming at him in front of the other players (especially when one of them is the club captain) is disgusting.
Wallace signed up for the 'journey'. He took the money over a real career and now he's blowing his stack at an innocent party because the reality of his decision is finally sinking in.
Both of them should be out on the street.
Aye. Pathetic from them. You'd think footballers would suss out that even if they win the battle they lose the war and end up getting transferred. Murty has gambled by helping them out a second time, when no working manager worth their salt would take that job in the current situation - see McInnes for evidence of that. He dug them out of a hole just by taking it. He's way out of his depth and has looked on the verge of tears after games a few times. No sympathy for him, because he took the job knowing the environment. But the senior players should have a bit more about them. Miller is 38 and wouldn't be playing under a better manager anyway, regardless of what his missus says on Twitter. Maybe it's always been there and I've never noticed it, but he seems to see himself as a bit of a ticket these days. I posted in the Sevco thread that Bill Leckie saying in The Sun today Wallace isn't even injured just now, simply not being selected. Miller would be gone at the end of the season anyway, but it would be interesting what, if any, bids came in for Wallace if they don't sack him/pay him off.
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18 Apr 2018, 10:47 AM
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If you think about it, Miller and Wallace rounding on the under 20's coach because he can't beat a vastly superior Celtic side is pretty disgraceful. Murty never asked for this responsibility. He's a coach, not a manager. Verbally abusing the guy and screaming at him in front of the other players (especially when one of them is the club captain) is disgusting.
Wallace signed up for the 'journey'. He took the money over a real career and now he's blowing his stack at an innocent party because the reality of his decision is finally sinking in.
Both of them should be out on the street.
Aye. Pathetic from them. You'd think footballers would suss out that even if they win the battle they lose the war and end up getting transferred. Murty has gambled by helping them out a second time, when no working manager worth their salt would take that job in the current situation - see McInnes for evidence of that. He dug them out of a hole just by taking it. He's way out of his depth and has looked on the verge of tears after games a few times. No sympathy for him, because he took the job knowing the environment. But the senior players should have a bit more about them. Miller is 38 and wouldn't be playing under a better manager anyway, regardless of what his missus says on Twitter. Maybe it's always been there and I've never noticed it, but he seems to see himself as a bit of a ticket these days.
I posted in the Sevco thread that Bill Leckie saying in The Sun today Wallace isn't even injured just now, simply not being selected. Miller would be gone at the end of the season anyway, but it would be interesting what, if any, bids came in for Wallace if they don't sack him/pay him off. Aye, apparently Murty had said he was fit and available for selection and still left him out.
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That was an absolute hatchet job on Murty by Keech. Never ceases to amaze me the Hun press. When they appoint a new manager it moonbeam after moonbeam and how wonderful they are. They are invariably given the easiest ride in football with no criticism at all no matter what happens. When it becomes apparent (like now) that they are not as good as they thought they were going to be and the current Hun manager is not going to get them to the promised land the word goes out and they turn on him. And when they do it is vicious as can been seen here.
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18 Apr 2018, 10:55 AM
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Mark my words, there are things going on behind the scenes which should be setting off alarm bells. I’m told Bates got offered just a £250 pay rise so it’s little wonder he decided it was time to go.Do tell Kris. King sized hangover Rangers’ problems right now start at the top – it’s high time Dave King had some major questions asked of him, says Kris BoydThere will be Gers fans who criticise me for writing this but what's going on at Ibrox right now hurts me just as much as it hurts any of them Spoiler: click to toggle By Kris Boyd IT was a shambles, a disgrace and an utter humiliation for Rangers as a football club. Graeme Murty and his players will have to take some of the responsibility for what happened on the pitch at Hampden. Losing 4-0 to Celtic was embarrassing all right. No one in a Light Blue jersey can hold their heads high for the way they performed because, quite frankly, it wasn’t anywhere near good enough. The dire display only proved that many of them shouldn’t even be there. I’m sorry, though, the problems at Rangers right now start at the top. I have been saying it for months but, in my opinion, Dave King is guilty of gross mismanagement. If you ask me, it’s high time he had some major questions asked of him. Although maybe someone on that Ibrox board should just pay him the £20million he supposedly lost to David Murray and watch him go. I just don’t think his chairmanship of Rangers has been good enough. He sanctioned the appointment of Pedro Caixinha — which was doomed from the very beginning — and was then to blame in the negotiations with Derek McInnes. Now Murty is being left to carry the can for King’s incompetence. There will be Rangers fans who criticise me for writing this but what’s going on at Ibrox right now hurts me just as much as it hurts any of them. Listen, in the season I played for the club in the Championship, I was a disgrace and was rightly shown the door. But that was then the opportunity to rebuild — and yet here we are three years on and the club hasn’t moved forward an inch. I know some people think I have a personal agenda against King but I couldn’t care less. Fact is, I hate seeing my old club the way it is right now. And for me, those supporters who are paying their hard-earned money for season tickets are being appallingly short-changed. All they’ve done throughout the years is plough their money into the football club. I’d question where exactly their cash has been spent — and they should too. It’s time for them to open their eyes and see what’s going on because what is happening just isn’t right. Their loyalty in turning up every week, no matter what, has been remarkable in the last few years, genuinely incredible in my opinion. But there’s definitely an argument to say they’re TOO loyal. Mark my words, there are things going on behind the scenes which should be setting off alarm bells. Is there even a shirt deal in place for next season? Rangers should have their jerseys manufactured by one of the big sports firms, not a smaller company — but that seems to be the way they’re heading. Then there’s Mark Allen, the so-called director of football. I’m sorry, but what does he actually bring to the table? What does he actually do to earn his big-money salary? He’s meant to be building things for the future, so why did he allow an up-and-coming player like David Bates to sign for another club? I’m told Bates got offered just a £250 pay rise so it’s little wonder he decided it was time to go. It was similar with Danny Wilson. People might argue about how good those two boys actually are as players but what worries me is the way they were treated, the way their contract talks were handled. Do you think Wilson wanted to uproot his family and go halfway around the world to play in the MLS? But Allen seems to have mismanaged that situation and left him with no option. The club tried to put a positive spin on things when they brought in a handful of players during the January transfer window but it wasn’t good enough. I may have bought into it myself, if I’m being honest. I looked at the signings and talked them up, mainly because I wanted to see them do well. But Rangers shouldn’t be signing so many loan players when they’re trying to bridge a gap with Celtic, they’ve got to be bigger than that. There are Rangers cheerleader pundits who point to the big money Celtic have spent in comparison to everyone else. But the money Rangers have spent is more than Aberdeen and Hibs put together — and Kilmarnock too for that matter — and yet they’ve only won four of the nine games against them. When it comes to signings Rangers have guys on loan who can’t get a game right now and yet we’re led to believe they’ll be signing long-term deals in the summer. How is that going to take Rangers forward? If you can’t get into that team now then how are you going to take the team to the next level? The worry is that Rangers aren’t going to move forward any time soon, not with the current board and directors in charge. Or Murty. He’s not responsible for the mess the club is in, but he’s clearly not helping the situation either. The way the team played at Hampden was utterly shambolic and he has to hold his hands up for that. He was quite happy to take the credit for drawing at Parkhead so he has to accept a certain amount of criticism now. He was the man who came out and said the players in the changing room cheered when the draw was made and Rangers got Celtic. That was all just false bravado and Murty trying to act big. Just like the way he chucked Andy Halliday under the bus by substituting him two minutes before half-time. Did you notice throughout the game, too, that Jonatan Johansson and Jimmy Nicholl stayed in the dugout for most of the 90 minutes? There didn’t seem to be a lot of togetherness there. But that’s Rangers right now. From top to bottom. The Kris Boyd Charity supports anyone experiencing mental health issues. To find out more, get help or donate visit thekrisboydcharity.co.uk https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2514097/rangers-dave-king-major-questions-scottish-cup-celtic-kris-boyd/
Maybe concentrate on Kilmarnock kris you know the club who pays your wages. So unprofessional to be spouting that sort of nonsense when you play in the same league as the club in question.
It's beyond belief that Boyd gets away with this. What must the Kilmarnock fans think of this?? Mrs Aycliffe was asking me who he was on Sunday,she couldn't get her head round he is still playing for another club in the same league. It was the same with Captain Trackie. He was "manager" at Clyde and there he was spouting off in the press every week on all matters Sevco. Where else in the world would you have a current player having a column in a national newspaper whose sole purpose is to pass comment on another team in the same league. Wouldn't happen. In fact it wouldn't even happen in Scotland if that team was any team other than Sevco. Can you imagine Gary Mackay Steven been given a weekly column to opine on all matters Celtic? Of course not. The Scottish press are as riddled with huns. Hope you are enjoying the current car crash you pieces of garbage.
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If you think about it, Miller and Wallace rounding on the under 20's coach because he can't beat a vastly superior Celtic side is pretty disgraceful. Murty never asked for this responsibility. He's a coach, not a manager. Verbally abusing the guy and screaming at him in front of the other players (especially when one of them is the club captain) is disgusting.
Wallace signed up for the 'journey'. He took the money over a real career and now he's blowing his stack at an innocent party because the reality of his decision is finally sinking in.
Both of them should be out on the street.
Aye. Pathetic from them. You'd think footballers would suss out that even if they win the battle they lose the war and end up getting transferred. Murty has gambled by helping them out a second time, when no working manager worth their salt would take that job in the current situation - see McInnes for evidence of that. He dug them out of a hole just by taking it. He's way out of his depth and has looked on the verge of tears after games a few times. No sympathy for him, because he took the job knowing the environment. But the senior players should have a bit more about them. Miller is 38 and wouldn't be playing under a better manager anyway, regardless of what his missus says on Twitter. Maybe it's always been there and I've never noticed it, but he seems to see himself as a bit of a ticket these days.
I posted in the Sevco thread that Bill Leckie saying in The Sun today Wallace isn't even injured just now, simply not being selected. Miller would be gone at the end of the season anyway, but it would be interesting what, if any, bids came in for Wallace if they don't sack him/pay him off. It looks to me like they're building up to have Wallace binned entirely. Dave King's done it time and again with employees he finds troublesome but more importantly expensive. Pena will probably be next.
Unless someone comes in for Wallace, but who knows what sort of sweetheart deal he got a couple of years ago (from Dave King, haha) as one of the Icons of Ibrox, lol.
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Alex Rae interviewed on shortbread for his take on the latest episode in sevconia. 'I think the board have been indecisive '. interviewer: 'they've just sacked the 2 most senior players in the team, that's pretty decisive Alex' 'maybe I didn't phrase that right' he spent the rest of the interview stuttering and contradicting himself throughout, trying and failing to sound semi intelligent. why anyone at the BBC thought this moron could bring any semblance of insight into this, is astounding. perhaps having an EBT gets you a free pass on the nation's broadcaster. They employ Derek Ferguson and Billy Dodds so what’s one more stuttering moron between friends?
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18 Apr 2018, 11:37 AM
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So, who is writing ‘Boyd’s’ articles? WTF among that fraternity of players, ex-players or journos would have had the faintest awareness or even interest in kit deals? And, fascinatingly, ‘Boyd’ dares to suggest that King’s £20m investment in the old huns didn’t happen! That’s red line crossed right there! Presumably it’s Grieve who knocks this guff out under Boyd’s name, who owns Grieve? Park? Is this the start of the huns’ favoured, ‘death-by-a thousand-slurs’ technique, for running guests out of Ibrox who have outstayed their welcome/usefulness?
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18 Apr 2018, 11:40 AM
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I posted in the Sevco thread that Bill Leckie saying in The Sun today Wallace isn't even injured just now, simply not being selected. Miller would be gone at the end of the season anyway, but it would be interesting what, if any, bids came in for Wallace if they don't sack him/pay him off.
Aye, apparently Murty had said he was fit and available for selection and still left him out. He'll end up at Hearts or Aberdeen.
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That was an absolute hatchet job on Murty by Keech. Never ceases to amaze me the Hun press. When they appoint a new manager it moonbeam after moonbeam and how wonderful they are. They are invariably given the easiest ride in football with no criticism at all no matter what happens. When it becomes apparent (like now) that they are not as good as they thought they were going to be and the current Hun manager is not going to get them to the promised land the word goes out and they turn on him. And when they do it is vicious as can been seen here. The club tried to put a positive spin on things when they brought in a handful of players during the January transfer window but it wasn’t good enough. I may have bought into it myself, if I’m being honest. I looked at the signings and talked them up, mainly because I wanted to see them do well.
Boyd admitted to basically just being a cheerleading moonbeam peddler. Shocked!
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Do folk actually care much about this?
I want to see Celtic treated like every other club. I want our matches to be officiated fairly, I want our club to be treated with respect by the media and I want our achievements given due credit. The reason those conditions don't prevail is not because we a 'Big Club', or that we have succeeded through some manner of skullduggery: we are singled out because of our heritage and history. Scotland's Shame is it's centuries old antipathy towards Ireland/Catholicism, and pathetic little gestures like denying Brendan Rogers the acclaim he deserves is another manifestation of that antipathy. Isn’t Stevie Clarke a Celtic man though?
Wouldn’t mind if he won it, although obviously Brendan would deserve it should he get the treble. In a league with as little prospect for success for most teams have, I do think you need to be a little more sharing with the smaller trophies.
I don’t think any manager looks back on their MOTY awards if they actually won trophies that season.
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I want to see Celtic treated like every other club. I want our matches to be officiated fairly, I want our club to be treated with respect by the media and I want our achievements given due credit. The reason those conditions don't prevail is not because we a 'Big Club', or that we have succeeded through some manner of skullduggery: we are singled out because of our heritage and history. Scotland's Shame is it's centuries old antipathy towards Ireland/Catholicism, and pathetic little gestures like denying Brendan Rogers the acclaim he deserves is another manifestation of that antipathy.
Isn’t Stevie Clarke a Celtic man though? Wouldn’t mind if he won it, although obviously Brendan would deserve it should he get the treble. In a league with as little prospect for success for most teams have, I do think you need to be a little more sharing with the smaller trophies. I don’t think any manager looks back on their MOTY awards if they actually won trophies that season. He's a Killie supporter.
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Isn’t Stevie Clarke a Celtic man though? Wouldn’t mind if he won it, although obviously Brendan would deserve it should he get the treble. In a league with as little prospect for success for most teams have, I do think you need to be a little more sharing with the smaller trophies. I don’t think any manager looks back on their MOTY awards if they actually won trophies that season.
He's a Killie supporter. Nope, he's a Tim.
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I want to see Celtic treated like every other club. I want our matches to be officiated fairly, I want our club to be treated with respect by the media and I want our achievements given due credit. The reason those conditions don't prevail is not because we a 'Big Club', or that we have succeeded through some manner of skullduggery: we are singled out because of our heritage and history. Scotland's Shame is it's centuries old antipathy towards Ireland/Catholicism, and pathetic little gestures like denying Brendan Rogers the acclaim he deserves is another manifestation of that antipathy.
Isn’t Stevie Clarke a Celtic man though? Wouldn’t mind if he won it, although obviously Brendan would deserve it should he get the treble. In a league with as little prospect for success for most teams have, I do think you need to be a little more sharing with the smaller trophies. I don’t think any manager looks back on their MOTY awards if they actually won trophies that season. There have been 31 SFWA Manager of the Year awards since 1986/87. In that time only Celtic (14) and Rangers (17) have won the league.
In that time Huns managers have won it 11 times. Celtic managers have won it 10 times. Nine other clubs have had managers who won it once each, and it 1990 is was given to Andy Roxburgh.
Five Treble years in that time, with all managers winning MoTY that year. Albeit the awards would all have been dished out well before any Treble would have been known about, maybe even a few league titles.
Jim McLean got the first, in a season when his team got to UEFA Cup Final and Scottish Cup Final, losing both, and finished a strong third in the league in a 44 game league season. The more you think about that, it is an absolutely phenomenal tale of endurance and heartbreak for what would have been such a small squad. That year the Huns won the league for the first time in years under Souness.
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