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20 Mar 2018, 10:39 AM
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Both Rob MacLean and Chick have said that Stevie Clarke should win the manager of the year even if Brendan wins back to back trebles.
Which is proof positive that a Scottish football pundit can say literally anything and get away with it.
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20 Mar 2018, 10:49 AM
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Rob Maclean says Clarke for manager of the year this year on BBC site/column...same Mackean that said after 2 games Dorrans should be in Scotland squad back in Sept/October.
Clarke had done well in what 4/5 months at Killie but ffs Brendan ready to do a first ever in Scottish football double treble......whilst losing 2 domestic games all season so far.
I think Clarke deserves it up to now.
It's been a great five months but to qualify as manager of the year it makes sense that you'd at least have to have been in the job for a season. If Rodgers wins a double treble and doesn't win manager of the year it would be an absolute joke. If we win a treble, would this season be considered more or less successful than last season? Less points, but European progression...
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20 Mar 2018, 10:50 AM
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Both Rob MacLean and Chick have said that Stevie Clarke should win the manager of the year even if Brendan wins back to back trebles.
Which is proof positive that a Scottish football pundit can say literally anything and get away with it. How do you mean "get away with it"?
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20 Mar 2018, 10:50 AM
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Both Rob MacLean and Chick have said that Stevie Clarke should win the manager of the year even if Brendan wins back to back trebles.
Which is proof positive that a Scottish football pundit can say literally anything and get away with it. About 6 weeks back their narrative was he had only been here a few months and couldnt be considered for the Scotland job....that was,of course, when The Cardigan was being pushed for the job
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20 Mar 2018, 10:51 AM
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They had rarely had any problem giving the award to the Cardigan and Advocaat when they were winning with, by a mile, the biggest budgets in Scottish football.
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20 Mar 2018, 10:53 AM
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Do folk actually care much about this?
I don't but can't speak for others. I think since we've been dominating the press have been desperate not to give it to a Celtic manager, Lennon never got it yet McGlynn, Adams, Alan Johnston and McInnes did, Delia deserved it for his first season but John Hughes got it. If Brendan wins the treble again and doesn't win it then it just makes a farce of the whole thing.
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20 Mar 2018, 10:55 AM
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Both Rob MacLean and Chick have said that Stevie Clarke should win the manager of the year even if Brendan wins back to back trebles.
Which is proof positive that a Scottish football pundit can say literally anything and get away with it. Just read that, nice bit of free advertising at the bottom as usual.
Spoiler: click to toggle AS a dyed-in-the-wool Rangers supporter, former Ibrox midfielder Bob Malcolm is sick to the back teeth of watching Celtic picking up silverware, and he is desperately hoping the Light Blues can not only halt Celtic’s march towards 10-in-a-row, but stop them lifting back-to-back trebles.
Rangers suffered their second defeat in a week at home to Kilmarnock on Saturday after the gut-wrenching loss to Celtic last weekend, and Malcolm believes they have to regather their momentum as quickly as possible with the Scottish Cup semi-final looming.
Malcolm thinks that the Rangers team owe their supporters a big performance on the day to throw a spoke in the wheels of the Celtic juggernaut.
“They have to get back on track, and they have to be prepared to mount a title challenge next season,” said Malcolm.
“The talk is inevitably turning now to Celtic getting 10-in-a-row, and the club has to do everything in its power to make sure that doesn’t happen. First things first, they need to stop the back-to-back treble. They have to do it for their club and for the fans. It would signify some sort of progress, and would give the club something to carry into next season.”
Despite the wobble of the last week, Malcolm believes that Rangers should stick with Graeme Murty as manager for next season, with continuity key to hitting the ground running and mounting some sort of a tilt at the title.
“I would stick with Graeme,” he said. “There have been a few disappointing results, especially at home, but that’s just where we are right now.
“He has definitely improved things, and he should be given the chance to take that on. If another manager comes in, he will likely want to bring his own players, and will it be feasible to bed in another new set of players in time to challenge Celtic for the league?
“It’s up to the board of course, but if Graeme can get second in the league and knock Celtic out of the cup then he will give himself a great chance.”
Malcolm will join former teammates and some of his former heroes as they pull the boots on for the Rangers Legends game at Ibrox this Saturday, with proceeds being split between the Rangers Charity Foundation and the Rangers Youth Development Company.
It will be a chance for supporters to see some of the big names of old, and Malcolm admits he may be a little starstruck himself getting to play alongside guys whose boots he used to clean.
“I can always remember my dad taking me to training and us getting autographs, and then the next thing I knew I was in training with them,” he said.
“You learn so much from these guys, but it’s changed days now. Back in that day, you came in and you had to earn their respect. They taught you the values of the club, and kids now get the trappings much quicker than we ever did. They don’t really know what it was like to go through something like that.
“I cleaned 15 pairs of boots every day for the likes of Andy Goram, Richard Gough, Gazza and big Jorg Albertz; it wasn’t too bad a squad in those days. There was pressure on you, and it was a pain the backside before matches because the team used to travel to hotels the day before away games and you had to pack the hamper.
“You would get awkward guys like Durranty who wanted their Adidas boots tippexed before every game, and then you would find out that he didn’t even wear them. But that was their way of making sure you knew that you had to do what they told you.
“I’ve only got half a shin and no ankle now, and it’s the same now for most of the boys. Although I saw big Jig (Lee McCulloch) the other day and he looked as though he could still play. Unfortunately, it was Jig’s touch that let him down!
“It will be good to get back with all the guys, and on a personal note for me it will be great to play with people that I grew up looking up to, like Ally McCoist. Getting on the park and playing beside them will be something special for me.”
*The Legends Return, Saturday 24 March, 3pm, Ibrox Stadium. Tickets are priced at £12 for adults, £8 for concessions and £6 for juveniles.
A family package is also available for two adults and two children for £32.
Tickets can be bought online at rangers.co.uk, by visiting the Rangers Ticket Centre, or calling 0871 702 1972
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20 Mar 2018, 11:03 AM
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Both Rob MacLean and Chick have said that Stevie Clarke should win the manager of the year even if Brendan wins back to back trebles.
Which is proof positive that a Scottish football pundit can say literally anything and get away with it.
Just read that, nice bit of free advertising at the bottom as usual. Spoiler: click to toggle AS a dyed-in-the-wool Rangers supporter, former Ibrox midfielder Bob Malcolm is sick to the back teeth of watching Celtic picking up silverware, and he is desperately hoping the Light Blues can not only halt Celtic’s march towards 10-in-a-row, but stop them lifting back-to-back trebles.
Rangers suffered their second defeat in a week at home to Kilmarnock on Saturday after the gut-wrenching loss to Celtic last weekend, and Malcolm believes they have to regather their momentum as quickly as possible with the Scottish Cup semi-final looming.
Malcolm thinks that the Rangers team owe their supporters a big performance on the day to throw a spoke in the wheels of the Celtic juggernaut.
“They have to get back on track, and they have to be prepared to mount a title challenge next season,” said Malcolm.
“The talk is inevitably turning now to Celtic getting 10-in-a-row, and the club has to do everything in its power to make sure that doesn’t happen. First things first, they need to stop the back-to-back treble. They have to do it for their club and for the fans. It would signify some sort of progress, and would give the club something to carry into next season.”
Despite the wobble of the last week, Malcolm believes that Rangers should stick with Graeme Murty as manager for next season, with continuity key to hitting the ground running and mounting some sort of a tilt at the title.
“I would stick with Graeme,” he said. “There have been a few disappointing results, especially at home, but that’s just where we are right now.
“He has definitely improved things, and he should be given the chance to take that on. If another manager comes in, he will likely want to bring his own players, and will it be feasible to bed in another new set of players in time to challenge Celtic for the league?
“It’s up to the board of course, but if Graeme can get second in the league and knock Celtic out of the cup then he will give himself a great chance.”
Malcolm will join former teammates and some of his former heroes as they pull the boots on for the Rangers Legends game at Ibrox this Saturday, with proceeds being split between the Rangers Charity Foundation and the Rangers Youth Development Company.
It will be a chance for supporters to see some of the big names of old, and Malcolm admits he may be a little starstruck himself getting to play alongside guys whose boots he used to clean.
“I can always remember my dad taking me to training and us getting autographs, and then the next thing I knew I was in training with them,” he said.
“You learn so much from these guys, but it’s changed days now. Back in that day, you came in and you had to earn their respect. They taught you the values of the club, and kids now get the trappings much quicker than we ever did. They don’t really know what it was like to go through something like that.
“I cleaned 15 pairs of boots every day for the likes of Andy Goram, Richard Gough, Gazza and big Jorg Albertz; it wasn’t too bad a squad in those days. There was pressure on you, and it was a pain the backside before matches because the team used to travel to hotels the day before away games and you had to pack the hamper.
“You would get awkward guys like Durranty who wanted their Adidas boots tippexed before every game, and then you would find out that he didn’t even wear them. But that was their way of making sure you knew that you had to do what they told you.
“I’ve only got half a shin and no ankle now, and it’s the same now for most of the boys. Although I saw big Jig (Lee McCulloch) the other day and he looked as though he could still play. Unfortunately, it was Jig’s touch that let him down!
“It will be good to get back with all the guys, and on a personal note for me it will be great to play with people that I grew up looking up to, like Ally McCoist. Getting on the park and playing beside them will be something special for me.”
*The Legends Return, Saturday 24 March, 3pm, Ibrox Stadium. Tickets are priced at £12 for adults, £8 for concessions and £6 for juveniles.
A family package is also available for two adults and two children for £32.
Tickets can be bought online at rangers.co.uk, by visiting the Rangers Ticket Centre, or calling 0871 702 1972
Wtf do you learn from tippexing Durrant’s boots? These peepil are certainly different
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20 Mar 2018, 11:16 AM
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And that's the way we like it...
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It's been a great five months but to qualify as manager of the year it makes sense that you'd at least have to have been in the job for a season. If Rodgers wins a double treble and doesn't win manager of the year it would be an absolute joke.
Do folk actually care much about this? I want to see Celtic treated like every other club. I want our matches to be officiated fairly, I want our club to be treated with respect by the media and I want our achievements given due credit. The reason those conditions don't prevail is not because we a 'Big Club', or that we have succeeded through some manner of skullduggery: we are singled out because of our heritage and history. Scotland's Shame is it's centuries old antipathy towards Ireland/Catholicism, and pathetic little gestures like denying Brendan Rogers the acclaim he deserves is another manifestation of that antipathy.
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20 Mar 2018, 11:18 AM
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Do folk actually care much about this?
I want to see Celtic treated like every other club. I want our matches to be officiated fairly, I want our club to be treated with respect by the media and I want our achievements given due credit. The reason those conditions don't prevail is not because we a 'Big Club', or that we have succeeded through some manner of skullduggery: we are singled out because of our heritage and history. Scotland's Shame is it's centuries old antipathy towards Ireland/Catholicism, and pathetic little gestures like denying Brendan Rogers the acclaim he deserves is another manifestation of that antipathy. I’ll take that as a yes.
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20 Mar 2018, 11:20 AM
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It's been a great five months but to qualify as manager of the year it makes sense that you'd at least have to have been in the job for a season. If Rodgers wins a double treble and doesn't win manager of the year it would be an absolute joke.
Do folk actually care much about this? Most of the time no, but a double treble would be unparalleled. I'd like to see our manager recognised for that.
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20 Mar 2018, 11:46 AM
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The change in Killie has be exceptional, where as our performance level has went backwards if we are being brutally honest about it.
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20 Mar 2018, 11:47 AM
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Do folk actually care much about this?
Most of the time no, but a double treble would be unparalleled. I'd like to see our manager recognised for that. He will be recognised for that if it happens, regardless of who wins manager of the year.
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Both Rob MacLean and Chick have said that Stevie Clarke should win the manager of the year even if Brendan wins back to back trebles.
Which is proof positive that a Scottish football pundit can say literally anything and get away with it.
Just read that, nice bit of free advertising at the bottom as usual. Spoiler: click to toggle AS a dyed-in-the-wool Rangers supporter, former Ibrox midfielder Bob Malcolm is sick to the back teeth of watching Celtic picking up silverware, and he is desperately hoping the Light Blues can not only halt Celtic’s march towards 10-in-a-row, but stop them lifting back-to-back trebles.
Rangers suffered their second defeat in a week at home to Kilmarnock on Saturday after the gut-wrenching loss to Celtic last weekend, and Malcolm believes they have to regather their momentum as quickly as possible with the Scottish Cup semi-final looming.
Malcolm thinks that the Rangers team owe their supporters a big performance on the day to throw a spoke in the wheels of the Celtic juggernaut.
“They have to get back on track, and they have to be prepared to mount a title challenge next season,” said Malcolm.
“The talk is inevitably turning now to Celtic getting 10-in-a-row, and the club has to do everything in its power to make sure that doesn’t happen. First things first, they need to stop the back-to-back treble. They have to do it for their club and for the fans. It would signify some sort of progress, and would give the club something to carry into next season.”
Despite the wobble of the last week, Malcolm believes that Rangers should stick with Graeme Murty as manager for next season, with continuity key to hitting the ground running and mounting some sort of a tilt at the title.
“I would stick with Graeme,” he said. “There have been a few disappointing results, especially at home, but that’s just where we are right now.
“He has definitely improved things, and he should be given the chance to take that on. If another manager comes in, he will likely want to bring his own players, and will it be feasible to bed in another new set of players in time to challenge Celtic for the league?
“It’s up to the board of course, but if Graeme can get second in the league and knock Celtic out of the cup then he will give himself a great chance.”
Malcolm will join former teammates and some of his former heroes as they pull the boots on for the Rangers Legends game at Ibrox this Saturday, with proceeds being split between the Rangers Charity Foundation and the Rangers Youth Development Company.
It will be a chance for supporters to see some of the big names of old, and Malcolm admits he may be a little starstruck himself getting to play alongside guys whose boots he used to clean.
“I can always remember my dad taking me to training and us getting autographs, and then the next thing I knew I was in training with them,” he said.
“You learn so much from these guys, but it’s changed days now. Back in that day, you came in and you had to earn their respect. They taught you the values of the club, and kids now get the trappings much quicker than we ever did. They don’t really know what it was like to go through something like that.
“I cleaned 15 pairs of boots every day for the likes of Andy Goram, Richard Gough, Gazza and big Jorg Albertz; it wasn’t too bad a squad in those days. There was pressure on you, and it was a pain the backside before matches because the team used to travel to hotels the day before away games and you had to pack the hamper.
“You would get awkward guys like Durranty who wanted their Adidas boots tippexed before every game, and then you would find out that he didn’t even wear them. But that was their way of making sure you knew that you had to do what they told you.
“I’ve only got half a shin and no ankle now, and it’s the same now for most of the boys. Although I saw big Jig (Lee McCulloch) the other day and he looked as though he could still play. Unfortunately, it was Jig’s touch that let him down!
“It will be good to get back with all the guys, and on a personal note for me it will be great to play with people that I grew up looking up to, like Ally McCoist. Getting on the park and playing beside them will be something special for me.”
*The Legends Return, Saturday 24 March, 3pm, Ibrox Stadium. Tickets are priced at £12 for adults, £8 for concessions and £6 for juveniles.
A family package is also available for two adults and two children for £32.
Tickets can be bought online at rangers.co.uk, by visiting the Rangers Ticket Centre, or calling 0871 702 1972
 Wtf do you learn from tippexing Durrant’s boots? These peepil are certainly different Images of a studiously concentrating Malcolm scrawling 'Bob was hear' and 'FTP' on to Durrant's boots, it was little wonder he couldn't wear them.
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The change in Killie has be exceptional, where as our performance level has went backwards if we are being brutally honest about it.
Performance level's are neither here nor there to be fair.
Brendan has practically secured 5 trophies in a row. That's the crux of it.
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They had rarely had any problem giving the award to the Cardigan and Advocaat when they were winning with, by a mile, the biggest budgets in Scottish football. Well this is it...
Maclean in his Beeb column spouts some utter pish (as most scottish journalists do - majority of time). As I pointed out in original post he wanted Dorrans in Scotland team after 2 games then whadda you know he falls of a cliff performance wise and eventually got injured.
Advocaat and Sir Walter of Brown Brogues were pushed constantly for MOY after their massive budgets against all other including us. Clarke has a good few months..not year thats is goo months and groans now that he should get it over a treble chasing gaffer. Doesnt make sense..mind you Scottish media to me rarely have in 30 odd years.
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The change in Killie has be exceptional, where as our performance level has went backwards if we are being brutally honest about it.
Performance level's are neither here nor there to be fair. Brendan has practically secured 5 trophies in a row. That's the crux of it. bottom line and going for 6 in 6.
MOY in waiting.
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20 Mar 2018, 12:01 PM
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Most of the time no, but a double treble would be unparalleled. I'd like to see our manager recognised for that.
He will be recognised for that if it happens, regardless of who wins manager of the year. Recognised by who though? If someone else wins they're effectively saying his achievement is lesser.
It's all hypothetical at the moment anyway.
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It's been a great five months but to qualify as manager of the year it makes sense that you'd at least have to have been in the job for a season. If Rodgers wins a double treble and doesn't win manager of the year it would be an absolute joke.
If we win a treble, would this season be considered more or less successful than last season? Less points, but European progression... In terms of our overall aims, definitely better. In terms of entertainment, nowhere near as good.
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I don't but can't speak for others.
I think since we've been dominating the press have been desperate not to give it to a Celtic manager, Lennon never got it yet McGlynn, Adams, Alan Johnston and McInnes did, Delia deserved it for his first season but John Hughes got it. If Brendan wins the treble again and doesn't win it then it just makes a farce of the whole thing. I think Hughes did deserve it over deila tbh. To win the Scottish cup, finish third in the spl and qualify for Europe with a team like ict is fantastic.
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