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wigwam
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17 Mar 2018, 11:08 AM
Sutton on Boyata: "Nearly a week on and I still don’t know what he was doing against Rangers. It wasn’t just a poor display - it was delusional".

Rangers had all the luck going as Celtic and Boyata gifted them the chance of a win, but they fluffed it - Sutton
Our columnist takes issue with Barry Ferguson who reckoned the Hoops were fortunate in Sunday's dramatic win.
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He knows exactly how to push their buttons. :lol:
The remark about not having a Broony will particularly hurt. :)
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hun has no religious connotations, so how can it be classed as sectarian? I've always believed it was used to describe the rangers fans who rampaged through Europe in the 70's and the term stuck - am I making this up? Was the word used to describe them before this?
My B-I-L is an ex-ST at ibrox, my sons refer to him as a big hun because of this, he doesn't appear to have any issue with this (my sons are COS prods, are they huns as well?).
I've been trying to have a discussion with James Dornan about sectarianism - he insists that Celtic fans sing sectarian songs, I've asked him to name them.
I've also asked him again, as I have other elected members, what they are doing about the orange order and why nobody in government will take a stance against them. And why in this day and age of cuts, do councils have to use money to police / marshall the walks when there are plenty of better projects that the money could be used for.
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You wonder what all these cants would be saying back in the 70's when their favourite club refused to employ, at any level, Catholics
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Sevco have a ten million pound player on their bench today, pretty impressive.
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Matthew Lindsay: Scottish football must still Act to stamp out the scourge of sectarianism
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There's nothing sectarian about the word 'hun.'

And I don't think many Celtic fans mind being called 'fenian.' Many will take it as a badge of honour!
I think you're right there. Many will. It's all about context.

If Celtic fans are going to chant about being in a 'Fenian army' then the huns can quite easily argue that no one is likely to take offence at a poster talking about their 'match against the Fenians'. I actually thought the initial poster said 'march against the Fenians' so either they changed it or I read it wrong.

They could probably also argue that their banner with a Celtic fan getting kicked in the head is no more or less offensive than effigies/dolls/whatever being hung from the stand.

But add in their balaclavas and 'red hand salutes' and their general poison and racism. In that context, I don't like them.

If they're offended by the word hun, that's up to them. It's not sectarian though, no matter how hard they go on about it.

I've had a few huns call me a Fenian, thanking them and saying "proud of it, hun" seems to get them a tad upset.
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justinjest
17 Mar 2018, 02:45 PM
hun has no religious connotations, so how can it be classed as sectarian? I've always believed it was used to describe the rangers fans who rampaged through Europe in the 70's and the term stuck - am I making this up? Was the word used to describe them before this?
My B-I-L is an ex-ST at ibrox, my sons refer to him as a big hun because of this, he doesn't appear to have any issue with this (my sons are COS prods, are they huns as well?).
I've been trying to have a discussion with James Dornan about sectarianism - he insists that Celtic fans sing sectarian songs, I've asked him to name them.
I've also asked him again, as I have other elected members, what they are doing about the orange order and why nobody in government will take a stance against them. And why in this day and age of cuts, do councils have to use money to police / marshall the walks when there are plenty of better projects that the money could be used for.
the word Hun is in no way sectarian . Fans of every club in Scotland refer to them as " the Huns" , yet the demographics of Scotland would suggest that most clubs with the exception of Celtic and possibly Hibs have a majority Protestant fan base. Celtic in my experience also have a sizeable Protestant support ,and the ones i know also refer to them as " the Huns" so how can it be classed as sectarian ?? It's nonsense
Edited by richiebhoy1888, 17 Mar 2018, 09:15 PM.
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17 Mar 2018, 09:14 PM
justinjest
17 Mar 2018, 02:45 PM
hun has no religious connotations, so how can it be classed as sectarian? I've always believed it was used to describe the rangers fans who rampaged through Europe in the 70's and the term stuck - am I making this up? Was the word used to describe them before this?
My B-I-L is an ex-ST at ibrox, my sons refer to him as a big hun because of this, he doesn't appear to have any issue with this (my sons are COS prods, are they huns as well?).
I've been trying to have a discussion with James Dornan about sectarianism - he insists that Celtic fans sing sectarian songs, I've asked him to name them.
I've also asked him again, as I have other elected members, what they are doing about the orange order and why nobody in government will take a stance against them. And why in this day and age of cuts, do councils have to use money to police / marshall the walks when there are plenty of better projects that the money could be used for.
the word Hun is in no way sectarian . Fans of every club in Scotland refer to them as " the Huns" , yet the demographics of Scotland would suggest that most clubs with the exception of Celtic and possibly Hibs have a majority Protestant fan base. Celtic in my experience also have a sizeable Protestant support ,and the ones i know also refer to them as " the Huns" so how can it be classed as sectarian ?? It's nonsense
They've used it to describe us in the past, probably because we left the floodlights on at CP for the luftwaffe FACT. It appears in a few loyalist songs too, I think one even mentions fenian huns. It's pathetic of the huns and their lapdogs in the press to try and attach it to sectarian behaviour. Jock Stein-Protestant, Neil McCann-Hun, it's really that simple, religion has never come into it.
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If he can't talk about at this time, why talk about it?

TOO SOON Former Celtic star Emilio Izaguirre says agents unsettled him and his family as he reveals it’s still ‘really hard’ to talk about Hoops exit
The Honduran defender became a fans' favourite during seven trophy-laden years at Parkhead but decided to make the move to Saudi Arabia last summer
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I see Kevin McKenna is at it again. :nono:
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justinjest
17 Mar 2018, 02:45 PM
hun has no religious connotations, so how can it be classed as sectarian? I've always believed it was used to describe the rangers fans who rampaged through Europe in the 70's and the term stuck - am I making this up? Was the word used to describe them before this?
My B-I-L is an ex-ST at ibrox, my sons refer to him as a big hun because of this, he doesn't appear to have any issue with this (my sons are COS prods, are they huns as well?).
I've been trying to have a discussion with James Dornan about sectarianism - he insists that Celtic fans sing sectarian songs, I've asked him to name them.
I've also asked him again, as I have other elected members, what they are doing about the orange order and why nobody in government will take a stance against them. And why in this day and age of cuts, do councils have to use money to police / marshall the walks when there are plenty of better projects that the money could be used for.
As I recall an English newspaper originally called them huns after a riot (might have been at the end of a friendly with Aston Villa?). Anyway, the paper described their continental ventures as stomping across Europe, "like a pack of marauding huns".

I'm sure someone will have the original article.
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As long as the current board remain in charge at Ibrox we'll be alright.
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18 Mar 2018, 08:24 AM
I see Kevin McKenna is at it again. :nono:
Feel free to share it with us
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With a host of the SFA’s sponsorships and commercial deals lapsed, and no TV deal in place for the Scottish Cup next season, the clubs want major change at Hampden.
That' because they are too busy looking after themselves than to worry about the good of the game.

SPFL clubs at war as Hibs look to block Neil Doncaster's SFA appointment
Only four clubs backed the rebellion and SPFL chairman Murdoch MacLennan sent clubs an email revealing the bid to stop Doncaster voting.
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17 Mar 2018, 11:24 AM
Gothamcelt
17 Mar 2018, 11:08 AM
Sutton on Boyata: "Nearly a week on and I still don’t know what he was doing against Rangers. It wasn’t just a poor display - it was delusional".

Rangers had all the luck going as Celtic and Boyata gifted them the chance of a win, but they fluffed it - Sutton
Our columnist takes issue with Barry Ferguson who reckoned the Hoops were fortunate in Sunday's dramatic win.
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I don't always like Sutton's articles but that's spot on. I watched the game back the day after and Boyata was actually worse than I originally thought.
"For goodness sake play safe. It’s Ibrox, the place is rocking, they’ve been talking themselves up, the last thing you do is give them any encouragement.
Boyata did the complete opposite but the shocking thing was that it wasn’t entirely surprising, because he’s got it in him at any time. Everyone makes mistakes but he should be maturing as a player. He’s not a kid any more, he’s 26-years-old"

Spot on.
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18 Mar 2018, 10:41 AM
screwtop
18 Mar 2018, 08:24 AM
I see Kevin McKenna is at it again. :nono:
Feel free to share it with us
Here it is :thumbsup:
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I always thought that "Huns" came from likening them to the Germans in WW2 and their master race BS, seeing themselves as above everyone else in the arrogant way Rangers do. I know a lot of Dundee/Dundee Utd fans who refer to them as the Huns although most now probably refer to them as the zombies. Lost count of the number of times people have said to me they don't like Celtic, but they absolutely detest Rangers and I think it has nothing to do with religion. I don't think Huns is sectarian, it is not a reference to religion just more a description of them and their attitude towards others.
I would also say that a good deal of the people I know that support the two Dundee teams dislike Rangers a lot more than I do and took great pleasure in their meltdown circa 2012. Back in the day Dundee could probably be described as Diet Huns along with Hearts but not nowadays. Hearts and Rangers used to be quite pally but again, not these days, although I doubt Hearts fan call them Huns. One of my mates, Dundee Utd fan, turned up to fives one week with a Rangers shirt on, only to turn round and reveal "Liquid" and a number 8 on the back. Brilliant. The two Rangers fans present didn't share the amusement of others, but again, the Dundee/Dundee Utd fans there laughed the loudest, more so than me and the other Celtic fan there.
He actually said he bought in JJB or Sports Direct as they were selling the shirts off cheap and the lettering and the number actually cost more than the shirt itself :lol:
As others have said, it is quite amusing the amount of times I have been called a "Fenian" and the person doing it thinks they are insulting me as they are a little bit ignorant. Quite amusing in a way. I often tell them to check the meaning of it and then try and come up with something that is actually an insult next time.
The level of ignorance regarding Celtic at times is eye opening, have had people ranting at me and calling Fields of Athenry an "IRA song" and even more laughable a few have said the same of "that Soldiers Are We song". What do you say to that....
Edited by AG67, 18 Mar 2018, 11:23 AM.
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no gordon parks column in this weeks Sunday Mail......
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18 Mar 2018, 11:09 AM
no gordon parks column in this weeks Sunday Mail......
Pen, belt and shoelaces confiscated?
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18 Mar 2018, 11:00 AM
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18 Mar 2018, 10:41 AM
screwtop
18 Mar 2018, 08:24 AM
I see Kevin McKenna is at it again. :nono:
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Here it is :thumbsup:
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Don’t see anything wrong with that
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