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16 Mar 2018, 08:47 AM
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....give us a glimmer......
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"Rodgers got lucky again when Jozo Simunovic was sent off because, for as long as the game was 11 v 11, Rangers were the better side."
No they weren't ya hurting wee fud.
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16 Mar 2018, 08:51 AM
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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This is wonderful  We were just lucky on Sunday because if all the things that happened hadn't happened, we'd have lost. Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers is no managerial mastermind and got lucky against Rangers - Barry FergusonBarry isn't convinced last Sunday's 3-2 win was a masterclass from Rodgers everything ran for him. Spoiler: click to toggle Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.
Take last Sunday. A day when Celtic’s manager should have walked straight out of Ibrox along Paisley Road West and into the casino at Springfield Quay to stick a year’s wages on black.
Because absolutely everything was coming up for Brendan Rodgers.
So please, leave me out of this theory that Graeme Murty was being schooled by some sort of managerial mastermind as Rangerslost to 10 men.
That has been the talk amongst a lot of fans who are using this latest derby defeat as proof that Murty is in way over his head his against Rodgers and not up to the job of taking my old club back to the top.
Excuse me, but what have these people been watching? If they can’t see the strides Rangers have made in a very short space of time under Murty then they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
And to use last Sunday as a stick to hit him over the head with is just a massive over-reaction to another painful result. I sympathise because I’m hurting too. I’ve been a Rangers man long enough to know winning means everything, especially on derby day.
But I’ve watched the game again and keep coming back to the same conclusion – the only real difference between Celtic and Rangers on the day was a massive slice of good fortune.
Yes, Rodgers has taken all the plaudits because of the decisions he made in the second half. And who am I to disagree?
I take my hat off to the guy because, as a manager, he is different class.
When he made the call to take off James Forrest and replace him with a striker, with his side down to 10 men and the game balanced at 2-2, it was incredibly brave and bold management.
But what happened next was also incredibly lucky and he’s fortunate it all went his way because had Rangers won 3-2 it would have been him and not Murty who has spent the last week under fire.
Why did he start with Dedryck Boyata and a back three when this was always going to be the most vulnerable part of his team?
Why then change a midfielder for a striker with the game in the balance?
Rodgers would have had to find answers to some seriously difficult questions but he was spared from that because the gods were smiling on him. Had Sean Goss showed Odsonne Edouard down the outside – as he should have done – then the Celtic sub would have been unlikely to score the winning goal two minutes after coming on to the pitch.
That wasn’t down to Rodgers being a genius, that was down to sheer luck.
Long before that Rangers could have had the game wrapped up when they were by far the superior side.
Had they taken one of their chances to make it 3-1 in the first half then I’m pretty sure Celtic would not have come back from it.
They got another break early in the game when Goss was too inexperienced to realise he had to take one for the team when the ball broke to Tom Rogic seconds before the Australian curled home Celtic’s first goal. Goss should have cleaned him out before he had a chance to line up his shot.
Celtic got lucky again when David Bates had to be carried off right after the Rogic equaliser because the youngster has been Rangers best defender for some time now
I am absolutely certain Bates would not have got on the wrong side of Moussa Dembele seconds before half time the way his replacement Fabio Cardoso did – allowing Celtic to end the half on a huge high.
There was another massive moment at the end of the second half when Alfredo Morelos missed an open goal from two yards out. On any other day he scores to level it up.
I would even go as far as to say Rodgers got lucky again when Jozo Simunovic was sent off because, for as long as the game was 11 v 11, Rangers were the better side.
It was only after that moment Celtic really got to grips with the game and I know from experience how a match can change when one side goes down to 10 men. The decision gave Celtic a shot in the arm and created a siege mentality.
Rangers didn’t react well to it at all.
That was frustrating to watch because they should have been moving the ball quicker and using the whole of the pitch to tire their opponents and open Celtic up. That they failed to do that was another sign of inexperience and, yes, Murty has to take his share of the blame.
But he will learn from it and so will his players.
I agreed with every word he said after the game and I’m a bit surprised that he has retracted some of it. He wasn’t too harsh at all.
Yes, all three of Celtic’s goals could have been avoided. Yes, Rangers could and should have played better after Celtic went down to 10 men.
And yes, these players might just have missed the best ever chance to get one over on their old rivals.
Murty was right on all points but that doesn’t mean that Rangers won’t recover and become stronger for it.
What I see is a work in progress both on the pitch and in the technical area. These are inexperienced players working for an inexperienced manager.
But where Rangers are now compared to where they were under Pedro Caixinha is night and day.
The manager and his players now need to regroup and bounce back quickly. By the time they head to Hampden to face Celtic in the Scottish Cup semi-final on April 15 their tails should be up again.
They should look back on Sunday and learn their lessons.
But most of all, they should realise how far they have come together and how far the gap has been closed.
What I saw was a Rangers side which no longer lives in fear of Celtic. I described the fixture as a boxing match and Sunday showed me Rangers are now confident enough to go toe-to-toe with their old rivals for the first time in a long time.
The fact they were so disappointed on Sunday tells me this is a group of players who will be bursting a gut to put it right at Hampden.
Murty is no longer setting his players up just to survive against Celtic. He’s setting them up to beat them. Next time, with a bit of luck on his side, that’s exactly what might happen.
And that, kids, is why you should never do drugs.
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16 Mar 2018, 08:59 AM
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- 16 Mar 2018, 07:55 AM
This is wonderful  We were just lucky on Sunday because if all the things that happened hadn't happened, we'd have lost. Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers is no managerial mastermind and got lucky against Rangers - Barry FergusonBarry isn't convinced last Sunday's 3-2 win was a masterclass from Rodgers everything ran for him. Spoiler: click to toggle Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.
Take last Sunday. A day when Celtic’s manager should have walked straight out of Ibrox along Paisley Road West and into the casino at Springfield Quay to stick a year’s wages on black.
Because absolutely everything was coming up for Brendan Rodgers.
So please, leave me out of this theory that Graeme Murty was being schooled by some sort of managerial mastermind as Rangerslost to 10 men.
That has been the talk amongst a lot of fans who are using this latest derby defeat as proof that Murty is in way over his head his against Rodgers and not up to the job of taking my old club back to the top.
Excuse me, but what have these people been watching? If they can’t see the strides Rangers have made in a very short space of time under Murty then they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
And to use last Sunday as a stick to hit him over the head with is just a massive over-reaction to another painful result. I sympathise because I’m hurting too. I’ve been a Rangers man long enough to know winning means everything, especially on derby day.
But I’ve watched the game again and keep coming back to the same conclusion – the only real difference between Celtic and Rangers on the day was a massive slice of good fortune.
Yes, Rodgers has taken all the plaudits because of the decisions he made in the second half. And who am I to disagree?
I take my hat off to the guy because, as a manager, he is different class.
When he made the call to take off James Forrest and replace him with a striker, with his side down to 10 men and the game balanced at 2-2, it was incredibly brave and bold management.
But what happened next was also incredibly lucky and he’s fortunate it all went his way because had Rangers won 3-2 it would have been him and not Murty who has spent the last week under fire.
Why did he start with Dedryck Boyata and a back three when this was always going to be the most vulnerable part of his team?
Why then change a midfielder for a striker with the game in the balance?
Rodgers would have had to find answers to some seriously difficult questions but he was spared from that because the gods were smiling on him. Had Sean Goss showed Odsonne Edouard down the outside – as he should have done – then the Celtic sub would have been unlikely to score the winning goal two minutes after coming on to the pitch.
That wasn’t down to Rodgers being a genius, that was down to sheer luck.
Long before that Rangers could have had the game wrapped up when they were by far the superior side.
Had they taken one of their chances to make it 3-1 in the first half then I’m pretty sure Celtic would not have come back from it.
They got another break early in the game when Goss was too inexperienced to realise he had to take one for the team when the ball broke to Tom Rogic seconds before the Australian curled home Celtic’s first goal. Goss should have cleaned him out before he had a chance to line up his shot.
Celtic got lucky again when David Bates had to be carried off right after the Rogic equaliser because the youngster has been Rangers best defender for some time now
I am absolutely certain Bates would not have got on the wrong side of Moussa Dembele seconds before half time the way his replacement Fabio Cardoso did – allowing Celtic to end the half on a huge high.
There was another massive moment at the end of the second half when Alfredo Morelos missed an open goal from two yards out. On any other day he scores to level it up.
I would even go as far as to say Rodgers got lucky again when Jozo Simunovic was sent off because, for as long as the game was 11 v 11, Rangers were the better side.
It was only after that moment Celtic really got to grips with the game and I know from experience how a match can change when one side goes down to 10 men. The decision gave Celtic a shot in the arm and created a siege mentality.
Rangers didn’t react well to it at all.
That was frustrating to watch because they should have been moving the ball quicker and using the whole of the pitch to tire their opponents and open Celtic up. That they failed to do that was another sign of inexperience and, yes, Murty has to take his share of the blame.
But he will learn from it and so will his players.
I agreed with every word he said after the game and I’m a bit surprised that he has retracted some of it. He wasn’t too harsh at all.
Yes, all three of Celtic’s goals could have been avoided. Yes, Rangers could and should have played better after Celtic went down to 10 men.
And yes, these players might just have missed the best ever chance to get one over on their old rivals.
Murty was right on all points but that doesn’t mean that Rangers won’t recover and become stronger for it.
What I see is a work in progress both on the pitch and in the technical area. These are inexperienced players working for an inexperienced manager.
But where Rangers are now compared to where they were under Pedro Caixinha is night and day.
The manager and his players now need to regroup and bounce back quickly. By the time they head to Hampden to face Celtic in the Scottish Cup semi-final on April 15 their tails should be up again.
They should look back on Sunday and learn their lessons.
But most of all, they should realise how far they have come together and how far the gap has been closed.
What I saw was a Rangers side which no longer lives in fear of Celtic. I described the fixture as a boxing match and Sunday showed me Rangers are now confident enough to go toe-to-toe with their old rivals for the first time in a long time.
The fact they were so disappointed on Sunday tells me this is a group of players who will be bursting a gut to put it right at Hampden.
Murty is no longer setting his players up just to survive against Celtic. He’s setting them up to beat them. Next time, with a bit of luck on his side, that’s exactly what might happen.
Absolute nonsense from that total and utter cretin,an article full of what ifs.you only need to look at the reactions of both managers when we went down to 10,Brendan was right on it altering the formation,while murty just looked bewildered.
The huns in the last 20 minutes were back to being rank rotten there was eff all luck about it.it ain't luck that Eduard scored the winner it was just that the hun defender was crap.
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16 Mar 2018, 09:02 AM
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- 16 Mar 2018, 08:07 AM
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- 16 Mar 2018, 07:55 AM
This is wonderful  We were just lucky on Sunday because if all the things that happened hadn't happened, we'd have lost. Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers is no managerial mastermind and got lucky against Rangers - Barry FergusonBarry isn't convinced last Sunday's 3-2 win was a masterclass from Rodgers everything ran for him. Spoiler: click to toggle Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.
Take last Sunday. A day when Celtic’s manager should have walked straight out of Ibrox along Paisley Road West and into the casino at Springfield Quay to stick a year’s wages on black.
Because absolutely everything was coming up for Brendan Rodgers.
So please, leave me out of this theory that Graeme Murty was being schooled by some sort of managerial mastermind as Rangerslost to 10 men.
That has been the talk amongst a lot of fans who are using this latest derby defeat as proof that Murty is in way over his head his against Rodgers and not up to the job of taking my old club back to the top.
Excuse me, but what have these people been watching? If they can’t see the strides Rangers have made in a very short space of time under Murty then they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
And to use last Sunday as a stick to hit him over the head with is just a massive over-reaction to another painful result. I sympathise because I’m hurting too. I’ve been a Rangers man long enough to know winning means everything, especially on derby day.
But I’ve watched the game again and keep coming back to the same conclusion – the only real difference between Celtic and Rangers on the day was a massive slice of good fortune.
Yes, Rodgers has taken all the plaudits because of the decisions he made in the second half. And who am I to disagree?
I take my hat off to the guy because, as a manager, he is different class.
When he made the call to take off James Forrest and replace him with a striker, with his side down to 10 men and the game balanced at 2-2, it was incredibly brave and bold management.
But what happened next was also incredibly lucky and he’s fortunate it all went his way because had Rangers won 3-2 it would have been him and not Murty who has spent the last week under fire.
Why did he start with Dedryck Boyata and a back three when this was always going to be the most vulnerable part of his team?
Why then change a midfielder for a striker with the game in the balance?
Rodgers would have had to find answers to some seriously difficult questions but he was spared from that because the gods were smiling on him. Had Sean Goss showed Odsonne Edouard down the outside – as he should have done – then the Celtic sub would have been unlikely to score the winning goal two minutes after coming on to the pitch.
That wasn’t down to Rodgers being a genius, that was down to sheer luck.
Long before that Rangers could have had the game wrapped up when they were by far the superior side.
Had they taken one of their chances to make it 3-1 in the first half then I’m pretty sure Celtic would not have come back from it.
They got another break early in the game when Goss was too inexperienced to realise he had to take one for the team when the ball broke to Tom Rogic seconds before the Australian curled home Celtic’s first goal. Goss should have cleaned him out before he had a chance to line up his shot.
Celtic got lucky again when David Bates had to be carried off right after the Rogic equaliser because the youngster has been Rangers best defender for some time now
I am absolutely certain Bates would not have got on the wrong side of Moussa Dembele seconds before half time the way his replacement Fabio Cardoso did – allowing Celtic to end the half on a huge high.
There was another massive moment at the end of the second half when Alfredo Morelos missed an open goal from two yards out. On any other day he scores to level it up.
I would even go as far as to say Rodgers got lucky again when Jozo Simunovic was sent off because, for as long as the game was 11 v 11, Rangers were the better side.
It was only after that moment Celtic really got to grips with the game and I know from experience how a match can change when one side goes down to 10 men. The decision gave Celtic a shot in the arm and created a siege mentality.
Rangers didn’t react well to it at all.
That was frustrating to watch because they should have been moving the ball quicker and using the whole of the pitch to tire their opponents and open Celtic up. That they failed to do that was another sign of inexperience and, yes, Murty has to take his share of the blame.
But he will learn from it and so will his players.
I agreed with every word he said after the game and I’m a bit surprised that he has retracted some of it. He wasn’t too harsh at all.
Yes, all three of Celtic’s goals could have been avoided. Yes, Rangers could and should have played better after Celtic went down to 10 men.
And yes, these players might just have missed the best ever chance to get one over on their old rivals.
Murty was right on all points but that doesn’t mean that Rangers won’t recover and become stronger for it.
What I see is a work in progress both on the pitch and in the technical area. These are inexperienced players working for an inexperienced manager.
But where Rangers are now compared to where they were under Pedro Caixinha is night and day.
The manager and his players now need to regroup and bounce back quickly. By the time they head to Hampden to face Celtic in the Scottish Cup semi-final on April 15 their tails should be up again.
They should look back on Sunday and learn their lessons.
But most of all, they should realise how far they have come together and how far the gap has been closed.
What I saw was a Rangers side which no longer lives in fear of Celtic. I described the fixture as a boxing match and Sunday showed me Rangers are now confident enough to go toe-to-toe with their old rivals for the first time in a long time.
The fact they were so disappointed on Sunday tells me this is a group of players who will be bursting a gut to put it right at Hampden.
Murty is no longer setting his players up just to survive against Celtic. He’s setting them up to beat them. Next time, with a bit of luck on his side, that’s exactly what might happen.
That’s fantastic reading Rodgers got lucky again when Jozo Simunovic was sent off because, for as long as the game was 11 v 11, Rangers were the better side. 
Timposter surely.
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16 Mar 2018, 09:12 AM
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So he "writes" an article about how Rodgers got lucky as opposed to any managerial competence, then uses this line
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I take my hat off to the guy because, as a manager, he is different class.
Arsehole
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16 Mar 2018, 09:15 AM
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Oh aye. I bet BR gives two effs about the Ali of the cornflake aisle 
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16 Mar 2018, 10:50 AM
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Barry likes to headbutt toilet doors which pretty much explains that article.
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16 Mar 2018, 10:52 AM
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That is a tremendous insight into the Level 5 mind.
"Rodgers would have had to find answers to some seriously difficult questions but he was spared from that because the gods were smiling on him. Had Sean Goss showed Odsonne Edouard down the outside – as he should have done – then the Celtic sub would have been unlikely to score the winning goal two minutes after coming on to the pitch.
That wasn’t down to Rodgers being a genius, that was down to sheer luck.
Long before that Rangers could have had the game wrapped up when they were by far the superior side.
Had they taken one of their chances to make it 3-1 in the first half then I’m pretty sure Celtic would not have come back from it.
They got another break early in the game when Goss was too inexperienced to realise he had to take one for the team when the ball broke to Tom Rogic seconds before the Australian curled home Celtic’s first goal. Goss should have cleaned him out before he had a chance to line up his shot.
Celtic got lucky again when David Bates had to be carried off right after the Rogic equaliser because the youngster has been Rangers best defender for some time now
I am absolutely certain Bates would not have got on the wrong side of Moussa Dembele seconds before half time the way his replacement Fabio Cardoso did – allowing Celtic to end the half on a huge high."
And if my auntie had a...
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16 Mar 2018, 10:58 AM
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16 Mar 2018, 11:02 AM
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- 16 Mar 2018, 07:55 AM
This is wonderful  We were just lucky on Sunday because if all the things that happened hadn't happened, we'd have lost. Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers is no managerial mastermind and got lucky against Rangers - Barry FergusonBarry isn't convinced last Sunday's 3-2 win was a masterclass from Rodgers everything ran for him. Spoiler: click to toggle Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.
Take last Sunday. A day when Celtic’s manager should have walked straight out of Ibrox along Paisley Road West and into the casino at Springfield Quay to stick a year’s wages on black.
Because absolutely everything was coming up for Brendan Rodgers.
So please, leave me out of this theory that Graeme Murty was being schooled by some sort of managerial mastermind as Rangerslost to 10 men.
That has been the talk amongst a lot of fans who are using this latest derby defeat as proof that Murty is in way over his head his against Rodgers and not up to the job of taking my old club back to the top.
Excuse me, but what have these people been watching? If they can’t see the strides Rangers have made in a very short space of time under Murty then they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
And to use last Sunday as a stick to hit him over the head with is just a massive over-reaction to another painful result. I sympathise because I’m hurting too. I’ve been a Rangers man long enough to know winning means everything, especially on derby day.
But I’ve watched the game again and keep coming back to the same conclusion – the only real difference between Celtic and Rangers on the day was a massive slice of good fortune.
Yes, Rodgers has taken all the plaudits because of the decisions he made in the second half. And who am I to disagree?
I take my hat off to the guy because, as a manager, he is different class.
When he made the call to take off James Forrest and replace him with a striker, with his side down to 10 men and the game balanced at 2-2, it was incredibly brave and bold management.
But what happened next was also incredibly lucky and he’s fortunate it all went his way because had Rangers won 3-2 it would have been him and not Murty who has spent the last week under fire.
Why did he start with Dedryck Boyata and a back three when this was always going to be the most vulnerable part of his team?
Why then change a midfielder for a striker with the game in the balance?
Rodgers would have had to find answers to some seriously difficult questions but he was spared from that because the gods were smiling on him. Had Sean Goss showed Odsonne Edouard down the outside – as he should have done – then the Celtic sub would have been unlikely to score the winning goal two minutes after coming on to the pitch.
That wasn’t down to Rodgers being a genius, that was down to sheer luck.
Long before that Rangers could have had the game wrapped up when they were by far the superior side.
Had they taken one of their chances to make it 3-1 in the first half then I’m pretty sure Celtic would not have come back from it.
They got another break early in the game when Goss was too inexperienced to realise he had to take one for the team when the ball broke to Tom Rogic seconds before the Australian curled home Celtic’s first goal. Goss should have cleaned him out before he had a chance to line up his shot.
Celtic got lucky again when David Bates had to be carried off right after the Rogic equaliser because the youngster has been Rangers best defender for some time now
I am absolutely certain Bates would not have got on the wrong side of Moussa Dembele seconds before half time the way his replacement Fabio Cardoso did – allowing Celtic to end the half on a huge high.
There was another massive moment at the end of the second half when Alfredo Morelos missed an open goal from two yards out. On any other day he scores to level it up.
I would even go as far as to say Rodgers got lucky again when Jozo Simunovic was sent off because, for as long as the game was 11 v 11, Rangers were the better side.
It was only after that moment Celtic really got to grips with the game and I know from experience how a match can change when one side goes down to 10 men. The decision gave Celtic a shot in the arm and created a siege mentality.
Rangers didn’t react well to it at all.
That was frustrating to watch because they should have been moving the ball quicker and using the whole of the pitch to tire their opponents and open Celtic up. That they failed to do that was another sign of inexperience and, yes, Murty has to take his share of the blame.
But he will learn from it and so will his players.
I agreed with every word he said after the game and I’m a bit surprised that he has retracted some of it. He wasn’t too harsh at all.
Yes, all three of Celtic’s goals could have been avoided. Yes, Rangers could and should have played better after Celtic went down to 10 men.
And yes, these players might just have missed the best ever chance to get one over on their old rivals.
Murty was right on all points but that doesn’t mean that Rangers won’t recover and become stronger for it.
What I see is a work in progress both on the pitch and in the technical area. These are inexperienced players working for an inexperienced manager.
But where Rangers are now compared to where they were under Pedro Caixinha is night and day.
The manager and his players now need to regroup and bounce back quickly. By the time they head to Hampden to face Celtic in the Scottish Cup semi-final on April 15 their tails should be up again.
They should look back on Sunday and learn their lessons.
But most of all, they should realise how far they have come together and how far the gap has been closed.
What I saw was a Rangers side which no longer lives in fear of Celtic. I described the fixture as a boxing match and Sunday showed me Rangers are now confident enough to go toe-to-toe with their old rivals for the first time in a long time.
The fact they were so disappointed on Sunday tells me this is a group of players who will be bursting a gut to put it right at Hampden.
Murty is no longer setting his players up just to survive against Celtic. He’s setting them up to beat them. Next time, with a bit of luck on his side, that’s exactly what might happen.
Might've, would've, could've, should've...didnae.
Sums it up.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:07 AM
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Wow. That’s quite some writing by Barry.
So, senderos was doing them a favour getting sent off last season... they were getting a humping and he’s thought “right, only one thing for it, better get maser sent off”
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16 Mar 2018, 11:07 AM
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Scott Sinclair abused so badly at Glasgow Airport that the police had to intervene. A large group of Neo-Nazis parade through the streets in an illegal march where the police acted as stewards. The story isn't even touched by the Herald but they have a piece in this morning's paper with Steven Thompson claiming that players have to rise above the taunts of "Orange B*****d!"
Go figure.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:08 AM
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Read it this morning and knew it would be getting laughed at here. It really is special.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:10 AM
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From desperation, came celebration
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That is hands down the best thing I have ever read.
Sheer and utter pain.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:11 AM
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Just before the Dawn
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Barry has the last laugh though.
He actually gets paid for writing that.
It's difficult to sympathise with the rapid decline and fall of the tabloids when you realise that this is their standard.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:13 AM
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I'll play anywhere, as long as I get a game!
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- 16 Mar 2018, 11:11 AM
Barry has the last laugh though.
He actually gets paid for writing that.
It's difficult to sympathise with the rapid decline and fall of the tabloids when you realise that this is their standard. Tabloids have the last laugh... their page views will be through the roof. Many will be waiting to see what Barry writes next too! Sensationalism at its best.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:15 AM
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- 16 Mar 2018, 11:02 AM
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- 16 Mar 2018, 07:55 AM
This is wonderful  We were just lucky on Sunday because if all the things that happened hadn't happened, we'd have lost. Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers is no managerial mastermind and got lucky against Rangers - Barry FergusonBarry isn't convinced last Sunday's 3-2 win was a masterclass from Rodgers everything ran for him. Spoiler: click to toggle Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.
Take last Sunday. A day when Celtic’s manager should have walked straight out of Ibrox along Paisley Road West and into the casino at Springfield Quay to stick a year’s wages on black.
Because absolutely everything was coming up for Brendan Rodgers.
So please, leave me out of this theory that Graeme Murty was being schooled by some sort of managerial mastermind as Rangerslost to 10 men.
That has been the talk amongst a lot of fans who are using this latest derby defeat as proof that Murty is in way over his head his against Rodgers and not up to the job of taking my old club back to the top.
Excuse me, but what have these people been watching? If they can’t see the strides Rangers have made in a very short space of time under Murty then they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
And to use last Sunday as a stick to hit him over the head with is just a massive over-reaction to another painful result. I sympathise because I’m hurting too. I’ve been a Rangers man long enough to know winning means everything, especially on derby day.
But I’ve watched the game again and keep coming back to the same conclusion – the only real difference between Celtic and Rangers on the day was a massive slice of good fortune.
Yes, Rodgers has taken all the plaudits because of the decisions he made in the second half. And who am I to disagree?
I take my hat off to the guy because, as a manager, he is different class.
When he made the call to take off James Forrest and replace him with a striker, with his side down to 10 men and the game balanced at 2-2, it was incredibly brave and bold management.
But what happened next was also incredibly lucky and he’s fortunate it all went his way because had Rangers won 3-2 it would have been him and not Murty who has spent the last week under fire.
Why did he start with Dedryck Boyata and a back three when this was always going to be the most vulnerable part of his team?
Why then change a midfielder for a striker with the game in the balance?
Rodgers would have had to find answers to some seriously difficult questions but he was spared from that because the gods were smiling on him. Had Sean Goss showed Odsonne Edouard down the outside – as he should have done – then the Celtic sub would have been unlikely to score the winning goal two minutes after coming on to the pitch.
That wasn’t down to Rodgers being a genius, that was down to sheer luck.
Long before that Rangers could have had the game wrapped up when they were by far the superior side.
Had they taken one of their chances to make it 3-1 in the first half then I’m pretty sure Celtic would not have come back from it.
They got another break early in the game when Goss was too inexperienced to realise he had to take one for the team when the ball broke to Tom Rogic seconds before the Australian curled home Celtic’s first goal. Goss should have cleaned him out before he had a chance to line up his shot.
Celtic got lucky again when David Bates had to be carried off right after the Rogic equaliser because the youngster has been Rangers best defender for some time now
I am absolutely certain Bates would not have got on the wrong side of Moussa Dembele seconds before half time the way his replacement Fabio Cardoso did – allowing Celtic to end the half on a huge high.
There was another massive moment at the end of the second half when Alfredo Morelos missed an open goal from two yards out. On any other day he scores to level it up.
I would even go as far as to say Rodgers got lucky again when Jozo Simunovic was sent off because, for as long as the game was 11 v 11, Rangers were the better side.
It was only after that moment Celtic really got to grips with the game and I know from experience how a match can change when one side goes down to 10 men. The decision gave Celtic a shot in the arm and created a siege mentality.
Rangers didn’t react well to it at all.
That was frustrating to watch because they should have been moving the ball quicker and using the whole of the pitch to tire their opponents and open Celtic up. That they failed to do that was another sign of inexperience and, yes, Murty has to take his share of the blame.
But he will learn from it and so will his players.
I agreed with every word he said after the game and I’m a bit surprised that he has retracted some of it. He wasn’t too harsh at all.
Yes, all three of Celtic’s goals could have been avoided. Yes, Rangers could and should have played better after Celtic went down to 10 men.
And yes, these players might just have missed the best ever chance to get one over on their old rivals.
Murty was right on all points but that doesn’t mean that Rangers won’t recover and become stronger for it.
What I see is a work in progress both on the pitch and in the technical area. These are inexperienced players working for an inexperienced manager.
But where Rangers are now compared to where they were under Pedro Caixinha is night and day.
The manager and his players now need to regroup and bounce back quickly. By the time they head to Hampden to face Celtic in the Scottish Cup semi-final on April 15 their tails should be up again.
They should look back on Sunday and learn their lessons.
But most of all, they should realise how far they have come together and how far the gap has been closed.
What I saw was a Rangers side which no longer lives in fear of Celtic. I described the fixture as a boxing match and Sunday showed me Rangers are now confident enough to go toe-to-toe with their old rivals for the first time in a long time.
The fact they were so disappointed on Sunday tells me this is a group of players who will be bursting a gut to put it right at Hampden.
Murty is no longer setting his players up just to survive against Celtic. He’s setting them up to beat them. Next time, with a bit of luck on his side, that’s exactly what might happen.
Might've, would've, could've, should've...didnae. Sums it up. With that sort of deluded and blinkered thinking, hopefully he will become their manager at some point The fact that his beloved team lost their cojones completely in the period that Celtic only had 10 men is something he might want to think about. Suggesting that BR was lucky Celtic had a man sent off and that helped them win the game is laughable. BR reacted to the sending off by organising the team and also brought on Edouard for Forrest when I think most expected him to bring on another defender. He set the team up to win the game rather than trying to hold on for a draw, that is what a good manager does, reacts to what is happening on the pitch and makes adjustments accordingly. They probably played as well as they possibly could and Celtic didn't actually play that well, had 10 men for 35 minutes plus and still won. Murty just stood there hoping for the best, that's the difference. This was their big chance to close the gap a bit and they failed, in the process they came up against a team that knows how to win big games rather than simply talking about it. Mind the gap and keep those excuses coming.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:25 AM
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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- atinofbeans
- 16 Mar 2018, 10:52 AM
That is a tremendous insight into the Level 5 mind.
"Rodgers would have had to find answers to some seriously difficult questions but he was spared from that because the gods were smiling on him. Had Sean Goss showed Odsonne Edouard down the outside – as he should have done – then the Celtic sub would have been unlikely to score the winning goal two minutes after coming on to the pitch.
That wasn’t down to Rodgers being a genius, that was down to sheer luck.
Long before that Rangers could have had the game wrapped up when they were by far the superior side.
Had they taken one of their chances to make it 3-1 in the first half then I’m pretty sure Celtic would not have come back from it.
They got another break early in the game when Goss was too inexperienced to realise he had to take one for the team when the ball broke to Tom Rogic seconds before the Australian curled home Celtic’s first goal. Goss should have cleaned him out before he had a chance to line up his shot.
Celtic got lucky again when David Bates had to be carried off right after the Rogic equaliser because the youngster has been Rangers best defender for some time now
I am absolutely certain Bates would not have got on the wrong side of Moussa Dembele seconds before half time the way his replacement Fabio Cardoso did – allowing Celtic to end the half on a huge high."
And if my auntie had a...
Maybe just Barry Ferguson's mind.
I'm sure he was capable of talking dross way before Level 5 was dreamed up.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:28 AM
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There is a reason why Brendan Rodgers has managed/is managing two of the biggest clubs in the world in Celtic and Liverpool and is currently on a reputed £2M a year and a reason why wee Barry is none of these. It has nothing to do with being lucky.
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16 Mar 2018, 11:34 AM
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- fatboab
- 16 Mar 2018, 11:11 AM
Barry has the last laugh though.
He actually gets paid for writing that.
It's difficult to sympathise with the rapid decline and fall of the tabloids when you realise that this is their standard. Gets the even laster laugh because he probably didn't write a word of it.
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