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Supporters/Green Brigade Thread; OBFA Act Repealed
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Topic Started: 15 Aug 2017, 01:23 PM (325,748 Views)
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Seneca
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15 Sep 2017, 02:38 AM
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if you read back you'l see comments like 'he deserves eveything he gets' etc. he admitted it because he was advised to, in order to get a quick bail and get home due to a ridiculous interpretation of a ridiculous law that makes it possible to be convicted of assaulting somebody when no contact was made. i saw the video. i don't think he knew what he was intending to do. i also saw the manager of my club being assaulted in the real sense of the word. with the cameras actually showing it but it was an 'alleged' assault that was later deemed a breach of the peace in a court of law. scottish law is a total ass and that's why he pleaded guilty to assault. the lawyers and smart alecs amongst us can use it to condemm a young man who had a moment of madness but forgive me if i stick to my own definitions of right and wrong and what a real assault actually looks like. If a complete stranger swings a punch at me and happens to miss, I would be relieved that they missed but I would also be seriously frightened and I would consider I had been assaulted.
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15 Sep 2017, 03:06 AM
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if you read back you'l see comments like 'he deserves eveything he gets' etc. he admitted it because he was advised to, in order to get a quick bail and get home due to a ridiculous interpretation of a ridiculous law that makes it possible to be convicted of assaulting somebody when no contact was made. i saw the video. i don't think he knew what he was intending to do. i also saw the manager of my club being assaulted in the real sense of the word. with the cameras actually showing it but it was an 'alleged' assault that was later deemed a breach of the peace in a court of law. scottish law is a total ass and that's why he pleaded guilty to assault. the lawyers and smart alecs amongst us can use it to condemm a young man who had a moment of madness but forgive me if i stick to my own definitions of right and wrong and what a real assault actually looks like.
If a complete stranger swings a punch at me and happens to miss, I would be relieved that they missed but I would also be seriously frightened and I would consider I had been assaulted. Oh dear Christ,you've just assaulted my eyes reading that pish.
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15 Sep 2017, 03:49 AM
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So, a wee floof misbehaves at a CL match. Who would have thunk it? If only someone had warned about this when the draw was made.
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15 Sep 2017, 04:14 AM
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if you read back you'l see comments like 'he deserves eveything he gets' etc. he admitted it because he was advised to, in order to get a quick bail and get home due to a ridiculous interpretation of a ridiculous law that makes it possible to be convicted of assaulting somebody when no contact was made. i saw the video. i don't think he knew what he was intending to do. i also saw the manager of my club being assaulted in the real sense of the word. with the cameras actually showing it but it was an 'alleged' assault that was later deemed a breach of the peace in a court of law. scottish law is a total ass and that's why he pleaded guilty to assault. the lawyers and smart alecs amongst us can use it to condemm a young man who had a moment of madness but forgive me if i stick to my own definitions of right and wrong and what a real assault actually looks like.
If a complete stranger swings a punch at me and happens to miss, I would be relieved that they missed but I would also be seriously frightened and I would consider I had been assaulted. the 'victim' in this case didn't seem at all traumatised and the only danger he was in was breaking one of his ribs laughing. that tells me more than a 10 second youtube clip.
and people saying he deserves everything he gets. not being banned is enough but some people want his employment to be affected.
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Joe the Baker
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15 Sep 2017, 07:48 AM
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Feel bad for the young guy who will have trouble getting a job for a bit of gross stupidity. Club were right to ban him though.
No sympathy for the eejit. Has big consequences for him, but running on to the pitch and trying to kick a player is serious shampoo. As for the guy that hit him, he shouldn't have done it given the boy had already been huckled but I have sympathy for him. As did the Sheriff when refusing to ban him from football. I don't think there is a big danger he is going to cause any problems in future. The young guy deserves a life ban though.
the only person who assaulted anyone was the old guy. pitch invader had a moment of madness. he never assaulted anybody but apparently some would like to see his life ruined for it. I'm on my phone so can't link but on your twitter page you have a few posts laughing and mocking English football fans being assaulted.
How's this for a punchbag you effing pumpkin? Is the comment attached to one.
Why the difference there in your stance to here?
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15 Sep 2017, 07:49 AM
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Less than one in every ten CL group games at CP will statistically see someone from out support invade the pitch and make a very bad job of attacking an opposition player.
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15 Sep 2017, 07:51 AM
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Stuff yer 180 . Joe with the 9 darter GIRUY Fearghas.
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15 Sep 2017, 08:01 AM
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if you read back you'l see comments like 'he deserves eveything he gets' etc. he admitted it because he was advised to, in order to get a quick bail and get home due to a ridiculous interpretation of a ridiculous law that makes it possible to be convicted of assaulting somebody when no contact was made. i saw the video. i don't think he knew what he was intending to do. i also saw the manager of my club being assaulted in the real sense of the word. with the cameras actually showing it but it was an 'alleged' assault that was later deemed a breach of the peace in a court of law. scottish law is a total ass and that's why he pleaded guilty to assault. the lawyers and smart alecs amongst us can use it to condemm a young man who had a moment of madness but forgive me if i stick to my own definitions of right and wrong and what a real assault actually looks like.
He does deserve everything he gets. That is not wishing his life to be ruined. Compared to what the club might suffer his punishment will never compare. The most the club can do is ban him for life. Hardly ruining his life. The courts could jail him but I do not see the point in that and (depending on any previous) would not expect it. There will be some deterrent element, however, and I will leave the Sheriff to assess that. If he gets a sentence that ruins his life it's because there is something else there we do not know about. But as I say I doubt his punishment will be so severe. You are probably right in that some may have wished him hung, drawn and quartered (particularly at the time) but many just agree he deserves what is coming to him. Yes he was stupid, yes he was drunk, yes the kick at Mbappe would have been comical if it was not so serious, but you can't have people running on to a sports field trying to assault people (regardless of your opinion on that law). And if I remember correctly the guy who went for Lenny was not acquitted of assault, but of assault with a racist element. It was the last bit they could not prove. Regardless, that eejit got the sentence he would have got for the assault anyway. Sheriffs don't always get their sentencing right but he did then. They were also right in not banning the boy who skelped the laddie on Tuesday from all football. Happy to let them pass sentence in the knowledge it will not, in itself, ruin the boys life. And as regards the boy pleading guilty, I expect the weight of evidence would have been rather persuasive rather than a need for bail. I don't think a remand was in the offing. Think it was assault with a religious element, but yip, agree with you.
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15 Sep 2017, 08:22 AM
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Quite a lot of people have fancied giving the guy who chucked a bottle at the rapid Vienna game a boot in the baws. Similarly with the two who attacked two rapid players. Their actions cost the club big time. Rapid got to a final that year.
Maybe the 61 year old remembered all that shampoo and hit the guy a slap. Regardless, he didn't beat him senseless. It might not be fair or just or anything like that but anyone running on the pitch and doing something that could have serious repercussions for the club really can't be amazed if some carrot bats him around the head.
He tried to boot a player on the pitch. Amazing anyone gives a eff about someone chinning him in the circumstances. I don't think he'd be that surprised himself.
Don't remember anybody being taken to court for the bottle throwing incident v Rapid Vienna. Vaguely remember a Scottish newspaper tried to pin it on one poor sod but it never came to anything. Donny - from the Dalmuir bus. Previously known as the Boulevard bus (until the battle of the Boulevard led to a change of location)
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15 Sep 2017, 08:31 AM
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Hopefully UEFA will look at things like this to see that the vast majority of Celtic fans are there for the football and the banter and that wee floof that ran on the park is not representative of us.
'Celtic trip was the best of my life' Paris Saint-Germain Ultras open up about 'mythical' Parkhead More than 1500 fans descended on Glasgow for the match and supporters forged a bond which ended with the swapping of scarves at the end.
Spoiler: click to toggle ByGraeme Young Celtic Park has gained a legendary status for the atmosphere it creates on European nights. The home fans were in fine voice once again despite the 5-0 Champions League thumping dished out by Paris Saint-Germain on Tuesday. More than 1500 PSG fans descended on Glasgow for the match, many of whom travelled by bus in journey lasting 19 hours. Big games under the lights at Parkhead are the stuff of legend and PSG's Ultras were bowled over with the noise generated in Glasgow's east end and supporters forged a bond which ended with the swapping of scarves. Mika - from the club's 500-strong Collectif Ultras Paris – has shared his experiences from that night in the city. And he says the good vibes started long before they reached the stadium. Mika told Le Parisien: "In every bar where there were guys from Celtic buying us pints." Patrice, another Ultra, was blown away with his trip to Scotland and the reception from home supporters for the opening match in Group B as superstars Neymar and Kylian Mbappe ran amok. He said: "It was an incredible atmosphere. They are very welcoming. The end of the match was really nice. This is the best trip of my life." Sometimes fans of the beautiful game in this country can get downcast, but Mika holds a trip to Parkhead in elite company. He added: "Celtic, Liverpool and Dortmund are three mythical stadiums for live big matches. We knew since the 1995 match that the Scots knew how to receive and that we would be welcome. There is mutual respect, even if during the game it was a beautiful fight of songs." Despite the disappointing result, the famous Parkhead atmosphere in the eyes of the PSG Ultras remains undefeated. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-trip-best-life-paris-11170346
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15 Sep 2017, 08:45 AM
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Hopefully UEFA will look at things like this to see that the vast majority of Celtic fans are there for the football and the banter and that wee floof that ran on the park is not representative of us. 'Celtic trip was the best of my life' Paris Saint-Germain Ultras open up about 'mythical' ParkheadMore than 1500 fans descended on Glasgow for the match and supporters forged a bond which ended with the swapping of scarves at the end. Spoiler: click to toggle ByGraeme Young Celtic Park has gained a legendary status for the atmosphere it creates on European nights. The home fans were in fine voice once again despite the 5-0 Champions League thumping dished out by Paris Saint-Germain on Tuesday. More than 1500 PSG fans descended on Glasgow for the match, many of whom travelled by bus in journey lasting 19 hours. Big games under the lights at Parkhead are the stuff of legend and PSG's Ultras were bowled over with the noise generated in Glasgow's east end and supporters forged a bond which ended with the swapping of scarves. Mika - from the club's 500-strong Collectif Ultras Paris – has shared his experiences from that night in the city. And he says the good vibes started long before they reached the stadium. Mika told Le Parisien: "In every bar where there were guys from Celtic buying us pints." Patrice, another Ultra, was blown away with his trip to Scotland and the reception from home supporters for the opening match in Group B as superstars Neymar and Kylian Mbappe ran amok. He said: "It was an incredible atmosphere. They are very welcoming. The end of the match was really nice. This is the best trip of my life." Sometimes fans of the beautiful game in this country can get downcast, but Mika holds a trip to Parkhead in elite company. He added: "Celtic, Liverpool and Dortmund are three mythical stadiums for live big matches. We knew since the 1995 match that the Scots knew how to receive and that we would be welcome. There is mutual respect, even if during the game it was a beautiful fight of songs." Despite the disappointing result, the famous Parkhead atmosphere in the eyes of the PSG Ultras remains undefeated. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-trip-best-life-paris-11170346 DR in 2nd positive Celtic-fan story in as many days? WTF's going on?
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15 Sep 2017, 08:55 AM
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15 Sep 2017, 09:12 AM
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the only person who assaulted anyone was the old guy. pitch invader had a moment of madness. he never assaulted anybody but apparently some would like to see his life ruined for it.
I'm on my phone so can't link but on your twitter page you have a few posts laughing and mocking English football fans being assaulted. How's this for a punchbag you effing pumpkin? Is the comment attached to one. Why the difference there in your stance to here? there's a difference in a group of thugs who are used to dishing out violence getting their commupence and attacking someone who is already in police custody.
i make absoloutely no apology for enjoying poetic justice being served and telling them i enjoyed it.
poor attempt at whatabouttery. two totally different contexts.
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15 Sep 2017, 09:33 AM
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I'm on my phone so can't link but on your twitter page you have a few posts laughing and mocking English football fans being assaulted. How's this for a punchbag you effing pumpkin? Is the comment attached to one. Why the difference there in your stance to here?
there's a difference in a group of thugs who are used to dishing out violence getting their commupence and attacking someone who is already in police custody. i make absoloutely no apology for enjoying poetic justice being served and telling them i enjoyed it. poor attempt at whatabouttery. two totally different contexts. So you're condoning assault now?
Cool.
Long as I know.
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if you read back you'l see comments like 'he deserves eveything he gets' etc. he admitted it because he was advised to, in order to get a quick bail and get home due to a ridiculous interpretation of a ridiculous law that makes it possible to be convicted of assaulting somebody when no contact was made. i saw the video. i don't think he knew what he was intending to do. i also saw the manager of my club being assaulted in the real sense of the word. with the cameras actually showing it but it was an 'alleged' assault that was later deemed a breach of the peace in a court of law. scottish law is a total ass and that's why he pleaded guilty to assault. the lawyers and smart alecs amongst us can use it to condemm a young man who had a moment of madness but forgive me if i stick to my own definitions of right and wrong and what a real assault actually looks like.
If a complete stranger swings a punch at me and happens to miss, I would be relieved that they missed but I would also be seriously frightened and I would consider I had been assaulted. What in the eff? Fair enough being frightened but there is no effing way that is assault.
Pitch invader was an idiot. Aul lad was just mad as hell at the idiot
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15 Sep 2017, 09:44 AM
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If a complete stranger swings a punch at me and happens to miss, I would be relieved that they missed but I would also be seriously frightened and I would consider I had been assaulted.
What in the eff? Fair enough being frightened but there is no effing way that is assault. Pitch invader was an idiot. Aul lad was just mad as hell at the idiot You don't need to make contact for it to be assault. Don't think that's restricted to Scotland but a lawyer will probably be able to clarify.
Also, re Fearghas's point, someone is alleged to have done it before and during their trial, until they admit it or are found guilty.
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15 Sep 2017, 09:44 AM
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If a complete stranger swings a punch at me and happens to miss, I would be relieved that they missed but I would also be seriously frightened and I would consider I had been assaulted.
What in the eff? Fair enough being frightened but there is no effing way that is assault. Pitch invader was an idiot. Aul lad was just mad as hell at the idiot You grow a punch or a kick, it is assault. Being way off the mark with your aim is no defence.
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Good to know that the next time I'm mad as hell at someone in the stadium I can punch them in the face and people will be willing to pay any fine I may receive. Will they serve my custodial sentence if I get one too, or are they only willing to make a show of donating cash?
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15 Sep 2017, 10:03 AM
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If a complete stranger swings a punch at me and happens to miss, I would be relieved that they missed but I would also be seriously frightened and I would consider I had been assaulted.
What in the eff? Fair enough being frightened but there is no effing way that is assault. Pitch invader was an idiot. Aul lad was just mad as hell at the idiot It actually is classed as assault.
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If a complete stranger swings a punch at me and happens to miss, I would be relieved that they missed but I would also be seriously frightened and I would consider I had been assaulted.
What in the eff? Fair enough being frightened but there is no effing way that is assault. Pitch invader was an idiot. Aul lad was just mad as hell at the idiot Missed and you are assaulted.
Whatever next.
if the law says that is assault then it is firmly an ass
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