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Supporters/Green Brigade Thread; OBFA Act Repealed
Topic Started: 15 Aug 2017, 01:23 PM (325,771 Views)
niall
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4 Sep 2017, 01:00 AM

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So I could sit in a pub all day with that tshirt on with no problembut someone else with it on who pops in for a pint enroute to the game could get lifted?? That's ridiculous
That's not correct. It is an offence to "wear an item of clothing in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he is a member or supporter of a proscribed organisation."

It is an offence under section 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000, so it is entirely separate to the OFBATFA.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/13

The proscribed organisation is the IRA, there is no distinction with the PIRA.

There have been very few prosecutions under section 13, but this article refers to 2 of them:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13184850.Marcher_caught_on_camera_in_IRA__uniform_/

I assumed that those wearing tshirts would be charged under the Terrorism Act (as it is much clearer and easier to prove). They may be charged under the OFBATFA as well, I really don't know as I haven't seen the summary complaints. And yes, I'm a lawyer too........
I didn't know that. Cheers
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if the OBAF act is repealed at this parliament, what happens to those awaiting trial under the act, or indeed those who have been convicted under the act?

I recall reading that during a demonstration against the OBAF act outside Holyrood, the demonstrators sang Roll of honour with impunity, as it is only an offence under the act to sing it in relation to a football match. That, if true, would confirm how nonsensical the act is - being able to sing a song at a demonstration with impunity, whilst complaining about being arrested for singing the same song.
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if the OBAF act is repealed at this parliament, what happens to those awaiting trial under the act, or indeed those who have been convicted under the act?

I recall reading that during a demonstration against the OBAF act outside Holyrood, the demonstrators sang Roll of honour with impunity, as it is only an offence under the act to sing it in relation to a football match. That, if true, would confirm how nonsensical the act is - being able to sing a song at a demonstration with impunity, whilst complaining about being arrested for singing the same song.

Its bizarre

Would be interested if anyone from the Cairde or RFB scene is on, as the Police seem to allow the Hunger Strike memorial march, complete with bands and posters of the 10, and presumably provide policing to enable it. Where exactly is the line drawn as to what is legal and what isn't outside of the contest of football?
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The amount of money, time and resources spent on Focus would be far better spent tackling real organised crime in our city.
Especially in the north side of the burg where yours truly resides :thumbsup:
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7 Sep 2017, 05:25 PM
The amount of money, time and resources spent on Focus would be far better spent tackling real organised crime in our city.
Especially in the north side of the burg where yours truly resides :thumbsup:
You do realise your probably now on a list somewhere with that post.
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Cannot wait for the game and hope the GB and us all make it special as Im sure we will. Hope it does not go flat a la Bayern german team - like it went last year. Will be a great night...have I mentioned I cannot wait...plus Im off Wednesday!!!!
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10 Sep 2017, 12:54 PM
Cannot wait for the game and hope the GB and us all make it special as Im sure we will. Hope it does not go flat a la Bayern german team - like it went last year. Will be a great night...have I mentioned I cannot wait...plus Im off Wednesday!!!!
would be interesting to see if there is any banner around the recent events for the watching millions around Europe....?
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So I could sit in a pub all day with that tshirt on with no problembut someone else with it on who pops in for a pint enroute to the game could get lifted?? That's ridiculous
That's not correct. It is an offence to "wear an item of clothing in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he is a member or supporter of a proscribed organisation."

It is an offence under section 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000, so it is entirely separate to the OFBATFA.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/13

The proscribed organisation is the IRA, there is no distinction with the PIRA.

There have been very few prosecutions under section 13, but this article refers to 2 of them:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13184850.Marcher_caught_on_camera_in_IRA__uniform_/

I assumed that those wearing tshirts would be charged under the Terrorism Act (as it is much clearer and easier to prove). They may be charged under the OFBATFA as well, I really don't know as I haven't seen the summary complaints. And yes, I'm a lawyer too........
So it could have been a shirt with mick Collins on it they'd have been open to getting done?


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littlegmbhoy
10 Sep 2017, 12:54 PM
Cannot wait for the game and hope the GB and us all make it special as Im sure we will. Hope it does not go flat a la Bayern german team - like it went last year. Will be a great night...have I mentioned I cannot wait...plus Im off Wednesday!!!!
would be interesting to see if there is any banner around the recent events for the watching millions around Europe....?
'John Greigs A Bastard' in French and German and that stuff they speak in Belgium.
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Good article in Herald today on Higgin's attitude to GB & others :suspect:

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So...

What is going to happen due to admiral arsehole?
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Carrot didn't even make contact. Embarrassing.
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It's UEFA
Should be a fine,but........
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12 Sep 2017, 10:13 PM
So...

What is going to happen due to admiral arsehole?
You're much more likely to get whacked for that than a chant or a flare tbh.
Idiot should be made to wash naymars jock strap with his tongue for a year.
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12 Sep 2017, 10:17 PM
Carrot didn't even make contact. Embarrassing.
Closest we got to one of their players all night
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Punters in the North Stand were trying to batter him when the polis were taking him through the NS.

I thought for a minute he was going to hug Sinclair the he had that wild swipe- what a 🥕.

It was Mbappe he tried to kick wasn't it? What did he do? Daft pumpkin probably thought it was Neymar.
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Expect a stadium closure sometime due to the actions of one moron.
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As much as I love CL nights, the unfortunate thing is that it brings out the drunken arsehole daytrippers.
I'd bet money that the guy who ran on tonight can't even spell season ticket. :cuckoo:
Big fine coming Celtic's way again.
If anybody knows the arsehole who ran on, give him a good boot in the stanes.
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12 Sep 2017, 10:17 PM
Carrot didn't even make contact. Embarrassing.
Think he absolutely what it as he probably didn't expect to get close to him. A total rid neck.
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