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Supporters/Green Brigade Thread; OBFA Act Repealed
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Topic Started: 15 Aug 2017, 01:23 PM (325,777 Views)
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Kingslim
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21 Aug 2017, 03:54 PM
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- 21 Aug 2017, 03:36 PM
They added to the atmosphere at the Hearts game for sure. The Hearts game was organised. As much as it wasn't great being in the vicinity - I can accept that one as there was a genuine purpose.
It's bawbags letting off random, shampooey, smoke bombs that do nothing for any display/atmosphere and leave you choking for feck all.
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21 Aug 2017, 05:32 PM
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It's mental. If people want to have a go at the GB for one of their displays, fair enough. But it's ridiculous to have a go at them for something that wasn't in their display. If anyone wanted an LGBT flag against Linfield, they could easily have taken one themselves. Don't blame other people for not doing it on your behalf.
For what its worth, I'm pretty positive that we would be the only section of Celtic Park to ever display a Gay Pride flag also. As with everything we do, we make decisions based around what is the right thing for us to do in what best represents our group and what we think also represents other fans or should represent our club. Sometimes that's not popular and we get inevitable stick, however we will always be true to ourselves and we've never not had significant support from other fans for any action we've done. It's a bit cheap though for some to criticise us for not doing something when they have zero intention of doing anything themselves. As Brendan rightfully pointed out last week, what we do requires an awful lot of time/commitment/effort which most will never fully realise nor be willing to make a fraction of themselves. A small squad of around 15 bodies, ranging in age from 16-30, gave up their Friday night to make a Gay Pride banner for the weekend. That's not exactly a common activity for most young guys from Glasgow on a Friday night - in fact in most circles you'd probably be slagged for it. It's an important education for young boys coming through our group, all the young boys who flock around us and hopefully many many more who noticed the banner and were made to think about the message/subject. I grew up using homophobic patter thinking nothing of it, it was just the done thing at that time with no malice behind it. It was becoming involved in the Green Brigade that first made me think about it and we have the same influence across so many young boys in/around our group, same with other forms of casual discrimination. And it doesn't just stop at people knowing not to use the terms either as most go further by challenging others when its being used and educating them on why it's wrong. The last paragraph I get so much. I was similar. Maybe it's an age thing - I'm 37 - or from our parents who wouldn't have really thought anything about using that type of chat without meaning anything bad. Anything that can be done to encourage the youth of today to use more appropriate language should be done. Well done
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Mubo Loravcik
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21 Aug 2017, 05:52 PM
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Can you see there being any more pride banners within the GB section the rest of the season or is it a pride-day only kinda deal? Really chuffed with the GB for displaying it either ways.
I wouldn’t image so tbh unless there’s someone who is that way inclined to make a point of taking one. I can only ever remember the Pride flag being in our section a few times in around 11 years – the important point is that it is welcome and anyone inclined to bring it should know that and feel comfortable to display it. I’m not going to kid on we’re some champion of LGBT rights ‘cause we’re not at all, we simply made a small statement on something we believe to be right. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination. We don’t jump on every cause or subject, we will select certain actions to highlight certain issues where we see it as necessary. Pride was highlighted as it was Pride weekend and more importantly for us it was an issue which we had never made a public statement on which is a self-criticism as much as anything else. For years we actually invited an LGBT team to take part in our annual anti-discrimination football tournament but we were always patched – a common theme with some ‘left’ groups in Glasgow though. Genuine question mac_bhoy.
We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.
That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game?
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21 Aug 2017, 06:26 PM
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I wouldn’t image so tbh unless there’s someone who is that way inclined to make a point of taking one. I can only ever remember the Pride flag being in our section a few times in around 11 years – the important point is that it is welcome and anyone inclined to bring it should know that and feel comfortable to display it. I’m not going to kid on we’re some champion of LGBT rights ‘cause we’re not at all, we simply made a small statement on something we believe to be right. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination. We don’t jump on every cause or subject, we will select certain actions to highlight certain issues where we see it as necessary. Pride was highlighted as it was Pride weekend and more importantly for us it was an issue which we had never made a public statement on which is a self-criticism as much as anything else. For years we actually invited an LGBT team to take part in our annual anti-discrimination football tournament but we were always patched – a common theme with some ‘left’ groups in Glasgow though.
Genuine question mac_bhoy. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game? Jesus H. Christ.
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21 Aug 2017, 06:40 PM
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Fair play to Macbhoy for posting on here - always felt he handles himself fine
(Appreciate that's not much of n endorsement right enough)
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21 Aug 2017, 06:41 PM
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Smoke bombs have never really bothered me - and my wee fella adores them. However on Saturday one was let off directly beside a guy who's recently had a pace maker refitted. He struggled after this and was chalk-white at half time when I went down to see him. Kind of changed my view of their use. Fair enough if they're let off in a section full of like minded fans - ok you can't control the secondary effects but at least it's not dropped directly beside someone vulnerable. But to drop it beside someone who you have no idea of their health is extremely selfish imho.
' If yer no fit for Pyros, yer no fit for Celtic!!! Until the last Rebel!!! ' MacBhoy..... When did he say that
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21 Aug 2017, 06:53 PM
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I wouldn’t image so tbh unless there’s someone who is that way inclined to make a point of taking one. I can only ever remember the Pride flag being in our section a few times in around 11 years – the important point is that it is welcome and anyone inclined to bring it should know that and feel comfortable to display it. I’m not going to kid on we’re some champion of LGBT rights ‘cause we’re not at all, we simply made a small statement on something we believe to be right. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination. We don’t jump on every cause or subject, we will select certain actions to highlight certain issues where we see it as necessary. Pride was highlighted as it was Pride weekend and more importantly for us it was an issue which we had never made a public statement on which is a self-criticism as much as anything else. For years we actually invited an LGBT team to take part in our annual anti-discrimination football tournament but we were always patched – a common theme with some ‘left’ groups in Glasgow though.
Genuine question mac_bhoy. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game? Is that a joke aye?
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21 Aug 2017, 06:58 PM
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Genuine question mac_bhoy. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game?
Jesus H. Christ. There's lots of genuine questions you could put to the GB or mac_bhoy, but I think that one is quite a long way down the list
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21 Aug 2017, 07:41 PM
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Genuine question mac_bhoy. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game?
Jesus H. Christ. Look Ma, I'm going to catch someone out on the internet, I've got him now!!!
Desperate stuff.
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21 Aug 2017, 08:00 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepWe’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.
That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game?
Jesus H. Christ.
Look Ma, I'm going to catch someone out on the internet, I've got him now!!! Desperate stuff.
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21 Aug 2017, 08:05 PM
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Smoke bombs have never really bothered me - and my wee fella adores them. However on Saturday one was let off directly beside a guy who's recently had a pace maker refitted. He struggled after this and was chalk-white at half time when I went down to see him. Kind of changed my view of their use. Fair enough if they're let off in a section full of like minded fans - ok you can't control the secondary effects but at least it's not dropped directly beside someone vulnerable. But to drop it beside someone who you have no idea of their health is extremely selfish imho.
I was in the Moffat and there must have been about 4 or 5 let off. Breathing that stuff in, isn't good.
Am I correct in thinking that a smoke bomb is against the law as it is classed as an explosive and so if you get done then it's a much worse offence than just breach? They are prohibited under Section 5 of the Firerams Act 1968 and yes you are correct, it's a more serious offence than breach.
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22 Aug 2017, 09:27 AM
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We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination. We don’t jump on every cause or subject, we will select certain actions to highlight certain issues where we see it as necessary. Pride was highlighted as it was Pride weekend and more importantly for us it was an issue which we had never made a public statement on which is a self-criticism as much as anything else.
Genuine question mac_bhoy. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game? Probably because Irish republicanism -like most things in life -cannot be reduced to the simplistic binary of left/right. Many people involved in the struggle to free Ireland held deeply conservative views which would offend any radical leftist.
But the concept of being "left-wing" is also fluid; a "left-wing" Green Brigade at the Hampden in the Sun cup final would have been pro-Israel, a "left-wing" Green Brigade at the Hampden riot final would have wanted to leave Europe.
Anyone trying to create any kind of clear alignment between Celtic, Irish republicanism and leftism is always going to be on a hiding to nothing.
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22 Aug 2017, 10:14 AM
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I wouldn’t image so tbh unless there’s someone who is that way inclined to make a point of taking one. I can only ever remember the Pride flag being in our section a few times in around 11 years – the important point is that it is welcome and anyone inclined to bring it should know that and feel comfortable to display it. I’m not going to kid on we’re some champion of LGBT rights ‘cause we’re not at all, we simply made a small statement on something we believe to be right. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination. We don’t jump on every cause or subject, we will select certain actions to highlight certain issues where we see it as necessary. Pride was highlighted as it was Pride weekend and more importantly for us it was an issue which we had never made a public statement on which is a self-criticism as much as anything else. For years we actually invited an LGBT team to take part in our annual anti-discrimination football tournament but we were always patched – a common theme with some ‘left’ groups in Glasgow though.
Genuine question mac_bhoy. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game? Genuine question, ML.
When exactly did you find out Sean South was a right wing carrot?
As late as the 1990s in Glasgow i was still hearing Sean South described as a bit of a "commie" by older Celtic supporters.
Sounds laughable now but common currency in Celtic circles back in the day.
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22 Aug 2017, 10:42 AM
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Genuine question mac_bhoy. We’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game?
Probably because Irish republicanism -like most things in life -cannot be reduced to the simplistic binary of left/right. Many people involved in the struggle to free Ireland held deeply conservative views which would offend any radical leftist. But the concept of being "left-wing" is also fluid; a "left-wing" Green Brigade at the Hampden in the Sun cup final would have been pro-Israel, a "left-wing" Green Brigade at the Hampden riot final would have wanted to leave Europe. Anyone trying to create any kind of clear alignment between Celtic, Irish republicanism and leftism is always going to be on a hiding to nothing. The provos were anti left wing at first and after they split from the officials provo graffiti "rather dead than red" appeared on catholic areas.I've already said I don't think rebel songs should be sung at Celtic park just like if you go on a republican commemoration march flute bands won't be playing Celtic songs.If you do sing rebels songs then of course you will be singing songs about ira men who died in action and I really don't think you would be digging dirt on the deceased ira to see if he maybe drank too much or was unfaithful to his wife or wasn't left wing enough to have a song sung about him.If people today were brought up in rural Ireland in the '40's like south south their view of the world would be totally different and if Sean South was brought up today he would be totally different.James Connelly wouldn't have supported gay marriage,though I'm sure he would today,but does that mean we can't sing songs about him?
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22 Aug 2017, 11:09 AM
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Cant top the ERL easterhouse rocket launchers Young Mossy Jailbirds, is a personal favourite
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22 Aug 2017, 11:15 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepWe’re a left wing group who preach left wing values and oppose discrimination.
That being the case, why does the Green Brigade sing about the far right individual Sean South at every game?
Jesus H. Christ.
Look Ma, I'm going to catch someone out on the internet, I've got him now!!! Desperate stuff. If not that, it'll be warlord John Reid on the board or Tory carrot Baron Livingston of Parkhead in there. We're not allowed to support Celtic, otherwise we're seen as condoning illegal invasions of the Middle East and austerity.
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22 Aug 2017, 11:21 AM
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22 Aug 2017, 12:42 PM
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And we think we've got problems with the GB.
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Ooft!
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