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Supporters/Green Brigade Thread; OBFA Act Repealed
Topic Started: 15 Aug 2017, 01:23 PM (325,640 Views)
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tinytim81
15 Mar 2018, 09:14 PM
Is it repealed with immediate effect?
Needs Betty to sign it off. April apparently.
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Bryan67
15 Mar 2018, 06:07 PM
Excellent to hear the OBFA is no more. Massive credit must go to Jeanette Findlay and others in the FAC group who have dedicated so much to getting this bill out on its arse.
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Great effort. Congratulations well deserved.
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Anyone find a list of the 60 who voted against repeal?
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And so, after consistent criticism throughout it 6-odd years; after criminal records dished out, jobs lost, harassment and violence brought upon the 'guilty'; after families traumatised from dawn raids, sinister off-the-record warnings from police, the Bill has been scrapped. A trail of havoc left in it's wake.

I've always suspected the bill was a predictable, easy-option attempt by the SNP to assure No voters (especially huns-types, of varying degree) that an independent Scotland wouldn't equate to Home Rule = Rome Rule! Also, and in particular, the powers it would grant what would soon become Police Scotland might help keep an ultra conservative, establishment militia onside, should the very real prospect of violent civil unrest arise from a Yes victory. As much as I want independence, if there's even a kernel of truth in that, the Bill is still as disgrace.

Celtic should never have signed up to this in the first place. When you had that fecking gimp Martin Bain demanding the reach of the Bill include chants against British Armed Forces, - stiff upper lip bullshampoo, while his club was months away from cheating itself to death - it was only ever going to be farcical. The SNP would never have dared proceed without Celtic's cooperation; Lawwell should never have agreed to support the creation of a new law when sufficient laws were in place.
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Crossraguel
15 Mar 2018, 10:43 PM
Anyone find a list of the 60 who voted against repeal?
https://www.snp.org
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15 Mar 2018, 07:15 PM
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15 Mar 2018, 06:47 PM
Oscar Strummer
15 Mar 2018, 08:53 AM

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who are these fans who want to go and see Celtic, but can't get tickets? There are always plenty of empty seats at CP, apart from the scum games and CL nights (even the qualifiers and the Europa League rarely sell out). There is no serious demand for tickets, we don't have 60,000 wanting to go every week.
Give it a rest
give what a rest?
anybody who attends CP regularly will know that there are seats available for all games, except the scum & CL games - do you see something that I don't?
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justinjest
15 Mar 2018, 06:47 PM
Oscar Strummer
15 Mar 2018, 08:53 AM
justinjest
14 Mar 2018, 12:29 AM

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Wow.

So that's the home variation of the argument that people only buy away tickets "to keep up their records for the big games".

Strange how some struggle with the concept that others actually want to go and watch Celtic.

who are these fans who want to go and see Celtic, but can't get tickets? There are always plenty of empty seats at CP, apart from the scum games and CL nights (even the qualifiers and the Europa League rarely sell out). There is no serious demand for tickets, we don't have 60,000 wanting to go every week.
How about the low paid and unemployed? Why can't there be concessions for them?
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Crossraguel
15 Mar 2018, 10:43 PM
Anyone find a list of the 60 who voted against repeal?
Curious to know the 7 MSPs who abstained from voting.
62 to 60?
There's a 129 MSPs.
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suzieghirl10
15 Mar 2018, 11:15 PM
justinjest
15 Mar 2018, 06:47 PM
Oscar Strummer
15 Mar 2018, 08:53 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
who are these fans who want to go and see Celtic, but can't get tickets? There are always plenty of empty seats at CP, apart from the scum games and CL nights (even the qualifiers and the Europa League rarely sell out). There is no serious demand for tickets, we don't have 60,000 wanting to go every week.
How about the low paid and unemployed? Why can't there be concessions for them?
that's a whole different argument - I'd be happy for the empty seats to be made available to fans who can't afford it, but how do you do that? Do Celtic need to means test everyone who applies? Working people are often as poor as the unemployed, so how do you differentiate without means testing? Universal Credit will confuse the matter as well.
Give them out to school children - will they need chaperoned?
I don't know the answer and I'm sure Celtic have thought about it, but don't know the answer either.
If you start giving tickets away or even seriously discounting them you'll get complaints from people who have paid full price - why should they be disadvantaged?


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15 Mar 2018, 10:50 PM
Crossraguel
15 Mar 2018, 10:43 PM
Anyone find a list of the 60 who voted against repeal?
https://www.snp.org
Except the SNP have 63 (inc. Mark McDonald), so theoretically could have blocked it if all their MSPs had turned up :ponder:
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Crossraguel
15 Mar 2018, 11:30 PM
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15 Mar 2018, 10:50 PM
Crossraguel
15 Mar 2018, 10:43 PM
Anyone find a list of the 60 who voted against repeal?
https://www.snp.org
Except the SNP have 63 (inc. Mark McDonald), so theoretically could have blocked it if all their MSPs had turned up :ponder:
Probably paired up with one from the other side
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aldo
15 Mar 2018, 10:49 PM
And so, after consistent criticism throughout it 6-odd years; after criminal records dished out, jobs lost, harassment and violence brought upon the 'guilty'; after families traumatised from dawn raids, sinister off-the-record warnings from police, the Bill has been scrapped. A trail of havoc left in it's wake.

I've always suspected the bill was a predictable, easy-option attempt by the SNP to assure No voters (especially huns-types, of varying degree) that an independent Scotland wouldn't equate to Home Rule = Rome Rule! Also, and in particular, the powers it would grant what would soon become Police Scotland might help keep an ultra conservative, establishment militia onside, should the very real prospect of violent civil unrest arise from a Yes victory. As much as I want independence, if there's even a kernel of truth in that, the Bill is still as disgrace.

Celtic should never have signed up to this in the first place. When you had that fecking gimp Martin Bain demanding the reach of the Bill include chants against British Armed Forces, - stiff upper lip bullshampoo, while his club was months away from cheating itself to death - it was only ever going to be farcical. The SNP would never have dared proceed without Celtic's cooperation; Lawwell should never have agreed to support the creation of a new law when sufficient laws were in place.
Celtic have never supported it. Lawwell openly condemned it.
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Monthecandy
15 Mar 2018, 11:18 PM
Crossraguel
15 Mar 2018, 10:43 PM
Anyone find a list of the 60 who voted against repeal?
Curious to know the 7 MSPs who abstained from voting.
62 to 60?
There's a 129 MSPs.
Presume Ken Macintosh is one
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15 Mar 2018, 11:32 PM
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15 Mar 2018, 10:50 PM

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Except the SNP have 63 (inc. Mark McDonald), so theoretically could have blocked it if all their MSPs had turned up :ponder:
Probably paired up with one from the other side
Appreciate they do that at Westminster, is it a Holyrood convention too?
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aldo
15 Mar 2018, 10:49 PM
And so, after consistent criticism throughout it 6-odd years; after criminal records dished out, jobs lost, harassment and violence brought upon the 'guilty'; after families traumatised from dawn raids, sinister off-the-record warnings from police, the Bill has been scrapped. A trail of havoc left in it's wake.

I've always suspected the bill was a predictable, easy-option attempt by the SNP to assure No voters (especially huns-types, of varying degree) that an independent Scotland wouldn't equate to Home Rule = Rome Rule! Also, and in particular, the powers it would grant what would soon become Police Scotland might help keep an ultra conservative, establishment militia onside, should the very real prospect of violent civil unrest arise from a Yes victory. As much as I want independence, if there's even a kernel of truth in that, the Bill is still as disgrace.

Celtic should never have signed up to this in the first place. When you had that fecking gimp Martin Bain demanding the reach of the Bill include chants against British Armed Forces, - stiff upper lip bullshampoo, while his club was months away from cheating itself to death - it was only ever going to be farcical. The SNP would never have dared proceed without Celtic's cooperation; Lawwell should never have agreed to support the creation of a new law when sufficient laws were in place.
I thought the idea that the SNP took their lead from Lawwell was restricted to sites like FF and SevcoMedia.

http://fansagainstcriminalisation.com/celtic-fc-calls-for-the-repeal-of-the-offensive-behaviour-act/
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Glad that the act has been binned. The whole thing was fundamentally flawed and it’s amaxing that anyone could try and argue otherwise. The idea of allowing the reprobates at Police Scotland to determine what is or isn’t offensive is laughable.
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A great victory for all involved!
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justinjest
15 Mar 2018, 11:10 PM
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15 Mar 2018, 07:15 PM
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15 Mar 2018, 06:47 PM

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Give it a rest
give what a rest?
anybody who attends CP regularly will know that there are seats available for all games, except the scum & CL games - do you see something that I don't?
Why are you going on about it? Your comment that we should only have built a 50,000 seater is stupid and nonsensical.
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