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| Supporters/Green Brigade Thread; OBFA Act Repealed | |
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| Topic Started: 15 Aug 2017, 01:23 PM (325,658 Views) | |
| Kingslim | 10 Jan 2018, 10:30 AM Post #2841 |
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| Some Bhoy | 10 Jan 2018, 11:54 AM Post #2842 |
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Just did mine, sent it to everyone on the list
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| nivek | 10 Jan 2018, 01:54 PM Post #2843 |
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Would love to email and help, but ain't a Scot so can't! |
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| Tim Bombadil | 10 Jan 2018, 02:16 PM Post #2844 |
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Getting on a bit
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Has anyone sent it to an SNP MP and had a reply? Interested to see what their stock response is I've been rubber eared so far by my SNP MSP |
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| jmhgg | 10 Jan 2018, 02:17 PM Post #2845 |
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Me too. No response. |
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| Kingslim | 10 Jan 2018, 02:18 PM Post #2846 |
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They won’t give a eff. Half of Glasgow can’t get a reply from them in regards to Equal Pay for women. Shower of useless winkers |
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| jimbhoy0507 | 10 Jan 2018, 02:24 PM Post #2847 |
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You dont need to be a scot bud am a james and it worked. |
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| Quiet Assasin | 10 Jan 2018, 02:25 PM Post #2848 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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I haven't had anything yet, but the Labour and Tory ones will be locked and loaded and ready to fire off. I've also had nothing from Patrick Harvie either. To be fair I have had some correspondence from the SNP on it before. It's pointless and mealy mouthed but I have had it before. |
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| Some Bhoy | 10 Jan 2018, 04:46 PM Post #2849 |
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I only sent mine this morning but I've already had a response from the Lib Dems up here.
He's definitely for repealing it! There were a few SNP folk on my list, if any of them reply I'll mention it here. I've emailed them about things before and they always get back to me so it'll be interesting to see if they do this time. Edited by Some Bhoy, 10 Jan 2018, 04:47 PM.
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| nivek | 10 Jan 2018, 05:58 PM Post #2850 |
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Asking for a post code to find my local MP? |
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| danbhoy09 | 10 Jan 2018, 07:08 PM Post #2851 |
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he's at it mate.
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| nivek | 10 Jan 2018, 11:42 PM Post #2852 |
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| Timmy7 | 10 Jan 2018, 11:49 PM Post #2853 |
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Done, only to my SNP constituency MSP. No point in emailing the others |
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| Kingslim | 11 Jan 2018, 10:20 AM Post #2854 |
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got a response Thank you for your email regarding the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act. I have previously campaigned for the repeal of this legislation, which I believe has targeted and criminalised football fans and seriously damaged the relationship between police and fans without tackling the root causes of sectarianism. I am a long term supporter of James Kelly’s effort to repeal this legislation and I will vote in favour of repeal when it comes before parliament. I want to tackle sectarianism through education and prevention, working with anti-sectarianism charities, churches, football authorities and fans to develop positive measures to stamp out sectarianism in Scotland. Across the political spectrum, there is agreement that sectarianism cannot be tolerated anywhere in Scotland - on or off the pitch, in our communities, schools or workplaces. This generation can be the one that stamps out sectarianism for good but there needs to be trust between the authorities and football fans and a renewed push towards tackling sectarianism in classrooms and communities. I hope this response has been helpful. Regards, Johann Lamont MSP (Glasgow Region) |
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| Kingslim | 11 Jan 2018, 10:37 AM Post #2855 |
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Another Good afternoon and thank you for getting in touch with me regarding James Kelly MSP's campaign to repeal the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012. My Scottish Labour colleagues and I welcome your support and enthusiasm. I agree with your analysis of the Act. Not only is the legislation illiberal, it fails to properly tackle sectarianism, and creates tension between police and fans. It further duplicates powers that Police already have to deal with inappropriate behaviour at football games and abuse online. The Law Society has established that all prosecutions brought forward in 2016-17 could have been captured by pre-existing legislation and that those committing religiously aggravated abuse can be prosecuted under section 74 of the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 2003 in relation to religious aggravation. Furthermore, as representations from Police Scotland have stated, more often than not, cases of threatening communications have been prosecuted using section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 rather than section 6 of the Football Act. You may be aware that the Football Act is the first ever piece of legislation to be passed without cross-party support, and has been rushed through by the SNP Government using its majority in the last Parliament. The legislation has been widely condemned by human rights groups, legal experts and fans organisations. My Scottish Labour colleagues and I believe that the place to be combating bigotry is in classrooms, not targeting loyal football fans in terraces for ninety minutes on a Saturday. The Scottish Government needs to invest in anti-sectarian initiatives and do more through education. Once again thank you for getting in touch and sharing your views. Kind regards Pauline McNeill MSP Glasgow Region |
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| tenerifetim | 11 Jan 2018, 10:44 AM Post #2856 |
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Another supportive, stock reply from Maurice Corry - nothing from SNP yet . Should have voted for Brian Donohoe !
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| Kingslim | 11 Jan 2018, 11:12 AM Post #2857 |
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I presume it will only be the opposition that will respond. |
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| Kingslim | 11 Jan 2018, 11:52 AM Post #2858 |
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Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012. First of all, let me make it clear that I consider sectarian behaviour and hate crime to be a blight on society in Scotland and it should not be tolerated under any circumstances. I do however believe there is a compelling case for the repeal of this ill-considered and badly drafted law. It is clear that pre-existing laws against ‘breach of the peace’ and ‘threatening or abusive behaviour’ already covered the types of offences that this Act was designed to tackle. The latest recorded crime statistics show that the vast majority of these crimes continue to be charged under pre-existing offences – highlighting that the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act is unnecessary. There is also considerable opposition to this law from the legal profession and stakeholders. More than 3,200 football clubs and members of the public took part in the recent consultation on the legislation and a hefty 71 per cent of respondents backed the repeal of Sections 1-5 and 62 per cent supported the repeal of Sections 6-9. A senior judge has said provisions of the Act were ‘horribly drafted’. The Law Society of Scotland have concluded that the new offence ‘does not improve’ on existing offences, and that all 287 charges brought under Section 1 of the legislation in 2015-16 ‘could have been prosecuted under pre-existing legislation’. On this basis, they said the legislation ‘has not been fundamental to tackling sectarianism’. The 2015 Morrow Report emphasises that the impact of sectarianism varies from community to community and that it is not a one-size-fits-all issue. We need an enduring change in culture and attitudes. That happens in homes, classrooms and communities. It is facilitated by the work of charities and third sector organisations such as Nil by Mouth, and we need to see and support more of that community-led activity. I believe the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act unfairly targets those civilised, law-abiding fans who simply want to enjoy Scotland’s beautiful game. For the reasons set out above, I plan to vote in favour of this Act’s repeal when next presented with the opportunity. Thank you once again for taking the time to write to me. Best wishes, Adam Tomkins MSP Conservative MSP for Glasgow Region |
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| fatboab | 11 Jan 2018, 03:46 PM Post #2859 |
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aye guys, let's get back to selling all our players. no more of the IRA stuff thanks. |
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| justinjest | 11 Jan 2018, 05:02 PM Post #2860 |
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this is the supporters / Green Brigade thread. We have been discussing the Offensive behaviour act, which is targeting our fans for singing IRA stuff - how do we discuss the bill without mentioning the IRA stuff? devilsadvocatecsc |
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