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Supporters/Green Brigade Thread; OBFA Act Repealed
Topic Started: 15 Aug 2017, 01:23 PM (325,660 Views)
tenerifetim
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If you're against the OBFA then send your complaint via this - simple to use

http://www.celtictrust.net/index.php?func=d_home_article&id=550

https://twitter.com/FACKilltheBill/status/950353052854341632
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rm1888
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tenerifetim
8 Jan 2018, 03:26 PM
Done - Only takes a minute to do
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tenerifetim
8 Jan 2018, 03:26 PM
Done :thumbsup:
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Done
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Done mine as well.
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Done, if nothing else than to hopefully waste some of that tosser Mundell's time.
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Rosco67
9 Jan 2018, 12:10 PM
Done, if nothing else than to hopefully waste some of that tosser Mundell's time.
It will be a waste of Fluffy's time. He's not an MSP ;)
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Done, thanks.
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I did it this morning and received the following from Jeremy Balfour. Seems a fair reply and a decent response. Shame, I wanted to dislike the Tory...

Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012.

Let me first make it clear at the outset that I consider sectarian behaviour and hate crime to be a blight on society in Scotland and it should not be tolerated under any circumstances. However, I do believe there is a compelling case for the repeal of this ill-considered and badly drafted law.

It is clear that pre-existing laws against ‘breach of the peace’ and ‘threatening or abusive behaviour’ already covered the types of offences that this Act was designed to tackle. The latest recorded crime statistics show that the vast majority of these crimes continue to be charged under pre-existing offences – highlighting that the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act is unnecessary.

There is also considerable opposition to this law from the legal profession and stakeholders. More than 3200 football clubs and members of the public took part in the recent consultation on the legislation and a hefty 71 per cent of respondents backed the repeal of Sections 1-5 and 62 per cent supported the repeal of Sections 6-9. A senior judge has said provisions of the Act were ‘horribly drafted’. The Law Society of Scotland have concluded that the new offence ‘does not improve’ on existing offences, and that all 287 charges brought under Section 1 of the legislation in 2015-16 ‘could have been prosecuted under pre-existing legislation’. On this basis, they said the legislation ‘has not been fundamental to tackling sectarianism’.

The 2015 Morrow report emphasises that the impact of sectarianism varies from community to community and that it is not a one-size-fits-all issue. We need an enduring change in culture and attitudes. That happens in homes, classrooms and communities. It is facilitated by the work of charities and third sector organisations such as Nil by Mouth, and we need to see and support more of that community-led activity.

I believe the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act unfairly targets those civilised, law-abiding fans who simply want to enjoy Scotland’s beautiful game. For the reasons set out above, I plan to vote in favour of this Act’s repeal when next presented with the opportunity.

Thank you once again for taking the time to write to me.

Kind regards,

Jeremy Balfour MSP
Lothian Region
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jmhgg
9 Jan 2018, 01:25 PM
I did it this morning and received the following from Jeremy Balfour. Seems a fair reply and a decent response. Shame, I wanted to dislike the Tory...

Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012.

Let me first make it clear at the outset that I consider sectarian behaviour and hate crime to be a blight on society in Scotland and it should not be tolerated under any circumstances. However, I do believe there is a compelling case for the repeal of this ill-considered and badly drafted law.

It is clear that pre-existing laws against ‘breach of the peace’ and ‘threatening or abusive behaviour’ already covered the types of offences that this Act was designed to tackle. The latest recorded crime statistics show that the vast majority of these crimes continue to be charged under pre-existing offences – highlighting that the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act is unnecessary.

There is also considerable opposition to this law from the legal profession and stakeholders. More than 3200 football clubs and members of the public took part in the recent consultation on the legislation and a hefty 71 per cent of respondents backed the repeal of Sections 1-5 and 62 per cent supported the repeal of Sections 6-9. A senior judge has said provisions of the Act were ‘horribly drafted’. The Law Society of Scotland have concluded that the new offence ‘does not improve’ on existing offences, and that all 287 charges brought under Section 1 of the legislation in 2015-16 ‘could have been prosecuted under pre-existing legislation’. On this basis, they said the legislation ‘has not been fundamental to tackling sectarianism’.

The 2015 Morrow report emphasises that the impact of sectarianism varies from community to community and that it is not a one-size-fits-all issue. We need an enduring change in culture and attitudes. That happens in homes, classrooms and communities. It is facilitated by the work of charities and third sector organisations such as Nil by Mouth, and we need to see and support more of that community-led activity.

I believe the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act unfairly targets those civilised, law-abiding fans who simply want to enjoy Scotland’s beautiful game. For the reasons set out above, I plan to vote in favour of this Act’s repeal when next presented with the opportunity.

Thank you once again for taking the time to write to me.

Kind regards,

Jeremy Balfour MSP
Lothian Region
And from our Kez. Prompt reply from our MSP’s
Good afternoon,

Thank you for contacting me about my colleague James Kelly MSPs members Bill to repeal the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act.

I am fully supportive of the repeal proposal and will be voting in support of repeal when the Bill comes before the Scottish Parliament.

I have been a long term supporter of the repeal proposal and also lodged a supportive response to the Bill at the public consultation stage. The Act has now proven itself to be both unnecessary and ineffective.

I'm in agreement with you that the act is unfair as it targets football fans while fans of other sports or other citizens would not be charged for doing the same things. It is unworkable, and a number of Sheriffs have made it clear that it is badly drafted; there is a very low conviction rate – lower than the legislation it was meant to improve on. It is also criminalising young people who would never be in court if it were not for the Act and therefore affecting their studies and their employment opportunities.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact me about this important issue.

Kind Regards,

Kezia

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I always find the argument that" existing legislation was enough" a little strange since the problem went ignored and unchallenged for decades. By all means repeal the act if it is poorly drafted but if that is the only thing that is done then the worry is that this will be seen as a green light that 'billy boys' (and stupid IRA stuff) etc is ok again.
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Stockholm87
9 Jan 2018, 01:39 PM
I always find the argument that" existing legislation was enough" a little strange since the problem went ignored and unchallenged for decades. By all means repeal the act if it is poorly drafted but if that is the only thing that is done then the worry is that this will be seen as a green light that 'billy boys' (and stupid IRA stuff) etc is ok again.
Re the stupid IRA stuff; how does that differ from the intelligent IRA stuff? You got a list of songs which are stupid and another, not-so-stupid list?
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9 Jan 2018, 02:11 PM
Stockholm87
9 Jan 2018, 01:39 PM
I always find the argument that" existing legislation was enough" a little strange since the problem went ignored and unchallenged for decades. By all means repeal the act if it is poorly drafted but if that is the only thing that is done then the worry is that this will be seen as a green light that 'billy boys' (and stupid IRA stuff) etc is ok again.
Re the stupid IRA stuff; how does that differ from the intelligent IRA stuff? You got a list of songs which are stupid and another, not-so-stupid list?
Brilliant - a rebel song debate for the winter break!!
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shugmc
9 Jan 2018, 12:19 PM
Rosco67
9 Jan 2018, 12:10 PM
Done, if nothing else than to hopefully waste some of that tosser Mundell's time.
It will be a waste of Fluffy's time. He's not an MSP ;)
Ach, he'll be a wee chuff anaw no doubt. Good enough for him.
Edited by Rosco67, 9 Jan 2018, 02:41 PM.
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Done. What a collection of wallopers the list MSPs are :lol:
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Received the same Tory reply from Annie Wells as the poster above.

Johann Lamont's reply below.

Thank you for your email regarding the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act.

I have previously campaigned for the repeal of this legislation, which I believe has targeted and criminalised football fans and seriously damaged the relationship between police and fans without tackling the root causes of sectarianism.

I am a long term supporter of James Kelly’s effort to repeal this legislation and I will vote in favour of repeal when it comes before parliament.

I want to tackle sectarianism through education and prevention, working with anti-sectarianism charities, churches, football authorities and fans to develop positive measures to stamp out sectarianism in Scotland. Across the political spectrum, there is agreement that sectarianism cannot be tolerated anywhere in Scotland - on or off the pitch, in our communities, schools or workplaces. This generation can be the one that stamps out sectarianism for good but there needs to be trust between the authorities and football fans and a renewed push towards tackling sectarianism in classrooms and communities.

I hope this response has been helpful.

Regards,

Johann Lamont MSP (Glasgow Region)
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haha! All the folk posting the MP's and MSP's replies, it was the SNP who introduced the act so of course the tories and labour are against it. Its not that they give an actual shampooe.
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obi wan wanyama
9 Jan 2018, 02:56 PM
Received the same Tory reply from Annie Wells as the poster above.

Johann Lamont's reply below.

Thank you for your email regarding the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act.

I have previously campaigned for the repeal of this legislation, which I believe has targeted and criminalised football fans and seriously damaged the relationship between police and fans without tackling the root causes of sectarianism.

I am a long term supporter of James Kelly’s effort to repeal this legislation and I will vote in favour of repeal when it comes before parliament.

I want to tackle sectarianism through education and prevention, working with anti-sectarianism charities, churches, football authorities and fans to develop positive measures to stamp out sectarianism in Scotland. Across the political spectrum, there is agreement that sectarianism cannot be tolerated anywhere in Scotland - on or off the pitch, in our communities, schools or workplaces. This generation can be the one that stamps out sectarianism for good but there needs to be trust between the authorities and football fans and a renewed push towards tackling sectarianism in classrooms and communities.

I hope this response has been helpful.

Regards,

Johann Lamont MSP (Glasgow Region)
Sectarianism within our schools? Really?
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