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Scott Brown...Celtic Great; Our Captain
Topic Started: 16 Oct 2017, 10:52 PM (26,221 Views)
IainG
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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smudgethecat
18 Oct 2017, 10:45 AM
Love Tommy as a man, but I don't think he was very good. He wouldn't make our midfield today.
:rubeyes: I think he would.
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Wilfred Benitez
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smudgethecat
18 Oct 2017, 10:45 AM
Love Tommy as a man, but I don't think he was very good. He wouldn't make our midfield today.
What?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??! :rubeyes: :rubeyes: :rubeyes: :rubeyes:

That's insane!!!

Tommy Burns was a superb player. Good enough to be admired by Johann Cruyff.

He certainly would get into our midfield today.
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IainG
18 Oct 2017, 02:19 PM
smudgethecat
18 Oct 2017, 10:45 AM
Love Tommy as a man, but I don't think he was very good. He wouldn't make our midfield today.
:rubeyes: I think he would.
Of course he would.

On the left side of the central midfield three.

I'm seriously wondering how closely people watched him when he was playing.

For a period in the early 1980s he was a simply brilliant footballer. Good enough to have Spanish teams looking at him.

He was intelligent, inventive and far more steely than I think people are recalling.
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McStay
18 Oct 2017, 10:12 AM
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17 Oct 2017, 07:29 PM
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17 Oct 2017, 03:54 PM

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Paul McStay is still one of my all time favourites but Brown is very close to redefining the number 8 jersey as his own.
What does that even mean?

Brown is better than McStay?

Brown will go down as a greater legend than McStay?

What?
As a footballing talent he's not as good as McStay, but as an influence on the team I would say he has a greater impact.
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18 Oct 2017, 04:53 PM
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18 Oct 2017, 10:12 AM
Volvic
17 Oct 2017, 07:29 PM

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What does that even mean?

Brown is better than McStay?

Brown will go down as a greater legend than McStay?

What?
As a footballing talent he's not as good as McStay, but as an influence on the team I would say he has a greater impact.
Paul McStay has a humph from carrying Celtic on his back for years.
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smudgethecat
18 Oct 2017, 10:45 AM
Love Tommy as a man, but I don't think he was very good. He wouldn't make our midfield today.
Trust me, he was a very good player.
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18 Oct 2017, 05:17 PM
smudgethecat
18 Oct 2017, 10:45 AM
Love Tommy as a man, but I don't think he was very good. He wouldn't make our midfield today.
Trust me, he was a very good player.
Agreed.

Anyone who doesn't think he was a very good player just didn't see him play or didn't know what they were looking at.

He was a very very intelligent midfielder.
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I've been critical of Brown over the years (rightly so on most occasions) but he's been an excellent captain.

Although it's maybe to be expected given his character, I don't particularly like the argument about the impact on the team when he's not playing. It doesn't reflect well on them at all that they need a leader in there to hold their hand. It was also the case when Lennon was the manager and maybe (can't be arsed checking) it was the case when Keane and Gerrard were missing for Man U and Liverpool. I dunno.

As enjoyable as he's been to watch over the last 18 months it's tinged with a 'wish someone like Rodgers had got a hold of him earlier' feeling. Strachan, Mowbray, Deila and, to a lesser extent, Lennon didn't really know how to get the best out of him.
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Stringer Bell
18 Oct 2017, 05:36 PM
I've been critical of Brown over the years (rightly so on most occasions) but he's been an excellent captain.

Although it's maybe to be expected given his character, I don't particularly like the argument about the impact on the team when he's not playing. It doesn't reflect well on them at all that they need a leader in there to hold their hand. It was also the case when Lennon was the manager and maybe (can't be arsed checking) it was the case when Keane and Gerrard were missing for Man U and Liverpool. I dunno.

As enjoyable as he's been to watch over the last 18 months it's tinged with a 'wish someone like Rodgers had got a hold of him earlier' feeling. Strachan, Mowbray, Deila and, to a lesser extent, Lennon didn't really know how to get the best out of him.
I think these players are all also great players as well as captains. So when they were not playing the team missed them from a weaker starting 11. Thats often overlooked.
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Stringer Bell
18 Oct 2017, 05:36 PM
I've been critical of Brown over the years (rightly so on most occasions) but he's been an excellent captain.

Although it's maybe to be expected given his character, I don't particularly like the argument about the impact on the team when he's not playing. It doesn't reflect well on them at all that they need a leader in there to hold their hand. It was also the case when Lennon was the manager and maybe (can't be arsed checking) it was the case when Keane and Gerrard were missing for Man U and Liverpool. I dunno.

As enjoyable as he's been to watch over the last 18 months it's tinged with a 'wish someone like Rodgers had got a hold of him earlier' feeling. Strachan, Mowbray, Deila and, to a lesser extent, Lennon didn't really know how to get the best out of him.
Was it not Lennon who really started to get the best out of SB?

Previously, SB was often criticised for lacking positional discipline (and discipline in general).

NL gave him a clear role and got him to stick to that. Though he also said that he didn't want to take the 'devil' out of him.

At least that's how I remember it.

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van Doesburg
18 Oct 2017, 05:54 PM
Stringer Bell
18 Oct 2017, 05:36 PM
I've been critical of Brown over the years (rightly so on most occasions) but he's been an excellent captain.

Although it's maybe to be expected given his character, I don't particularly like the argument about the impact on the team when he's not playing. It doesn't reflect well on them at all that they need a leader in there to hold their hand. It was also the case when Lennon was the manager and maybe (can't be arsed checking) it was the case when Keane and Gerrard were missing for Man U and Liverpool. I dunno.

As enjoyable as he's been to watch over the last 18 months it's tinged with a 'wish someone like Rodgers had got a hold of him earlier' feeling. Strachan, Mowbray, Deila and, to a lesser extent, Lennon didn't really know how to get the best out of him.
Was it not Lennon who really started to get the best out of SB?

Previously, SB was often criticised for lacking positional discipline (and discipline in general).

NL gave him a clear role and got him to stick to that. Though he also said that he didn't want to take the 'devil' out of him.

At least that's how I remember it.

He spent most of Lennons first season playing RM, did well but it was then he was really starting to look like a leader, he's got better at it every season since.
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18 Oct 2017, 05:32 PM
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18 Oct 2017, 05:17 PM
smudgethecat
18 Oct 2017, 10:45 AM
Love Tommy as a man, but I don't think he was very good. He wouldn't make our midfield today.
Trust me, he was a very good player.
Agreed.

Anyone who doesn't think he was a very good player just didn't see him play or didn't know what they were looking at.

He was a very very intelligent midfielder.
Was thinking the same.
TB was a great player and would deffo get in our starting 11.
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Stringer Bell
18 Oct 2017, 05:36 PM
I've been critical of Brown over the years (rightly so on most occasions)
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Outstanding tonight. His lack of mentions in the Motm thread is beyond belief.
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Larbertbhoy
18 Oct 2017, 10:13 PM
Outstanding tonight. His lack of mentions in the Motm thread is beyond belief.
That's because I haven't posted in it.

He was the only one who showed any courage at all. He was very good in the first half but tired towards the end of the game and got a bit sloppy. Still outperformed anyone else in the team.
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Larbertbhoy
18 Oct 2017, 10:13 PM
Outstanding tonight. His lack of mentions in the Motm thread is beyond belief.
No one was outstanding in a Celtic jersey tonight.

Thought Brown was sluggish as eff, gave the ball away in threatening positions a few times. It can be forgiven due to his injury lay off though. Don’t think he was 100%.
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i love broonie which makes me really worried in a few years time of when he decides to call it quits who will step into his shoes we might not get another broonie. :( KT is still young so maybe he can fill his shoes in the next few years
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He was effing immense tonight. A true Celtic captain's performance against top class opposition and practically on his own in the middle.
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Haitch
18 Oct 2017, 10:19 PM
Larbertbhoy
18 Oct 2017, 10:13 PM
Outstanding tonight. His lack of mentions in the Motm thread is beyond belief.
No one was outstanding in a Celtic jersey tonight.

Thought Brown was sluggish as eff, gave the ball away in threatening positions a few times. It can be forgiven due to his injury lay off though. Don’t think he was 100%.
Really. Sluggish as eff ? Utter tripe if you don't mind me saying so. He was the only one looking for the ball, was breaking up more attacks than anyone else, and his passing was better tha most.

If he was sluggish towards the end it was because he was knackered doing a lot of the work Ntcham and Armstrong were meant to be doing.
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Larbertbhoy
18 Oct 2017, 10:13 PM
Outstanding tonight. His lack of mentions in the Motm thread is beyond belief.
its not really, he wasnt pish tonight but didnt exactly do anything of note either.
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