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Scott Brown...Celtic Great; Our Captain
Topic Started: 16 Oct 2017, 10:52 PM (26,222 Views)
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17 Oct 2017, 04:18 PM

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Genuine question, what's the difference between the spellings?
Read on the wiki that Cesar refers to Cesar Romero, this was Billy McNeill's nickname because he was the only player who owned a car at one point.
He mentioned this in his book too.
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17 Oct 2017, 09:06 AM
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16 Oct 2017, 11:11 PM
Roy Aitken a great player.

Hmmm.

Romance aside, it isn't even close. TB is the only player from those mentioned whose ability would be comparable to Scott Brown. I know it's subjective, but struggling to think what the criteria would be overall that doesn't have SB miles ahead.
You mentioned Aitken and ignored Grant and Boyd?... :twitch:
Someone else had already mentioned Grant. ;)

And I can't be arsed with the Tom Boyd one. :lol:
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17 Oct 2017, 06:55 PM
herbert viola
17 Oct 2017, 09:06 AM
idyllwild
16 Oct 2017, 11:11 PM
Roy Aitken a great player.

Hmmm.

Romance aside, it isn't even close. TB is the only player from those mentioned whose ability would be comparable to Scott Brown. I know it's subjective, but struggling to think what the criteria would be overall that doesn't have SB miles ahead.
You mentioned Aitken and ignored Grant and Boyd?... :twitch:
Someone else had already mentioned Grant. ;)

And I can't be arsed with the Tom Boyd one. :lol:
Oh go on :lol:
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Read on the wiki that Cesar refers to Cesar Romero, this was Billy McNeill's nickname because he was the only player who owned a car at one point.
He mentioned this in his book too.
Yep. Pretty much everyone, excluding Bobbybhoy acknowledges it is Cesar, even Billy himself telling the story in his book about how he is Cesar and not Caesar isn't enough for Bob.
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17 Oct 2017, 04:21 PM
He's been a great player for us, and an even better Captain.

Is he one of the best players ever?
No, but that doesn't make him average.
He's arguably been a far, far, better captain than he has been player.

He'd be nowhere near a best ever team and no shame in that, and as you say, that doesn't make him average. He'd be in a team of the last 10 years, but probably not a team of the last 20 years.

When he does retire, in terms of longevity, trophies won and appearances made he'll be up there with the very best, and behind only McNeill in terms of all that stuff as captain (I think?), which will be a pretty incredible achievement.
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He mentioned this in his book too.
Yep. Pretty much everyone, excluding Bobbybhoy acknowledges it is Cesar, even Billy himself telling the story in his book about how he is Cesar and not Caesar isn't enough for Bob.
And the book is also titled "Hail Cesar" :lol: :thumbsup:
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Cesar.
Genuine question, what's the difference between the spellings?
Eh?
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That was the joke :ph43r:
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Respectfully he's not able to lace Danny McGrain's boots as a captain, or Tommy Burns' as a player.
Disagree, he's every bit as vital to this Celtic side as Danny was to his ( maybe moreso) and is every bit as influential a Captain.

I also believe he is a better player than Tommy was, I know that may not go down well and I love TB as much as any Celtic fan but I think it's misty eyed romanticism to say Brown couldn't lace his boots.


McGrain was a far better player than both.
Over the whole Brown has been average.

Tommy Burns was a far, far better footballer than Scott Brown.
I would disagree with that. TB was a fine midfielder but in the past 20 years we've had better left sided players Collins, Thompson and Naka.
In terms of drive, influence and mentality few in that time come close to Brown, he's a force of nature and underrated for his technique, there aren't many players who even dream up let alone execute that drag back at Ibrox recently.
Paul McStay is still one of my all time favourites but Brown is very close to redefining the number 8 jersey as his own.
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A?
That was the joke :ph43r:
I didn't give you enough credit and wanted to be sure :lol:
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Scott Brown was widely derided on this forum before Rodgers arrived.

His win ratio at Celtic must be something unbelievable tho. For years now it's been fairly easy to predict... Brown plays, we win. Outstanding player over the piece.
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Scott Brown was widely derided on this forum before Rodgers arrived.

There were certainly a few but I wouldn't say it was widely.
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Brown's good but until he can point at team-mates then, and only then, will he be as good as Peter Grant.
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If I had to sum up Scott Brown in one word it would be....influential.

We have had far better players and better captains but probably nobody with as much influence on our play.
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17 Oct 2017, 08:03 PM
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17 Oct 2017, 07:42 PM
Scott Brown was widely derided on this forum before Rodgers arrived.

There were certainly a few but I wouldn't say it was widely.
He was and rightly so at the time. He was the best player in Scotland in 14/15 then really bad in 15/16. He looked done, didn't start last season well either then after Hapoel at home he was superb. Now he bosses every game he plays.
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Over the whole Brown has been average.

Tommy Burns was a far, far better footballer than Scott Brown.
I would disagree with that. TB was a fine midfielder but in the past 20 years we've had better left sided players Collins, Thompson and Naka.
In terms of drive, influence and mentality few in that time come close to Brown, he's a force of nature and underrated for his technique, there aren't many players who even dream up let alone execute that drag back at Ibrox recently.
Paul McStay is still one of my all time favourites but Brown is very close to redefining the number 8 jersey as his own.
Entitled to your opinion obviously :thumbsup:

In terms of drive, influence and mentality, not many were up there with Tommy Burns, and both McStay and Burns were much, much better footballers.
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Over the whole Brown has been average.

Tommy Burns was a far, far better footballer than Scott Brown.
Paul McStay is still one of my all time favourites but Brown is very close to redefining the number 8 jersey as his own.
What does that even mean?

Brown is better than McStay?

Brown will go down as a greater legend than McStay?

What?
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17 Oct 2017, 07:29 PM
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17 Oct 2017, 03:54 PM
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17 Oct 2017, 02:06 PM

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Over the whole Brown has been average.

Tommy Burns was a far, far better footballer than Scott Brown.
I would disagree with that. TB was a fine midfielder but in the past 20 years we've had better left sided players Collins, Thompson and Naka.
In terms of drive, influence and mentality few in that time come close to Brown, he's a force of nature and underrated for his technique, there aren't many players who even dream up let alone execute that drag back at Ibrox recently.
Paul McStay is still one of my all time favourites but Brown is very close to redefining the number 8 jersey as his own.
I'm sorry. I absolutely loved Alan Thompson. A complete hunskelper, but Tommy Burns was far far better.

I'd suggest he was better than John Collins too. I'd certainly have him on the left of my midfield in the best Celtic team I've watched.

Naka, maybe not. But Naka was switched sides by Strachan.
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Love Tommy as a man, but I don't think he was very good. He wouldn't make our midfield today.
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