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Odsonne Édouard - AKA the Remy ITK thread; Fishal. 4 Year Deal.
Topic Started: 30 Aug 2017, 10:35 PM (392,819 Views)
sevilliano
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Get him signed - we will never lose money on him, he'll get better and better

Where is video of him dembele and ntcham in car post ibrox - still to see it 😢
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Sounds like brendan is pushing for him to be signed
And it's less than what's been reported. Good news.
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If the bhoy is available for less than €7m (I thought the fee was £7m) then it's the no-brainer of no-brainers! Wages could still be a stumbling block, though.

Edit: Having read another transcript of Brendan's interview, it might be that the asking fee is more than €7m! It can be read either way. We're going to have to wait and see. :pray:
Edited by Torquemada, 22 Mar 2018, 09:54 AM.
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Must be a match against Sevco coming up in the next week or so. Rags reporting today that he will be going to Vitoria Guimaraes in Portugal
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8 Apr 2018, 07:31 AM
Must be a match against Sevco coming up in the next week or so. Rags reporting today that he will be going to Vitoria Guimaraes in Portugal
The reasoning seems to be PSG and Vitoria Guimaraes are trying to set up a partnership.

Totally discounting the fact that Celtic have already agreed to sign him at the end of the loan deal if we want.
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8 Apr 2018, 08:39 AM
atalan
8 Apr 2018, 07:31 AM
Must be a match against Sevco coming up in the next week or so. Rags reporting today that he will be going to Vitoria Guimaraes in Portugal
The reasoning seems to be PSG and Vitoria Guimaraes are trying to set up a partnership.

Totally discounting the fact that Celtic have already agreed to sign him at the end of the loan deal if we want.
There could he all sort of conditions with regards to that deal. It's not going to be solely our call.

He still hasn't proved to me that the money couldn't be a lot better spent elsewhere regardless.
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8 Apr 2018, 09:42 AM
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8 Apr 2018, 08:39 AM
atalan
8 Apr 2018, 07:31 AM
Must be a match against Sevco coming up in the next week or so. Rags reporting today that he will be going to Vitoria Guimaraes in Portugal
The reasoning seems to be PSG and Vitoria Guimaraes are trying to set up a partnership.

Totally discounting the fact that Celtic have already agreed to sign him at the end of the loan deal if we want.
There could he all sort of conditions with regards to that deal. It's not going to be solely our call.

He still hasn't proved to me that the money couldn't be a lot better spent elsewhere regardless.
“There is a clause in the deal. The clause is there and there’s been an agreement - but we would need to trigger the fee."

Brendan Rodgers

I took this as if we trigger the fee everything has been agreed.
Edited by Ste, 8 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM.
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Bobby Peru
8 Apr 2018, 09:42 AM
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8 Apr 2018, 08:39 AM
atalan
8 Apr 2018, 07:31 AM
Must be a match against Sevco coming up in the next week or so. Rags reporting today that he will be going to Vitoria Guimaraes in Portugal
The reasoning seems to be PSG and Vitoria Guimaraes are trying to set up a partnership.

Totally discounting the fact that Celtic have already agreed to sign him at the end of the loan deal if we want.
There could he all sort of conditions with regards to that deal. It's not going to be solely our call.

He still hasn't proved to me that the money couldn't be a lot better spent elsewhere regardless.
Wouldn’t be too surprised if our interest in signing OE permanently is dependent on whether Dembele goes or not.
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8 Apr 2018, 09:42 AM
Ste
8 Apr 2018, 08:39 AM

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There could he all sort of conditions with regards to that deal. It's not going to be solely our call.

He still hasn't proved to me that the money couldn't be a lot better spent elsewhere regardless.
“There is a clause in the deal. The clause is there and there’s been an agreement - but we would need to trigger the fee."

Brendan Rodgers
What if he doesn’t want to come?
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8 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM
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8 Apr 2018, 09:42 AM

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“There is a clause in the deal. The clause is there and there’s been an agreement - but we would need to trigger the fee."

Brendan Rodgers
What if he doesn’t want to come?
He's here, isn't he?

I could be wrong but how many transfers like this where the club trigger the fee does the player not sign? I'd imagine if you are setting the fee you'd be setting the contract with the player as well otherwise whats the point? Kinda like the 1 year contract extension if the club want it at the end of contracts you often see.
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Ste
8 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM

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What if he doesn’t want to come?
He's here, isn't he?

I could be wrong but how many transfers like this where the club trigger the fee does the player not sign? I'd imagine if you are setting the fee you'd be setting the contract with the player as well otherwise whats the point? Kinda like the 1 year contract extension if the club want it at the end of contracts you often see.
He is, but there’s quite a big difference between being willing to come on loan and being willing to sign permanently. Roberts is probably a great example.

Either way, while the story about him joining VG may or may not be a lot of shampooe, the fact that we’ve got a pre-agreed fee for him really doesn’t have any bearing on how likely he might be to sign for someone else. Any club in the world could match our fee (or just agree another price themselves) offer him more than us and he’d be going there.

Edit - as far as I’m aware, contract extensions are much different as they can be triggered by either party whether the other party likes it or not.

Edited by Stephane_Mahe, 8 Apr 2018, 10:05 AM.
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There could he all sort of conditions with regards to that deal. It's not going to be solely our call.

He still hasn't proved to me that the money couldn't be a lot better spent elsewhere regardless.
“There is a clause in the deal. The clause is there and there’s been an agreement - but we would need to trigger the fee."

Brendan Rodgers

I took this as if we trigger the fee everything has been agreed.
So if he doesn't want to commit permanently are we just going to kidnap him?
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8 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM
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8 Apr 2018, 09:42 AM

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“There is a clause in the deal. The clause is there and there’s been an agreement - but we would need to trigger the fee."

Brendan Rodgers

I took this as if we trigger the fee everything has been agreed.
So if he doesn't want to commit permanently are we just going to kidnap him?
The idea would be that his permanent commitment would already be agreed.

And if that is the case then aye, we'll essentially kidnap him if we want him.
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8 Apr 2018, 10:41 AM
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8 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM

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So if he doesn't want to commit permanently are we just going to kidnap him?
The idea would be that his permanent commitment would already be agreed.

And if that is the case then aye, we'll essentially kidnap him if we want him.
If that was the case you’d think we’d probably know it and it seems unlikely that Rodgers would be saying things like this:

“Of course, we would need to trigger the fee but there is a lot to do in it as well, in terms of that sort of relationship and the bigger picture stuff.”
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8 Apr 2018, 10:06 AM

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The idea would be that his permanent commitment would already be agreed.

And if that is the case then aye, we'll essentially kidnap him if we want him.
If that was the case you’d think we’d probably know it and it seems unlikely that Rodgers would be saying things like this:

“Of course, we would need to trigger the fee but there is a lot to do in it as well, in terms of that sort of relationship and the bigger picture stuff.”
Possibly.

I can't remember ever hearing about a players fee being triggered and the deal not going through though. I'm sure it probably has happened mind you.
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8 Apr 2018, 10:41 AM

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If that was the case you’d think we’d probably know it and it seems unlikely that Rodgers would be saying things like this:

“Of course, we would need to trigger the fee but there is a lot to do in it as well, in terms of that sort of relationship and the bigger picture stuff.”
Possibly.

I can't remember ever hearing about a players fee being triggered and the deal not going through though. I'm sure it probably has happened mind you.
Arsenal triggered Jamie Vardy’s release clause just after Leicester won the league. He turned them down. Obviously he wasn’t on loan to them but the same principle applies: the player has the power to say no regardless of what the clubs have ageeed. I’m still on the fence with Edouard. He’s got quality but £7 million for a guy who’s essentially still our third choice striker isn’t an obvious move. Suspect we’ll try to drive the fee down considerably.
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8 Apr 2018, 10:48 AM

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Possibly.

I can't remember ever hearing about a players fee being triggered and the deal not going through though. I'm sure it probably has happened mind you.
Arsenal triggered Jamie Vardy’s release clause just after Leicester won the league. He turned them down. Obviously he wasn’t on loan to them but the same principle applies: the player has the power to say no regardless of what the clubs have ageeed. I’m still on the fence with Edouard. He’s got quality but £7 million for a guy who’s essentially still our third choice striker isn’t an obvious move. Suspect we’ll try to drive the fee down considerably.
I think the situations are different.

My understanding is that the deal gets done and everything gets agreed and if we club activate the release clause at any time during the loan period the deal is done. Isn't that essentially what happened with Boruc?

Rodgers has already said that it isn't £7m. It's a lot cheaper than that apparently.

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There could he all sort of conditions with regards to that deal. It's not going to be solely our call.

He still hasn't proved to me that the money couldn't be a lot better spent elsewhere regardless.
“There is a clause in the deal. The clause is there and there’s been an agreement - but we would need to trigger the fee."

Brendan Rodgers

I took this as if we trigger the fee everything has been agreed.
Apparently PSG can veto it, if they wish.
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8 Apr 2018, 10:48 AM

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Possibly.

I can't remember ever hearing about a players fee being triggered and the deal not going through though. I'm sure it probably has happened mind you.
Arsenal triggered Jamie Vardy’s release clause just after Leicester won the league. He turned them down. Obviously he wasn’t on loan to them but the same principle applies: the player has the power to say no regardless of what the clubs have ageeed. I’m still on the fence with Edouard. He’s got quality but £7 million for a guy who’s essentially still our third choice striker isn’t an obvious move. Suspect we’ll try to drive the fee down considerably.
He can play various positions which is the most attractive thing for Brendan.
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Arsenal triggered Jamie Vardy’s release clause just after Leicester won the league. He turned them down. Obviously he wasn’t on loan to them but the same principle applies: the player has the power to say no regardless of what the clubs have ageeed. I’m still on the fence with Edouard. He’s got quality but £7 million for a guy who’s essentially still our third choice striker isn’t an obvious move. Suspect we’ll try to drive the fee down considerably.
I think the situations are different.

My understanding is that the deal gets done and everything gets agreed and if we club activate the release clause at any time during the loan period the deal is done. Isn't that essentially what happened with Boruc?

Rodgers has already said that it isn't £7m. It's a lot cheaper than that apparently.

Even if that was the case - and I’d be surprised if the player has no say in his own future - it would be pretty daft to sign someone against their will. Don’t think that’s likely to be the case here anyway; Edouard clearly has no future at PSG and you’ve got assume if he’s settled here then there’s every chance he’ll want to stay.
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