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Odsonne Édouard - AKA the Remy ITK thread; Fishal. 4 Year Deal.
Topic Started: 30 Aug 2017, 10:35 PM (392,822 Views)
stevie21
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I'm still unsure if the guy is an actual player, but he just has...something...KEEP.
Wtf do people need to witness before they're convinced by something?
He has great qualities, scored a stunner yesterday and will have a successful career. Whether he's good enough to replace Dembele who has shone domestically and in the CL is another matter. That's still unproven.

He's looking more impressive all the time though.
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amazing goal today but

Can't see him being our record signing at £7 Million for a kid with very limited game time so far


he has done well since the turn of the year when given the chance, but unless he plays 90mins from here until the end of the season - highly unlikely given Moussa's return to form and the soon to be recovery from Griffiths - unless Brendan had a total change of heart of playing one up top.

Not sure how long his psg contract has to go but could see us trying to get him on loan for a further 12 months as there is no way he is getting near the psg first team at this stage.
Are you serious? Like really?? Another years loan,not a chance of PSG accepting that,he proved today the occasion doesnt faze him,we either do the deal (which i think we will) or some other vulture will buy him. This fella (as i have said since his debut) has some wonderful attributes.
Yes I am serious, like really serious

It was a wonderful goal yesterday

but he has never played a game for PSG

played 16 games on loan at Toulouse last season - not sure how many he actually started.

I think he has started around 6 - 8 games for us mainly due to Moussa and Leigh being injured at various stages of the season and the rest have been coming off the bench.






if only we had a precedent for signing a very promising youngster from a very cash rich club on 2 consecutive loan deals.


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12 Mar 2018, 09:54 AM
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12 Mar 2018, 02:54 AM
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11 Mar 2018, 07:50 PM
amazing goal today but

Can't see him being our record signing at £7 Million for a kid with very limited game time so far


he has done well since the turn of the year when given the chance, but unless he plays 90mins from here until the end of the season - highly unlikely given Moussa's return to form and the soon to be recovery from Griffiths - unless Brendan had a total change of heart of playing one up top.

Not sure how long his psg contract has to go but could see us trying to get him on loan for a further 12 months as there is no way he is getting near the psg first team at this stage.
Are you serious? Like really?? Another years loan,not a chance of PSG accepting that,he proved today the occasion doesnt faze him,we either do the deal (which i think we will) or some other vulture will buy him. This fella (as i have said since his debut) has some wonderful attributes.
Yes I am serious, like really serious

It was a wonderful goal yesterday

but he has never played a game for PSG

played 16 games on loan at Toulouse last season - not sure how many he actually started.

I think he has started around 6 - 8 games for us mainly due to Moussa and Leigh being injured at various stages of the season and the rest have been coming off the bench.






if only we had a precedent for signing a very promising youngster from a very cash rich club on 2 consecutive loan deals.


He's never played a game for PSG, because he was 17/18 years old last time he was there (the 2015/16 season) and their strikers that year were named Ibrahimovic and Cavani. The following season we went to Toulouse, still only 18/19 years old, made 16 appearances but in terms of minutes played that only worked out at as around 7.5 full games.

He was basically a youth player. Still is in fact, having only turned 20 in January. He's shown more than enough since joining to warrant signing him on a permanent basis in my opinion.

Yes it's expensive by our standards, but these are the prices that we need to pay sometimes in order to attempt to keep up with our European opponents. We can't afford too many quality players who are already well-established, that's why we have to take the occasional punt on guys like Benyu (remember him?) and that's why we have to sign the genuine quality ones like Edouard when we have a chance.

Also, I hate the whole thing of slavering over what players are worth, but if the reported agreed fee of £7m is correct, then I think he's shown enough to suggest that we'd make a decent return on that fee as and when we sell him.

EDIT - re your point of agreeing a new loan deal, yes we could do that but what if PSG up the agreed signing fee at the end of the new loan to an amount that's beyond our reach?
Edited by SaMule, 12 Mar 2018, 10:13 AM.
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We'd make the £7m back on him. We might not.

Get him signed up. He who dares Rodney.
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Make him train with the reserves to drive his value down.
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Cant believe folk still don't want him signed. Anyone could name £7m worth of strikers if not more we've bought over the years he's already better than with bags of potential there too.
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11 Mar 2018, 07:50 PM
amazing goal today but

Can't see him being our record signing at £7 Million for a kid with very limited game time so far


he has done well since the turn of the year when given the chance, but unless he plays 90mins from here until the end of the season - highly unlikely given Moussa's return to form and the soon to be recovery from Griffiths - unless Brendan had a total change of heart of playing one up top.

Not sure how long his psg contract has to go but could see us trying to get him on loan for a further 12 months as there is no way he is getting near the psg first team at this stage.
Are you serious? Like really?? Another years loan,not a chance of PSG accepting that,he proved today the occasion doesnt faze him,we either do the deal (which i think we will) or some other vulture will buy him. This fella (as i have said since his debut) has some wonderful attributes.
Yes I am serious, like really serious

It was a wonderful goal yesterday

but he has never played a game for PSG

played 16 games on loan at Toulouse last season - not sure how many he actually started.

I think he has started around 6 - 8 games for us mainly due to Moussa and Leigh being injured at various stages of the season and the rest have been coming off the bench.






if only we had a precedent for signing a very promising youngster from a very cash rich club on 2 consecutive loan deals.


My own view is that Roberts on a permanent deal was never a goer at any stage,the loans were as good as we were going to get.This is different,Brendan/the club done their homework on Edouard which is why the option to make the loan permanent was negotiated in the first place.I have said repeatedly in this thread since he joined that the fee is not an issue for me,others have said too,we have the money and we've wasted enough £2m fees on donkeys,get it done,we've seen enough.

If you have watched the player and dont rate him fair enough,a fan's interpretation of a player's quality or otherwise is an entirely personal viewpoint.

My mind is made up,this fella is going places and reckon we can make some serious cash off him after two successful seasons here.Exactly the type of deal we should be making.Dembele's £500k cross border technicality transfer was a one off,sometimes you need to pay.
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I am convinced that because he has such an awkward looking run with and without the ball it makes him look less of a player than he actually is.

Getting better all the time and technically very good. It is a fair old outlay to get him permanently but I really rate the lad and think he would thrive being here on a permanent deal from next season.
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I dont care what it costs. Buy him. Buy him now.
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He looks like he plays best as part of a two-man attack, not as lone striker. Remains to be seen if that's the way Rodgers wants to play from the start of games so I'm not sure the club will want to spend £7m on a sub.
Definitely got something though.
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I'm now of the opinion we should sign him. Dembele will probably be off, which will mean more game time for him. With a run of matches he can only get even better.
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stevie21
12 Mar 2018, 09:48 AM
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12 Mar 2018, 02:14 AM
I'm still unsure if the guy is an actual player, but he just has...something...KEEP.
Wtf do people need to witness before they're convinced by something?
He has great qualities, scored a stunner yesterday and will have a successful career. Whether he's good enough to replace Dembele who has shone domestically and in the CL is another matter. That's still unproven.

He's looking more impressive all the time though.
Dembele's a once-in-a-decade player if we're lucky. Very unlikely we will be able to 'replace' him.

Edouard should be judged purely on his own merits. And I think he's shown more than enough to be signed up full time.
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12 Mar 2018, 10:28 AM
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12 Mar 2018, 02:54 AM

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Yes I am serious, like really serious

It was a wonderful goal yesterday

but he has never played a game for PSG

played 16 games on loan at Toulouse last season - not sure how many he actually started.

I think he has started around 6 - 8 games for us mainly due to Moussa and Leigh being injured at various stages of the season and the rest have been coming off the bench.






if only we had a precedent for signing a very promising youngster from a very cash rich club on 2 consecutive loan deals.


My own view is that Roberts on a permanent deal was never a goer at any stage,the loans were as good as we were going to get.This is different,Brendan/the club done their homework on Edouard which is why the option to make the loan permanent was negotiated in the first place.I have said repeatedly in this thread since he joined that the fee is not an issue for me,others have said too,we have the money and we've wasted enough £2m fees on donkeys,get it done,we've seen enough.

If you have watched the player and dont rate him fair enough,a fan's interpretation of a player's quality or otherwise is an entirely personal viewpoint.

My mind is made up,this fella is going places and reckon we can make some serious cash off him after two successful seasons here.Exactly the type of deal we should be making.Dembele's £500k cross border technicality transfer was a one off,sometimes you need to pay.
For what it is worth


I think he looks a very promising player and the goal yesterday was fantastic

but he has had very limited game time domestically and practically zero in Europe


Given our previous for spending cash I will be very surprised if we break our transfer record on signing him.

If we break our transfer record I just think it will be on someone more experienced and proven at European level.




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My own view is that Roberts on a permanent deal was never a goer at any stage,the loans were as good as we were going to get.This is different,Brendan/the club done their homework on Edouard which is why the option to make the loan permanent was negotiated in the first place.I have said repeatedly in this thread since he joined that the fee is not an issue for me,others have said too,we have the money and we've wasted enough £2m fees on donkeys,get it done,we've seen enough.

If you have watched the player and dont rate him fair enough,a fan's interpretation of a player's quality or otherwise is an entirely personal viewpoint.

My mind is made up,this fella is going places and reckon we can make some serious cash off him after two successful seasons here.Exactly the type of deal we should be making.Dembele's £500k cross border technicality transfer was a one off,sometimes you need to pay.
For what it is worth


I think he looks a very promising player and the goal yesterday was fantastic

but he has had very limited game time domestically and practically zero in Europe


Given our previous for spending cash I will be very surprised if we break our transfer record on signing him.

If we break our transfer record I just think it will be on someone more experienced and proven at European level.




you don't get an experienced striker proven at European level for £7m. you're looking at £15-20m at least.

Rodgers has now came out and said he is one of the best young talents he has worked with. This deal will happen, or we'll do all we can to make it happen just as we did with Roberts last summer.
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£7m represents our next step up surely on the development strategy of developing young players to sell for profit . Surely that strategy , if profitable enables us to bring in better and better players via the profits . Given the spiralling player values in England , he’s already going to be turning heads . It’s a no brainer at this stage. Has real quality and an attitude , work ethic to match .
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For what it is worth


I think he looks a very promising player and the goal yesterday was fantastic

but he has had very limited game time domestically and practically zero in Europe


Given our previous for spending cash I will be very surprised if we break our transfer record on signing him.

If we break our transfer record I just think it will be on someone more experienced and proven at European level.




you don't get an experienced striker proven at European level for £7m. you're looking at £15-20m at least.

Rodgers has now came out and said he is one of the best young talents he has worked with. This deal will happen, or we'll do all we can to make it happen just as we did with Roberts last summer.
You're talking Morelos money...
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I think the £7million would be more of a no-brainer if he was a ready-made replacement for Moussa. The fact is they are different types of players, and seem to bring out the best in each other. Eddie's best games have come playing off Moussa or Griffiths, whereas he's been hot and cold as the lone striker.

There's no rush. He's done enough to be a starter from now until the summer and we can go from there. If he keeps this up, it'll be an absolute steal.
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I said right at the start there is no way we're paying 7mill for anyone. I still think that

I hope I'm wrong

This kid has all the tools and rodgers can get more out of him

A year to settle, sell moussa, Eddie as first choice. Put it this way... we won't lose money on him
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We wanted to.
I wanted to rattle Pamela Anderson in the 90s. Didnt happen.
Your point being the intent was there. We wanted to buy Paddy but City refused.
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Cant believe folk still don't want him signed. Anyone could name £7m worth of strikers if not more we've bought over the years he's already better than with bags of potential there too.
That would apply to most anyone though! :lol: :cry:
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