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Odsonne Édouard - AKA the Remy ITK thread; Fishal. 4 Year Deal.
Topic Started: 30 Aug 2017, 10:35 PM (392,848 Views)
tumbal
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Could he play in the 10 role instead of McGregor at the moment?
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I am guilty of assuming he would be similar type of player to Dembele, leading the line, playing with his back to goal and roughing up defenders.

The second half showed he might be more suited to dropping off and seems to have the eye for a through ball, playing a couple with a nice weight to them.

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tumbal
24 Jan 2018, 12:55 PM
Could he play in the 10 role instead of McGregor at the moment?
I don't think he would be suited to that role.
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Rodgers thought he was brilliant and it isnt the first time he's thrown words like that about re: Edouard.

I think we'll try and make the move permanent but not at the fees quoted.
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Greenock_Celt
24 Jan 2018, 12:42 PM
Forza
24 Jan 2018, 12:31 PM
Greenock_Celt
24 Jan 2018, 12:13 PM

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Griffiths was not available at the weekend due to an ankle issue. He was never going to play 90 last night.

The game lasts 90 minutes. The fact we were 1-0 down was due to a mistake by our second most experienced player.

We won the game having changed the system, and Edouard played 85 minutes, improving in the second half, where he seemed to suit his role better against a deep lying defence.

He'll be better for that rather than being hooked at half time as a bit of a scapegoat. It's simply better management of a younger player.
The weekend game was a cup game against lower league opposition, that I mentioned I have no issue with starting a player like Edouard in.

He was never going to play 90 mins... just the 85? :lol:

The fact we had to bring on Griffiths and change our system in the 2nd half proves my point, we were struggling with Edouard as our main striker and I doubt many people were confident we'd get the goals needed to win the match without bringing on one or both of Griffiths and Dembele.

We got to the winter break not playing the best of football, I don't think having a 19 year old loan striker lead our attack in the first league game back after that break was the right decision, something Rodgers obviously agreed with since he made the necessary change at half time.

Edit to add: I never said Edouard should be made the scapegoat for the first half, it is the manager who picks the line up and he got it wrong with starting Edouard leading the attack, something he rightly changed at half time.
Griffiths. Griffiths was never going to play the 90. Not Edouard. So I could see why he started Edouard, and I could see why he changed it at half time.

He took off Lustig at half time, not Edouard. Lustig, our vice captain. It kind of indicates to me he didn't (rightly) see Edouard as the primary issue. We got more support up top and won the game having adopted a different formation.

We won and Edouard got game time in a competitive match to learn from, and the manager to make more an assessment of him playing in a slightly different role. That's good management for me.

I'd be a bit happier in that knowledge as opposed to having berthed a 19 year old lad at half time because we were behind, when the mistakes were largely made elsewhere.
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Better running past/from people than taking them on

First touch isn't good enough for him to play upfront and link up the play on his own

There are some qualities in him, not enough for £8m atm

IF/when Dembele and Griffiths are fit, he should be 3rd choice
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DKB
24 Jan 2018, 01:28 PM
Better running past/from people than taking them on

First touch isn't good enough for him to play upfront and link up the play on his own

There are some qualities in him, not enough for £8m atm

IF/when Dembele and Griffiths are fit, he should be 3rd choice
I think it’s more about his concentration.

He’s definitely got the ability
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Don't see the numpty some seem to - he's obviously raw and no seven million worth, but he'll end up a good player.
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tumbal
24 Jan 2018, 12:55 PM
Could he play in the 10 role instead of McGregor at the moment?
He played a few balls through their defence last night and would be able to hold it up better than McGregor. Playing him just off Griffiths in a 4-4-2 is probably our best bet for now though.
Edited by popeyed, 24 Jan 2018, 01:40 PM.
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Forza
24 Jan 2018, 01:22 PM
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24 Jan 2018, 12:42 PM
Forza
24 Jan 2018, 12:31 PM

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The weekend game was a cup game against lower league opposition, that I mentioned I have no issue with starting a player like Edouard in.

He was never going to play 90 mins... just the 85? :lol:

The fact we had to bring on Griffiths and change our system in the 2nd half proves my point, we were struggling with Edouard as our main striker and I doubt many people were confident we'd get the goals needed to win the match without bringing on one or both of Griffiths and Dembele.

We got to the winter break not playing the best of football, I don't think having a 19 year old loan striker lead our attack in the first league game back after that break was the right decision, something Rodgers obviously agreed with since he made the necessary change at half time.

Edit to add: I never said Edouard should be made the scapegoat for the first half, it is the manager who picks the line up and he got it wrong with starting Edouard leading the attack, something he rightly changed at half time.
Griffiths. Griffiths was never going to play the 90. Not Edouard. So I could see why he started Edouard, and I could see why he changed it at half time.

He took off Lustig at half time, not Edouard. Lustig, our vice captain. It kind of indicates to me he didn't (rightly) see Edouard as the primary issue. We got more support up top and won the game having adopted a different formation.

We won and Edouard got game time in a competitive match to learn from, and the manager to make more an assessment of him playing in a slightly different role. That's good management for me.

I'd be a bit happier in that knowledge as opposed to having berthed a 19 year old lad at half time because we were behind, when the mistakes were largely made elsewhere.
We could have started Griffiths, he could have played for 75/80 minutes and going by the evidence of his 2nd half display, we could have been a goal or 2 up and then brought Edouard on.

He took Lustig off because he was having a bit of a nightmare, he didn't bring Jozo on and push Boyata out right at half time because we needed things changed up front, which again is my point about Edouard starting up front himself.

Yes we won the match, not through much contribution from Edouard but largely down to one of our main strikers coming on off the bench and offering much more in attack.

And again, I'm not saying Edouard should have been subbed at half time or that he should be classed as any scapegoat, he made the right choice in taking Lustig off.

What I am saying is that he shouldn't have started Edouard and he shouldn't be started in league games. We play with 1 striker, having Dembele and Griffiths start on the bench for a league game in January with a lot of football still to play with a 19 year old loan player who has hardly done much to merit a start is a bit of a head scratcher for me.



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FFS the number of experts on here who think they know a player when they see one. Some big club should have spotted your talent by now. He's a big pacy unit with a decent touch and is fond of a shot at goal or seven. FFS the boy is 19 and leading the line on his own at a club of our size. He has acres of potential and while 7 million quid is a quite the (considerable) stretch, he's exactly the kind of young player we should be developing. As a few have mentioned, at a 1-2 million quid investment up front and some add-ons he'll be worth a contract.

I suspect we'll go back to PSG with a similar suggestion.
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I think he’d do a job on the left of a three. An option when Sinclair needs a rest.

Seems to like coming in from the wide area.
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£7m? Twist.
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IainG
24 Jan 2018, 11:02 AM
He has promise or PSG would never have signed him but at his age it's no more than that. If we sign him permanently it should be for no more than a couple of million and even that's taking a chance.
PSG signed Cedric Kipre...

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I like the look of him. He's always looking for the ball even when he's not having a great game. He tries to take on men and get shots away. It's not always happening for him at the moment but he's still so young and has mostly played alone up front against packed defences.

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24 Jan 2018, 02:37 PM
IainG
24 Jan 2018, 11:02 AM
He has promise or PSG would never have signed him but at his age it's no more than that. If we sign him permanently it should be for no more than a couple of million and even that's taking a chance.
PSG signed Cedric Kipre...

He was 6'2 and 14 stone when he was born though. Folk will always take a chance on players like that.
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were not going to find out if Eddies up to it by playing him up front on his own , thats not his game , miles better playing just behind the main striker. Could turn out to be a very good player but we cant pay the current asking price , 3m absolute tops , then we'd always get our money back.
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Ste
24 Jan 2018, 01:10 PM
Rodgers thought he was brilliant and it isnt the first time he's thrown words like that about re: Edouard.

I think we'll try and make the move permanent but not at the fees quoted.
Don't believe anything Rodgers says straight after a game. He also said that we played well in the first half against Partick.......... He also said that we had defended well apart from one mistake which led to their goal......

He is not as objective as us at the end of a game as he can't slaughter players ( like Lustig) for playing crap and he can't admit that he got it wrong with not starting Griffiths.

Eduoard deserves a shot as much as Leigh but I would be starting with Leigh right now until the transfer window shuts then I would be starting with Dembele.
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Griffiths is a far better player than this guy. There is no contest. If the club wants to spend a couple of million on this guy to see how he progresses the jobs a gud un. 7/8m..... not a chance.
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