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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
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Topic Started: 5 Aug 2017, 03:56 PM (201,331 Views)
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k3vkr
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14 May 2018, 10:15 AM
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Goss was let off of a 2nd yellow today while it was 3 nil to hibs - a sleekid sub in the 25th minute for Alves and well.......... The rest is history
Scott Allan's tackle was a shocker and the worst decision Dallas made. Straight red everyday of the week. Ref's have been even worse than normal lately
Allan's tackle was atrocious  I have absolutely no idea why Dallas didn't send him off. He was literally 5 yards away and looking directly at it. Not seen it, but, want to now.....
Any links?
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Rosco67
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14 May 2018, 10:36 AM
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Allan's tackle was atrocious  I have absolutely no idea why Dallas didn't send him off. He was literally 5 yards away and looking directly at it.
Not seen it, but, want to now..... Any links? Here
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14 May 2018, 11:12 AM
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Goss was let off of a 2nd yellow today while it was 3 nil to hibs - a sleekid sub in the 25th minute for Alves and well.......... The rest is history
Scott Allan's tackle was a shocker and the worst decision Dallas made. Straight red everyday of the week. Ref's have been even worse than normal lately Agree 100%
He probably thought he was evening it up by not sending him off lol
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Ned Rise
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14 May 2018, 11:13 AM
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Scott Allan, he's one of their own.
Tackle was a shocker, right enough.
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14 May 2018, 11:22 AM
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Scott Allan, he's one of their own.
Tackle was a shocker, right enough. it was similar to Halliday's? on Roberts at CP, which went unpunished (not even a foul) and led to their equaliser
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14 May 2018, 11:27 AM
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Scott Allan, he's one of their own.
Tackle was a shocker, right enough.
it was similar to Halliday's? on Roberts at CP, which went unpunished (not even a foul) and led to their equaliser It wasn't Halliday it was Holt. And it led to a shot past the post.
Apart from that, spot on.
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paulfg42
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14 May 2018, 12:11 PM
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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Not seen it, but, want to now..... Any links? Here Is there any other country where that wouldn't be an automatic red card?
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14 May 2018, 12:20 PM
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Satisfaction came in a chain reaction
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Not seen it, but, want to now..... Any links? Here I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Rosco67
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14 May 2018, 01:14 PM
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We're here to eff shampoo up!
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Here
I don't see anything wrong with that.  Ball was there to be won to be fair
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14 May 2018, 01:31 PM
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Just before the Dawn
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Not seen it, but, want to now..... Any links? Here good firm tackle, play away.
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14 May 2018, 03:12 PM
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Goss was let off of a 2nd yellow today while it was 3 nil to hibs - a sleekid sub in the 25th minute for Alves and well.......... The rest is history
Scott Allan's tackle was a shocker and the worst decision Dallas made. Straight red everyday of the week. Ref's have been even worse than normal lately
Allan's tackle was atrocious  I have absolutely no idea why Dallas didn't send him off. He was literally 5 yards away and looking directly at it. Shinnie's assault on Brown was a far more dangerous and deliberate act. Allan's challenge was wild but nowhere near carrying the malice of Shinnie's.
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14 May 2018, 03:15 PM
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Not seen it, but, want to now..... Any links? Here Foul to Hibs for diving.
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14 May 2018, 03:17 PM
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Strange how the papers haven't published the video of Logan clearly jabbing Lustig in the face.
They usually lift stories from forums and twitter, yet this video is nowhere to be seen on the mainstream news.
He should be getting a lengthy ban for that.
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14 May 2018, 03:21 PM
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- Goodbye Sevillian
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Allan's tackle was atrocious  I have absolutely no idea why Dallas didn't send him off. He was literally 5 yards away and looking directly at it.
Shinnie's assault on Brown was a far more dangerous and deliberate act. Allan's challenge was wild but nowhere near carrying the malice of Shinnie's. Watching the highlights again on Sportscene last night you could clearly see during the replays it was deliberate, he's looking at Brown's foot/leg rather than the ball. Horrible behaviour, how petty and jealous do you need to be to want to injure a fellow pro the week before a cup final that you're not even a part of?
^Also agree with Kingslim, Logan should be up on violent conduct for what he done to Lustig.
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14 May 2018, 03:26 PM
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Anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?
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Allan's tackle was atrocious  I have absolutely no idea why Dallas didn't send him off. He was literally 5 yards away and looking directly at it.
Shinnie's assault on Brown was a far more dangerous and deliberate act. Allan's challenge was wild but nowhere near carrying the malice of Shinnie's. Agreed 100%. Allen could easily have been sent off for the challenge, but he made contact with his trailing leg whereas Shinnie went studs-up into Brown's ankle.
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14 May 2018, 03:34 PM
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A bug bear of mine is the rule that the keeper can only hold the ball for six seconds is never enforced. I can get that a ref is rarely going to do it if it's a couple of seconds over and it's designed so that keepers don't rip the arse.
Today I timed the Aberdeen keeper holding it for 16 seconds.
Ffs get a life, you actually timed that? Enjoy the game.
Aye. Their time wasting was annoying me. That awright with you chief? We time waste as well when we're holding on for a result or even just trying to frustrate a superior team in European competition (although given some of the hammerings we've had in the CL over the last two years we need to get a helluva lot better at it).
Domestically we're the big team with all the resources and advantages that everybody wants to claim a result against by any means necessary. That means we'll regularly be facing packed out defences, time wasting, sticky pitches, overly physical tackles and any other negative tactic that might disrupt our natural game in the hope of grabbing a draw or a win against us rather than stand back and admire our football and take a hammering.
Yes, refs on some occasions need to be better at dealing with time wasting.....but if the opposition are getting away with it then I can't blame them for doing so when it's to their advantage.
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14 May 2018, 03:36 PM
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Anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?
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Aye. Their time wasting was annoying me. That awright with you chief?
We time waste as well when we're holding on for a result or even just trying to frustrate a superior team in European competition (although given some of the hammerings we've had in the CL over the last two years we need to get a helluva lot better at it). Domestically we're the big team with all the resources and advantages that everybody wants to claim a result against by any means necessary. That means we'll regularly be facing packed out defences, time wasting, sticky pitches, overly physical tackles and any other negative tactic that might disrupt our natural game in the hope of grabbing a draw or a win against us rather than stand back and admire our football and take a hammering. Yes, refs on some occasions need to be better at dealing with time wasting.....but if the opposition are getting away with it then I can't blame them for doing so when it's to their advantage. Be fair now. This is the ref thread and the complaint is a relevant one if the keeper is getting away with holding the ball for nearly 3x the allotted time.
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14 May 2018, 05:43 PM
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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I watch a fair bit of English football and have never seen injury time after the 90 less than 3 minutes.
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14 May 2018, 06:03 PM
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One of the rangers wordsmiths believes the referees have it in for them. Oh, and by the way, "Bear in mind, we neither asked for nor started this fight but, trust me, we will finish it. Let’s go".
Planned Incompetence?
Spoiler: click to toggle Written by The Director As the 2017/18 SPFL season reached its finale this weekend, special praise is due to Andrew Dallas. I didn’t believe it possible that any referee could exceed his colleagues’ efforts and make even more ridiculous anti-Rangers refereeing decisions than those which have defiled several games this season. Dallas, however, proved me utterly wrong with his performance in the 5-5 draw at Easter Road. Dallas Junior’s contribution to this season’s final Rangers game was like a microcosm of SPFL referees’ performances in Rangers games throughout the season. His eagerness to book Jason Holt and his refusal to give a clear Rangers penalty were bad enough but to issue a clearly out of control Scott Allan with only a yellow card for a two footed assault on Jordan Rossiter was something else. This was a very genuine attempt by a failed footballer to maim an infinitely more talented fellow professional. Dallas had an unimpaired view from only a few feet away. Even Hibs fans in the crowd behind were filmed on TV coverage wincing at the ferocity of the foul. It was a clear a red card as you will ever see. But Dallas Junior saw it very differently. We can only speculate as to what could have motivated Junior to make such staggeringly inept decisions. Perhaps the coin thrown by an enraged Celtic fan in the title decider at Parkhead in May 1999 made an even more lasting and indelible impression on Junior than it did on his father Hugh’s forehead? Could it be the professional guidance passed from Dallas senior to his son extended no further than this maxim: never give any decision which might incur the wrath of fans with an irrational hatred of Rangers? If so, Dallas Junior has proved to be an exemplary pupil. But what excuses can there be for his colleagues? John Beaton set the benchmark in the second game of the season against Hibs at Ibrox. Beaton heroically refused to dismiss Anthony Stokes despite a physical assault on Tavernier, showed a yellow card to Morelos after he was grabbed round the neck by McGregor and finally showed Jack a red card for being on the receiving end of a headbutt from the already booked Stokes, who of course escaped further action. Numerous further incidents of unpunished attacks on Rangers players occurred in games against Ross County, Partick Thistle and Motherwell, including a disgraceful elbow on Cardoso which quite literally disfigured him. The question has to be asked: what exactly are we witnessing with this clear and undeniable pattern of anti-Rangers refereeing decisions? None of the old cliches apply here: “luck evens itself out”, “these are just honest mistakes”, “refs aren’t corrupt, they’re just incompetent”, etc. The sheer volume of incidents is too great and the regularity is too constant for these to be accidental. So what is behind it? I have a theory. For a time in the mid 80s, I was acquainted with a Scotland international who played for two English Premiership clubs. He once told a story about two Premiership players, Steve Moran and Steve Williams, who were detested by pretty much every other player in the division. Seemingly, the word had been passed around that these two players were to be targeted whenever possible for special treatment; the understanding being that referees and linesmen wold turn a blind eye and allow a few hits before any action would be taken. The guy I knew spoke very openly about this and made it clear that he felt their fate was fully deserved. I’ve been thinking more and more of this story as this season has progressed. Is that what we’re seeing now? Systematic targeting of Rangers players by opposition players in conjunction with referees? How else can the treatment of Ryan Jack be explained? Four red cards, two of which were rescinded, plus one which stood for making a tackle, then singled out in his return match and unable to play for the rest of the season. Not that Jack is alone in being targeted; far from it, as the refereeing list of shame shows very clearly. There is a saying which is often trotted out regularly among the Rangers support: “That’s Timmy behaviour.” This is used when Rangers fans complain about unfair treatment or seemingly biased refereeing decisions; the thinking being that acting like a Celtic fan and complaining about conspiracies is behaviour unsuited to Rangers fans. While I understand the point being made, I would suggest the time has come for Rangers fans to take stock, look at the lengthy rap sheet of anti-Rangers refereeing decisions and ask themselves: how do we stop this? This weekend’s Hibs game has shown very clearly that our enemies are determined to inflict the maximum possible damage on Rangers players. There are several ways we can combat this but the first step has to be the realisation that this phenomenon is very real and very dangerous. In a little over two weeks, Steven Gerrard starts what we all hope will be a historic chapter in Rangers’ proud history. As fans, we must do everything we can to support him. If that means using all the avenues at our disposal to highlight incidents of bias and cheating, so be it. Bear in mind, we neither asked for nor started this fight but, trust me, we will finish it. Let’s go. https://daviesleftpeg.wordpress.com/2018/05/14/planned-incompetence/
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14 May 2018, 06:16 PM
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One of the rangers wordsmiths believes the referees have it in for them. Oh, and by the way, "Bear in mind, we neither asked for nor started this fight but, trust me, we will finish it. Let’s go". Planned Incompetence?Spoiler: click to toggle Written by The Director As the 2017/18 SPFL season reached its finale this weekend, special praise is due to Andrew Dallas. I didn’t believe it possible that any referee could exceed his colleagues’ efforts and make even more ridiculous anti-Rangers refereeing decisions than those which have defiled several games this season. Dallas, however, proved me utterly wrong with his performance in the 5-5 draw at Easter Road. Dallas Junior’s contribution to this season’s final Rangers game was like a microcosm of SPFL referees’ performances in Rangers games throughout the season. His eagerness to book Jason Holt and his refusal to give a clear Rangers penalty were bad enough but to issue a clearly out of control Scott Allan with only a yellow card for a two footed assault on Jordan Rossiter was something else. This was a very genuine attempt by a failed footballer to maim an infinitely more talented fellow professional. Dallas had an unimpaired view from only a few feet away. Even Hibs fans in the crowd behind were filmed on TV coverage wincing at the ferocity of the foul. It was a clear a red card as you will ever see. But Dallas Junior saw it very differently. We can only speculate as to what could have motivated Junior to make such staggeringly inept decisions. Perhaps the coin thrown by an enraged Celtic fan in the title decider at Parkhead in May 1999 made an even more lasting and indelible impression on Junior than it did on his father Hugh’s forehead? Could it be the professional guidance passed from Dallas senior to his son extended no further than this maxim: never give any decision which might incur the wrath of fans with an irrational hatred of Rangers? If so, Dallas Junior has proved to be an exemplary pupil. But what excuses can there be for his colleagues? John Beaton set the benchmark in the second game of the season against Hibs at Ibrox. Beaton heroically refused to dismiss Anthony Stokes despite a physical assault on Tavernier, showed a yellow card to Morelos after he was grabbed round the neck by McGregor and finally showed Jack a red card for being on the receiving end of a headbutt from the already booked Stokes, who of course escaped further action. Numerous further incidents of unpunished attacks on Rangers players occurred in games against Ross County, Partick Thistle and Motherwell, including a disgraceful elbow on Cardoso which quite literally disfigured him. The question has to be asked: what exactly are we witnessing with this clear and undeniable pattern of anti-Rangers refereeing decisions? None of the old cliches apply here: “luck evens itself out”, “these are just honest mistakes”, “refs aren’t corrupt, they’re just incompetent”, etc. The sheer volume of incidents is too great and the regularity is too constant for these to be accidental. So what is behind it? I have a theory. For a time in the mid 80s, I was acquainted with a Scotland international who played for two English Premiership clubs. He once told a story about two Premiership players, Steve Moran and Steve Williams, who were detested by pretty much every other player in the division. Seemingly, the word had been passed around that these two players were to be targeted whenever possible for special treatment; the understanding being that referees and linesmen wold turn a blind eye and allow a few hits before any action would be taken. The guy I knew spoke very openly about this and made it clear that he felt their fate was fully deserved. I’ve been thinking more and more of this story as this season has progressed. Is that what we’re seeing now? Systematic targeting of Rangers players by opposition players in conjunction with referees? How else can the treatment of Ryan Jack be explained? Four red cards, two of which were rescinded, plus one which stood for making a tackle, then singled out in his return match and unable to play for the rest of the season. Not that Jack is alone in being targeted; far from it, as the refereeing list of shame shows very clearly. There is a saying which is often trotted out regularly among the Rangers support: “That’s Timmy behaviour.” This is used when Rangers fans complain about unfair treatment or seemingly biased refereeing decisions; the thinking being that acting like a Celtic fan and complaining about conspiracies is behaviour unsuited to Rangers fans. While I understand the point being made, I would suggest the time has come for Rangers fans to take stock, look at the lengthy rap sheet of anti-Rangers refereeing decisions and ask themselves: how do we stop this? This weekend’s Hibs game has shown very clearly that our enemies are determined to inflict the maximum possible damage on Rangers players. There are several ways we can combat this but the first step has to be the realisation that this phenomenon is very real and very dangerous. In a little over two weeks, Steven Gerrard starts what we all hope will be a historic chapter in Rangers’ proud history. As fans, we must do everything we can to support him. If that means using all the avenues at our disposal to highlight incidents of bias and cheating, so be it. Bear in mind, we neither asked for nor started this fight but, trust me, we will finish it. Let’s go. https://daviesleftpeg.wordpress.com/2018/05/14/planned-incompetence/ The new club motto - Let’s Go 
Let’s go Secvo, Let’s Go
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