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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
Topic Started: 5 Aug 2017, 03:56 PM (201,342 Views)
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6 Apr 2018, 07:02 PM
kellybhoy
6 Apr 2018, 06:54 PM
Just to put things in perspective (as well as giving my age away. lol), Referee Jack Mowat was a self confessed bluenose (thatś what we called them in those days). Guess who was the referee in the 7-1 game? Mr. Bluenose Mowat himself. He even gave us a penalty at the death to make it 7.
Get the carrot exhumed and he can ref the next Huns game then.
Too far :lol:
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6 Apr 2018, 06:54 PM
Just to put things in perspective (as well as giving my age away. lol), Referee Jack Mowat was a self confessed bluenose (thatś what we called them in those days). Guess who was the referee in the 7-1 game? Mr. Bluenose Mowat himself. He even gave us a penalty at the death to make it 7.
Oh aye give the Taigs a penalty when they're 6-1 up, that'll show how even-handed I am :lol:
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kellybhoy
6 Apr 2018, 06:54 PM
Just to put things in perspective (as well as giving my age away. lol), Referee Jack Mowat was a self confessed bluenose (thatś what we called them in those days). Guess who was the referee in the 7-1 game? Mr. Bluenose Mowat himself. He even gave us a penalty at the death to make it 7.
Get the carrot exhumed and he can ref the next Huns game then.
They'll just see our Jack Mowat, and raise us a 1970 SCF* R. H. (Right Hun) Davidson. :boik:

* To this day, still the most scandalous :mitb: performance I have ever witnessed. :angry:

EDITED to add: that stopped a double treble. :nono:
Edited by Otis B Driftwood, 7 Apr 2018, 01:23 AM.
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6 Apr 2018, 06:54 PM
Just to put things in perspective (as well as giving my age away. lol), Referee Jack Mowat was a self confessed bluenose (thatś what we called them in those days). Guess who was the referee in the 7-1 game? Mr. Bluenose Mowat himself. He even gave us a penalty at the death to make it 7.
Get the carrot exhumed and he can ref the next Huns game then.
They'll just see our Jack Mowat, and raise us a 1970 SCF* R. H. (Right Hun) Davidson. :boik:

* To this day, still the most scandalous :mitb: performance I have ever witnessed. :angry:

EDITED to add: that stopped a double treble. :nono:
Worse than John Robertson Proudfoot Gordon (Newport on Tay) at Ibrox in 1978?
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Just stumbled across this in relation to the 1970 SCF:

Jock Stein gave referee Davidson a mouthful at full time and was fined £10 by the SFA. In later years Aberdeen boss Eddie Turnbull was asked if Davidson's performnce was that bad. He replied: 'Put it this way, if I had been in big Jock’s shoes, I’d have had 20 quids’ worth!
Edited by Bryce Curdy, 7 Apr 2018, 07:29 AM.
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They'll just see our Jack Mowat, and raise us a 1970 SCF* R. H. (Right Hun) Davidson. :boik:

* To this day, still the most scandalous :mitb: performance I have ever witnessed. :angry:

EDITED to add: that stopped a double treble. :nono:
Worse than John Robertson Proudfoot Gordon (Newport on Tay) at Ibrox in 1978?
Much, much worse; gave Aberdeen a penalty for feck all and disallowed a Bobby Lennox goal - which would made it -1-1 - for an imaginary foul. Wee Jinky hooked him from behind for that decision. :lol:
Edited by Otis B Driftwood, 7 Apr 2018, 07:54 AM.
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Shinnie booked sixteen times this season, says he can't change the way he plays and the refs are too quick to book "combative midfielders".
The refs may not be the best but surely he's got to take a look at himself, read the rule book and play within the margins?

YELLOW PERIL Aberdeen skipper Graeme Shinnie says referees are too quick to book players as he prepares to sit out Scottish Cup semi-final
The Dons star admits 'combative' midfielders could become a thing of the past if refs continue to flash yellow
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How many Glasgow derbys has Madden actually refereed?
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7 Apr 2018, 08:32 AM
How many Glasgow derbys has Madden actually refereed?
Too many.
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They'll just see our Jack Mowat, and raise us a 1970 SCF* R. H. (Right Hun) Davidson. :boik:

* To this day, still the most scandalous :mitb: performance I have ever witnessed. :angry:

EDITED to add: that stopped a double treble. :nono:
Worse than John Robertson Proudfoot Gordon (Newport on Tay) at Ibrox in 1978?
He might have been a cheating Hun but at least he looked sharp in his Italian suit...

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Worse than John Robertson Proudfoot Gordon (Newport on Tay) at Ibrox in 1978?
He might have been a cheating Hun but at least he looked sharp in his Italian suit...

:carrot:
The Dapper Dob?
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7 Apr 2018, 08:24 AM
Shinnie booked sixteen times this season, says he can't change the way he plays and the refs are too quick to book "combative midfielders".
The refs may not be the best but surely he's got to take a look at himself, read the rule book and play within the margins?

YELLOW PERIL Aberdeen skipper Graeme Shinnie says referees are too quick to book players as he prepares to sit out Scottish Cup semi-final
The Dons star admits 'combative' midfielders could become a thing of the past if refs continue to flash yellow
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It would really be a shame if the 'combative Scottish midfielder' became a thing of the past, as it really helps our clubs and national teams when we play more technical teams.
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I know it's not related to Scottish football, but the 4th official last night telling Phil Neville to stop helping the Welsh player down with cramp and to take the literally single step back into his technical area sums up the sort of jobsworth ringpiece you have to be to be a football official these days.
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7 Apr 2018, 11:17 AM
I know it's not related to Scottish football, but the 4th official last night telling Phil Neville to stop helping the Welsh player down with cramp and to take the literally single step back into his technical area sums up the sort of jobsworth ringpiece you have to be to be a football official these days.
yeah, saw that. The Welsh lass was in screaming agony, he did the human thing which was to immediately look to help and near got sent off for his troubles :nono:
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He might have been a cheating Hun but at least he looked sharp in his Italian suit...

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It was a camel coat and a Seiko watch.
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5 Apr 2018, 12:35 PM
Well known Tim, Steven McLean, is the 4th official, so that’ll balance out Madden’s influence on the game.
Beyond sarcasm?
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According to their sites, he’s also a member of the Ludge
That doesn't necessarily make him a Hun.
Hahahahaha
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Shinnie booked sixteen times this season, says he can't change the way he plays and the refs are too quick to book "combative midfielders".
The refs may not be the best but surely he's got to take a look at himself, read the rule book and play within the margins?

YELLOW PERIL Aberdeen skipper Graeme Shinnie says referees are too quick to book players as he prepares to sit out Scottish Cup semi-final
The Dons star admits 'combative' midfielders could become a thing of the past if refs continue to flash yellow
Spoiler: click to toggle
It would really be a shame if the 'combative Scottish midfielder' became a thing of the past, as it really helps our clubs and national teams when we play more technical teams.
It's something that really annoys me. There is a lot of hot air about why our teams perform so badly in Europe. Something which does not get the attention it should is the poor quality of refereeing in Scotland which effectively encourages a style of agricultural football which is not tolerated on the continent.

It is hard to criticise coaches for using the type of negative tactics which they know officials will allow, given the pressure on them for results. I have no problem with a bit of physicality in the game, but I expect referees to take action / give fouls / book players when the laws are broken. In Scotland they seem to see it as their role to equalise the gap in quality between us and the rest by favouring our opponents and allowing a broad range of often niggly fouls.

It does not excuse some of our below par performances this season, but it has proved effective in nullifying our play a few times. The bigger picture is the effect that it must have on other teams in Europe. You can't expect them to change their style of play. And people like Neil McCann may like to say that our game is not as rough as it used to be, but equally it has not progressed the way it has in other countries where, with more limited resources, they can still produce more technically accomplished teams / players.

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Shinnie booked sixteen times this season, says he can't change the way he plays and the refs are too quick to book "combative midfielders".
The refs may not be the best but surely he's got to take a look at himself, read the rule book and play within the margins?

YELLOW PERIL Aberdeen skipper Graeme Shinnie says referees are too quick to book players as he prepares to sit out Scottish Cup semi-final
The Dons star admits 'combative' midfielders could become a thing of the past if refs continue to flash yellow
Spoiler: click to toggle
It would really be a shame if the 'combative Scottish midfielder' became a thing of the past, as it really helps our clubs and national teams when we play more technical teams.
It's something that really annoys me. There is a lot of hot air about why our teams perform so badly in Europe. Something which does not get the attention it should is the poor quality of refereeing in Scotland which effectively encourages a style of agricultural football which is not tolerated on the continent.

It is hard to criticise coaches for using the type of negative tactics which they know officials will allow, given the pressure on them for results. I have no problem with a bit of physicality in the game, but I expect referees to take action / give fouls / book players when the laws are broken. In Scotland they seem to see it as their role to equalise the gap in quality between us and the rest by favouring our opponents and allowing a broad range of often niggly fouls.

It does not excuse some of our below par performances this season, but it has proved effective in nullifying our play a few times. The bigger picture is the effect that it must have on other teams in Europe. You can't expect them to change their style of play. And people like Neil McCann may like to say that our game is not as rough as it used to be, but equally it has not progressed the way it has in other countries where, with more limited resources, they can still produce more technically accomplished teams / players.

Rant over.
Aye you watch footbsll elsewhere in Europe after watching us and it's like a totally different rule book.
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7 Apr 2018, 08:24 AM
Shinnie booked sixteen times this season, says he can't change the way he plays and the refs are too quick to book "combative midfielders".
The refs may not be the best but surely he's got to take a look at himself, read the rule book and play within the margins?

YELLOW PERIL Aberdeen skipper Graeme Shinnie says referees are too quick to book players as he prepares to sit out Scottish Cup semi-final
The Dons star admits 'combative' midfielders could become a thing of the past if refs continue to flash yellow
Spoiler: click to toggle
It would really be a shame if the 'combative Scottish midfielder' became a thing of the past, as it really helps our clubs and national teams when we play more technical teams.
It's something that really annoys me. There is a lot of hot air about why our teams perform so badly in Europe. Something which does not get the attention it should is the poor quality of refereeing in Scotland which effectively encourages a style of agricultural football which is not tolerated on the continent.

It is hard to criticise coaches for using the type of negative tactics which they know officials will allow, given the pressure on them for results. I have no problem with a bit of physicality in the game, but I expect referees to take action / give fouls / book players when the laws are broken. In Scotland they seem to see it as their role to equalise the gap in quality between us and the rest by favouring our opponents and allowing a broad range of often niggly fouls.

It does not excuse some of our below par performances this season, but it has proved effective in nullifying our play a few times. The bigger picture is the effect that it must have on other teams in Europe. You can't expect them to change their style of play. And people like Neil McCann may like to say that our game is not as rough as it used to be, but equally it has not progressed the way it has in other countries where, with more limited resources, they can still produce more technically accomplished teams / players.

Rant over.
I couldn't agree more. :thumbsup:
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