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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
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Topic Started: 5 Aug 2017, 03:56 PM (201,349 Views)
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26 Mar 2018, 07:33 PM
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There's cross-communication going on here. It wasn't a 4-0 win over Killie under Jansen, it was a 4-2 win over Killie under Dalglish. Celtic Wiki - Celtic v Killie
Who said it was?  You did. Are you high?
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One of the guys I know ran the line in the 6-2 game; that said, he also disallowed four goals by Brattbakk in a 4-0 (Brattbakk, 4) win against Kilmarnock
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26 Mar 2018, 07:40 PM
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There's cross-communication going on here. It wasn't a 4-0 win over Killie under Jansen, it was a 4-2 win over Killie under Dalglish. Celtic Wiki - Celtic v Killie
Who said it was? 
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One of the guys I know ran the line in the 6-2 game; that said, he also disallowed four goals by Brattbakk in a 4-0 (Brattbakk, 4) win against Kilmarnock
Brattback scored four goals in eight different 4-0 wins against Kilmarnock, four of which were postponed and three were abandoned due to fog, failing floodlights and an influx of foxes. Could have been any of them.
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26 Mar 2018, 07:55 PM
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Aye I see to remember that as well. No sure if it was 4 right enough but mind a couple being disallowed. There was a game in Barnes season Johnson got a hat trick and a couple disallowed too.
Against Dundee, I think Johnson had the ball in the back on the net 5 times that night. Rafael debut winnit?
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26 Mar 2018, 08:24 PM
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One of the guys I know ran the line in the 6-2 game; that said, he also disallowed four goals by Brattbakk in a 4-0 (Brattbakk, 4) win against Kilmarnock
Brattback scored four goals in eight different 4-0 wins against Kilmarnock, four of which were postponed and three were abandoned due to fog, failing floodlights and an influx of foxes. Could have been any of them. One of those foxes was actually my dog out for its Halloween.
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Against Dundee, I think Johnson had the ball in the back on the net 5 times that night.
Rafael debut winnit? It was
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26 Mar 2018, 10:26 PM
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There's cross-communication going on here. It wasn't a 4-0 win over Killie under Jansen, it was a 4-2 win over Killie under Dalglish. Celtic Wiki - Celtic v Killie
Who said it was? 
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One of the guys I know ran the line in the 6-2 game; that said, he also disallowed four goals by Brattbakk in a 4-0 (Brattbakk, 4) win against Kilmarnock
Aye, ecause Hrattbakk scored all four goals in a 4-0 win.
Over and out.
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26 Mar 2018, 11:02 PM
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One of the guys I know ran the line in the 6-2 game; that said, he also disallowed four goals by Brattbakk in a 4-0 (Brattbakk, 4) win against Kilmarnock
Aye, ecause Hrattbakk scored all four goals in a 4-0 win. Over and out.
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27 Mar 2018, 01:26 AM
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I had reason to look up the Mandela Effect on Google earlier this week -- I now seem to have experienced it. I would have put money on Harald's four disallowed goals being in the game he scored four. Just shows, I suppose.
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27 Mar 2018, 07:30 AM
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I had reason to look up the Mandela Effect on Google earlier this week -- I now seem to have experienced it.  I would have put money on Harald's four disallowed goals being in the game he scored four. Just shows, I suppose. For many years I had a clear and distinct memory of Laurie Cunningham taking corners at Parkhead for Real Madrid in the 1980 2-0 game. I could see him, resplendent in the famous all white strip, bending them in with the outside of his foot. I found out a couple of years ago that Madrid played in blue that night. I was at the effing game
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It is rhetorical; an example of what constitutes preferential treatment. I know a couple of guys (both Tims) who made it as far as running the line in the PL/SPL; the influence of the Brotherhood in career progression is firmly entrenched in SFAR(?) circles.
I know a guy, good Tim, who ran the line in the SPL although he never made it to grade 1 and wasn’t allowed to do us v Huns. He said that unless you were a Hun or were creeping around Fleming and Dallas you had no chance of getting to the top. I worked with the son of an ex Grade 1 ref. The main family team was one of the "wee" clubs, but Rangers were definitely their other team.
The son was quite open about the refs inclination being not so much pro-Rangers, as more "anyone but Celtic". He also mentioned that part of the training for refs included camps down at Largs where part of the agenda was an experienced refs Vs newbies game, which was basically like playing the boss at golf. Only one winner was allowed.
In the bar later, the newbies would be told what the experienced refs preferred drink was, and if you weren't seen to be getting plenty rounds in for them, you could expect your name to be down the list for promoted games in the forthcoming season.
The whole thing stank of amateurism, and a closed shop. It must be like Royston Vasey with whistles, when they get together.
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Referees complaining of bias and preferential treatment........😂😂😂 Paul Larkins film Anyone but Celtic lays it out quite clearly , if you hav'nt seen it the way referees got the pick of games .....
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28 Mar 2018, 07:21 PM
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Check out the comments from “John Smith”, IMHO these comments come from someone within the fraternity and close to Lanarkshire
Very interesting that this is being aired now
There has been discord within Lanarkshire for quite some time now.
Any functions they ran were well attended be it the annual dance, where there would be upwards of 170 people attending, the annual awards night would also have around 150 plus in attendance
Someone not happy😳
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28 Mar 2018, 09:05 PM
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Check out the comments from “John Smith”, IMHO these comments come from someone within the fraternity and close to Lanarkshire Very interesting that this is being aired now There has been discord within Lanarkshire for quite some time now. Any functions they ran were well attended be it the annual dance, where there would be upwards of 170 people attending, the annual awards night would also have around 150 plus in attendance Someone not happy😳 Comments
I checked it out....that guy nails it.
SFA oozes corruption and nepotism. We point finger at UEFA/FIFA...its right on our doorstep.
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28 Mar 2018, 11:02 PM
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Check out the comments from “John Smith”, IMHO these comments come from someone within the fraternity and close to Lanarkshire Very interesting that this is being aired now There has been discord within Lanarkshire for quite some time now. Any functions they ran were well attended be it the annual dance, where there would be upwards of 170 people attending, the annual awards night would also have around 150 plus in attendance Someone not happy😳 Comments Oooft 
John Smith "A great article into Scottish Refereeing although tip of the iceberg in regards the dealings of the SFA or their Associations.
There is a snobbery within the SFA refereeing department in regards promotions, it isn't always about who is the best referee on the pitch, it's about who has the best profession away from the pitch. Eddie Smith (to name 1 of many) Chief Super of the Police, promoted year after year after year because of his profession. If you are in the Police, Solicitor, Teacher, Doctor or any other high flying profession you are a shoe in for promotion from the Refereeing Department. Sadly if you're a Labourer, taxi driver or work as a checkout assistant, Category 1 referee will not be a dream to be realised. You may get some scraps from the table though as a Specialist Assistant Referee (SAR) that is if some of the high flying professions don't get that as they don't fancy being a Category 1 referee. Sadly it isn't all about, fitness, talent, best man manager etc.
Within the Refereeing department there is a bully boy tactics headed up by John Fleming and Tom Murphy. Fleming is the head hone show and Murphy takes care of the SAR's. Within refereeing ranks both are despised, this is due to the way they treat the refereeing fraternity. The refereeing dept run several training and fitness days throughout the season, typically on a Sunday. These days are the same regurgitated training days, and god forbid a referee can't make a training day for a variety of reasons! As Mr Fleming will be straight onto his keyboard with a snide email to the referee in question reminding them of the importance of these training days! Once you have made it onto let's just say **** list, wave goodbye to any future in refereeing. These emails will be followed up with a talking to from your Association Manager/snide email (the person who runs each individual Association). Referees will be reminded missing these days will impact on promotions and appointments ie threatened into if you don't attend you won't be promoted, you won't get games etc. These emails and conversations tend to be had with guys of a lower grade (younger guys) who are trying to make it to the top of Scottish Refereeing. Your Cat 1 and SAR's have a lot more flexibility in regards attending such days.
The Refereeing Committee and Association Managers are made up of Ex referees, these guys are Fleming and Murphy's puppets on a string. They are handpicked by Fleming and Murphy and basically will apply whatever pressure to the Memberships of Associations that they see fit, as being on there good list has benefits, like a trip to La Manga Winter Training Camp in Spain or being Supervisors at the top games in Scotland! The Associations are made up of Committees picked by the Memberships, these Committees tend to be Senior Referees' as they see it as a way to further their career in refereeing. This is good for the Managers of the Associations as they sit in meetings and can apply pressure in these meetings. The senior guys aren't going to stand up to the Managers as he is the direct link to the refereeing dept.
Fleming tried to rip up the associations about 6 years ago and it was knocked back by the referees of every association. He came back last year with a watered down version of the same thing under the heading grass roots football. He couldnt care less about grass roots football as he has no need to deal with anyone from this low level. Fleming attended a meeting to rip up the association and whilst questioned by grassroots referees, an active referee servicing amateur football was told "I don't care about you guys on senior guys" and processes it's all about grassroots football. He has cancelled the monthly meetings of which there was 10 per season to allow the referees to meet to discuss events that may have happened on the senior level to make sure that everyone knew what to do to correct any mistakes that may have been made in a game. This is now down to 4 meetings which is a total waste of time as the coaching material is dreadful. There used to be 60 70 people at monthly meetings now we are scraping by at around 30 35 people now. To get his vote through again this was done by fear. Every vote previously was done as a paper vote which meant that nobody knew who voted for what. At the last minute they got the Association Manager to do the vote as a show of hands. The question asked was if anyone is against this motion raise your hand. This was against the constitution as no referee with any kind of hope of a future were ever going to raise their hand as they would be waving goodbye to their career. The whole thing is starting to unravel now. Lanarkshire were one of the leading associations in Scotland who led from the front and whom others looked up to. They are now a laughing stock. The last 2 social events have had to be cancelled to lack of interest which has never been heard of before. Fleming doesnt care as he only is interested in the guys on the senior list. This will have major impacts on football out with the senior leagues as there will be a drastic shortage of referees in the not so distant future. Again Fleming and his deputy bullies dont care as they dont have any dealings with this level of football. The supervision of new referees has more than halved in one season as people are disillusioned with the association all of which Fleming was told would happen should he push through his changes. Lanarkshire alone has lost 8 referees in one season who were either on the senior list or on the fringes of it. This is not counting the general fall out that occurs when a class passes the exam out of a class of 30 only maybe 3 or 4 will stick it out further than one season.
In a Nutshell Refereeing in Scotland is on its Knees and will be whilst Fleming and his gang of bullies are running the show. Bullying and intimidation is alive and well in Scottish refereeing. Andrew Dallas and his friends on the FIFA list are bullet proof whilst they are on the FIFA List.
Last Season he made a total mess of a game at Ross County this was not a decision that was wrong like giving or not giving a Penalty this was a RULE breach like never seen before. He awarded a goal after he had blown for offside because he realised that the guy was not offside after all. Unfortunately all of the Defenders stopped when he blew the whistle. Anybody else does this and their career is over Andrew git another SPFL game within 2 weeks. He only ever got FIFA because his father and Fleming were mates when they were on the list as he is one of the worst referees in Scotland.
I've witnessed rigging of voting for awards, disciplinary hearing conducted in the wrong manner. The life blood of refereeing has been ripped out of refereeing, morale with referees is an all time low and I'm fearful that it will only get worse!!"
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Sounds like the words of a man who couldn't make it to training one time
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Sounds like the words of a man who couldn't make it to training one time Pretty damning though. Here's hoping that it is the start of something meaningful for scottish football.
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Check out the comments from “John Smith”, IMHO these comments come from someone within the fraternity and close to Lanarkshire Very interesting that this is being aired now There has been discord within Lanarkshire for quite some time now. Any functions they ran were well attended be it the annual dance, where there would be upwards of 170 people attending, the annual awards night would also have around 150 plus in attendance Someone not happy😳 Comments
Oooft  John Smith "A great article into Scottish Refereeing although tip of the iceberg in regards the dealings of the SFA or their Associations.
There is a snobbery within the SFA refereeing department in regards promotions, it isn't always about who is the best referee on the pitch, it's about who has the best profession away from the pitch. Eddie Smith (to name 1 of many) Chief Super of the Police, promoted year after year after year because of his profession. If you are in the Police, Solicitor, Teacher, Doctor or any other high flying profession you are a shoe in for promotion from the Refereeing Department. Sadly if you're a Labourer, taxi driver or work as a checkout assistant, Category 1 referee will not be a dream to be realised. You may get some scraps from the table though as a Specialist Assistant Referee (SAR) that is if some of the high flying professions don't get that as they don't fancy being a Category 1 referee. Sadly it isn't all about, fitness, talent, best man manager etc.
Within the Refereeing department there is a bully boy tactics headed up by John Fleming and Tom Murphy. Fleming is the head hone show and Murphy takes care of the SAR's. Within refereeing ranks both are despised, this is due to the way they treat the refereeing fraternity. The refereeing dept run several training and fitness days throughout the season, typically on a Sunday. These days are the same regurgitated training days, and god forbid a referee can't make a training day for a variety of reasons! As Mr Fleming will be straight onto his keyboard with a snide email to the referee in question reminding them of the importance of these training days! Once you have made it onto let's just say **** list, wave goodbye to any future in refereeing. These emails will be followed up with a talking to from your Association Manager/snide email (the person who runs each individual Association). Referees will be reminded missing these days will impact on promotions and appointments ie threatened into if you don't attend you won't be promoted, you won't get games etc. These emails and conversations tend to be had with guys of a lower grade (younger guys) who are trying to make it to the top of Scottish Refereeing. Your Cat 1 and SAR's have a lot more flexibility in regards attending such days.
The Refereeing Committee and Association Managers are made up of Ex referees, these guys are Fleming and Murphy's puppets on a string. They are handpicked by Fleming and Murphy and basically will apply whatever pressure to the Memberships of Associations that they see fit, as being on there good list has benefits, like a trip to La Manga Winter Training Camp in Spain or being Supervisors at the top games in Scotland! The Associations are made up of Committees picked by the Memberships, these Committees tend to be Senior Referees' as they see it as a way to further their career in refereeing. This is good for the Managers of the Associations as they sit in meetings and can apply pressure in these meetings. The senior guys aren't going to stand up to the Managers as he is the direct link to the refereeing dept.
Fleming tried to rip up the associations about 6 years ago and it was knocked back by the referees of every association. He came back last year with a watered down version of the same thing under the heading grass roots football. He couldnt care less about grass roots football as he has no need to deal with anyone from this low level. Fleming attended a meeting to rip up the association and whilst questioned by grassroots referees, an active referee servicing amateur football was told "I don't care about you guys on senior guys" and processes it's all about grassroots football. He has cancelled the monthly meetings of which there was 10 per season to allow the referees to meet to discuss events that may have happened on the senior level to make sure that everyone knew what to do to correct any mistakes that may have been made in a game. This is now down to 4 meetings which is a total waste of time as the coaching material is dreadful. There used to be 60 70 people at monthly meetings now we are scraping by at around 30 35 people now. To get his vote through again this was done by fear. Every vote previously was done as a paper vote which meant that nobody knew who voted for what. At the last minute they got the Association Manager to do the vote as a show of hands. The question asked was if anyone is against this motion raise your hand. This was against the constitution as no referee with any kind of hope of a future were ever going to raise their hand as they would be waving goodbye to their career. The whole thing is starting to unravel now. Lanarkshire were one of the leading associations in Scotland who led from the front and whom others looked up to. They are now a laughing stock. The last 2 social events have had to be cancelled to lack of interest which has never been heard of before. Fleming doesnt care as he only is interested in the guys on the senior list. This will have major impacts on football out with the senior leagues as there will be a drastic shortage of referees in the not so distant future. Again Fleming and his deputy bullies dont care as they dont have any dealings with this level of football. The supervision of new referees has more than halved in one season as people are disillusioned with the association all of which Fleming was told would happen should he push through his changes. Lanarkshire alone has lost 8 referees in one season who were either on the senior list or on the fringes of it. This is not counting the general fall out that occurs when a class passes the exam out of a class of 30 only maybe 3 or 4 will stick it out further than one season.
In a Nutshell Refereeing in Scotland is on its Knees and will be whilst Fleming and his gang of bullies are running the show. Bullying and intimidation is alive and well in Scottish refereeing. Andrew Dallas and his friends on the FIFA list are bullet proof whilst they are on the FIFA List.
Last Season he made a total mess of a game at Ross County this was not a decision that was wrong like giving or not giving a Penalty this was a RULE breach like never seen before. He awarded a goal after he had blown for offside because he realised that the guy was not offside after all. Unfortunately all of the Defenders stopped when he blew the whistle. Anybody else does this and their career is over Andrew git another SPFL game within 2 weeks. He only ever got FIFA because his father and Fleming were mates when they were on the list as he is one of the worst referees in Scotland.
I've witnessed rigging of voting for awards, disciplinary hearing conducted in the wrong manner. The life blood of refereeing has been ripped out of refereeing, morale with referees is an all time low and I'm fearful that it will only get worse!!" Wow. Headshot right there.
At a much lower level, I recently qualified as a Ref (I only intend on reffing amateur). And was told that in order to progress through ranks you needs to get 'pally' with the right people, attend training's etc. This was advice given out to a classroom of 60-70 men/women studying to become referees.
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Check out the comments from “John Smith”, IMHO these comments come from someone within the fraternity and close to Lanarkshire Very interesting that this is being aired now There has been discord within Lanarkshire for quite some time now. Any functions they ran were well attended be it the annual dance, where there would be upwards of 170 people attending, the annual awards night would also have around 150 plus in attendance Someone not happy😳 Comments
Oooft  John Smith "A great article into Scottish Refereeing although tip of the iceberg in regards the dealings of the SFA or their Associations.
There is a snobbery within the SFA refereeing department in regards promotions, it isn't always about who is the best referee on the pitch, it's about who has the best profession away from the pitch. Eddie Smith (to name 1 of many) Chief Super of the Police, promoted year after year after year because of his profession. If you are in the Police, Solicitor, Teacher, Doctor or any other high flying profession you are a shoe in for promotion from the Refereeing Department. Sadly if you're a Labourer, taxi driver or work as a checkout assistant, Category 1 referee will not be a dream to be realised. You may get some scraps from the table though as a Specialist Assistant Referee (SAR) that is if some of the high flying professions don't get that as they don't fancy being a Category 1 referee. Sadly it isn't all about, fitness, talent, best man manager etc.
Within the Refereeing department there is a bully boy tactics headed up by John Fleming and Tom Murphy. Fleming is the head hone show and Murphy takes care of the SAR's. Within refereeing ranks both are despised, this is due to the way they treat the refereeing fraternity. The refereeing dept run several training and fitness days throughout the season, typically on a Sunday. These days are the same regurgitated training days, and god forbid a referee can't make a training day for a variety of reasons! As Mr Fleming will be straight onto his keyboard with a snide email to the referee in question reminding them of the importance of these training days! Once you have made it onto let's just say **** list, wave goodbye to any future in refereeing. These emails will be followed up with a talking to from your Association Manager/snide email (the person who runs each individual Association). Referees will be reminded missing these days will impact on promotions and appointments ie threatened into if you don't attend you won't be promoted, you won't get games etc. These emails and conversations tend to be had with guys of a lower grade (younger guys) who are trying to make it to the top of Scottish Refereeing. Your Cat 1 and SAR's have a lot more flexibility in regards attending such days.
The Refereeing Committee and Association Managers are made up of Ex referees, these guys are Fleming and Murphy's puppets on a string. They are handpicked by Fleming and Murphy and basically will apply whatever pressure to the Memberships of Associations that they see fit, as being on there good list has benefits, like a trip to La Manga Winter Training Camp in Spain or being Supervisors at the top games in Scotland! The Associations are made up of Committees picked by the Memberships, these Committees tend to be Senior Referees' as they see it as a way to further their career in refereeing. This is good for the Managers of the Associations as they sit in meetings and can apply pressure in these meetings. The senior guys aren't going to stand up to the Managers as he is the direct link to the refereeing dept.
Fleming tried to rip up the associations about 6 years ago and it was knocked back by the referees of every association. He came back last year with a watered down version of the same thing under the heading grass roots football. He couldnt care less about grass roots football as he has no need to deal with anyone from this low level. Fleming attended a meeting to rip up the association and whilst questioned by grassroots referees, an active referee servicing amateur football was told "I don't care about you guys on senior guys" and processes it's all about grassroots football. He has cancelled the monthly meetings of which there was 10 per season to allow the referees to meet to discuss events that may have happened on the senior level to make sure that everyone knew what to do to correct any mistakes that may have been made in a game. This is now down to 4 meetings which is a total waste of time as the coaching material is dreadful. There used to be 60 70 people at monthly meetings now we are scraping by at around 30 35 people now. To get his vote through again this was done by fear. Every vote previously was done as a paper vote which meant that nobody knew who voted for what. At the last minute they got the Association Manager to do the vote as a show of hands. The question asked was if anyone is against this motion raise your hand. This was against the constitution as no referee with any kind of hope of a future were ever going to raise their hand as they would be waving goodbye to their career. The whole thing is starting to unravel now. Lanarkshire were one of the leading associations in Scotland who led from the front and whom others looked up to. They are now a laughing stock. The last 2 social events have had to be cancelled to lack of interest which has never been heard of before. Fleming doesnt care as he only is interested in the guys on the senior list. This will have major impacts on football out with the senior leagues as there will be a drastic shortage of referees in the not so distant future. Again Fleming and his deputy bullies dont care as they dont have any dealings with this level of football. The supervision of new referees has more than halved in one season as people are disillusioned with the association all of which Fleming was told would happen should he push through his changes. Lanarkshire alone has lost 8 referees in one season who were either on the senior list or on the fringes of it. This is not counting the general fall out that occurs when a class passes the exam out of a class of 30 only maybe 3 or 4 will stick it out further than one season.
In a Nutshell Refereeing in Scotland is on its Knees and will be whilst Fleming and his gang of bullies are running the show. Bullying and intimidation is alive and well in Scottish refereeing. Andrew Dallas and his friends on the FIFA list are bullet proof whilst they are on the FIFA List.
Last Season he made a total mess of a game at Ross County this was not a decision that was wrong like giving or not giving a Penalty this was a RULE breach like never seen before. He awarded a goal after he had blown for offside because he realised that the guy was not offside after all. Unfortunately all of the Defenders stopped when he blew the whistle. Anybody else does this and their career is over Andrew git another SPFL game within 2 weeks. He only ever got FIFA because his father and Fleming were mates when they were on the list as he is one of the worst referees in Scotland.
I've witnessed rigging of voting for awards, disciplinary hearing conducted in the wrong manner. The life blood of refereeing has been ripped out of refereeing, morale with referees is an all time low and I'm fearful that it will only get worse!!" Eff the article, that's the story there.....pity the SMSM have no journalists left. If a story like that surfaced in England, the Grauniad or Independent would find someone in the lower levels willing to be miked up and spend 6 months building a story. Up here, it'd be dismissed as sour grapes by the blazers......
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29 Mar 2018, 02:44 PM
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- Luigi
- 29 Mar 2018, 01:51 PM
- stevie21
- 29 Mar 2018, 01:17 PM
Sounds like the words of a man who couldn't make it to training one time
Pretty damning though. Here's hoping that it is the start of something meaningful for scottish football. Aye, I agree. He just sounded really really hacked off at snidey emails for missing training. I found that aspect quite comical
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