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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
Topic Started: 5 Aug 2017, 03:56 PM (201,352 Views)
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Also, regards Thomson and Motherwell.

I am sure I read a thing about Fergie and his time at Man U. Where a part of what he looked at was who the upcoming referee was for each game and the types of tackles that they did and didnt like, the types of fouls they were likely to give and not give... does the ref look for advantage to be played or blow for every foul. Does the ref over protect goalies, or does he let the goalies get tackled a little more etc. And this would change some small details of the game plan... maybe they would overload a goalie at corners knowing that a particular ref is inclined to let the play go.

Just speculating here, but motherwell play a very distinct physical style of football - and perhaps Thomson as a referee and his general characteristics / style of refereeing dont lend well to motherwells over physical play. At that level, Id suggest that knowing the ref and what types of fouls he is likely to give would factor in. Some refs might be more lenient on the physical side of the game.
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Dempele
20 Mar 2018, 01:02 PM
Should be due a ref strike soon. 😂 Lennon, Wright and now Robinson all had wuite significant pops at them in the last month or so.
And all from Norn Iron as well :suspect: :suspect:
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21 Mar 2018, 11:53 AM
Dempele
20 Mar 2018, 01:02 PM
Should be due a ref strike soon. 😂 Lennon, Wright and now Robinson all had wuite significant pops at them in the last month or so.
And all from Norn Iron as well :suspect: :suspect:
But only one Good Guy. :thumbsup:

Snarling Ginger Fenian from the North causes the Scottish Referees to strike.
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21 Mar 2018, 11:15 AM
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21 Mar 2018, 11:02 AM
Can anyone explain why, at one point on Sunday, Thomson wouldn't allow us to take a quick FK in our own box to get the ball moving again. Repeatedly he blew for us to move the ball back 5 yards or so.

I understand there's a need to stick to the letter of the law to a degree, but the placement of the ball there had little bearing on the game in terms of a goal being scored or the like. We see this every week, referees choosing specific moments to apply their authority and then literally seconds later ignoring the exact same offence - a throw-in or FK taken 10 yards further up the pitch.

The inconsistency is effing infuriating.
Pure guesswork, but from memory I remember us taking a FK from inside our box and the player it was passed to was still in the box too - which isnt allowed. Similar to a by kick, if a free kick is within your own area the ball must be recieved outside the area. So I thought at the time that, that was the reason the FK was asked to be taken again - and not that it was from the wrong position.
Hadnt a clue that rule applied to fks in your own box, thought it was just for goal kicks. Take it it's an older rule introduced to prevent the defender kicking the ball straight to his own keepers hands?
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quinn1888
21 Mar 2018, 01:34 PM
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21 Mar 2018, 11:15 AM
Luca
21 Mar 2018, 11:02 AM
Can anyone explain why, at one point on Sunday, Thomson wouldn't allow us to take a quick FK in our own box to get the ball moving again. Repeatedly he blew for us to move the ball back 5 yards or so.

I understand there's a need to stick to the letter of the law to a degree, but the placement of the ball there had little bearing on the game in terms of a goal being scored or the like. We see this every week, referees choosing specific moments to apply their authority and then literally seconds later ignoring the exact same offence - a throw-in or FK taken 10 yards further up the pitch.

The inconsistency is effing infuriating.
Pure guesswork, but from memory I remember us taking a FK from inside our box and the player it was passed to was still in the box too - which isnt allowed. Similar to a by kick, if a free kick is within your own area the ball must be recieved outside the area. So I thought at the time that, that was the reason the FK was asked to be taken again - and not that it was from the wrong position.
Hadnt a clue that rule applied to fks in your own box, thought it was just for goal kicks. Take it it's an older rule introduced to prevent the defender kicking the ball straight to his own keepers hands?
No idea as to the origin or reason mate. Just know FK's in your own penalty area, the ball also has to leave the area before a player can touch it.
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21 Mar 2018, 02:07 PM
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21 Mar 2018, 01:34 PM
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21 Mar 2018, 11:15 AM

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Hadnt a clue that rule applied to fks in your own box, thought it was just for goal kicks. Take it it's an older rule introduced to prevent the defender kicking the ball straight to his own keepers hands?
No idea as to the origin or reason mate. Just know FK's in your own penalty area, the ball also has to leave the area before a player can touch it.
Can an opposition player touch / intercept it while it is still in the box?
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Luca
21 Mar 2018, 04:07 PM
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21 Mar 2018, 02:07 PM
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21 Mar 2018, 01:34 PM

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No idea as to the origin or reason mate. Just know FK's in your own penalty area, the ball also has to leave the area before a player can touch it.
Can an opposition player touch / intercept it while it is still in the box?
no
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This is correct but when you think about it, it doesn't really make sense. The reason the ball needs to leave the box at goal kicks is because the ball is out of play and not in play until it leaves the box. At a free kick the ball was not out of play so don't see why it should nee.d to leave the box to be in play. Probably not a very commonly known rule.

Edit....meant to quote previous post.
Edited by Bigbhoyo, 21 Mar 2018, 04:24 PM.
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20 Mar 2018, 02:39 PM
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20 Mar 2018, 11:32 AM

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He slid to stop the ball going out, touched it with both hands and played on :lol:
Duberry did all of the above but he actually looked up at Richmond with a look of resignation as if to say "Oh ffs what the feck have I done" ???There was actually a pause whilst he realised he was being let away with it.

#fair and impartial neutrality. :lol:
I was Brines
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20 Mar 2018, 02:39 PM
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Duberry did all of the above but he actually looked up at Richmond with a look of resignation as if to say "Oh ffs what the feck have I done" ???There was actually a pause whilst he realised he was being let away with it.

#fair and impartial neutrality. :lol:
I was Brines
Somebody else said it was Richmond but yes it was PC Brines. :thumbsup:

They all merge into one for me when it comes to doing Celtic out of decisions. :( #Paranoid Timmy
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21 Mar 2018, 10:03 PM
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I was Brines
Somebody else said it was Richmond but yes it was PC Brines. :thumbsup:

They all merge into one for me when it comes to doing Celtic out of decisions. :( #Paranoid Timmy
Always remember the photo of Brines as the 4th official sharing a packet of swedgers with the fat gardener.
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I was Brines
Somebody else said it was Richmond but yes it was PC Brines. :thumbsup:

They all merge into one for me when it comes to doing Celtic out of decisions. :( #Paranoid Timmy
Thats pretty much why I got mixed up as well. :thumbsup:
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Kipré's won his appeal I see.
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san meegs
22 Mar 2018, 02:21 PM
Kipré's won his appeal I see.
Not surprised by that. It was a farcical decision.

Edit: and probably cost us 2 points!

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Edited by IainG, 22 Mar 2018, 02:35 PM.
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san meegs
22 Mar 2018, 02:21 PM
Kipré's won his appeal I see.
Good , he's available against Sevco next game on 31st - let's see if he can catch El Buffalo ! :ph43r: :ph43r:
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22 Mar 2018, 02:33 PM
san meegs
22 Mar 2018, 02:21 PM
Kipré's won his appeal I see.
Not surprised by that. It was a farcical decision.

Edit: and probably cost us 2 points!

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Agreed. It was never a red card.
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allthewine
22 Mar 2018, 03:12 PM
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22 Mar 2018, 02:33 PM
san meegs
22 Mar 2018, 02:21 PM
Kipré's won his appeal I see.
Not surprised by that. It was a farcical decision.

Edit: and probably cost us 2 points!

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Agreed. It was never a red card.
Andy Walker said it was a certain red AND Brown should have been sent to jail for a year and a day!!!
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Kicking out at someone off the ball is a definite red card, no matter how puny it might look. Ridiculous that it's been overturned. We'll continue to be a league full of hammer throwers with these farcical appeal decisions.
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Add kicking out to throwing a punch as things that are not a Red in Scottish fitba.
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