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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
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Topic Started: 5 Aug 2017, 03:56 PM (201,358 Views)
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13 Mar 2018, 01:31 PM
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See when they can influence the outcome of a game to go in favour of the opppsing team, you can use that argument. Until then it’s irrelevant. I dare say there are some people in our support who are also opposed to Independence.
There will be lots in our support who don’t support independence - some will be old and read the Scottish Daily Mail and believe what the BBC says Lots of them might even have voted to leave Europe - some will be sexist pigs and some will homophobic and racist Some will vote some won’t care But just cause the guy is a Tory and unionist MP doesn’t mean he can’t be a linesman - or that his values are out of step with every single Celtic fan and if they are, he can’t work at our games? Are we only asking for left wing vaguely catholic officials or atheist who are not political or atheists for independence only? That’s nuts Good post.
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13 Mar 2018, 02:26 PM
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See when they can influence the outcome of a game to go in favour of the opppsing team, you can use that argument. Until then it’s irrelevant. I dare say there are some people in our support who are also opposed to Independence.
There will be lots in our support who don’t support independence - some will be old and read the Scottish Daily Mail and believe what the BBC says Lots of them might even have voted to leave Europe - some will be sexist pigs and some will homophobic and racist Some will vote some won’t care But just cause the guy is a Tory and unionist MP doesn’t mean he can’t be a linesman - or that his values are out of step with every single Celtic fan and if they are, he can’t work at our games? Are we only asking for left wing vaguely catholic officials or atheist who are not political or atheists for independence only? That’s nuts Agreed. I suspect most of us would disagree with a lot of Tory policies but to suggest someone shouldn’t be allowed to officiate at our games because he’s part of the largest political party in the country seems rather dramatic. He’s a Conservative MP, not the leader of Britain First.
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13 Mar 2018, 02:26 PM
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See when they can influence the outcome of a game to go in favour of the opppsing team, you can use that argument. Until then it’s irrelevant. I dare say there are some people in our support who are also opposed to Independence.
There will be lots in our support who don’t support independence - some will be old and read the Scottish Daily Mail and believe what the BBC says Lots of them might even have voted to leave Europe - some will be sexist pigs and some will homophobic and racist Some will vote some won’t care But just cause the guy is a Tory and unionist MP doesn’t mean he can’t be a linesman - or that his values are out of step with every single Celtic fan and if they are, he can’t work at our games? Are we only asking for left wing vaguely catholic officials or atheist who are not political or atheists for independence only? That’s nuts No, not at all. I can only speak for myself, but all I’m seeking is neutrality and fairness.
I think that on the basis of his performances and his political values, we are unlikely to receive this balance.
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IainG
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13 Mar 2018, 02:32 PM
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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See when they can influence the outcome of a game to go in favour of the opppsing team, you can use that argument. Until then it’s irrelevant. I dare say there are some people in our support who are also opposed to Independence.
There will be lots in our support who don’t support independence - some will be old and read the Scottish Daily Mail and believe what the BBC says Lots of them might even have voted to leave Europe - some will be sexist pigs and some will homophobic and racist Some will vote some won’t care But just cause the guy is a Tory and unionist MP doesn’t mean he can’t be a linesman - or that his values are out of step with every single Celtic fan and if they are, he can’t work at our games? Are we only asking for left wing vaguely catholic officials or atheist who are not political or atheists for independence only? That’s nuts Of course it is. All we want anyway is parity of esteem. (Where have I heard that expression before?)
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13 Mar 2018, 02:45 PM
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Our first goal was timed at 10m 51s
The game resumed at 14m 21s
2 minutes added time at the end of the first half
The spirit of Bobby Tait?
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13 Mar 2018, 03:09 PM
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I'm not sure that intention matters. Recklessness can still get you a red card I suspect. Those connected with Celtic certainly didn't think it was accidental. BR was still unhappy about it 6 months after it happened apparently. Rodgers on StockleyStockley may well have claimed that was accidental but most pundits that I saw and read felt otherwise. And Bowman's was a red card in any other country. As I said Stevie, if you're going to give Jozo a red for what he did on Saturday, OK. But apply it consistently if you take the "Letter of Law" stance.
Your examples don't prove inconsistency. The ref in the Stockley incident could've believed it was accidental and not dangerous play, while with Jozo they probably thought that he was being snide and trying to plant one on Morelos. Bowman's on the hun was a belter right enough, I'll give you that one  Stockley’s was more of a sending off than Jozo’s. probably agree to disagree on this one.
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13 Mar 2018, 03:21 PM
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The John two footed lunge was a borderline red and a tackle that is rightly being stamped out. Not even a yellow
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13 Mar 2018, 03:28 PM
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The two footer from Declan John is exactly the same as Anthony Knockaert's (Brighton) for which he was shown a red over the weekend. The only difference between the two challenges was the fact one of them plays for Sevco.
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13 Mar 2018, 04:12 PM
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The John two footed lunge was a borderline red and a tackle that is rightly being stamped out. Not even a yellow  Not even a foul.
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13 Mar 2018, 04:14 PM
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Our first goal was timed at 10m 51s
The game resumed at 14m 21s
2 minutes added time at the end of the first half
The spirit of Bobby Tait? Probably just as well they probably thought we would have scored again.
Edited by gary1888, 13 Mar 2018, 04:15 PM.
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13 Mar 2018, 04:19 PM
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There will be lots in our support who don’t support independence - some will be old and read the Scottish Daily Mail and believe what the BBC says Lots of them might even have voted to leave Europe - some will be sexist pigs and some will homophobic and racist Some will vote some won’t care But just cause the guy is a Tory and unionist MP doesn’t mean he can’t be a linesman - or that his values are out of step with every single Celtic fan and if they are, he can’t work at our games? Are we only asking for left wing vaguely catholic officials or atheist who are not political or atheists for independence only? That’s nuts
Agreed. I suspect most of us would disagree with a lot of Tory policies but to suggest someone shouldn’t be allowed to officiate at our games because he’s part of the largest political party in the country seems rather dramatic. He’s a Conservative MP, not the leader of Britain First. I don't have a problem with any of this.
I do, though, have a problem with Ross after his Izaguirre brainfart in the 2-1 New Year game at Ibrox last season. Rangers player plays a heavy pass out towards the touchline which is going out for our throw. Izaguirre just about keeps the ball in play (that was going out for our throw) and puts a pass away to Sinclair down the left to launch a Celtic attack. Flag up and...throw in to Rangers.
Anyone who could make a decision like lacks a basic understanding of the game, or is clearly partial in one team's favour. Either way, he has no place in a game of that magnitude.
The fact he is a linesman on the UEFA list is as political as Son of Dallas being a so called top referee. It is as a result of something other than ability. If it was, he would be nowhere near these games.
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13 Mar 2018, 04:21 PM
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I do, though, have a problem with Ross after his Izaguirre brainfart in the 2-1 New Year game at Ibrox last season. Rangers player plays a heavy pass out towards the touchline which is going out for our throw. Izaguirre just about keeps the ball in play (that was going out for our throw) and puts a pass away to Sinclair down the left to launch a Celtic attack. Flag up and...throw in to Rangers.
I had forgotten about that Up there with the wildest decisions I've witnessed. An explanation on that would have been interesting.
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I do, though, have a problem with Ross after his Izaguirre brainfart in the 2-1 New Year game at Ibrox last season. Rangers player plays a heavy pass out towards the touchline which is going out for our throw. Izaguirre just about keeps the ball in play (that was going out for our throw) and puts a pass away to Sinclair down the left to launch a Celtic attack. Flag up and...throw in to Rangers.
I had forgotten about that  Up there with the wildest decisions I've witnessed. An explanation on that would have been interesting. It was probably right by the letter of the law though, or some pish like that.
Anyway, eff all to do with him being a Tory, everything to do with him being a rubbish linesman.
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13 Mar 2018, 04:42 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Stockley on TierneyRodgers on StockleyStockley may well have claimed that was accidental but most pundits that I saw and read felt otherwise. And Bowman's was a red card in any other country. As I said Stevie, if you're going to give Jozo a red for what he did on Saturday, OK. But apply it consistently if you take the "Letter of Law" stance.
Your examples don't prove inconsistency. The ref in the Stockley incident could've believed it was accidental and not dangerous play, while with Jozo they probably thought that he was being snide and trying to plant one on Morelos. Bowman's on the hun was a belter right enough, I'll give you that one 
Stockley’s was more of a sending off than Jozo’s. probably agree to disagree on this one. Christ, Stockley's was an assault, I'd want the polis to charge onto the pitch and arrest the bastard. The ref, however, would say it was accidental and therefore he is applying the letter of the law on that one. Same with Jozo... elbow raised in an unnatural position next to Morelos' coupon. The ref could easily argue it's dangerous, reckless or whatever word you want to associate with that one. By the letter of the law, a red, and therefore providing consistency with the KT one.
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13 Mar 2018, 04:57 PM
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I do, though, have a problem with Ross after his Izaguirre brainfart in the 2-1 New Year game at Ibrox last season. Rangers player plays a heavy pass out towards the touchline which is going out for our throw. Izaguirre just about keeps the ball in play (that was going out for our throw) and puts a pass away to Sinclair down the left to launch a Celtic attack. Flag up and...throw in to Rangers.
I had forgotten about that  Up there with the wildest decisions I've witnessed. An explanation on that would have been interesting. I just about had an anuerysm at that decision. The only explanation possible is that he's a cheating carrot.
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13 Mar 2018, 05:03 PM
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I do, though, have a problem with Ross after his Izaguirre brainfart in the 2-1 New Year game at Ibrox last season. Rangers player plays a heavy pass out towards the touchline which is going out for our throw. Izaguirre just about keeps the ball in play (that was going out for our throw) and puts a pass away to Sinclair down the left to launch a Celtic attack. Flag up and...throw in to Rangers.
I had forgotten about that  Up there with the wildest decisions I've witnessed. An explanation on that would have been interesting.
I just about had an anuerysm at that decision. The only explanation possible is that he's a cheating carrot. Sherlock Holmes is quoted as say when you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth.
Sometimes it just turns out your default reaction is right, though.
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13 Mar 2018, 05:13 PM
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The John two footed lunge was a borderline red and a tackle that is rightly being stamped out. Not even a yellow  It wasn't even a free-kick, never mind no yellow.
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13 Mar 2018, 05:44 PM
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I do, though, have a problem with Ross after his Izaguirre brainfart in the 2-1 New Year game at Ibrox last season. Rangers player plays a heavy pass out towards the touchline which is going out for our throw. Izaguirre just about keeps the ball in play (that was going out for our throw) and puts a pass away to Sinclair down the left to launch a Celtic attack. Flag up and...throw in to Rangers.
I had forgotten about that  Up there with the wildest decisions I've witnessed. An explanation on that would have been interesting.
I just about had an anuerysm at that decision. The only explanation possible is that he's a cheating carrot. It took me a good 30 seconds to appreciate what actually happened. It was like the Thistle/Dundee Utd goal.
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13 Mar 2018, 07:08 PM
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Funniest thing about Collum is how he acts hard when interacting with players and telling them to beat it. He's a weasel.
Used to train at the same gym as him. He's a wee effing weirdo who hardly spoke to or acknowledged any carrot including the gym staff. He trains on the track at Dalziel Rugby Club, weather permitting. I've seen him practice running backwards, the meerkat eff
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Funniest thing about Collum is how he acts hard when interacting with players and telling them to beat it. He's a weasel.
Used to train at the same gym as him. He's a wee effing weirdo who hardly spoke to or acknowledged any carrot including the gym staff.
He trains on the track at Dalziel Rugby Club, weather permitting. I've seen him practice running backwards, the meerkat eff Aye but he can see everything that’s going on behind him.
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