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Ref Watch 2017/18; A fraternity of dunces
Topic Started: 5 Aug 2017, 03:56 PM (201,362 Views)
thegreenwalrus
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Get it right up you and your Tory linesman Gollum.
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12 Mar 2018, 11:21 AM
Jim Duffy, Chick Young, Richard Gordon, Steven Thomson all lined up pretty quickly to state what a good game Collum had. The narrative is already set in stone.
The ref only has a poor game when it's advantage Celtic. Clear bookable offences ignored. How is that good refereeing?
Anyway. Up them :)
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Now I'm not excusing Boyata for the first goal BUT Rangers won the ball after fouling Forrest with Bates clearly holding his shirt. It happens right in front of Collum but he gave nothing.

If that had happened in Europe that would have been an immediate foul but in Scotland we interpret the rules differently. Simunovic could have had a penalty for a blatant shirt pull but nothing given. I see the pundits tare saying that his sending off was letter of the law. Well maybe I would have more time for Scottish officials if they applied the letter of the law at all times and not just when it suits them - see Declan John tackle mid way through the first half.
Edited by Corky Buczek, 12 Mar 2018, 12:33 PM.
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Corky Buczek
12 Mar 2018, 12:11 PM
Now I'm not excusing Boyata for the first goal BUT Rangers won the ball after fouling Forrest with Bates clearly holding his shirt. It happens right in front of Collum but he gave nothing.
None of those 50/50s went our way yesterday - Ntcham getting the shirt ripped off his back by Tavernier for Rangers to get the free kick was as obvious as you get

Edit - I say 50/50s - they were actually 100% fouls
Edited by green_equals_silver, 12 Mar 2018, 12:22 PM.
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Corky Buczek
12 Mar 2018, 12:11 PM
Now I'm not excusing Boyata for the first goal BUT Rangers won the ball after fouling Forrest with Bates clearly holding his shirt. It happens right in front of Collum but he gave nothing.

If that had happened in Europe that would have been an immediate foul but in Scotland we interpret the rules differently. Simunovic could have had a penalty for a blatant shirt pull but nothing given. I see the pundits tare saying that his sending off was letter of the law. Well maybe I would have more time for Scottish officials if they applied the letter of the law at all times and not just when it suits them.
I was screaming at the TV during the game and last nights highlights exactly same...Bates & Forrest incident. Twice he had a go at his shirt right in front of Collum...

IMO got the sending off correct and pretty much nothing else.

He was hopeless yesterday and 2nd half performance of chasing Dembele and Ntcham everywhere over the pitcy was shocking.

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I've watched the game twice and trying to be as even as possible I can count four instances of Celtic players being clearly fouled including a prolonged shirt pull in their box with no free given coupled with six fouls against Celtic players that should have been given in their favor.

That is ten mistakes made by Collum not withstanding all the 50/50 decisions you could argue the toss with.

That to me seems like too many mistakes made in such an important game.

What I can't understand though is that just about every media outlet both print & visual (including comments by Crocker on Sky during the game) say Collum had a good game?

So is it us or is everybody else wrong? Are we paranoid or did these mistakes actually happen?

I see what I see in front of me on the screen so it must have happened, right, but according to the non Celtic world the guy is a competent ref, hard to fathom really.
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Immediately after the Declan John two footed lunge at Tommy Rogic, KT gets scythed and has a wee snipe at Gollum for allowing the agricultural crap to carry on.

Collum took no time in telling him that he was refereeing the game. No attempt made to pull up John for what would be a straight red in any other league, but tell him to tighten up on poor challenges and he’s down on you like a ton of bricks.

Madden is actually fairer than this little rat.
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12 Mar 2018, 12:00 PM
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12 Mar 2018, 11:49 AM
Another one to ponder.

Brown is clearly fouled when he plays it forward to Dembele and Collum only signals advantage when Dembele is in the box lobbing it.

What the eff is that about?
I was surprised he didn't pull play back and give us a free kick
Sure as eff he would have brought it back if he didn't think it was an aimless pump up the park :lol:
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The time to speak out against these horrible, dishonest cretins would be when we've won. Less it would just be looked at as being sour grapes etc. Yesterday and up at Aberdeen were shocking. Biased, and the essentially manage the game differently for both teams.

They will do everything They Can to stop double treble, and if we want ten just being a bit better than our challengers won't be enough.
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Wish we could have foreign refs.
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Willie and his chums would have been down the lodge gutted about not stopping the play at our second for the foul on Brown.

I thought they were shocking. First half everytime we got the ball it was push, pull, kick. Foul after foul and no bookings.
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Think yesterday was the first time I noticed BR being visibly irked by a refereeing display on the touchline.
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12 Mar 2018, 12:50 PM
Willie and his chums would have been down the lodge gutted about not stopping the play at our second for the foul on Brown.

I thought they were shocking. First half everytime we got the ball it was push, pull, kick. Foul after foul and no bookings.
Ntcham, Eddie and dembele were given fouls against them just for being stronger than their opponent. Couple of times in good areas for us too. Collum knew what he was doin, and you won't see them in any highlights package.
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12 Mar 2018, 11:49 AM
Another one to ponder.

Brown is clearly fouled when he plays it forward to Dembele and Collum only signals advantage when Dembele is in the box lobbing it.

What the eff is that about?
He went back and booked the Hun.

The Tory lino carrot though-a fan with a flag and then some

Have never seen a more animated display in my puff.
The wee carrot probably had to change his kaks at full time he jizzed so much.

As others have said he lost it quite simply-a wave and disucss with ref, thats his job.

He wasnt so quick to help the ref out when John nearly snapped T Rogics shins-Rogic saw it coming and saved himself a leg break

Shameful officiating

Edited by pads99, 12 Mar 2018, 01:02 PM.
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12 Mar 2018, 12:21 PM
Corky Buczek
12 Mar 2018, 12:11 PM
Now I'm not excusing Boyata for the first goal BUT Rangers won the ball after fouling Forrest with Bates clearly holding his shirt. It happens right in front of Collum but he gave nothing.
None of those 50/50s went our way yesterday - Ntcham getting the shirt ripped off his back by Tavernier for Rangers to get the free kick was as obvious as you get

Edit - I say 50/50s - they were actually 100% fouls
This is the thing, now that they are getting closer - 9 points not 14 points… - the ref's blindness will become all the more apparent again.

When we have been gubbing everyone and humping them by 5 there is no point in them making their honest mistakes.

As soon as we are faltering and they had a belief that they had a chance to get back into the 'race' then suddenly every 50-50 is given to them, every contact is a foul and our players get no protection.
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12 Mar 2018, 01:43 AM
Operation Stop The Double Treble will be in full flow now that Operation We Have A Title Race has foundered. :nono:

I'm still in stupefaction at Moussa's booking for winning a header. :rubeyes: I've seen refs have a bad game many times but there was a clear agenda at work yesterday.
We have to be at 100% for the semi. They'll throw everything at that one to try and stop the double treble.
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12 Mar 2018, 01:00 PM
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12 Mar 2018, 11:49 AM
Another one to ponder.

Brown is clearly fouled when he plays it forward to Dembele and Collum only signals advantage when Dembele is in the box lobbing it.

What the eff is that about?
He went back and booked the Hun.

The Tory lino carrot though-a fan with a flag and then some

Have never seen a more animated display in my puff.
The wee carrot probably had to change his kaks at full time he jizzed so much.

As others have said he lost it quite simply-a wave and disucss with ref, thats his job.

He wasnt so quick to help the ref out when John nearly snapped T Rogics shins-Rogic saw it coming and saved himself a leg break

Shameful officiating

Utterly shameful.As blatant as i can ever remember.
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Watching the full match again on Sky.

The sending off. Then trying to change the direction of play at every opportunity.

Dembele booked for winning a header. Bain booked for time wasting.

Ntcham booked for a sevcoid tying to take a quick free kick and kicking it off him. Two minutes later Alves loses the plot and doesn't get booked for swiping Edouard.

No doubt in my mind they were full on cheating yesterday.
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12 Mar 2018, 12:24 PM
Corky Buczek
12 Mar 2018, 12:11 PM
Now I'm not excusing Boyata for the first goal BUT Rangers won the ball after fouling Forrest with Bates clearly holding his shirt. It happens right in front of Collum but he gave nothing.

If that had happened in Europe that would have been an immediate foul but in Scotland we interpret the rules differently. Simunovic could have had a penalty for a blatant shirt pull but nothing given. I see the pundits tare saying that his sending off was letter of the law. Well maybe I would have more time for Scottish officials if they applied the letter of the law at all times and not just when it suits them.
I was screaming at the TV during the game and last nights highlights exactly same...Bates & Forrest incident. Twice he had a go at his shirt right in front of Collum...

IMO got the sending off correct and pretty much nothing else.

He was hopeless yesterday and 2nd half performance of chasing Dembele and Ntcham everywhere over the pitcy was shocking.

Watched the Sky highlights earlier today, didn't catch it at the time but Bates fouls Forrest 2 or 3 times just before Boyata's mistake to allow Windass in.
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12 Mar 2018, 01:29 PM
Watching the full match again on Sky.

The sending off. Then trying to change the direction of play at every opportunity.

Dembele booked for winning a header. Bain booked for time wasting.

Ntcham booked for a sevcoid tying to take a quick free kick and kicking it off him. Two minutes later Alves loses the plot and doesn't get booked for swiping Edouard.

No doubt in my mind they were full on cheating yesterday.
Souness stated last week a Hun win would be "good for Scottish Football"

Collums reffed that game for game for "the good of Scottish Football"

Everyone wanted a Hun win yesterday except us
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